Wikidata weekly summary #519
Administrators' newsletter – May 2022
News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2022).
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- Following an RfC, a change has been made to the administrators inactivity policy. Under the new policy, if an administrator has not made at least 100 edits over a period of 5 years they may be desysopped for inactivity.
- Following a discussion on the bureaucrat's noticeboard, a change has been made to the bureaucrats inactivity policy.
- The ability to undelete the associated talk page when undeleting a page has been added. This was the 11th wish of the 2021 Community Wishlist Survey.
- A public status system for WMF wikis has been created. It is located at https://www.wikimediastatus.net/ and is hosted separately to WMF wikis so in the case of an outage it will remain viewable.
- Remedy 2 of the St Christopher case has been rescinded following a motion. The remedy previously authorised administrators to place a ban on single-purpose accounts who were disruptively editing on the article St Christopher Iba Mar Diop College of Medicine or related pages from those pages.
This Month in GLAM: April 2022
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Wikidata weekly summary #520
Tech News: 2022-20
18:57, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
Wikidata weekly summary #521
Tech News: 2022-21
00:19, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
Commons categories
(I was redirected here from User talk:Pi bot.) I have again reverted an edit by Pi bot (talk · contribs) at Violet Keene. Firstly, does the automated account not recognize the undo flag, and its implication that edits shouldn't be automatically repeated multiple times? Secondly, the bot repeatedly says, Changing locally defined but nonexistent Commons category (Category:1=photographs by Violet Keene) to the one from Wikidata (Category:Violet Keene)
, even though c:Category:photographs by Violet Keene is most-certainly an existant category at the Commons? Thirdly, if these two errors cannot be accounted for, can the bot be manually programmed to not keep making this one edit? Thanks, — Fourthords | =Λ= | 14:00, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Fourthords: The problem is that [8] does not exist. The simplest way to avoid this is to correct the link, which I've already done [9] (use the lcfirst=yes parameter if you really want to keep the lower-case p). In general, though, it's better to use the main link to commons:Category:Violet Keene, since that's where any media related to Violet that aren't her photographs will end up - and even though it's empty except for the subcategory at the moment, it provides a bit of encouragement to upload more materials, and it provides context via the infobox that the subcategory does not. This is also the Commons link that will appear in the sidebar, and it's good to be consistent. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 14:06, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
- At Template:Commons category-inline/doc, it says that the
|1=
parameter is used for "the name of the Commons category this template will link to." In the previous version of the article, that usage was working correctly and linking to c:Category:photographs by Violet Keene (not c:Category:1=photographs by Violet Keene). Is the bot's error mistaking the template parameter for part of the category name? Can that be repaired? — Fourthords | =Λ= | 14:26, 23 May 2022 (UTC) P.S. You don't need to link to or name my userpage upon replying; indenting under my text is the default way to know you're replying to me. - A further thought: is the bot not 'aware' that the software is first-letter agnostic, and seeing the leading "photographs" as different from "Photographs"? — Fourthords | =Λ= | 14:29, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Fourthords: Look at the examples given, the template is rarely used with the '1=' parameter. The bot's been running since 2019, and this is the first time this issue has come up. I can modify the bot to cope with "1=" if needed, but it really seems like an edge case. The template itself doesn't work well with lower case first, without the lcfirst parameter, particularly with the comparison with Wikidata. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 14:30, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
the template is rarely used with the '1=' parameter.
Yet if the template is supposed to work like that regardlessly, shouldn't the bot have been programmed based on the template, not rarity? I also didn't realize the letter case malfunction was the template's error; I'm sorry for assuming the bot was at fault there. I'll let those editors know, thanks! — Fourthords | =Λ= | 14:35, 23 May 2022 (UTC) P.S. You don't need to link to or name my userpage upon replying; indenting under my text is the default way to know you're replying to me.- It's something I have to add in to the code manually, since I'm working with the wikitext. I can do that. The template code was also from me, it would probably need a Lua editor to avoid that issue, and setting up the lcfirst parameter seemed the easiest way to go (it also works then if you don't manually define the link, in which case it uses the value from Wikidata directly). Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 14:38, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Fourthords: bot code updated. With WP:THREAD, I know that's the default way, but I don't know if you're watching this page - hence the courtesy ping. If you reply to me on another page, please do the same, otherwise I might miss your message. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 20:05, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
- That's good to know, thanks!I don't know what "courtesy ping" means in this context. The only way I know if you reply is by watching your talk page, or if you left a note at mine. I think we're by-and-large done, now, but I tend to watch longer than strictly necessary just in case. (I also tend to accidentally watch pages more often that I think, probably by mishandling the keyboard while editing.) Thanks! — Fourthords | =Λ= | 13:11, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Fourthords: See Help:Notifications - you should get an alert in the top-right when you're pinged, it saves watching pages. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 13:35, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
- No!! That became a real site feature‽ Somebody was testing something like that eons ago, and it was hellish: trying to make the English Wikipedia a damnable social network or some nonsense. I asked an administrator to disable it for me, since I couldn't get it to go away. I never ever would have guessed it would become an actual feature! What dreck! Seriously, thank you for that info, 100%.Actually, as you are somebody who edits or makes enwp templates, maybe you can help? According to that page, even mentioning another user's page will bombard them with this crap, much less using the {{user}} template like I have for ages. Is it possible to not annoy the everloving piss out of my fellow editors, when I just want to link to their page? I can't fathom how many editors I've pissed off (for who knows how long) by putting a stick in their eyes all the damned time. Thanks, — Fourthords | =Λ= | 14:46, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
