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Danialle Karmanos
- Danialle Karmanos (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Routine coverage and awards; no reliable sources. Likely not meeting ANYBIO BoraVoro (talk) 12:33, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: Some coverage of her philanthropy [1], [2], [3]. Sources 2 and 3 I've listed are more about a yoga program she founded, perhaps create the article and redirect there or to the Children's Hospital in Detroit? Oaktree b (talk) 12:58, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
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Microjazz
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Unsourced for 5 years and cannot locate any reliable sources to get it to meet WP:GNG. Random line of sheet music, not inherently notable. ZimZalaBim talk 15:55, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment: Well, this [4] helps, I'll see what else comes up... Oaktree b (talk) 19:48, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to Christopher Norton: Most hits are in relation to Christopher Norton [5], [6] are brief reviews... Unless someone can find better sourcing to !keep the article. Oaktree b (talk) 19:50, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
Otago NORML
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Most of the sources are either regional publication (mainly the Otago Daily Times), university newspapers (Critic Te Arohi) and primary-sourced YouTube video. I only see two national sources. The first I can't access, and the second is a mention of a cannabis museum but does not go into detail. ―Panamitsu (talk) 05:32, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep I'd give the ODT more credit than being a regional publication; it's the major newspaper covering Otago. Yes, that is a region, but you could also argue the same for The Press in Christchurch, and I would also disagree with that thinking. The sustained ODT coverage brings this over the general notability line for me. Schwede66 07:32, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep as the ODT and One News coverage clearly establishes notability imo. David Palmer//cloventt (talk) 08:15, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep While there are not 'more' sources available, but the existing ones establish the subject's notability. For example, the Critic here, establish GNG. Others include Otago Times here among others. --Tumbuka Arch (talk) 08:55, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- I don't think Critic Te Ārohi established notability as it is a student newspaper of Otago University. ―Panamitsu (talk) 09:08, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep, agreed with comments above. ODT establishes notability. Student newspapers are prone to inaccuracy and errors but I suppose they might be used in this context. Alexeyevitch(talk) 09:36, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- Delete (or redirect to NORML New Zealand) as lacking significant non-trivial coverage. I don’t think the ODT is an unreliable source, nor do I think regional papers should be looked down on (technically all of NZ’s printed newspapers are regional), but most of the “coverage” in the article is very sparse, and neither the ODT nor the One News sources represent non-trivial coverage of the org itself, so much as coverage of various events and people where the org was mentioned (per WP:SIGCOV example on Clinton’s high school band). I have the impression the org is currently defunct or inactive. Thanks Panamitsu, I have been meaning to nominate this article for a while. — HTGS (talk) 10:10, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. None of the discussion of Otago Daily Times is relevant; WP:BRANCH is extremely clear that "the individual chapters of national and international organizations are usually not considered notable enough to warrant a separate article – unless they are substantially discussed by reliable independent sources that extend beyond the chapter's local area." Every source in this article, and every source I could find in a BEFORE search, is either local to the Dunedin area or to the university itself. (The only non-local source is really about Abe Gray and a museum, not sigcov of Otago NORML.) I would encourage other editors and participants here to engage with the WP:BRANCH criteria here, since WP:ORGCRIT establishes a higher standard than WP:GNG for organizations. Dclemens1971 (talk) 16:03, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
Master of Science in Global Finance
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This appears to be one program for one university that does not seem to be notable in itself. Sargdub (talk) 00:25, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. Not only is it unsourced, a quick google search reveals it isn't exclusive to one or two university. 104.7.152.180 (talk) 03:14, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
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Mathematics education in New York
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Almost entirely unsourced and out-of-date. Insufficiently distinct from Mathematics education in the United States. Possibly could be redirected to New York Regents Examinations. Walsh90210 (talk) 02:16, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
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Dozy Mmobuosi Foundation
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Not meeting GNG; Promo; delete or redirect to Dozy Mmobuosi or BoraVoro (talk) 11:28, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
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Out of Afrika
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No extensive third-party coverage to meet GNG. LibStar (talk) 16:31, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
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Bukit Jalil National Secondary School
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Non notable school fails to satisfy the notability guidelines for organizations see WP:NSCHOOL. Existing sources show passing mentions only and a before comes up with nothing of note. Theroadislong (talk) 17:17, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
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- It is a Malaysian article, you don't search Bukit Jalil National Secondary School which is the non-native name and expect to find a lot of things. As per the Wikipedia article, the school is commonly referred to as 'SMK Bukit Jalil' and 'Sekolah Menengah Kebangsaan Bukit Jalil.' Here are the materials/citations that I've not put and put some are in Malay and some are not. In the mean time the article has been moved to draft.
- https://www.mymrt.com.my/ms/info-truck-year/2018-ms/page/3/?post_type=mrt-info-truck
- https://bjalil.pimaxis.my/pendidikan.html
- https://www.limkokwing.net/cambodia/news/article/smk_bukit_jalil_students_visit_limkokwing_university
- https://www.thestar.com.my/metro/metro-news/2024/03/31/freak-thunderstorm-wreaks-havoc-in-government-housing-schemes-in-kl
- https://www.thestar.com.my/news/community/2006/10/27/latecomer-still-shines-in-handball
- https://unclekentang.com/blog/2020/03/11/taklimat-cpr-kepada-350-badan-unit-beruniform-smk-bukit-jalil/
- http://kmz.com.my/?page_id=417
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- Comment You have clearly misunderstood what we mean by significant coverage, all of the above are passing mentions only. Theroadislong (talk) 18:08, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom, no sign of notability of any flavour. --DoubleGrazing (talk) 18:20, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom; notability nowhere near established. Feline Hymnic (talk) 22:14, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom; searching for further coverage under the "commonly referred to" names referenced in the first comment here doesn't dredge up anything supporting notability either. Chiselinccc (talk) 06:21, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
Microlecture
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A hat-rack article with no clear topic. Primarily a list of citations, rather than actual content. Walsh90210 (talk) 03:39, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep. The article is written pretty badly but the large number of sources are in fact good. There are a whole lot of studies but it seems like there would almost definitely be at least 3 in there specifically mentioning microlectures which are also reliable and secondary.
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- 1. https://statenews.com/article/2009/03/microlectures_turn_lessons_into_interactive_snippets
- 2. https://campustechnology.com/articles/2010/11/10/teaching-in-one-minute-snippets.aspx
- 3. (off google not the thing, accepts submissions from non-journalists) https://www.facultyfocus.com/articles/online-education/online-course-delivery-and-instruction/microlectures-101-what-why-how/
- 4. (from the thing) short mention in fox news
- So the article has a clear topic, at least 2 reliable secondary sources, and a number of journal articles (plus many, many unreliable blogs). I think there's not really a good case to delete here, the article is just bad and basically needs to be started from scratch without all the blogs. Mrfoogles (talk) 07:40, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- That said it might be a fad and not be the sustained coverage policy, but I'd say keep it. Mrfoogles (talk) 07:41, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- Is there a different word for "lectures on TikTok"? I would not be too surprised if there is more coverage of the general concept under a different name.
I'm not entirely convinced yet, but the links at [7] (which links to your link 3) suggest this might be "keep but re-write". Walsh90210 (talk) 15:15, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
RRLS ICT Academy
- RRLS ICT Academy (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fairly new private school with questionable notability due to lack of reliable sources online. Sanglahi86 (talk) 02:10, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete per nom. Claim for notability is that it is TESDA accredited. However, accreditation is mandatory and just requires routine paperwork and orientation from TESDA. --Lenticel (talk) 12:39, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
Fontys Academy of Journalism
- Fontys Academy of Journalism (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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There has not been a source added to this article since it was created in 2006. Ktkvtsh (talk) 21:50, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Merge into Fontys University of Applied Sciences#Tilburg as a premature SPINOFF without prejudice against a justified spinoff. No valid reason to delete was brought forward so tempting to just procedural keep. Merge, however, is a correcter resolution. gidonb (talk) 00:38, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- Merge and redirect as above. Appears to fail GNG, and therefore WP:NORG. This, however, is based on an English language source, and better sources proving notability may exist in Dutch. Bgv. (talk) 08:13, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
Abbas El-Akkad Experimental Language School
- Abbas El-Akkad Experimental Language School (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Delete Fails to meet WP:NSCHOOL. Wikilover3509 (talk) 15:02, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete per nom. Fails WP:CCOS, GNG and NORG. Bgv. (talk) 08:15, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
A.P.J.M. Matriculation Higher Secondary School
- A.P.J.M. Matriculation Higher Secondary School (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Delete Fails to meet WP:NSCHOOL. Can be mentioned as an educational institution in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanyakumari_district Wikilover3509 (talk) 14:28, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
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Narayandas Laddha High School
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I cant find any mention of this school in reliable secondary sources, fails notability requirements for school (WP:NSCHOOL). Ratnahastin (talk) 02:08, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 02:19, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
Prabodhan Vidyalaya School
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Zero coverage in independent sources,fails WP:NSCHOOLRatnahastin (talk) 02:05, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
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Exformation
- Exformation (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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A gestalt article on three different articles that define this word differently. No substantial independent coverage for any definition. Walsh90210 (talk) 23:39, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete because no independent coverage. 104.7.152.180 (talk) 13:40, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
Wellbeing Literacy
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Promotional and created by an SPA account.
