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Hi! There's a merger proposal for {{for}} and {{for2}}: Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2021 June 30#Template:For. I'm not invested in the outcome, but I believe it hinges on the big picture stuff, and I don't think anyone apart from you has worked on that. – Uanfala (talk) 01:57, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
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redirect hatnote bug
In that had three separate {{redirect}}
hatnotes, the third one did NOT redirect to the article and was not caught (Category:Articles with redirect hatnotes needing review). As an experiment, I deleted the first two hatnotes (which DO redirect to the article) and then the article was listed in the category. I've fixed this article by reworking the hatnotes. But there still appears to be an underlying bug that could be affecting other articles. It this enough for you to try to track it down? Thanks. MB 03:38, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
- I’ll take a proper look tomorrow morning. It "smells" like a static context error, or perhaps some quirk of
mw.title
objects that I’ve missed. {{Nihiltres |talk |edits}} 04:15, 8 August 2021 (UTC)- Just a reminder in case you have forgotten this. MB 15:21, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
- Looking at it again (I went over it silently earlier without finding any problem in the code) … I can't reproduce the bug. It appears that that third redirect still generates the Category:Articles with redirect hatnotes needing review tracking category, in previews at least. Could it have simply been category update lag? {{Nihiltres |talk |edits}} 16:49, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for looking into this. I've seen short category update lags before, but always less than a minute. Unless I was mistaken, I wouldn't have been looking at the category itself, but at the categories listed in the article. I don't see a problem now either, so I have no idea now if this was a real problem at the time or not. MB 18:25, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
- Looking at it again (I went over it silently earlier without finding any problem in the code) … I can't reproduce the bug. It appears that that third redirect still generates the Category:Articles with redirect hatnotes needing review tracking category, in previews at least. Could it have simply been category update lag? {{Nihiltres |talk |edits}} 16:49, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
- Just a reminder in case you have forgotten this. MB 15:21, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
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Possible hoax article
Hello, I believe the page Crocodile Society is a hoax. The only links I found via a Google search are Wikipedia and mirrors. Can anything be done about this possible hoax? 2600:1003:B8D8:F0F3:115:38F8:78A7:92E (talk) 04:14, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
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The Mute's Soliloquy ISBN
Thanks for the heads-up. I must have been careless when I was tidying up the references for the Japanese occupation of the Dutch East Indies page. Regards Davidelit (Talk) 03:53, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
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Missing redirect check
There are a number of redirect hatnotes for special symbols. For visual clarity, editors have used various special syntax to make them stand out. Position tolerance is the latest example. This causes the missing redirect check to fail. My work-around has been to just use {{hatnote}}
instead of {{redirect}}
. There are probably 10-15 that I have converted this way. Just checking if you concur this is reasonable. This is so infrequent that I highly doubt it makes any sense to handle this in the check itself. MB 17:18, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
- @MB: Hmm, that's an interesting special case, and the workaround is okay for now. It looks like it should work normally if we stripped off the (de-)italicization, and handling (de-)italicized cases seems like something to look into either way. I'll try to think a bit about how that might best be implemented, so that we don't need the workaround. {{Nihiltres |talk |edits}} 17:27, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
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Nomination for deletion of Template:Other MeSH codes
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Berries
Raspberries and strawberries are not berries, as bbq they have seeds on their exterior — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.29.231.31 (talk)
- Okay. The relevant articles already identify them as not botanical berries but merely aggregate fruit. Is there any reason you mentioned this to me? {{Nihiltres |talk |edits}} 19:56, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
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