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I would like to suggest renaming "The Creator of the Barnstar" as "The Barnstar Creator's Barnstar," and to expand the description for the "Defender of the Wiki" barnstar to say, "The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar may be awarded to those who have prevented Wikipedia from being used for fraudulent purposes, or who have defended Wikipedia against threats not covered by other barnstars. The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar was created after the 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake, when a fraudulent charity tried to take advantage of the widespread media coverage of the article." Would anyone like to comment? [[User:Pine|<font color="#01796F"><b>Pine</b></font>]][[User talk:Pine|<sup>talk</sup>]] 23:34, 6 December 2011 (UTC) |
I would like to suggest renaming "The Creator of the Barnstar" as "The Barnstar Creator's Barnstar," and to expand the description for the "Defender of the Wiki" barnstar to say, "The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar may be awarded to those who have prevented Wikipedia from being used for fraudulent purposes, or who have defended Wikipedia against threats not covered by other barnstars. The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar was created after the 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake, when a fraudulent charity tried to take advantage of the widespread media coverage of the article." Would anyone like to comment? [[User:Pine|<font color="#01796F"><b>Pine</b></font>]][[User talk:Pine|<sup>talk</sup>]] 23:34, 6 December 2011 (UTC) |
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I've noticed that there are a whole bunch of medals and stars that exist without all three styles of ribbon. Is there a series of templates out there for Photoshopping/GIMPing those up, because I'd be happy to take a stab at such things. -[[User:Achowat|Achowat]] ([[User talk:Achowat|talk]]) 01:41, 9 December 2011 (UTC) |
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New barnstar
File:Barnstar - technical works.svg
- — Z 17:58, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
I like this one. Can you make a template for it? Pinetalk 08:27, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
{{The Technical Barnstar}} :) You can change the color and other parameters if you'd like; but the image will not be clear if you reduce the size. — Z 17:56, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
The Technical Barnstar | ||
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I like this! Would anyone object to my putting this on the main barnstar list? Pinetalk 06:48, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
- I would like to know what the barnstar is for, a WikiProject, or what? After, I will put it in the respective category. ~~Ebe123~~ (+) talk
Contribs 13:56, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
New Award
How about a Wikimedia Ambassador Barnstar. We have the Commons Ambassador Barnstar but why not for outreach, incubator, strategy, meta, wiktionary, wikispecies and more. ~~Ebe123~~ (+) talk
Contribs • 10:49, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
- Sounds reasonable. Pinetalk 19:22, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, it does. - Benzband (talk) 17:29, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
- Definitely. Bob the WikipediaN (talk • contribs) 04:14, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, it does. - Benzband (talk) 17:29, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
National Merit
Is there such a thing as a "Wikipedia barnstar of National Merit" (for improving the coverage of Wikipedia on Wikipedia) ? - Benzband (talk) 16:59, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
- I don't think there is, but I would also assume this is not a topic broad enough to warrant a separate barnstar. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 12:54, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
The Quasar barnstar
I have perused the barnstars as carefully as possible and I don't see one I think will work well. Please correct me if I am in error.
I propose the creation of a barnstar for editors who tweak and clarify the workings and rules at Wikipedia - someone who strives to edit the rules themselves. Someone who points out a rule that is not so good.
