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The result was delete. J04n(talk page) 16:50, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
Hard Luck Hank
- Hard Luck Hank (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log · Stats)
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Can't find anything to suggest notability for these books. TheLongTone (talk) 14:09, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
KEEP Article was updated with numerous links and interviews. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:E000:9389:5500:E883:ACF8:A2DB:2B83 (talk) 13:06, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
http://uparoundthecorner.blogspot.com/2014/08/interview-with-author-steven-campbell.html
http://www.sfsignal.com/archives/2016/02/interview-sci-fi-humor-author-hard-luck-hank-series/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:E000:9389:5500:F181:D103:FDBB:A7AB (talk) 16:46, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
- These reviews are not from adequate sources. Goodreads for the live of Mike.TheLongTone (talk) 13:17, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
- Interviews tend to be a bit questionable on here. I personally see them as a sign of notability since being interviewed by a RS like the dearly departed SF Signal is no small feat, however one interview isn't enough to keep an article and so far that's the strongest source I saw on the page. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 07:36, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
- On a side note, I'm removing the section about reception since it's solely sourced to random user reviews on various websites, none of which are selective about who posts reviews. Anyone can review there and as such, Wikipedia does not care about the user ratings on those sites unless said ratings have received coverage ala Saving Christmas or Bend, Not Break. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 07:38, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
- Also, we should avoid linking to e-commerce sites in general since their primary goal is to sell you something, which can give off the impression of a potential bias. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 07:39, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
- These reviews are not from adequate sources. Goodreads for the live of Mike.TheLongTone (talk) 13:17, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
I am also nominating a biog of the author:
- Steven Campbell (author) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Science fiction-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 18:13, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 18:13, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 18:14, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
- Delete Hard Luck Hank. I can't see where these books have received any coverage outside of the SF Signal interview, which as stated above is not enough to assert notability in and of itself. It's extremely difficult for self-published series to gain enough coverage to warrant inclusion and for every WOOL there are thousands of non-notable books, however Wikipedia cannot and should not be expected to make up the difference. I'll do a separate search for the author, but offhand I'm expecting for his article to fail as well. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 07:47, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
- Keep Hard Luck Hank. Per above, for every Pulp Fiction there are thousands of movies that cost $30,000 and yet they are still on Wikipedia. The series is from a professional author [per facebook]. Why do editors have an axe against books but let even the most obscure film or even short film pass even if the money and audience involved favors the novels? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:E000:9389:5500:D36:A1D7:AC07:7265 (talk) 17:27, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
- Delete Steven Campbell (author). I can't find anything to suggest that Campbell is notable either. Sometimes authors can achieve independent notability even if their body of work fails NBOOK, but this isn't one of those cases. It looks like the only coverage he's received in RS has been the SF Signal interview. Everything else has been primary or in self-published sources like blogs and the like, not in any place that Wikipedia would consider reliable. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 08:20, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
- Delete. both the book series and the author. The books are self published, and worldcat shows only the first 3; only the first 2 have library holdings--in each case, 2 libraries. A person's claims to be a professional writer can not be supported merely by saying so on Facebook. DGG ( talk ) 23:52, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
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