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The result was delete. North America1000 11:21, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
Duende Literary
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Non-notable, relatively new journal. Not indexed in any selective databases, no independent sources apart from a review in a blog (not a reliable source) and a brief mention in a list on Blavity (not clear whether that is a reliable source, but in any case, just a list, no in-depth coverage). Does not meet WP:NJournals or WP:GNG. Randykitty (talk) 06:12, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
- Delete: I'm not finding any independent and reliable sources that would make it meet WP:GNG or any indication that it meets [WP:NJournals]]. Found a few republished press releases, but no in depth coverage. the blog mentioned above does have an in-depth review, but doesn't constitute a RS, as it is self-published. — crh 23 (Talk) 10:10, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
- I agree that it is a new journal with more limited notability than some, however I believe that it still meets the basic requirements for a stub. My reasoning is centered around the addition of another literary magazine / Folia to Wikipedia's list of literary magazines, which doesn't appear to have any more significant sources that what's provided here. As another point, Duende has additional notability due to its most recent issue, which published an essay by Mumia Abu-Jamal - one that had been previously published. LockedHalo (talk) 17:41, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
- Comment I'm sorry, but arguments using WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS don't really count. And it's not all that important what Duende publishes, it's what others publish about Duende that counts. Reprintiong an almost 2à-years-old essay really is not that big of a feat... --Randykitty (talk) 17:52, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
- Comment It does however provide an additional source of notability, at least within some margin. Apologies for not handling my point regarding Folio correctly - I did take that article's level of notability as a general guideline for what would be considered acceptable notability in this specific case as well, assuming that there was some sort of general rubric in place for what meets or doesn't meet the criteria for inclusion in the wiki - this is obviously my failing as someone new to wikipedia editing. Jumping back to my earlier point though, I believe that the inclusion of said essay and the Duotrope listing both amount to credible sources for notability in this case, with an argument to be made for keeping the page a stub until more sources appear available. If not, no biggie. Can this be added to my userspace if it does get denied, so I can tinker with it on my own? LockedHalo (talk) 03:44, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
- The closing admin can certainly "userfy" this if the decision would be to delete the article. --Randykitty (talk) 09:18, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
- Comment It does however provide an additional source of notability, at least within some margin. Apologies for not handling my point regarding Folio correctly - I did take that article's level of notability as a general guideline for what would be considered acceptable notability in this specific case as well, assuming that there was some sort of general rubric in place for what meets or doesn't meet the criteria for inclusion in the wiki - this is obviously my failing as someone new to wikipedia editing. Jumping back to my earlier point though, I believe that the inclusion of said essay and the Duotrope listing both amount to credible sources for notability in this case, with an argument to be made for keeping the page a stub until more sources appear available. If not, no biggie. Can this be added to my userspace if it does get denied, so I can tinker with it on my own? LockedHalo (talk) 03:44, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
- Comment I'm sorry, but arguments using WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS don't really count. And it's not all that important what Duende publishes, it's what others publish about Duende that counts. Reprintiong an almost 2à-years-old essay really is not that big of a feat... --Randykitty (talk) 17:52, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
- I agree that it is a new journal with more limited notability than some, however I believe that it still meets the basic requirements for a stub. My reasoning is centered around the addition of another literary magazine / Folia to Wikipedia's list of literary magazines, which doesn't appear to have any more significant sources that what's provided here. As another point, Duende has additional notability due to its most recent issue, which published an essay by Mumia Abu-Jamal - one that had been previously published. LockedHalo (talk) 17:41, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
- Delete - No better sourcing found. Since the name of the magazine is apparently simply Duende rather than Duende Literary, suggest moving to "Duende (journal)" or some other reasonable disambiguation if the article is kept. --Finngall talk 17:57, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 16:11, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Vermont-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 16:11, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
- Delete as still questionable for the needed notability improvements. SwisterTwister talk 06:58, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
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