I propose that it be called the Quasar barnstar and that it show an image of a galaxy inside it. Naturally I am open to improvements for the name of the award, but not especially open to changes in my idea for the star itself. Thank you. Djathinkimacowboy 11:47, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
- Why galaxy/quasar? — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 12:54, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
- How about a Quasar barnstar for editors who tweak/clarify the workings and rules of Wikipedia, and strive to improve coverage of Wikipedia on itself as well as improving the Wikipedia: namespace. - Benzband (talk) 13:33, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
- But why is it quasar/galaxy? I don't see any connection with Wikipedia: namespace or policies/guidelines. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 15:48, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
- Don't know. What i meant was merge my previous idea with this one. Then again, a Quasar is a very energetic and active
nucleuseditor, and pictures of Quasars go well on userpages… (maybe that's why ;) - Benzband (talk) 16:26, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
- Don't know. What i meant was merge my previous idea with this one. Then again, a Quasar is a very energetic and active
- But why is it quasar/galaxy? I don't see any connection with Wikipedia: namespace or policies/guidelines. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 15:48, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
- How about a Quasar barnstar for editors who tweak/clarify the workings and rules of Wikipedia, and strive to improve coverage of Wikipedia on itself as well as improving the Wikipedia: namespace. - Benzband (talk) 13:33, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
Very well, I ought to have been more clear: it seems to me that it is a matter of total indifference what quasar or galaxy image one uses, I think. Djathinkimacowboy 20:34, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
- I agree somewhat with the first comment from Benzband, but I think it needs a clearer name than the Quasar Barnstar even if the image of a quasar is used. We already have the Working Wikipedian's barnstar though, so could we simply add these possibilities to the scope of that barnstar? Pinetalk 19:26, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
- It does not seem to me to be so confusing a name. I had given some thought to what a quasar might be perceived to do in its natural state and just thought the star and the name made a good marriage. Djathinkimacowboy 20:34, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
- I still would prefer expanding the scope of the Working Wikipedian's barnstar instead of adding this one. Pinetalk 06:45, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
- Djathinkimacowboy i agree with you that the quasar to be portrayed does not really matter. I was just linking to the first picture i found (on the quasar article) in case anybody didn't know what it was… (i had no idea until i hit the "search" button :) - Benzband (talk) 17:02, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
- Oh, good. Yes, that seems good. It looks like it may be cooking in a few brains, however, because of its name and perhaps even its usefulness. Let me suggest once more that there really is nothing like it among the stars, and my personal slant on this was an award for editors who improve rules, assist with them, etc. I was put in mind of this idea when I saw the work being done, the discussion being entertained, to possibly change the wording about verifiability. Have any of you seen that? I think people who do that deserve a special new star. Djathinkimacowboy 18:45, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
- Djathinkimacowboy i agree with you that the quasar to be portrayed does not really matter. I was just linking to the first picture i found (on the quasar article) in case anybody didn't know what it was… (i had no idea until i hit the "search" button :) - Benzband (talk) 17:02, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
- I still would prefer expanding the scope of the Working Wikipedian's barnstar instead of adding this one. Pinetalk 06:45, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
- It does not seem to me to be so confusing a name. I had given some thought to what a quasar might be perceived to do in its natural state and just thought the star and the name made a good marriage. Djathinkimacowboy 20:34, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
Benzband says: "How about a Quasar barnstar for editors who tweak/clarify the workings and rules of Wikipedia, and strive to improve coverage of Wikipedia on itself ..." - and I agree totally with this, totally. And as long as the star is royal blue and has sprinkles of quasars, galaxies, what have you, I'm all for it because that is how I envisioned all this. Sorry if I stumped anyone. Djathinkimacowboy 05:50, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
- Sorry, I completely forgot another which I think is sorely needed: a gold or platinum star for the finest of Wikipedia's articles. Not only would such a star add lustre, it might also discourage vandals! Djathinkimacowboy 11:51, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
- We already have {{Featured article}} and {{Good article}}. I don't think there is any need for additional undue attention. Where would such star be placed, I'm pretty sure this would be mostly opposed if proposed on the article itself. The talk page already has a big FA/GA notice. And this would not discourage any vandals, in fact the opposite. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 12:54, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
