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The result was delete. Sandstein 18:48, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
Buddylist
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Fails WP:GNG sourced only to an "amazing social media platform" press release and a blog source which is just a reprint of the site's CC-Attribution-licenced description of itself (which also forms the basis of this article). McGeddon (talk) 13:50, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
I'm Still gathering information. Buddylist was featured on Examiner but the Author got deleted along with all their articles. Please give it a chance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tommy62702 (talk • contribs) 14:02, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
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- Delete Does not meet WP:GNG in its current state. Perhaps it could be userfied in a sandbox or draft space but I am not finding enough WP:SECONDARY sourcing to think that this could be upgraded to an article that meets WikiP's guidelines. BTW the addition of 'Page Protection" tags by the article creator when no admin had protected the page was not a good idea. MarnetteD|Talk 16:28, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
- Delete - standard searches did not reveal any significant coverage in independent reliable sources. -- Eclipsed (talk) (email) 09:36, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
- New Press Release has been added Located Here and is findable on google here added by Tommy62702 (talk • contribs) 23:56, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
- Other Press Release Found Here added by Tommy62702 (talk • contribs) 3:40, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
- High Pr4 Blog Article Here added by Tommy62702 (talk • contribs) 3:42, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
- Press Release Here added by Tommy62702 (talk • contribs) 3:45, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
- Press releases are considered primary sources per WP:NEWSPRIMARY and cannot be used to establish notability. Blogs should only be used when written by a recognised authority in the field, per WP:BLOGS, but your "High Pr4 Blog Article" is the one I mentioned in the AfD nomination as being a simple reprint of the site's own description of itself. --McGeddon (talk) 12:39, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
- Well it looks like the author used Snips from Buddylist Wiki page. I'm not seeing how you are saying It is copied when they wouldn't even have a article unless Buddylist already existed to write about. Nomination for afd seems invalid. added by Tommy62702 (talk • contribs) 13:14, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
- Seems like you are not trying to help this article more or less you are trying to make it fade away for some reason. According to Wiki's guide lines you suppose to help articles become better if it is legit. Guidelines also state minimal requirements is you have to at lease have 1 Google news archive which Buddylist does have. I am very new to Wiki and not 100% familiar with it yet, but If you have some kind of knowledge to make this article better then you should help improve it rather than keep trying to get it deleted. Couldn't some one make mentions on the Springfield Illinois page, or Social Networking Page, etc... I'm not sure how this all works and was hoping there would be some informative and helpful people. I am asking for help on this. I originally started this as a suggestion. I haven't had any help on this the whole entire time and I think for some one that never made a Wiki page before I am doing good and some one should help out with this. added by Tommy62702 (talk • contribs) 13:28, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
- Now some one just deleted the screen shot for it that was given to me by the owner to use. This is not helping the Article. added by Tommy62702 (talk • contribs) 13:45, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
- Name something concrete that will make this solid. I will make it happen. I'm not clearly understanding this secondary sources thing. Do you need this in news papers, Magazines, Bill boards, other bloggers? Please tell me something I can do to make this article be approved by Wiki. added by Tommy62702 (talk • contribs) 14:03, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
- As the AfD nomination says, the article does not currently meet WP:GNG. Click that link and it will tell you what level of sourcing the article requires in order to remain on Wikipedia.
- I've tried to help this article by looking for sources myself, but the only news coverage I've been able to find is unusable press releases, and unrelated articles which use the word "buddylist" to mean "list of buddies" when talking about other services (Windows Live appears to have a feature called a "buddylist"). I can't see that it meets WP:GNG. --McGeddon (talk) 19:41, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
The News Article Located Here is unusable? added by Tommy62702 (talk • contribs) 14:55, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
McGeddon please name something I can do to make this work. added by Tommy62702 (talk • contribs) 15:04, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
- I am willing to do what ever it takes to make this article solid. Any help suggestions from admins to make this Solid? added by Tommy62702 (talk • contribs) 14:20, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
- Delete, it's more or less a speedy deletion candidate as an advertisement for a website that hasn't been noticed (yet). Sionk (talk) 22:56, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
No he is nominating for a speedy deletion for no reason. How is the History of Buddylist Advertising. If that was the case then all wiki's would get deleted. There is no promotion on it. Why would you encourage his behavior? 24.12.27.232 (talk · contribs)
I hope the owner of Buddylist will see's this and chime in. I don't get why every post on here is something negative. You guys must have some really awesome lives. JK If you can't say anything nice you shouldn't say anything at all. You guys are bullies. Instead of helping some one you just trash everything they do. 24.12.27.232 (talk · contribs) — 24.12.27.232 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- I thank every one that tried to help the Wiki page for my company. They are not being bullies they just have guide lines and seem very strict about it which is understandable for it being a Online Encyclopedia. Do not be mad at the editors they are just doing there duties. It looks great Tommy but it still does need a lot more things added and more citations would make it work out a lot better. I appreciate every ones help with this. It may not be made into a official page today but in time it will eventually be a very good notable service listed on here. Tommy if that is your friend posting on the Ip tell him to not interfere with this. I do not want bad publicity. A message to MarnetteD Please do not reflect the Ip user's action against any one else but the Ip user. I am actually amazed that a user without a name can comment on here. I never really been a wiki person and I never been the type of person to use services that the masses want you to use which is the whole point of my Social network. I want people to stop using main stream stuff. Alternatives is the future and will always be. Thanx for every ones time. Have a nice day. Joshdufer 8 August 2015 — Preceding undated comment added 04:27, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
Sorry Josh I will still keep trying to make this better. I guess back to the drawing board. added by Tommy62702 (talk • contribs) 4:36, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
- Delete - and thanks to Joshdufer for understanding the process. A news search didn't reveal any sources which go to notability (most are simply to the generic term "buddylist", and not to this company). Remember that not meeting Wikipedia's standards for notability are not a judgment on the validity or usefulness of the company, they are simply thresholds which need to be met in order to provide some sort of consistency for inclusion. There are literally millions of companies without Wikipedia articles. I'm not sure if anyone posted a link, but WP:GNG and WP:NCORP clearly show how notability is met. WP:RS gives a good description on what does or does not qualify as a reliable source. Also remember, for notability purposes sources need to be independent. Onel5969 TT me 17:39, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
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