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The result was delete. Owen× ☎ 14:05, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Jeffrey Nyquist
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The article fails Wikipedia:Notability (people). The subject is known only for a one thing: writing a single conspiracy theory book. He has zero credentials and cannot be considered a notable academic and his journalistic career consists of writing a column for world net daily, therefore he is not a notable journalist either. As to the book, it seems to fail all 5 points of Wikipedia:Notability (books). Article has been notability-tagged since 2007 and there is large number of concerns voiced on the talk page. Most of the sources used in this article are unreliable: Financialsense.com (a non-notable company website), antiwar.com and his own personal, self-published website. Nanobear (talk) 11:46, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete: We are not in the habit of acting as publicists for self-promoting nucleo- apocalyptic- polemicists. PЄTЄRS
JV ►TALK 14:37, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]- Comment It would be helpful for editors to not do massive changes to an article once it has been nominated. That prevents others from seeing what was there when it was nominated for deletion and, in the case of massive content removal, would seek to sway consensus to delete because nothing is left. Accordingly, I expect to revert to the point at which the AFD was filed. PЄTЄRS
JV ►TALK 17:51, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]- Comment I think it's a sign of good faith to not make major changes once an article has nominated for AfD. Removing a majority of content at that point, whether appropriate or not to the article, is not appropriate to the process—which should be the discussion of the article as it stood at nomination in case individuals have opinions to express about the sources cited, have improvements to suggest, etc. It's best we all conduct ourselves in a manner which engenders WP:AGF.PЄTЄRS
JV ►TALK 00:26, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment I think it's a sign of good faith to not make major changes once an article has nominated for AfD. Removing a majority of content at that point, whether appropriate or not to the article, is not appropriate to the process—which should be the discussion of the article as it stood at nomination in case individuals have opinions to express about the sources cited, have improvements to suggest, etc. It's best we all conduct ourselves in a manner which engenders WP:AGF.PЄTЄRS
- Comment It would be helpful for editors to not do massive changes to an article once it has been nominated. That prevents others from seeing what was there when it was nominated for deletion and, in the case of massive content removal, would seek to sway consensus to delete because nothing is left. Accordingly, I expect to revert to the point at which the AFD was filed. PЄTЄRS
- Delete There is insufficient information available about the subject and the sources used are mostly not reliable for BLPs, viz., opinion pieces by other writers. Note that his book was self-published, using "Black Forest Publishing", "Christian" "self publishing experts". TFD (talk) 15:58, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete I have gone thru the article and removed all arbitrary sourcing which does not establish notability for this individual, and which in fact do not even mention him by name. The guy is definitely on the fringes. After removing irrelevant material and editorial (as in WP editor) commentary, and external links spam, all that we are left with is 3 "references" which are simply links to article listings on websites he is or has been associated with (i.e. don't provide any notability for him)...we also have a single "reference" which is his own website (i.e. again doesn't help with establishing notability), and then last but not least we have a single reference to antiwar.com which contained a paragraph on WND in which the only thing that is about Nyquist is "In addition, if their columnist J.R. Nyquist is an "expert" on Russia, then I'm Henry Kissinger. But don't let this keep you away: it's well worth a daily visit." So in essence, an article on Nyquist would look like....
- Jeffrey R. Nyquist is the author of a book Origins of the Fourth World War and is currently a regular geopolitical columnist for Financial Sense Online, a website run by a financial advice firm.[1] He was previously a regular columnist for WorldNetDaily from 1999 until 2001.[2] According to Henry Kissinger he is an expert on Russia.
- This one is a firm delete. --Russavia I'm chanting as we speak 16:41, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment The changes I have made to the article are not bad faith edits, nor are they poor form. They are edits which are backed up by policy. This edit removes information which is a rack on which one hangs their coats - the source does not mention Nyquist, it is about a fringe conspiracy theory promoted by Anatoliy Golitsyn. It may be suitable for an article on the theory (if it is notable), but it does nothing to give notability to Nyquist. This edit removes commentary on Stanislav Lunev, and an "advert" for Lunev's book. This edit removes commentary on Geoff Metcalf. Commentary is best left to individual's articles. This edit removes WP:BLP violating editorial commentary on the political stances of Justin Raimondo. This edit removes external links spam. A list of Nyquists articles are already available as references, we don't need cherry picked articles placed in external links because an editor may agree with his views. A link to his website is left in line with WP:EL. It isn't very nice for one to characterise these edits as poor form, as it is not assuming good faith on my part. It also is not necessary for an article to be in the same form it came to AfD, otherwise one wouldn't be able improve the article, and these changes, whilst they have removed some irrelevant information and commentary, are an improvement to the article. --Russavia I'm chanting as we speak 05:35, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know where the supposed kudos from Henry Kissinger originated, but that is CERTAINLY not something Mr. Nyquist claims himself. I don't think he's ever even MET HK, nor do I know if HK is even familiar with JRN's work and writings. JRN is no longer affiliated with WND. He writes a column for FinancialSense.com and broadcasts interviews with various persons of interest (Russian defectors, former Russian/CommBloc intelligence officers still living in Russia, Russian and former CommBloc journalists, etc.) via podcast. I know Mr. Nyquist personally and, in my humble opinion, he does very important work which should be spread far and wide. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.95.137.124 (talk) 23:17, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete - non-notable person. I can't find any coverage of him in reliable sources. Robofish (talk) 00:19, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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