- It works really well - I use it a lot. We need more tools like this, it's hardly making Wikipedia a social network (although TBH I think we could do with a bit more of that to help with community cohesiveness!). I really wouldn't worry about accidental notifications - every editor can turn off the notifications if they want (Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-echo). Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 15:31, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
- No!! That became a real site feature‽ Somebody was testing something like that eons ago, and it was hellish: trying to make the English Wikipedia a damnable social network or some nonsense. I asked an administrator to disable it for me, since I couldn't get it to go away. I never ever would have guessed it would become an actual feature! What dreck! Seriously, thank you for that info, 100%.Actually, as you are somebody who edits or makes enwp templates, maybe you can help? According to that page, even mentioning another user's page will bombard them with this crap, much less using the {{user}} template like I have for ages. Is it possible to not annoy the everloving piss out of my fellow editors, when I just want to link to their page? I can't fathom how many editors I've pissed off (for who knows how long) by putting a stick in their eyes all the damned time. Thanks, — Fourthords | =Λ= | 14:46, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Fourthords: See Help:Notifications - you should get an alert in the top-right when you're pinged, it saves watching pages. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 13:35, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
- That's good to know, thanks!I don't know what "courtesy ping" means in this context. The only way I know if you reply is by watching your talk page, or if you left a note at mine. I think we're by-and-large done, now, but I tend to watch longer than strictly necessary just in case. (I also tend to accidentally watch pages more often that I think, probably by mishandling the keyboard while editing.) Thanks! — Fourthords | =Λ= | 13:11, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Fourthords: bot code updated. With WP:THREAD, I know that's the default way, but I don't know if you're watching this page - hence the courtesy ping. If you reply to me on another page, please do the same, otherwise I might miss your message. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 20:05, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
- It's something I have to add in to the code manually, since I'm working with the wikitext. I can do that. The template code was also from me, it would probably need a Lua editor to avoid that issue, and setting up the lcfirst parameter seemed the easiest way to go (it also works then if you don't manually define the link, in which case it uses the value from Wikidata directly). Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 14:38, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Fourthords: Look at the examples given, the template is rarely used with the '1=' parameter. The bot's been running since 2019, and this is the first time this issue has come up. I can modify the bot to cope with "1=" if needed, but it really seems like an edge case. The template itself doesn't work well with lower case first, without the lcfirst parameter, particularly with the comparison with Wikidata. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 14:30, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
- At Template:Commons category-inline/doc, it says that the
The Signpost: 29 May 2022
- From the team: A changing of the guard
- News and notes: 2022 Wikimedia Board elections
- Community view: Have your say in the 2022 Wikimedia Foundation Board elections
- In the media: Putin, Jimbo, Musk and more
- Special report: Three stories of Ukrainian Wikimedians during the war
- Discussion report: Portals, April Fools, admin activity requirements and more
- WikiProject report: WikiProject COVID-19 revisited
- Technology report: A new video player for Wikimedia wikis
- Featured content: Featured content of April
- Interview: Wikipedia's pride
- Serendipity: Those thieving image farms
- Recent research: 35 million Twitter links analysed
- Tips and tricks: The reference desks of Wikipedia
- Traffic report: Strange highs and strange lows
- News from Diff: Winners of the Human rights and Environment special nomination by Wiki Loves Earth announced
- News from the WMF: The EU Digital Services Act: What’s the Deal with the Deal?
- From the archives: The Onion and Wikipedia
- Humour: A new crossword
Wikidata weekly summary #522
Tech News: 2022-22
20:27, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – June 2022
News and updates for administrators from the past month (May 2022).
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- Several areas of improvement collated from community member votes have been identified in the Universal Code of Conduct Enforcement guidelines. The areas of improvement have been sent back for review and you are invited to provide input on these areas.
- Administrators using the mobile web interface can now access Special:Block directly from user pages. (T307341)
- The IP Info feature has been deployed to all wikis as a Beta Feature. Any autoconfirmed user may enable the feature using the "IP info" checkbox under Preferences → Beta features. Autoconfirmed users will be able to access basic information about an IP address that includes the country and connection method. Those with advanced privileges (admin, bureaucrat, checkuser) will have access to extra information that includes the Internet Service Provider and more specific location.
- Remedy 2 of the Rachel Marsden case has been rescinded following a motion. The remedy previously authorised administrators to delete or reduce to a stub, together with their talk pages, articles related to Rachel Marsden when they violate Wikipedia's biographies of living persons policy.
- An arbitration case regarding WikiProject Tropical Cyclones has been closed.
Tech News: 2022-23
02:45, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
Wikidata weekly summary #523
A doubt
Hello Mike Peel! I am recently unblocked. I want to remove the contents in my user page. Is it allowed? Is it to be done by me or by an admin? In fact, i also want to delete my user page and my user talk page for a fresh start. Is it allowed? If so, how shall I request it procedurally? --Haoreima (talk) 17:58, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Haoreima: See Wikipedia:User_pages#Ownership_and_editing_of_user_pages and, if needed, Wikipedia:Criteria_for_speedy_deletion#G7._Author_requests_deletion. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 18:02, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
This Month in GLAM: May 2022
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