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The result was delete. Non-admin closure. Alex discussion ★ 14:43, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
Historically Roman Catholic nations
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Seems silly to have a page dedicated to listing Historically Roman Catholic nations when there is only one. If someone has a decent idea for a merge I would support it, although I imagine that'd be a bit pointless. Sulfurboy (talk) 01:19, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
- Delete - it's a combination of a dictionary definition that isn't properly defined and some lovely original research (which is factually incorrect anyway). There are a good number of South American countries that would tick all three boxes - "roots in Catholicism, were founded by Catholics, or have a large Catholic population" - but the subject itself is just nonsense. Stalwart111 02:49, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
- Comment - and I've just opened this associated AFD nomination. Stalwart111 04:33, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
- Delete As pointed out, a very muddled concept and I cannot see it going anywhere. Since the topic necessarily imports an historical perspective, it runs into the difficulty that many current states acquired a concept of nationhood or political identity at a time when most of the population were Catholic. One could make a case for saying that Spain and Portugal owe existence to an aggressively Catholic claim to supremacy, but that is a different history from many other nations which are encompassed within the very broad definition and I fail to see a unifying identity there. --AJHingston (talk) 09:28, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
- Delete The source cited did not even use the expression, much less define it. Even if it could be shown that this particular expression is used the article would still be a dictionary definition only. Unless you want to have an article about Catholic nations as a group, which seems a little ponderous. And of course Vatican City is not a nation, except perhaps in a legal, diplomatic sense. BayShrimp (talk) 12:15, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
- Delete Fails on every level - lack of reliable sources, giving a dictionary definition (again, unsourced), doing OR, etc., etc. Nwlaw63 (talk) 12:51, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Religion-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000(talk) 00:53, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
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