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:I'm not sure what your actually proposing. Wikipedia is not a TV guide, so people shouldn't be coming here to find out what channel their show is airing on. They have their own channel listings for that. [[User:Bignole|<small>'''<span style="background:Maroon;color:Gold"> BIGNOLE </span>'''</small>]] [[User talk:Bignole|<small>(Contact me)</small>]] 13:39, 31 August 2013 (UTC) |
:I'm not sure what your actually proposing. Wikipedia is not a TV guide, so people shouldn't be coming here to find out what channel their show is airing on. They have their own channel listings for that. [[User:Bignole|<small>'''<span style="background:Maroon;color:Gold"> BIGNOLE </span>'''</small>]] [[User talk:Bignole|<small>(Contact me)</small>]] 13:39, 31 August 2013 (UTC) |
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I propose that the entire section be '''removed'''. Neither of the two arguments I've seen cited for what it states are actually valid. [[WP:DATED]] doesn't work, because it is actually quite rare that broadcasters for shows - except perhaps certain major shows - change; what is more common is that broadcasters change their branding, but this isn't much of a problem since redirects exist. Neither does [[WP:NOTTVGUIDE]]: a TV guide lists what times shows are on. The type of information in question in this case, on the other hand, is something I haven't been able to find anywhere else to date, including any TV guide. [[User:Dogmaticeclectic|Dogmaticeclectic]] ([[User talk:Dogmaticeclectic|talk]]) 20:44, 28 September 2013 (UTC) |
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Programming list article troubles
I'm not quite sure this is the right place for discussion of this sort, but my circumstances are formatting-centric in my case.
Taking a glance at the article List of programs broadcast by Adult Swim, right off the bat, you can tell that it is verbose, with detailed (but often unsourced) descriptions for all 237-ish series listed. I attempted to streamline the descriptions by separating certain information into different columns (e.g. production companies and series creators) to no avail; at the end of the day, it is still an indiscriminate list of information, which the guidelines explicitly call out. Prior attempts at removing such indiscriminate information outright removes a lot of the sources provided, which was met with my edits being quickly reverted.
I've been experimenting in my sandbox, trying to find a way to optimally convey content that meets the criteria of being vital to the article, as well as being sourced content without it being indiscriminate. However, I'm not quite sure which of the two formats best suits the article. Right now I have it set up as a list and as a table. Certain guidelines say it should be presented as a table, but most other articles like it present it as a list.
- In list format: here.
- In table format: here.
- I also have an updated version of this table format in a text editor, with start and end dates seperated (amongst other things), but I haven't got the time to properly wikify it.
At this point, I need a reality check as to how the current article stands right now (not the revisions listed), and maybe some constrictive criticism to add to the user namespace revisions listed, and what measures I should take to implement it into the main namespace. — Whisternefet (talk/contribs) 05:30, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
Why are articles about TV series always written in present tense?
Why is it that articles about TV series are always written as if the show is still running? Articles about things like deceased people, past award ceremonies, as well as past sport events are all written in past tense, because they were things that occurred for an extended amount of time and stopped at some point. How are TV series any different? Scarce2 (talk) 00:00, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
- First, tv series are not people, thus they cannot die. TV series are perpetual. Even when the show is over, it still exists. I can view it as I want. For instance, The Cosby Show will always be a television show, it just is not a show that currently airs anymore. Being a television show is not determined by whether you are still on tv, but whether or not you ever were. Unless the evidence for a show is completely destroyed, it will always exist. Bill Cosby will always be Heathcliff Huxtable on the show, that doesn't change. Anything about fiction is always present tense, because it will forever exist. People view it in the present tense, they don't view it in the past tense. If you need further clarification, see WP:WAF and WP:TENSE. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 00:13, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
International broadcasting controversy and proposal
The article said "When detailing a show's international broadcasting, simply listing every channel the series appears on is discouraged." What happens if the article violates this. This is a controversy because people outside the tv show's country won't watch and they needed to watch their favourite. It said "The Free Encyclopedia" which means anyone can edit. We should make a proposal for the English speaking persons outside the country they came from. 174.89.25.75 (talk) 07:44, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
- I'm not sure what your actually proposing. Wikipedia is not a TV guide, so people shouldn't be coming here to find out what channel their show is airing on. They have their own channel listings for that. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 13:39, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
Section removal proposal
I propose that the entire section be removed. Neither of the two arguments I've seen cited for what it states are actually valid. WP:DATED doesn't work, because it is actually quite rare that broadcasters for shows - except perhaps certain major shows - change; what is more common is that broadcasters change their branding, but this isn't much of a problem since redirects exist. Neither does WP:NOTTVGUIDE: a TV guide lists what times shows are on. The type of information in question in this case, on the other hand, is something I haven't been able to find anywhere else to date, including any TV guide. Dogmaticeclectic (talk) 20:44, 28 September 2013 (UTC)