Insufficient sourcing independent of Lindsay Oades, a few other scholarly articles exist but none appear substantial enough to re-write this article. Walsh90210 (talk) 23:35, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete if not speedy delete because of advertisement/COI. 104.7.152.180 (talk) 13:41, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
Western education (disambiguation)
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Not a valid disambiguation page, just synonyms of a vague term. Walsh90210 (talk) 18:26, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete per nom. Makes no sense as a disambiguation page. Sadustu Tau (talk) 19:43, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete - I don't think wikipedia currently has the articles someone would be looking for if they were searching for western education. I can see what the DAB page creator was going for... education about the west from the east, but a language school and European studies doesn't really fit the bill, and European studies... well, it's about the foundations of western culture, but you can't really say Europe is the entirety of the west but rather a subset of it. And a single school that teaches languages is undue weight. An article about Western Education itself might be useful, contrasting with Confucianism. An article about how information about the west is communicated in the East would be interesting. But I just don't think we cover these things, likely due to the inherent WP:SYSTEMIC bias that comes from being written by volunteers who are, themselves, western (myself included). Fieari (talk) 23:34, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
Udutu
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Reads promo-y currently and I'm not turning up any RS coverage. Some mentions in books that list software, and it looks like its won some minor awards. ~Bluecrystal004 (talk · contribs) 03:28, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
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Education Facilitators
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Potentially ambiguous title. Doesn't appear to meet WP:ORG / WP:GNG. Unreferenced for 14 years. Boleyn (talk) 16:04, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
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Bago University Students' Union
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I have performed WP:BEFORE and searched for in-depth coverage from independent reliable sources. However, I found only these:
- https://www.rfa.org/burmese/news/admin-pressure-students-01212014214421.html
- https://www.rfa.org/burmese/news/white-armband-movement-03262015105432.html
- https://www.myanmarwitness.org/reports/violence-against-protestors-in-bago
- https://ca.style.yahoo.com/news/myanmars-military-charging-families-85-131919731.html
- https://edition.cnn.com/2021/04/11/asia/myanmar-families-bago-bodies-intl-hnk/index.html
These sources are just passing mentions. The subject fails to meet WP:GNG. The majority of sources that are cited are about the protest and arrest, where other people and this union's members were arrested. Does this establish notability? Please ping me if you find any in-depth coverage of the subject. GrabUp - Talk 10:02, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
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Cardus Education Survey Canada
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Came across the article on the Christian think tank Cardus today, which appears to be the result of WP:UPE. I stubified that rather than nominate it for deletion because it looks like there's enough out there for WP:ORG. But that led me to this, a long article on one of Cardus's reports, again with no good independent sourcing at all (but a whole lot of text). Wouldn't be surprised if this were UPE too. In any event, if there's a little bit of coverage it can be summarized in the main article. WP:GNG fail here. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 16:22, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
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Matching person and technology model
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Notability and quality issues. The article was created by a single-purpose account in 2009. None of the content is sourced, the "general" references are generally about "assistive technology" or are by MJ Scherer, the creator of this model. Google Scholar has about 3 results not associated with Scherer, which use this as background.
None of the current content should be merged to assistive technology, so I have not unilaterally redirected the article. However, if there is sourced content to include there, I am not opposed to that redirect. Walsh90210 (talk) 22:12, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
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Robert Gordon University – Garthdee campus
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This whole page reads like an overly detailed promotional pamphlet for the Robert Gordon University, and the main Robert Gordon University article has most, if not all, of the useful information from this article in its Garthdee campus section UltrasonicMadness (talk) 19:52, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Merge with Robert Gordon University Charlie (talk) 04:47, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- Delete It sounds like one very-detailed long-winded advertisement promoting the campus. I wouldn't even suggesting merging it as the main Robert Gordon University article seems to already have all the relevant information about the campus. 2001:8003:6C0A:B100:984F:1071:4595:9DCE (talk) 09:26, 29 May 2024 (UTC)— 2001:8003:6C0A:B100:984F:1071:4595:9DCE (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- Keep I created this article as the content was making the university article very long. Concerns about it being promotional can be addressed through editing. However, there is sufficient sourcing to meet GNG. LibStar (talk) 13:47, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
Erasmus Student Network Armenia
- Erasmus Student Network Armenia (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Local branch of Erasmus Student Network, no independent notability. Broc (talk) 08:31, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep- Working on expanding the article. ESN Armenia is quite active and one of the more notable student organizations within the country. English publications may be limited as most of the content referencing the org is in Armenian. Will continue to expand with refs. Any help is appreciated :) Archives908 (talk) 15:49, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
- Merge into a subsection of Erasmus Student Network. I do not think it is bad that the information is out there if verifiable and noteworthy enough to mention specifically, though ESN Armenia is hardly notorious enough to warrant their own WP article, considering that there are 44 national, and even more regional ESN network organisations. Note also that Erasmus Student Network Yerevan has also been created, and would merit the same treatment. --Konanen (talk) 18:24, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
Nkawkaw Senior High School
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Nothing much to be notable. While I agree with WP:NSCHOOLS, "secondary schools are not presumed to be notable simply because they exist, and are still subject both to the standards of notability, as well as those for organizations." I can't find any WP:GNG or WP:ORGCRITE for a simple article. WP:SIRS already was not enough except for the schools 50th anniversary. A redirect can be kept though at List of schools in Ghana#N. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 16:21, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep This may not be the most influential school in all of Ghana, but it meets the GNG and WP:NORG. See source analysis below. Bgv. (talk) 08:57, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Babegriev, I still guess why this and this should be called WP:SIGCOV or attribution for WP:GNG. Per WP:NHSCHOOL, these are type of sources used to clarify a school exist just not about notability. It was a passing mention of "breaking a teacher's windscreen or thereabout" in this source, and here about a set/class that did something for the school (which is no way notability). It's very hard to see this things and say a school lacks notability, that's why even the SNG guideline says "all school are assumed to be notable". You can also see WP:SCHOOLOUTCOME. Thanks. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 09:47, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
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https://www.ghanaiantimes.com.gh/nkawkaw-shs-celebrates-50th-anniversary/ | No association with subject known | Meets WP:NEWSORG | School is the subject of the article | ✔ Yes |
https://newsghana.com.gh/nkawkaw-shs-lacks-logistics/ | No association with subject known | ~ Appears to meet WP:NEWSORG | Critical article about the school and its administration | ~ Partial |
https://www.modernghana.com/news/1119989/solution-to-west-african-senior-school-certificate.html | No association with subject known | Meets WP:NEWSORG | Speaks to the school's involvement with a state examination controversy. | ✔ Yes |
https://www.modernghana.com/news/817913/nkawkaw-senior-high-school-receives-support-from-1992-year-g.html | No association with subject | Meets WP:NEWSORG | Coverage of alumna's philanthropy to school. | ✔ Yes |
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KUJH-LP
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Fails WP:GNG; merge with University of Kansas#Media. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 13:15, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Redirect to University of Kansas#Media: a remnant of the considerably looser inclusion standards of 2006, the brief mention there is probably all we really need in 2024, and a redirect is a valid enough alternative to deletion. (The sourcing is too scant to merit actually merging anything.) WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 05:25, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
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Doña Lourdes Institute of Technology
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Private school that does not appear notable due to lack of reliable sources. Sanglahi86 (talk) 13:23, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete no reliable ref hits on GSearch, GNews and GNews Archives. Alternatively, redirect to General_Santos#Education per WP:ATD. --Lenticel (talk) 11:39, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
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MES College
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Does not meet WP:NORG. The only source is from the college's LinkedIn page, and I found no press coverage online. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 13:03, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Merge Doesn't warrant its own page since it doesn't meet GNG. Can be included in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goa_University#Recognised_institutions Wikilover3509 (talk) 13:35, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Redirect to Goa University#Recognised institutions as an ATD. The college by itself doesn't meet WP:NSCHOOL. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 07:40, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
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Benazir Bhutto Shaheed University of Technology and Skill Development
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Lacks sig/in-depth coverage so, fails WP:GNG. I don't see it passing WP:ORG either. —Saqib (talk I contribs) 09:21, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep - appears notable, see Jang, Urdu Point, Dawn, [8], Business Recorder, Urdu Point, Daily Outcome, Dunya, Jang, etc. Again, I'd like to stress that the nominator posted 7 AfD nominations with identical rationales with 2 minutes, no indication of any real WP:BEFORE being performed. --Soman (talk) 12:53, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment: Does any law from the government or state say it's a public university? Charlie (talk) 04:41, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- CharlieMehta, This is what HEC says
HEC NOC granted provisionally for 6 months upto June, 2017
. —Saqib (talk I contribs) 08:31, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- CharlieMehta, This is what HEC says
Temoc
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Was turned into a redirect due to having no independent sources before I brought it back. I think this does deserve some discussion because there are a lot of mascot pages that are sourced similarly to Temoc. Okmrman (talk) 21:51, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect as the person who first redirected the article. The fact that
there are a lot of mascot pages that are sourced similarly to Temoc
means that there are a lot of mascot pages that ought to be deleted for failing WP:GNG. Excluding press releases from UTD and articles from its student newspapers, the best references I could find were insignificant coverage from The Straits Times and the Chronical of Higher Education Mach61 22:09, 11 May 2024 (UTC)- Redirect to Texas-Dallas Comets, specifically Mach61 23:48, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment perhaps the article could be broadened to be about "student life" in general? A lot of the article is about topics only tangentially related to the athletic mascot. Texas–Dallas Comets is the only plausible merge (or redirect) target I see, none of this material needs to be in the main university article. Walsh90210 (talk) 16:25, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
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Government Ayurvedic College, Guwahati
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Tried to improve the article but I failed to improve it per WP:SNG as well as others. Twinkle1990 (talk) 16:53, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep There are plenty of reliable sources and qualifies for WP:GNG. It have both WP: PRIMARY and WP: SECONDARY sources mentioned as references. It also has historical importance as it is first and only Ayurvedic College in North East India region. -AjayDas (talk) 08:30, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- I was also not in favor to delete it. But I couldn't find sufficient references to establish the WP:GNG. If you can demonstrate the notability with sourcing, please do it. Otherwise, just a! vote and
" it is first and only Ayurvedic College in North East India region."