- Agree with HellKnowz. — Benzband (talk) 16:26, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
- Well, I had been thinking it could be placed discreetly at the top of the article, where editors presently are able to add articles to their watchlist. Thanking you for the attention, I bow to your judgment. Djathinkimacowboy 19:08, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
- To place it as an icon that's horizontal to the Watchlist icon would require a technical change similar to Wikilove. I wouldn't mind having an icon there that indicates the article's quality rating, but this wouldn't be a barnstar. You could propose this at WP:Village Pump. Pinetalk 19:29, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
- Well, I had been thinking it could be placed discreetly at the top of the article, where editors presently are able to add articles to their watchlist. Thanking you for the attention, I bow to your judgment. Djathinkimacowboy 19:08, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
- Agree with HellKnowz. — Benzband (talk) 16:26, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
- We already have {{Featured article}} and {{Good article}}. I don't think there is any need for additional undue attention. Where would such star be placed, I'm pretty sure this would be mostly opposed if proposed on the article itself. The talk page already has a big FA/GA notice. And this would not discourage any vandals, in fact the opposite. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 12:54, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
- That sounds very similiar to the featured article star that already decorates featured articles. See the star at the top right of George Koval for an example of this. You can tell yourself that your ideas are so good that people do them before you ask! Cloveapple (talk) 05:32, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
Quite right. Thanks. Djathinkimacowboy 20:34, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
- Very good Cloveapple. I honestly had not noticed those stars before. Djathinkimacowboy 05:47, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
Is there something further than this? Will anyone come back here and make a statement of some sort, or what? I'm new at this - all I can do is go check the barnstars page. Djathinkimacowboy 02:50, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
- I have never been involved in barnstar creation before. Maybe the idea could be implemented as a non-official barnstar, and then proposed (again) once you've got something to actually show. Then there could be discussion on how to improve it… Do you want to upload a picture? This could be done from a barnstar and a quasar (or wahtever)… If you like i could try stuff out to and upload it (to commons) to see what you think… (but i can't garantee anything :) - Benzband (talk) 17:28, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
- B, you are very kind. Somewhat like you, I have never done any of this before. Plus, I had no idea the editor was expected to show the barnstar here. Many people would just be making up barnstars and awarding them if it were that easy!
- Any help you could offer is so deeply appreciated - have you ever seen one of those sharply-pointed diamond shapes? Four-point star, I guess it's called. That is often used to represent a quasar. That on top of the dark blue star, speckled with white dots to represent galaxies, etc. That is all I was thinking. Anything would be fine. I am grateful Djathinkimacowboy 19:38, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
It's lovely! Just what I pictured and I love the golden border round about the star itself. My idea involving that abstract diamon shape would have fit because I saw it as superimposed on top of the barnstarr. However, yours is 100% perfect! I love it - now I guess th next step will be what to call it and for what reasons it should be awarded, though I stand by my original proposal. Djathinkimacowboy 23:35, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
- I'm glad you like the design :-) Maybe we could go ahead make a template (a bit like this) for the star. That is, if no-one here finds an objection? - Benzband (talk) 18:26, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
- I have created {{The Quasar barnstar}} with the picture on the right. I have only inserted the very basic "barnstar" formatting but of course it can be modified at will… ;) ~ Benzband (talk) 18:38, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
Userbox
In short, this barnstar is awarded to users who give many barnstars, which in turn is a barnstar that may compel the user to give more barnstars. |
This is Ace of Spades' BarnstarAward userbox, for users who give many barnstars to give even more barnstars. I liked the idea, so here it is… :-) Benzband (talk) 19:31, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
- It's a beauty of an idea (for the worth of my opinion, anyway). Personally I'd like to see a fancier star, but at the moment I'm waiting for an idea. Nothing's coming. But I love the whole idea. I know! What about a star with a musical notation on it? Like a triplet of notes. Djathinkimacowboy 21:41, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
- If you look carefully, you'll see that we already have this award. It's called "The Barnstar Barnstar". Pinetalk 07:41, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
- Well yes, but not with the possibility to award more. The button on this userbox is what makes its interesting concept. Maybe we could at it to The Barnstar Barnstar's page as an optional item for display on receivers userpages? benzband (talk) 16:50, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