is not helping it anyhow.
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- Keep There are plenty of reliable sources and qualifies for WP:GNG. It have both WP: PRIMARY and WP: SECONDARY sources mentioned as references. It also has historical importance as it is first and only Ayurvedic College in North East India region. -AjayDas (talk) 08:30, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. This page has poor sources and it does not satisfy the notability guidelines for organizations. Fails WP:NSCHOOL. RangersRus (talk) 14:29, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
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Redirect to Srimanta Sankaradeva University of Health Sciences to which it is affiliated. Founded in 1948 it is 75 years atleast clearly a search term.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 20:25, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: As per my check, I found nothing that can be called in-depth coverage. The subject fails to meet WP:GNG and WP:NSCHOOL. It requires in-depth coverage from multiple independent reliable sources to establish notability. GrabUp - Talk 08:47, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
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Washington International Diplomatic Academy
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Sources provided are primary and/or non-independent. A search does not uncover any further SIGCOV in independent sources. Organisation seems unlikely to meet WP:GNG or WP:NORG. Triptothecottage (talk) 22:39, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
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Bukit Jalil National Secondary School
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Non notable school fails to satisfy the notability guidelines for organizations see WP:NSCHOOL. Existing sources show passing mentions only and a before comes up with nothing of note. Theroadislong (talk) 17:17, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
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- It is a Malaysian article, you don't search Bukit Jalil National Secondary School which is the non-native name and expect to find a lot of things. As per the Wikipedia article, the school is commonly referred to as 'SMK Bukit Jalil' and 'Sekolah Menengah Kebangsaan Bukit Jalil.' Here are the materials/citations that I've not put and put some are in Malay and some are not. In the mean time the article has been moved to draft.
- https://www.mymrt.com.my/ms/info-truck-year/2018-ms/page/3/?post_type=mrt-info-truck
- https://bjalil.pimaxis.my/pendidikan.html
- https://www.limkokwing.net/cambodia/news/article/smk_bukit_jalil_students_visit_limkokwing_university
- https://www.thestar.com.my/metro/metro-news/2024/03/31/freak-thunderstorm-wreaks-havoc-in-government-housing-schemes-in-kl
- https://www.thestar.com.my/news/community/2006/10/27/latecomer-still-shines-in-handball
- https://unclekentang.com/blog/2020/03/11/taklimat-cpr-kepada-350-badan-unit-beruniform-smk-bukit-jalil/
- http://kmz.com.my/?page_id=417
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- Comment You have clearly misunderstood what we mean by significant coverage, all of the above are passing mentions only. Theroadislong (talk) 18:08, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom, no sign of notability of any flavour. --DoubleGrazing (talk) 18:20, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom; notability nowhere near established. Feline Hymnic (talk) 22:14, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom; searching for further coverage under the "commonly referred to" names referenced in the first comment here doesn't dredge up anything supporting notability either. Chiselinccc (talk) 06:21, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
RRLS ICT Academy
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Fairly new private school with questionable notability due to lack of reliable sources online. Sanglahi86 (talk) 02:10, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete per nom. Claim for notability is that it is TESDA accredited. However, accreditation is mandatory and just requires routine paperwork and orientation from TESDA. --Lenticel (talk) 12:39, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
Fontys Academy of Journalism
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There has not been a source added to this article since it was created in 2006. Ktkvtsh (talk) 21:50, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Merge into Fontys University of Applied Sciences#Tilburg as a premature SPINOFF without prejudice against a justified spinoff. No valid reason to delete was brought forward so tempting to just procedural keep. Merge, however, is a correcter resolution. gidonb (talk) 00:38, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- Merge and redirect as above. Appears to fail GNG, and therefore WP:NORG. This, however, is based on an English language source, and better sources proving notability may exist in Dutch. Bgv. (talk) 08:13, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
Abbas El-Akkad Experimental Language School
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Delete Fails to meet WP:NSCHOOL. Wikilover3509 (talk) 15:02, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete per nom. Fails WP:CCOS, GNG and NORG. Bgv. (talk) 08:15, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
A.P.J.M. Matriculation Higher Secondary School
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Delete Fails to meet WP:NSCHOOL. Can be mentioned as an educational institution in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanyakumari_district Wikilover3509 (talk) 14:28, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
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List of Adventist schools in the Philippines
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Contested prod. Prod reason states "This list is made up of mostly schools that are not notable and also there are no references it has been like this from day one that it was created". As I am conducting a procedural AfD, I am neutral on the matter. --Lenticel (talk) 02:21, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
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Rename to List of Adventist universities in the Philippines. As far as sourcing goes, I wouldn't know what is available in reliability, but I figured reducing the list to be just the colleges and universities would be more suitable to WP:LISTN. Conyo14 (talk) 04:14, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete the majority of Seventh-day Adventist schools in the Philippines are not notable and never will be. And we do not need a separate list for Seventh-day Adventist colleges and universities in the Philippines, that is why we have List of Seventh-day Adventist colleges and universities. Catfurball (talk) 16:14, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
Prabodhan Vidyalaya School
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Zero coverage in independent sources,fails WP:NSCHOOLRatnahastin (talk) 02:05, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
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Narayandas Laddha High School
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I cant find any mention of this school in reliable secondary sources, fails notability requirements for school (WP:NSCHOOL). Ratnahastin (talk) 02:08, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
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Nkawkaw Senior High School
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Nothing much to be notable. While I agree with WP:NSCHOOLS, "secondary schools are not presumed to be notable simply because they exist, and are still subject both to the standards of notability, as well as those for organizations." I can't find any WP:GNG or WP:ORGCRITE for a simple article. WP:SIRS already was not enough except for the schools 50th anniversary. A redirect can be kept though at List of schools in Ghana#N. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 16:21, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep This may not be the most influential school in all of Ghana, but it meets the GNG and WP:NORG. See source analysis below. Bgv. (talk) 08:57, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Babegriev, I still guess why this and this should be called WP:SIGCOV or attribution for WP:GNG. Per WP:NHSCHOOL, these are type of sources used to clarify a school exist just not about notability. It was a passing mention of "breaking a teacher's windscreen or thereabout" in this source, and here about a set/class that did something for the school (which is no way notability). It's very hard to see this things and say a school lacks notability, that's why even the SNG guideline says "all school are assumed to be notable". You can also see WP:SCHOOLOUTCOME. Thanks. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 09:47, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
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https://www.ghanaiantimes.com.gh/nkawkaw-shs-celebrates-50th-anniversary/ | No association with subject known | Meets WP:NEWSORG | School is the subject of the article | ✔ Yes |
https://newsghana.com.gh/nkawkaw-shs-lacks-logistics/ | No association with subject known | ~ Appears to meet WP:NEWSORG | Critical article about the school and its administration | ~ Partial |
https://www.modernghana.com/news/1119989/solution-to-west-african-senior-school-certificate.html | No association with subject known | Meets WP:NEWSORG | Speaks to the school's involvement with a state examination controversy. | ✔ Yes |
https://www.modernghana.com/news/817913/nkawkaw-senior-high-school-receives-support-from-1992-year-g.html | No association with subject | Meets WP:NEWSORG | Coverage of alumna's philanthropy to school. | ✔ Yes |
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}. |
Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 09:48, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
MES College
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Does not meet WP:NORG. The only source is from the college's LinkedIn page, and I found no press coverage online. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 13:03, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Merge Doesn't warrant its own page since it doesn't meet GNG. Can be included in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goa_University#Recognised_institutions Wikilover3509 (talk) 13:35, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Redirect to Goa University#Recognised institutions as an ATD. The college by itself doesn't meet WP:NSCHOOL. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 07:40, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
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Doña Lourdes Institute of Technology
- Doña Lourdes Institute of Technology (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Private school that does not appear notable due to lack of reliable sources. Sanglahi86 (talk) 13:23, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete no reliable ref hits on GSearch, GNews and GNews Archives. Alternatively, redirect to General_Santos#Education per WP:ATD. --Lenticel (talk) 11:39, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
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Benazir Bhutto Shaheed University of Technology and Skill Development
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Lacks sig/in-depth coverage so, fails WP:GNG. I don't see it passing WP:ORG either. —Saqib (talk I contribs) 09:21, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep - appears notable, see Jang, Urdu Point, Dawn, [9], Business Recorder, Urdu Point, Daily Outcome, Dunya, Jang, etc. Again, I'd like to stress that the nominator posted 7 AfD nominations with identical rationales with 2 minutes, no indication of any real WP:BEFORE being performed. --Soman (talk) 12:53, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment: Does any law from the government or state say it's a public university? Charlie (talk) 04:41, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- CharlieMehta, This is what HEC says
HEC NOC granted provisionally for 6 months upto June, 2017
. —Saqib (talk I contribs) 08:31, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- CharlieMehta, This is what HEC says
G.T. (Ellen Yeung) College
- G.T. (Ellen Yeung) College (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails GNG and NORG. Sources in article and found in BEFORE are listings, primary, name mentions, routine mill news, nothing that meets WP:SIRS, addressing the subject directly and indepth // Timothy :: talk 02:12, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources. The subject passes Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies)#Schools, which says:
SourcesAll universities, colleges and schools, including high schools, middle schools, primary (elementary) schools, and schools that only provide a support to mainstream education must either satisfy the notability guidelines for organizations, the general notability guideline, or both. For-profit educational organizations and institutions are considered commercial organizations and must satisfy those criteria. (See also WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES)
- Lam, Yim-hung 林艷虹 (2022-11-24). "優才(楊殷有娣)書院 特色課程培育多元人才" [G.T. (Ellen Yeung) College's special courses cultivate diverse talents]. Hong Kong Economic Journal (in Chinese). Archived from the original on 2024-05-15. Retrieved 2024-05-15.
The article notes: "優才(楊殷有娣)書院(下稱優才)為直資一條龍學校,小學初小部(小一至小三)位於旺角校舍,高小部(小四至小六)及中學部(中一至中六)則設於將軍澳校舍。 ... 值得一提的是,優才以推動資優教育見稱,校名英文縮寫G.T.,G代表Gifted,即與生俱來的天賦;T是Talent,表示每一個小朋友都有獨特才華,因此提供多元特色課程來培育孩子。"
From Google Translate: "G.T. (Ellen Yeung) College (hereinafter referred to as G.T.) is a one-stop school under the Direct Subsidy Scheme. The lower primary section (Primary 1 to Primary 3) is located in the Mong Kok campus, the upper primary section (Primary 4 to Primary 6) and the secondary section (Secondary 1 to 6 ) is located at the Tseung Kwan O campus. ... It is worth mentioning that Youcai is well-known for promoting gifted education. The English abbreviation of the school name is G.T., G stands for Gifted, which is innate talent; T stands for Talent, which means that every child has unique talents, so it provides diverse Special courses to nurture children."
- Hui, Lok-hang 許珞珩; Cheung, Wai-ting 張瑋婷 (2022-10-24). "升小備戰|直資優才(楊殷有娣)書院小學部 5層架構推動資優教育" [Preparing for primary school entrance|Directly gifted G.T. (Ellen Yeung) College 5-tier structure promotes gifted education] (in Chinese). HK01. Archived from the original on 2024-05-15. Retrieved 2024-05-15.
The article notes: "優才(楊殷有娣)書院小學部共有兩個校舍,小一至小三的初小部校舍位於旺角洗衣街,高小與中學部則共用將軍澳調景嶺嶺光街校舍。學校由天才教育協會會長李業富教授於1996年創辦,多年來均實行小班教學及分組學習形式,老師會按學生的能力及長處分成小組,每班6組、每組約4人,不同科目也採用此形式上課。"
From Google Translate: "The primary school of G.T. (Ellen Yeung) College has two school buildings. The junior school building for primary one to primary three is located on Sai Yee Street, Mong Kok. The upper primary school and the secondary school share the Ling Kwong Street school building, Tiu Keng Leng, Tseung Kwan O. The school was founded in 1996 by Professor Li Yipfu, President of the Gifted Education Association. For many years, it has implemented small class teaching and group learning. Teachers will divide students into groups according to their abilities and strengths. Each class has 6 groups with about 4 people in each group. Different subjects are also included in the school. Take this class."
- Hui, Melody (2023-05-09). "優才小學5.13開始報名 校長分享3大面試貼士 小朋友有一個特質最重要" [G.T. Primary School starts registration on May 13. The principal shares 3 interview tips. There is one trait that is most important for children.]. Sunday Kiss (in Chinese). New Media Group . Archived from the original on 2024-05-15. Retrieved 2024-05-15.
The article notes: "直資一條龍小學優才(楊殷有娣)書院小學部每年吸引超過3,000人報讀小一,學校推行獨特的教學模式,及深受家長喜歡小班教學,以每級5班、每班不超過26人,每年提供約130個小一學位,平均27人爭1學位,競爭非常激烈。本周六(13日)為2024/25年度小一報名日期,陳偉傑校長回覆記者查詢時,分享學校的教學特式、面試貼士及模式。優才最吸引家長的其中一個原因是一條龍學校,逾九成學生直升中一,而中學部同時開辦中學文憑試(DSE)及國際預科文憑(IB)雙軌課程,小學學生在無需面對升中選校的壓力下,可充分享受校園學習生活。"
From Google Translate: "The primary section of the DSS one-stop primary school Youcai (Yang Yin Youdi) College attracts more than 3,000 students to apply for primary one every year. The school implements a unique teaching model and is well received by parents for its small class teaching. There are 5 classes per level and no more than 26 students per class. There are about 130 primary one places available every year, and an average of 27 people compete for one place. The competition is very fierce. This Saturday (13th) is the registration date for Primary One students in 2024/25. When responding to reporters’ inquiries, Principal Chen Weijie shared the school’s teaching style, interview tips and models. One of the reasons why Youcai is most attractive to parents is that it is a one-stop school, with more than 90% of students going directly to Form 1. The secondary school also offers dual-track courses of Diploma of Secondary Education (DSE) and International Baccalaureate Diploma (IB), so primary school students do not have to face Under the pressure of choosing a school for high school, you can fully enjoy campus study life."
- Chan, Yik-chiu 陳奕釗. "香港學校|優才(楊殷有娣)書院壓縮正統課程 特色教學培育優秀學生" [Hong Kong School|G.T. (Ellen Yeung) College compresses the orthodox curriculum and cultivates outstanding students with unique teaching]. am730 (in Chinese). Archived from the original on 2024-05-15. Retrieved 2024-05-15.