- If you look carefully, you'll see that we already have this award. It's called "The Barnstar Barnstar". Pinetalk 07:41, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
Cast Iron Engineering Barnstar
I added the Cast Iron Engineering Barnstar before I saw the notice that I would have to discuss this at the talkpage. So I am initiating this discussion in case anyone objects or otherwise wants to comment. Thank you. Dr.K. λogosπraxis 16:42, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
- I don't object to having a topic barnstar for engineering, but the design is too similar to the Original Barnstar. How about having a barnstar with gears or a steam engine? Pinetalk 09:30, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
- This is not a design. The barnstar is the actual picture of a cast-iron real-life barnstar and it is very detailed. It is the only real-life barnstar picture of its kind presently. Cast-iron is also present in other Engineering disciplines not only Mechanical engineering as the gears and steam engine would imply. Iron played an important and historical part in ancient and modern Engineering. For example bridges for civil Engineering, casting of parts, machines, buildings etc. and the Industrial Revolution. See also the Engineer's Ring and Iron Ring for the symbolism of iron in Engineering. Dr.K. λogosπraxis 14:07, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
- My comment was about the appearance of the barnstar. It should be more distinct from the Original Barnstar. My suggestions of gears or a steam engine were meant as ways to distinguish an engineering barnstar from the Original Barnstar. As for iron itself, iron is not very pivotal in disciplines like software engineering and genetic engineering, and that ring seems to be used only in Canada. My main objection to the design as it's presented is that the appearance is too similar to the Original Barnstar's appearance. If you can make the barnstar more distinctive then I might support it. Pinetalk 06:58, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
- The Engineer's Ring is made of stainless steel and is used by US Engineers. As far as making the barnstar more distinctive I'll have to think about it and see if I can come with something, even though I prefer to keep it simple and unadorned. Dr.K. λogosπraxis 19:26, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
- I changed the colour and gave it a silver hue. I actually like it better now and I think it looks different from the original barnstar. Thank you for your idea. Please let me know what you think about it. Dr.K. λogosπraxis 20:02, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks, that's a little better. How about adding a gear, math symbols, or something else in the background? Pinetalk 07:57, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
- I will try my best. Give me some time though. Thanks again. Dr.K. λogosπraxis 09:43, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
- I just did. Please let me know. Dr.K. λogosπraxis 01:07, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
- I will try my best. Give me some time though. Thanks again. Dr.K. λogosπraxis 09:43, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks, that's a little better. How about adding a gear, math symbols, or something else in the background? Pinetalk 07:57, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
- My comment was about the appearance of the barnstar. It should be more distinct from the Original Barnstar. My suggestions of gears or a steam engine were meant as ways to distinguish an engineering barnstar from the Original Barnstar. As for iron itself, iron is not very pivotal in disciplines like software engineering and genetic engineering, and that ring seems to be used only in Canada. My main objection to the design as it's presented is that the appearance is too similar to the Original Barnstar's appearance. If you can make the barnstar more distinctive then I might support it. Pinetalk 06:58, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
- This is not a design. The barnstar is the actual picture of a cast-iron real-life barnstar and it is very detailed. It is the only real-life barnstar picture of its kind presently. Cast-iron is also present in other Engineering disciplines not only Mechanical engineering as the gears and steam engine would imply. Iron played an important and historical part in ancient and modern Engineering. For example bridges for civil Engineering, casting of parts, machines, buildings etc. and the Industrial Revolution. See also the Engineer's Ring and Iron Ring for the symbolism of iron in Engineering. Dr.K. λogosπraxis 14:07, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
Giving a Barnstar
What type of barnstar would be suitable to give to a user that has done unnoticed but significant work on a page? 99.171.92.52 (talk) 02:40, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
The Pagan Barnstar
helpful information about the religion of Paganism or of Neopaganism.
There are many religious barnstars but none about (neo)paganism. IMHO it's not necessary to separate awards for these topics. They are very closely related, divided only by time. I am not sure which picture is the best so... The left-one contains in the middle pentagram, general pagan (and also Wiccan) symbol, around are symbols of several pagan ways; Egyptian, Celtic, Slavic, German/Norse and Hellenic (and also Roman). The right-one has in the middle bust of emperor Iulianus who tried to restore the original religions of the Roman Empire instead of growing christianity. The text on the top says re-establishment of the happy times.