The article notes: "優才(楊殷有娣)書院特別注重兩文三語、語文能力及溝通技巧。學校不單實行普教中,更讓學生學習法文、韓文、日文、意大利文及西班牙文等第三語言。... 成績方面,學校前年出了3位IB狀元,在全球3,500所IB高中學校中名列第11,香港則排名第3。2023年該校學生IB成績亦不俗:有一個45分狀元、兩個44分榜眼。而本屆69位畢業生中,該校有86%同學在Jupas獲得好成績,能入讀心儀大學及課程,"
From Google Translate: "G.T. (Ellen Yeung) College pays special attention to biliteracy, trilingualism, language proficiency and communication skills. The school not only provides general education, but also allows students to learn third languages such as French, Korean, Japanese, Italian and Spanish. ... In terms of results, the school produced three IB top scorers the year before last, ranking 11th among 3,500 IB high schools in the world, and Hong Kong ranked third. The IB results of the school's students in 2023 are also good: there is one top scorer with a score of 45, two top scorers Second place with 44 points. Among the 69 graduates this year, 86% of the school’s students obtained good results in Jupas and were able to enter the university and course of their choice."
- "Direct Subsidy Scheme Schools". South China Morning Post. 2009-06-13. Archived from the original on 2024-05-15. Retrieved 2024-05-15.
The article notes: "Founded in 1997 as a private school and turned DSS in 2002. Merged with Chi Kit School in 2004. Multiple intelligence approach emphasising creativity, self-esteem and social responsibility. Class size: Primary 24; Secondary 24-26. School-based and activity-based curriculum. Over 50 talent classes, run by part-time tutors in small groups, offered twice a week as part of the curriculum. Regular visits to museums and other places of interest. Enhancement for gifted children. Secondary curriculum will lead to HKCEE, HKALE, and other public benchmark tests, IB Diploma may be offered in 2009. Medium of instruction: Primary: Cantonese, with English taught by native speakers. Secondary: English, except Chinese and Chinese history."
- Lam, Yim-hung 林艷虹 (2022-11-24). "優才(楊殷有娣)書院 特色課程培育多元人才" [G.T. (Ellen Yeung) College's special courses cultivate diverse talents]. Hong Kong Economic Journal (in Chinese). Archived from the original on 2024-05-15. Retrieved 2024-05-15.
- Reply, promo, interviews, all obviously based on the same info/source, nothing above show WP:SIRS or notability, they just show marketing at work. Nothing wrong with promotion, but it doesn't equal notability. // Timothy :: talk 12:29, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- I did not find any evidence of the sources being "based on the same info/source" since they discuss different aspects of the school. WP:SIRS is part of Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies). According to Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies)#Schools, a non-profit educational institution like G.T. (Ellen Yeung) College needs to meet only Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline, which this school does. Cunard (talk) 08:33, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
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Hong Kong Chinese Christian Union Logos Academy
- Hong Kong Chinese Christian Union Logos Academy (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails GNG and NORG. Sources in article and found in BEFORE are listings, name mentions, routine mill news, nothing that meets WP:SIRS, addressing the subject directly and indepth // Timothy :: talk 02:13, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep and rename to Hong Kong Chinese Christian Churches Union Logos Academy per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources. The subject passes Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies)#Schools, which says:
SourcesAll universities, colleges and schools, including high schools, middle schools, primary (elementary) schools, and schools that only provide a support to mainstream education must either satisfy the notability guidelines for organizations, the general notability guideline, or both. For-profit educational organizations and institutions are considered commercial organizations and must satisfy those criteria. (See also WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES)
- Lin, Zhong 林钟; Deng, Shaobing 邓少冰 (2014). "走进香港真道书院小学" [Visit Hong Kong Chinese Christian Churches Union Logos Academy]. 七彩语文(习作) [Colourful Language (Exercises)] (in Chinese). No. 10. East China Normal University. ISSN 1673-4998. Retrieved 2024-05-15 – via CQVIP .
Colourful Language (Exercises) is a magazine published by the Chinese Education Research Center of East China Normal University. According to this description from Google Translate, "Colourful Language (Exercises) was officially launched in January 2015, with academic guidance provided by the Chinese Education Research Center of East China Normal University. The magazine is closely linked to the reform of basic education curriculum and strives to provide suitable resources and platforms for middle school Chinese teachers to meet the needs of teachers for daily teaching and improvement of professional qualities."
The abstract notes: "本期的"大眼睛看世界",小编将和大家一起走进香港一所名校——香港华人基督教联会真道书院。真道书院位于香港调景岭湾畔,学校分小学和中学部,与其他学校不同,真道书院学生没有统一的校服。小学部学生在中文课上使用的是内地出版的小学语文课本,他们觉得教材文字优美,内容包含了古今中外的文化特色,和浓厚的道德教育元素,很符合小学语文教育的需要。"
From Google Translate: "In this issue of "Seeing the World with Big Eyes", the editor will go with you to a famous school in Hong Kong Chinese Christian Churches Union Logos Academy. Union Logos Academy is located on the shores of Tiu Keng Ling Bay in Hong Kong. The school is divided into primary and secondary schools. Unlike other schools, students at Union Logos Academy do not have uniforms. Students in the primary school use primary school Chinese textbooks published in the Mainland in their Chinese classes. They feel that the textbooks are beautifully written, contain cultural characteristics of ancient and modern times, Chinese and foreign cultures, and have strong moral education elements, which are in line with the needs of primary school Chinese education. ... In the first two years of elementary school, Union Logos Academy expects students to lay a solid foundation of knowledge and learn self-care, self-study and self-reflection skills. The school focuses on constructing a school-based curriculum and uses some Chinese and art textbooks from the Mainland."
- Lok, Irene (2015-05-11). "將軍澳一條龍直資 香港華人基督教聯會真道書院 中小學" [Tseung Kwan O One-stop Direct Subsidy Scheme. Hong Kong Chinese Christian Churches Union Logos Academy. Primary and Secondary Schools]. Sunday Kiss (in Chinese). New Media Group . Archived from the original on 2024-05-24. Retrieved 2024-05-15.
Lok, Irene (2015-05-11). "將軍澳一條龍直資 香港華人基督教聯會真道書院 中小學" [Tseung Kwan O One-stop Direct Subsidy Scheme. Hong Kong Chinese Christian Churches Union Logos Academy. Primary and Secondary Schools]. Sunday Kiss (in Chinese). New Media Group . Archived from the original on 2024-05-15. Retrieved 2024-05-15.The article notes: "2002年創校的真道年資較其他直資學校淺,被定為新派直資學校,卻是全港唯一採用「十一年一貫」課程模式的學校,分兩年基礎階段、五年拓展階段及四年通達階段,以十一年完成小學及中學課程。 ... 在小學首兩年基礎階段,真道期望學生打穩知識基礎,學好自理、自學及自省能力。學校着力建構校本課程,採用部分內地中文及美術科教材"
From Google Translate: "Founded in 2002, Union Logos Academy has a younger school years than other DSS schools and is designated as a new DSS school. However, it is the only school in Hong Kong that adopts the "11-year consistent" curriculum model, which is divided into two years of basic stage and five years of expansion stage. and the four-year mastery stage, which takes eleven years to complete the primary and secondary school courses. ... In the first two years of elementary school, Union Logos Academy expects students to lay a solid foundation of knowledge and learn self-care, self-study and self-reflection skills. The school focuses on constructing school-based curriculum and adopts some mainland Chinese and art textbooks."
- A, Yin 阿言 (2024-02-01). "專訪|香港華人基督教聯會真道書院 多元體驗式學習培育未來領袖" [Exclusive Interview|Hong Kong Chinese Christian Churches Union Logos Academy's diversified experiential learning cultivates future leaders] (in Chinese). HK01. Archived from the original on 2024-05-15. Retrieved 2024-05-15.
The article notes: "學校著重學生全方位發展,學生從小學便培育體、美特質,提供多項興趣班予學生選擇,如跳繩、跆拳道、琵琶及烏克麗麗等。另外,為培養學生閱讀習慣,自小學階段設有閱讀時間,同學在操場集合一同閱讀,從小學階段養成自己探索知識的習慣。中學則設有 DEAR Time(Drop Everything And Read),讓學生暫時放下功課及其他事務,專心閱讀。學校更會舉辦不同活動,如閱讀馬拉松、圖書日、書展等讓同學接觸不同類型的書籍,鼓勵學生閱讀。"
From Google Translate: "The school focuses on the all-round development of students. Students develop physical and aesthetic qualities from elementary school, and provides students with a variety of interest classes to choose from, such as rope skipping, taekwondo, pipa and ukulele. In addition, in order to cultivate students' reading habits, reading time is set up from the primary school level. Students gather in the playground to read together, and develop the habit of exploring knowledge by themselves from the primary school level. Middle schools have DEAR Time (Drop Everything And Read), which allows students to temporarily put aside their homework and other matters and concentrate on reading. The school also organizes different activities, such as reading marathons, book days, book fairs, etc., to expose students to different types of books and encourage students to read."
- Wong, Ming-fong 王明芳 (2021-06-02). "【直資中學】一條龍11年完成小學中學課程 真道書院雙軌制曾出產IB狀元" [[Direct Subsidy Scheme Secondary School] One-stop primary school and middle school courses completed in 11 years. Union Logos Academy’s dual-track system has produced IB top scorers]. Hong Kong Economic Times (in Chinese). Archived from the original on 2024-05-15. Retrieved 2024-05-15.
The article notes: "位於將軍澳的香港華人基督教聯會真道書院屬中小學直資一條龍學校,也是全港唯一以11年完成小學及中學課程的學校。真道書院既提供中學文憑試課程(DSE),同時開辦國際文憑課程(IB),學生在公開試成績優異,過去亦曾誕生IB狀元。"
From Google Translate: "The Hong Kong Chinese Christian Churches Union Logos Academy in Tseung Kwan O is a one-stop school under direct subsidy for primary and secondary schools. It is also the only school in Hong Kong that completes primary and secondary school courses in 11 years. Union Logos Academy not only provides the Diploma of Secondary Education Examination (DSE) course, but also offers the International Baccalaureate Diploma (IB) course. Students have achieved excellent results in public examinations, and IB top scorers have also been born in the past."
- Wong, Ming-fong 王明芳 (2023-10-10). "直私面試丨直資真道書院2023年小一面試題目 老師話+傳豆袋考小朋友反應" [Direct Private Interview丨Direct Subscription Union Logos Academy Primary One Interview Questions 2023 Teacher’s Words + Bean Bag Test Children's Responses]. Hong Kong Economic Times (in Chinese). Archived from the original on 2024-05-24. Retrieved 2024-05-15.
Wong, Ming-fong 王明芳 (2023-10-10). "直私面試丨直資真道書院2023年小一面試題目 老師話+傳豆袋考小朋友反應" [Direct Private Interview丨Direct Subscription Union Logos Academy Primary One Interview Questions 2023 Teacher’s Words + Bean Bag Test Children's Responses]. Hong Kong Economic Times (in Chinese). Archived from the original on 2024-05-15. Retrieved 2024-05-15.The article notes: "位於將軍澳區直資學校的香港華人基督教聯會真道書院,即提供本地文憑試(DSE)課程,同時開辦國際文憑(IB)課程,多年來深受家長歡迎。真道書院小一面試有兩輪,第一輪是小朋友自行面試,若成功通過會進入第二輪面試,家長也會獲邀出席,TOPick邀請了為女兒報考7間直私小學的港媽梁太,拆解真道書院小一面試第一階段考核的内容。"
From Google Translate: "The Hong Kong Chinese Christian Churches Union Logos Academy, located in the direct subsidy school in Tseung Kwan O District, provides local Diploma Examination (DSE) courses and also offers International Baccalaureate (IB) courses. It has been popular among parents for many years. There are two rounds of primary one interviews at Union Logos Academy. The first round is for children to interview on their own. If they successfully pass, they will enter the second round of interviews. Parents will also be invited to attend. TOPick invited Mrs. Leung, a mother from Hong Kong who applied for her daughter to seven direct private primary schools to dismante the contents of the first stage of the primary school interview at Union Logos Academy."
- Lin, Zhong 林钟; Deng, Shaobing 邓少冰 (2014). "走进香港真道书院小学" [Visit Hong Kong Chinese Christian Churches Union Logos Academy]. 七彩语文(习作) [Colourful Language (Exercises)] (in Chinese). No. 10. East China Normal University. ISSN 1673-4998. Retrieved 2024-05-15 – via CQVIP .
- The article should be renamed to Hong Kong Chinese Christian Churches Union Logos Academy (add the word "Churches" after "Christian" and before "Union") to match the name on the website. Cunard (talk) 09:38, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- Reply, promo, interviews, all obviously based on the same info/source, nothing above show WP:SIRS or notability, they just show marketing at work. Nothing wrong with promotion, but it doesn't equal notability. // Timothy :: talk 12:24, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- I did not find any evidence of the sources being "based on the same info/source" since they discuss different aspects of the school. WP:SIRS is part of Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies). According to Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies)#Schools, a non-profit educational institution like Hong Kong Chinese Christian Churches Union Logos Academy needs to meet only Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline, which this school does. Cunard (talk) 08:34, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
- Comment These sources aren't doing what they're purported to be. Source 1 appears to be the equivalent of a WP:TRADES publication. Sources 2, 4 and 5 are brief listings of multiple school options, no significant coverage. (Moreover, 4 and 5 are on the Hong Kong Economic Times' "TOPick" subsite, which appears to be a advertorial Daily Mail-style infotainment site, not a reliable source.) Source 3 is described as an "interview," which is a primary source and thus not eligible to validate notability. Dclemens1971 (talk) 22:27, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
- The first source, a magazine published by the Chinese Education Research Center of East China Normal University, is not equivalent to a WP:TRADES publication. It is an academic magazine, not a trade magazine. For the second source, I linked to the wrong article because when scrolling to the bottom of the article, the website changes the URL to the next article. I've fixed the link. The incorrect link did not mention the school. The updated link is a full article about the school.
The third source contains sufficient non-interview content to amount to significant coverage. The fourth source discusses other schools but provides significant coverage of this school. Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline says, "Significant coverage is more than a trivial mention, but it does not need to be the main topic of the source material."
For the fifth source, I linked to the wrong article for the same reason discussed above. I've fixed the link. The fifth article is about the school's interview process and is significant coverage.
I consider TOPick to be a reliable source. According to this information from a Telum panel discussion with the Hong Kong Economic Times Group about TOPick:
The publication has journalists, editors, and an independent editorial team. It is not an "advertorial" site. It aims to inform its readers about parenting and education topics. Cunard (talk) 08:51, 24 May 2024 (UTC)Editorial team
Around 30 journalists and editors, each contributing five stories daily.
An independent editorial and video team oversees each sector.
Editorial focus
80 per cent on parenting and health, 20 per cent on entertainment, celebrity and lifestyle.
Parenting: general parenting news and education information through a section called 「Band 1 學堂」, which features information on kindergarten, primary and secondary school, elite education and overseas study.
- The first source, a magazine published by the Chinese Education Research Center of East China Normal University, is not equivalent to a WP:TRADES publication. It is an academic magazine, not a trade magazine. For the second source, I linked to the wrong article because when scrolling to the bottom of the article, the website changes the URL to the next article. I've fixed the link. The incorrect link did not mention the school. The updated link is a full article about the school.
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 05:03, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. See my comments on the sources above; I do not believe they are sufficiently reliable nor offer enough significant coverage to meet GNG or NORG. Dclemens1971 (talk) 22:28, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
- All five sources provide significant coverage. For two of the sources, I linked to the wrong pages owing to how the website changes the URL to the next article when scrolling to the bottom of the current article. I've fixed the links. Cunard (talk) 08:51, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
- I reviewed the new links and stand by my assessment. Dclemens1971 (talk) 13:34, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
- All five sources provide significant coverage. For two of the sources, I linked to the wrong pages owing to how the website changes the URL to the next article when scrolling to the bottom of the current article. I've fixed the links. Cunard (talk) 08:51, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
- Delete as per Dclemens1971 assessment. I don't believe the additional sources found help with notability. LibStar (talk) 03:06, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: I am surprised that reliable sources from a Chinese academic journal and Hong Kong newspapers are considered insufficient to establish notability. Sources likely these previously have been sufficient to establish notability for schools, which must meet only Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline and not Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies)#Primary criteria, which "establishes generally higher requirements for sources that are used to establish notability than for sources that are allowed as acceptable references within an article".
An alternative to deletion is to merge to Tiu Keng Leng#Education, where this school is located. School articles should be merged, not deleted, when there is a suitable alternative to deletion.
A redirect with the history preserved under the redirect will allow editors to selectively merge any content that can be reliably sourced to the target article. A redirect with the history preserved under the redirect will allow the redirect to be undone if significant coverage in reliable sources is found in the future.
Cunard (talk) 03:13, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- So are you now !voting for merge not keep? LibStar (talk) 03:33, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- My first choice is a keep. My second choice is a merge if consensus is against a standalone article. The five sources I've listed were found through a Google search. Since editors consider them insufficient to establish notability, I will do a more exhaustive search for print sources. These are sources that cannot be found in a Google search. It takes a lot more time to do this exhaustive search, so I usually do the Google search approach first.