The Pagan Barnstar | |
For your excellent contributions to Neo-Pagan related articles. --Niusereset (talk) 12:28, 26 November 2011 (UTC) |
The colour for the "pagan barnstar template" is taken from the Template:Neopaganism to keep the right topic-colour...
So... this is my barnstar suggestion.
Niusereset (talk) 12:28, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
- Nice job! I'm sure you'll be able to find people to award this to ;-) benzband (talk) 13:25, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
Global Education Program barnstar
One of our professors in the WP:Global Education Program would like to award his or her campus ambassadors a barnstar for their outstanding efforts. Can someone make a barnstar designed specifically for Global Education Program contributions? Thanks! Bob the WikipediaN (talk • contribs) 02:42, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
- Note-- I was just informed we're supposed to call it the "Wikipedia Education Program" now. Bob the WikipediaN (talk • contribs) 04:33, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
- If you look higher on this talk page, you'll see that there is a similar discussion already. But the number of graphic design volunteers is very low. You may need to ask elsewhere, or ask one of the students who has talents in graphic design to submit a barnstar design. Pinetalk 07:38, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
- This is something that should be a priority. This is the first barnstar in a long time that is basically devoted to new editors. We need to keep these University educated editors above and beyond the Education Program. This is a very simply and friendly way of showing gratitude to a whole segment of new editors. I wish I knew how (or had a program for that matter) to do this right now. PS do they have a logo yet?Moxy (talk) 06:20, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
- If you look higher on this talk page, you'll see that there is a similar discussion already. But the number of graphic design volunteers is very low. You may need to ask elsewhere, or ask one of the students who has talents in graphic design to submit a barnstar design. Pinetalk 07:38, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
- I found File:BarnstarUni.png (used on {{University Barnstar}} which definitely seems like it could work in a pinch. EVula // talk // ☯ // 06:45, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
- I left "BOB" a note about the {{University Barnstar}}.Moxy (talk) 16:52, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks; passed it along to the interested instructor. I'll stay tuned for further developments on this barnstar proposal. Bob the WikipediaN (talk • contribs) 18:16, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
- I left "BOB" a note about the {{University Barnstar}}.Moxy (talk) 16:52, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
Black Belt Barnstar
Hi All, I've created a new Barnstar for use with WikiProject Martial arts that looks something like this:
The Martial Arts Barnstar | ||
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. I've been told that it can't be added to the barnstar page without first discussing it here. So, uh, discuss? --Stvfetterly (talk) 13:54, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
- Seems fine to me, could be added under the 'Awards by WikiProject'. Also i have fixed the template's documentation using the {{documentation}} template that should be used, as well as adding some practical information on how to place and substitute the award. Best! :-) benzband (talk) 17:22, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
- I like the design. I'd say to let this sit here a week and if there is a consensus, go ahead with adding it to "Awards by WikiProject." Pinetalk 23:25, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
- OK, will do.--Stvfetterly (talk) 15:57, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
Barnstar name and description tweaks
I would like to suggest renaming "The Creator of the Barnstar" as "The Barnstar Creator's Barnstar," and to expand the description for the "Defender of the Wiki" barnstar to say, "The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar may be awarded to those who have prevented Wikipedia from being used for fraudulent purposes, or who have defended Wikipedia against threats not covered by other barnstars. The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar was created after the 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake, when a fraudulent charity tried to take advantage of the widespread media coverage of the article." Would anyone like to comment? Pinetalk 23:34, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
Ribbon Alternatives
I've noticed that there are a whole bunch of medals and stars that exist without all three styles of ribbon. Is there a series of templates out there for Photoshopping/GIMPing those up, because I'd be happy to take a stab at such things. -Achowat (talk) 01:41, 9 December 2011 (UTC)