The first source I found casts an unflattering light on the school as it says that 20% of the teachers resigned owing to being overworked. Here is the source:
- "真道書院9教師呈辭" [9 teachers from Union Logos Academy resign]. The Sun (in Chinese). 2005-08-04. p. A12.
The article notes: "在電視節目《殘酷一叮》三連霸的「莫生」莫凱謙現正就讀的香港華人基督教聯會真道書院,今年將有五分一教師共九人離職,有教師指離職原因是因為工作辛苦。"
From Google Translate: "One-fifth of the teachers from Hong Kong Chinese Christian Churches Union Logos Academy, where Mok Kai-him, who won three consecutive championships in the TV program "Cruel One", is currently studying, will resign this year. Some teachers said that the reason for resigning was because of the hard work."
The article notes: "○二年創校的真道書院是一間直資一條龍學校,中小學共用約五十名教師,當中有近兩成共九名教師,在今學年完結後離任。"
From Google Translate: "Founded in 2002, Union Logos Academy is a direct subsidy one-stop school with a total of about 50 teachers in primary and secondary schools. Among them, nearly 20%, a total of nine teachers, resigned after the end of this school year."
- "真道書院9教師呈辭" [9 teachers from Union Logos Academy resign]. The Sun (in Chinese). 2005-08-04. p. A12.
- My first choice is a keep. My second choice is a merge if consensus is against a standalone article. The five sources I've listed were found through a Google search. Since editors consider them insufficient to establish notability, I will do a more exhaustive search for print sources. These are sources that cannot be found in a Google search. It takes a lot more time to do this exhaustive search, so I usually do the Google search approach first.
- So are you now !voting for merge not keep? LibStar (talk) 03:33, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: I explained above why I didn't search for these sources earlier. I have found numerous additional sources about the school. I omitted the numerous positive articles and have focused on the negative articles since there were concerns earlier about the sources being "marketing" or "promotion". I think these sources should be sufficient to establish notability. If they are not, I could continue my search for sources since these are only some of the hundreds of results about the school that I found. Here are the additional sources.
- The Sun article about 20% of the school's teachers resigning for being overworked 2005
- Articles about the school's primary school students being disallowed in 2008 from participating in a competition because of how its academic system is different from other schools':
Sources
- Chen, Qiuxia 陳秋霞 (2008-02-25). "真道小六生列學生參賽 學體會評級方式惹非議" [Hong Kong Chinese Christian Churches Union Logos Academy Primary 6 students participate in the competition, and the learning experience grading method has attracted criticism]. Ta Kung Pao (in Chinese). p. A9.
The article notes: "西貢區的香港華人基督教聯會真道學院第六年辦學,一直採用「兩年基礎階段+五年拓展階段+四年通達階段」的十一年中小學一條龍教學制度,不同於現行「六年小學+五年中學”十一年中小學教育。若依年齡劃分,現時真道二百二十一位就讀「拓階四」的學生是傳統的「小六生」,不過該階段學生接受政府中學資助,○七/○八年中學概覽內也劃分他們為「中一生」。"
From Google Translate: "The Hong Kong Chinese Christian Council Zhendao College in Sai Kung District is in its sixth year of operation. It has been using an eleven-year one-stop teaching system for primary and secondary schools of "two years of basic stage + five years of expansion stage + four years of mastery stage", which is different from the current "six-year" "Primary school + five years of secondary school" eleven years of primary and secondary education. If divided by age, the current 221 students of Zhendao who are studying in "Top Level 4" are traditional "Primary 6 students". However, students at this stage receive government secondary school subsidies and are also classified in the 2007/08 Secondary School Profile. They are "middle life"."
- "真道「小學生」被禁參賽風波" [Controversy over Logos Academy's "primary school students" being banned from participating in the competition]. Sing Tao Daily (in Chinese). 2008-02-26. p. F1.
The article notes: "以十一年中小學學制為賣點的將軍澳香港華人基督教聯會真道書院,想不到其與別不同的學制,引起一場小學生停賽風波。第六年在該校就讀的拓展階段四年級(DS4)學生,尷尬地處於中小學的中間點,學界體育聯會西貢區小學分會認為,DS4學生既接受中學資助,應被界定為中學生,故此禁止參加本學年剩餘的小學際與區際比賽。"
From Google Translate: "Hong Kong Chinese Christian Churches Union Logos Academy in Tseung Kwan O, which sells its eleven-year primary and secondary education system, unexpectedly caused a controversy among primary school students due to its different academic system. The expansion stage fourth grade (DS4) students who study in the school for the sixth year are awkwardly in the middle point between primary and secondary schools. The Sai Kung District Primary School Branch of the School Sports Federation believes that DS4 students should be defined as secondary school students since they receive secondary school subsidies. They are prohibited from participating in inter-elementary and inter-district competitions for the remainder of the school year."
- "直資校參加學界賽腰斬" [DSS schools lose half of their participation in school competition]. Oriental Daily (in Chinese). 2008-02-25. p. A20.
The article notes: "本港學制日益多元化,不再局限於傳統中小學之分,惟學界體育比賽制度僵化,繼續以中小學劃分,令到一間直資名校的近百名十一歲學生,因其所讀的課程等同於中學課程,被拒與傳統學制同樣十一歲的小六學生比賽,學生參賽資格即時被腰斬,學子無辜,慘成官僚制度下,政治鬥爭的犧牲品。"
From Google Translate: "Hong Kong’s academic system is increasingly diversified and is no longer limited to traditional primary and secondary schools. However, the school sports competition system is rigid and continues to be divided into primary and secondary schools. This has caused nearly a hundred 11-year-old students from a prestigious direct subsidy school to be divided. The courses he studied were equivalent to middle school courses, and he was refused to compete with the 11-year-old Primary 6 students in the traditional school system. The student's qualifications were immediately cut in half. The innocent student became a victim of political struggles under the bureaucracy."
- Chen, Qiuxia 陳秋霞 (2008-02-25). "真道小六生列學生參賽 學體會評級方式惹非議" [Hong Kong Chinese Christian Churches Union Logos Academy Primary 6 students participate in the competition, and the learning experience grading method has attracted criticism]. Ta Kung Pao (in Chinese). p. A9.
- The school was harshly criticised in 2010 by Hong Kong's Audit Commission for administrative misconduct regarding property purchases and tuition fees. This led to hearings by the Legislative Council Accounts Committee. It led to at least one hundred articles covering the fallout which spanned at least several months. Here are a few of those sources:
Sources
- "德信售校章利潤1.5倍 教局六方面跟進監察直資校" [Dexin's profit from selling school seals is 1.5 times. Education Bureau follows up on six aspects to monitor DSS schools]. Ta Kung Pao (in Chinese). 2010-12-21. p. A7.
The article notes: "立法會帳目委員會昨天就直資學校的監管舉行最後一場聆訊,重點討論三所直資學校的違規行徑,包括運用七千萬元投資的德望學校、用一千萬元購買三個該物業的香港華人基督教聯會真道書院,"
From Google Translate: "The Legislative Council Accounts Committee held the last hearing on the supervision of DSS schools yesterday, focusing on the irregularities of three DSS schools, including the Good Hope School, which used HK$70 million of investment, the Hong Kong Chinese Christian Churches Union Logos Academy, which used HK$10 million to purchase three properties ..."
The article notes: "議員何秀蘭質疑,真道書院有否將盈餘儲備作投資或購買物業,減少學校現金流,以用作申請加學費理由。教育局首席助理秘書長李煜輝表示,該校○八╱○九及○九╱一○兩學年均有加費,但局方發現於○九年八月三十一日的現金流有七千多萬元,連同物業和基金股票等,已超過局方規定的儲備上限,由於盈餘過高,局方已拒絕其一○╱一一學年加學費的申請。局方稱,核准學校加費不單是考慮學校現金流,亦有其他因素。局長孫明揚補充,校方加費須得到家長同意,校方亦要遞交發展計劃,由局方釐定學校是否可以存有大量盈餘。"
From Google Translate: "Councillor Cyd Ho questioned whether Logos Academy had used its surplus reserves for investment or property purchases to reduce the school’s cash flow, which could be used as a reason to apply for a tuition increase. Li Yuhui, Chief Assistant Secretary of the Education Bureau, said that the school had increased fees in both the 2008/2009 and 2009/2010 academic years, but the bureau found that the cash flow on August 31, 2009 was more than 70 million yuan, together with properties and fund stocks, which exceeded the reserve limit stipulated by the bureau. Due to the excessive surplus, the bureau has rejected its application for a tuition increase in the 2010/2011 academic year. The bureau said that approving a school to increase fees is not only based on the school's cash flow, but also on other factors. Secretary Sun Mingyang added that the school must obtain the consent of parents to increase fees, and the school must also submit a development plan, and the bureau will determine whether the school can have a large surplus."
- "真道放寬學費減免收入限制" [Logos Academy relaxes income limit for tuition exemption]. Ming Pao (in Chinese). 2010-12-20. p. A12.
The article notes: "上月審計報告重點審查的香港華人基督教聯會真道書院,被揭發擁有1900 萬盈餘但學費減免條件嚴苛,又以個人名義購置單位作教師宿舍。真道學院近日已作多方改善,昨日3 名校董連同校長,與400 名家長會面,提出5項措施回應,包括放寬申請家庭的學費減免收入限制,鼓勵清貧學生報讀。"
From Google Translate: "The Hong Kong Chinese Christian Churches Union Logos Academy, which was the focus of last month’s audit report, was revealed to have a surplus of HK$19 million but had strict conditions for tuition exemptions and purchased units in individual names as teachers’ dormitories. Logos Academy has made many improvements in recent days. Yesterday, three school directors and the principal met with 400 parents and proposed five measures in response, including relaxing the income limit for tuition exemptions for applying families and encouraging poor students to apply."
- "真道書院開家長會 跟進審計報告指控" [Logos Academy held a parent meeting to follow up on the accusations in the audit report]. Wen Wei Po (in Chinese). 2010-12-20. p. A26.
The article notes: "遭審計報告羅列多宗「罪行」的香港華人基督教聯會真道書院,昨天下午舉行家長會。該校多名校董出席,與約400名家長會面。"
From Google Translate: "The Hong Kong Chinese Christian Churches Union Logos Academy, which was hit with numerous “crimes” in the audit report, held a parents’ meeting yesterday afternoon. Many school directors attended and met with about 400 parents."
- "真道書院聘會計師核賬" [Logos Academy hires accountants to audit accounts]. Apple Daily (in Chinese). 2010-12-20. p. A14.
The article notes: "於直資審計風暴中屢被批評多項行政失當的香港華人基督教聯會真道書院,昨日再召開家長會,安排校董會向家長講解事件最新進展。校監陸幸泉提出多項措施「補鑊」,包括聘請羅兵咸會計師重新檢視學校帳目、釐定學校採購政策競價投標準則等,以個人名義購買的一間村屋及居屋亦將作物業轉名事宜。"
From Google Translate: "Hong Kong Chinese Christian Churches Union Logos Academy, which has been repeatedly criticised for multiple administrative misconducts during the direct subsidy audit storm, held another parent meeting yesterday and arranged for the school board to explain the latest developments of the incident to parents. School Superintendent Luk Xingquan proposed a number of measures to "make up for the wok", including hiring accountants Luo Bingham to re-examine the school's accounts, determining the school's procurement policy and bidding criteria, etc."
- "真道近2000萬助學金未批出 教局反對用作添設備 必要時接管學校" [Logos Academy's nearly 20 million scholarships have not been approved. The Education Bureau objects to using them to add equipment and take over the school if necessary.]. Ming Pao (in Chinese). 2010-12-01. p. A4.
The article notes: "於直資學校「審計風暴」中被重點查帳的香港華人基督教聯會真道書院,已被教育局書面警告須及時糾正違規買物業及助學金儲備使用率低等問題。... 接近政府的消息稱,教育局認為學費減免是為有經濟需要的學生而設,不認同用作添置設備;局方會留意校方最終如何落實改善違規工作,若成效不彰,便會由教育局常任秘書長派員進駐學校管理委員會接手校政。"
From Google Translate: "Hong Kong Chinese Christian Churches Union Logos Academy, which was the focus of audits in the "audit storm" of direct subsidy school schools, has been given a written warning by the Education Bureau to promptly correct problems such as illegal property purchases and low utilisation of bursary reserves. ... Sources close to the government said that the Education Bureau believes that the tuition fee reduction is for students with financial needs and does not agree that it will be used to purchase equipment. The Bureau will pay attention to how the school ultimately implements the improvement of violations. If the results are not effective, the Education Bureau's permanent secretary-general will dispatch personnel to the school management committee to take over school administration."
- Ni, Qingjiang 倪清江; Xia, Zhili 夏志禮 (2010-11-27). "最後通牒即將到期校監校長拒轉業權 教局擬進駐真道校董會" [The ultimatum is about to expire. The school supervisor and principal refuse to transfer ownership. The Education Bureau plans to join the Logos Academy Board of Directors.]. Apple Daily (in Chinese). p. A5.
The article notes: "被審計署揭23宗罪的香港華人基督教聯會真道書院,挪用1,000萬元非政府資金購置3項物業,業權卻是校監和校長。教育局原來早已知悉,多番促請他們將業權轉回校方,但不獲理會,早前發出最後通牒,日內到期。若真道繼續當教育局無到,局方將派人進駐該校校董會,情形有如去年撤銷辦學權的臻美黃幹亨小學暨國中學校的翻版。"
From Google Translate: "Hong Kong Chinese Christian Churches Union Logos Academy, which was exposed by the Audit Office for 23 crimes, misappropriated HK$10 million of non-governmental funds to purchase three properties, but the ownership was owned by the school supervisor and principal. It turned out that the Education Bureau had known about it for a long time and had repeatedly urged them to transfer the ownership back to the school, but was ignored. It had earlier issued an ultimatum that would expire within a few days. If Logos Academy continues to be in charge of the Education Bureau and there is no one, the Bureau will send people to the school board of directors, and the situation will be a replica of the Zhenmei Huangqianheng Primary School and Junior High School that revoked its schooling rights last year."
- "德信售校章利潤1.5倍 教局六方面跟進監察直資校" [Dexin's profit from selling school seals is 1.5 times. Education Bureau follows up on six aspects to monitor DSS schools]. Ta Kung Pao (in Chinese). 2010-12-21. p. A7.
- "自辦刊物" [Self-organised publications]. Sing Tao Daily (in Chinese). 2010-07-06. p. E6.
The column says at the bottom that it was written by the Sing Tao Daily editor-in-chief.
The column notes: "位於將軍澳的香港華人基督教聯會真道書院,是近年區內成立的直資中學,該校就辦了一本名為《真道人》(見圖)的刊物,介紹學校的理念和發展,至今已經出版了兩期。 真道書院出版這本《真道人》,以一本機構刊物來說,可以說不簡單,新一期的內容除了由校長講解學校取得的國際認證AdvancED外,還有其他親子專題、閱讀版等,從內容、版面設計到紙質,都顯示投入了相當的資源。從刊物的製作班底看,除了校內老師班底,還有資深教育新聞從業員郭玉蘭參與,難怪專題報道形式和深度相當接近傳媒。"
From Google Translate: "The Hong Kong Chinese Christian Churches Union Logos Academy in Tseung Kwan O is a direct subsidy secondary school established in the district in recent years. The school has published a publication called "Logos People" (see picture) to introduce the school's philosophy and development. So far, it has two issues were published. Logos Academy publishes "Logos People", which is not simple for an institutional publication. In addition to the principal explaining the international certification AdvanceED obtained by the school, the new issue also includes other parent-child topics, reading editions, etc. From the content, layout design to paper quality, it shows that considerable resources have been invested. Judging from the publication's production team, in addition to the school's teacher team, Guo Yulan, a senior education news practitioner, is also involved. No wonder the format and depth of the special report are quite similar to those of the media."
- Keep The additional sources provided by Cunard are sufficient to meet NSCHOOL, in addition there is more coverage where the school involved in a scandal where a member of leadership made a controversial statement regarding the 2019 protests, example article: [10]. Jumpytoo Talk 09:43, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
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Hoërskool Noordheuwel
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Previously deleted at AfD in October 2023; insufficient improvement in sourcing to meet N:SCHOOL. Sources are to hyperlocal news sources that read like user-submitted or sponsored copy ("Die kersie op die koek: Hoërskool Noordheuwel is die TOP AKADEMIESE SKOOL in Gauteng-Wes en bekleë ook die nr 5 posisie in Gauteng waarop ons baie trots is"... "The icing on the cake: Noordheuwel High School is the TOP ACADEMIC SCHOOL in Gauteng West and also holds the No. 5 position in Gauteng, which we are very proud of.") or a news site comprising regional high school sport news, not clearing the bar for NORG or GNG. A BEFORE search turns up no significant coverage in independent sources. Dclemens1971 (talk) 16:56, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Schools and South Africa. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 18:49, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: Not eligible for Soft Deletion.
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