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== Rhynie move == |
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An editor has recently moved [[Rhynie]] to [[Rhynie, Aberdeenshire]], creating a disambiguation page at [[Rhynie]]. This has left a lot of articles linking to the disambiguation page that should be linking to the Rhynie article. I've updated [[:Template:Marr, Aberdeenshire places]], which is the source of many of these mis-links, but [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Rhynie What links here] seems to take a while to catch up with transclusions, so I can't yet tell how many more need to be updated. I've also fixed the redirect that was left at the talk page of the new disambiguation page. --[[User:Deskford|Deskford]] ([[User talk:Deskford|talk]]) 10:26, 1 March 2010 (UTC) |
Revision as of 10:26, 1 March 2010
This Talk page is for discussing the core work of the WikiProject, ie. our drive to improve the quality of our key Scotland-related articles, focussing on Wikipedia 1.0 and beyond.
Popular pages
Anyone got any comment/objection etc on adding the Project to the bot generating lists of popular pages ([1]) ? I don't know what time zone it's in, might squeeze it in to start generating data for October if I'm quick. Le Deluge (talk) 22:57, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
- Sounds good to me. Jonathan Oldenbuck (talk) 08:33, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
CFD: Scots to Scottish people
I put up a notice at WP:SCOWNB, but very few people seem to Watch that page nowadays. It would be nice if at least one or two Scots contributed to such a basic topic: what should Wikipedia call us?
--Mais oui! (talk) 07:22, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
Oxford Dictionary of National Biography - October 2009 update - Scottish lives: Scotland and overseas
We have a wealth of biog info available here:
See also:
- http://www.oup.com/oxforddnb/info/freeodnb/shelves/scotland/
- http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/8295298.stm
- http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home-news/scots-biographies-added-to-oxford-dictionary-1.924884
- http://www.ox.ac.uk/media/news_stories/2009/091008.html
- http://www.nls.uk/collections/digital/resources/odnb.html
Hours and hours of endless wiki fun... --Mais oui! (talk) 10:00, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
Old Pictures - an idea
Duncanogi (talk · contribs) has just posted File:Lawrence and Doris Ogilvie on old Glencoe road 1931.jpg, which is displayed adjacent, to Glen Coe. The image has the description "Photo taken by my now-deceased parents, scanned in by the contributor." This idea may have been used any number of times in the past, but I don't recall seeing such a description before. Sadly, my parents passed away long before the invention of photography, but younger editors may have an interesting store of archive material. Ben MacDui 13:54, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
Peer review - Court of Session (Scotland)
This is a key topic for our WikiProject, absolutely essential to understanding Scottish civil society and our post-medieval history. The quality of our Scots law articles is generally abysmal, with very few articles being above Stub or Start class (no offence intended to the precious few Users who have contributed thus far to what is a massive topic area). I personally find our neglect of civil Scotland to be a tremendous shame: Wikipedia is the poorer for it.
Please help if you can:
Thanks in advance. --Mais oui! (talk) 05:20, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
- Encouraging progress has been made so far. IMHO a GA review here was too early, but nevertheless it is underway. Contributions from Scots lawyers would be especially welcome:
- Talk:Court of Session
- --Mais oui! (talk) 09:26, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
Queen's Speech and coming White Paper on Scottish devolution
We should keep our eye on articles associated with Scottish politics, as they will need updated in the coming weeks:
- Holyrood to gain power to set Scots rate of income tax
- Queen’s Speech will promise new tax-raising powers for Holyrood
--Mais oui! (talk) 09:51, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
GA reassessment - Dundee United F.C.
Please note that the GA status of Dundee United F.C. is currently under reassessment. See top of the Talk page for links. --Mais oui! (talk) 17:16, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
Mary Marquis
I've put BBC Scotland's Mary Marquis up for consideration for DYK, but it could probably use additional eyes and additional copy-editing if it's going to be linked off the front page. Jheald (talk) 22:18, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
Universities COTM Nomination
Hello WikiProject Scotland. I just wanted to let you all know that a university handled by your WikiProject, University of Glasgow, has been nominated for next month's WikiProject Universities Collaboration of the Month. If you'd like to take advantage of this opportunity, be sure to vote for the university. While you're there, consider helping improve one of our current Collaborations of the Month.
Happy editing! -Mabeenot (talk) 18:53, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
New Scottish Gaelic Template created
A new Scottish Gaelic Template has been created for use within articles. Template:Lang-scoga eg. (Scottish Gaelic: Dùn Cholla). Newm30 (talk) 02:08, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
- This already exists: {{lang-gd}}, eg. (Scottish Gaelic: Dùn Cholla). gd is the ISO 639-1 code for Scottish Gaelic, so should be used in preference to "scoga". I have redirected Template:Lang-scoga to Template:Lang-gd. Regards, Jonathan Oldenbuck (talk) 13:58, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
Pageview stats
After a recent request, I added WikiProject Scotland to the list of projects to compile monthly pageview stats for. The data is the same used by http://stats.grok.se/en/ but the program is different, and includes the aggregate views from all redirects to each page. The stats are at Wikipedia:WikiProject Scotland/Popular pages.
The page will be updated monthly with new data. The edits aren't marked as bot edits, so they will show up in watchlists. You can view more results, request a new project be added to the list, or request a configuration change for this project using the toolserver tool. If you have any comments or suggestions, please let me know. Thanks! Mr.Z-man 00:45, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
Strathcona = Clen Coe??
No WP article and no web search has yet been able to tell me the etymology of the word "Strathcona". I have a theory that was invented specificly for use in the title Baron Strathcona and Mount Royal. That article says that the full title of the barons said they were "of Glencoe". Now glen and strath both mean valley, so I asume that coe and cona are variants of the same root. And that would mean Strahcona is derived from Glen Coe. Can anyone shed light on this? --Kevlar (talk • contribs) 03:18, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
- I have done zilch research on this, so this is pure "WP:OR", but I do know that there is Cona Glen on the Ardgour side of Loch Linnhe. I suspect that the "Cona" element stems from that district rather than from the "Coe" district. --Mais oui! (talk) 11:01, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
- Likewise no idea if there's a connection but there is a Strathconon west of the Black Isle. Mutt Lunker (talk) 12:09, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
- Well I never. I'd have said that a Glencoe derivation just sounds all wrong, and I think from a purely toponymical POV it is, but that's without allowing for realpolitik and Victorian romanticism. According to p264 of this source, he originally wanted to be known as Baron Glencoe as he owned the Glencoe estate, but that was considered too incendiary given the history. So they came up with Strathcona as a cod Gaelicisation of Glencoe, to spare the feelings of the locals. Le Deluge (talk) 10:40, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
- As per my other response, I think a direct derivation of Cona from Coe/Comhann is unlikely. The final -a would be hard to account for. The avoidance of (Glen)coe makes sense as does the suggested link to Conaglen/Conghleann which is geographically near and a good match phonologically so if I had to make an educated guess, I'd go with Conaglen > Cona > strath + cona > Strathcona. Akerbeltz (talk) 01:13, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
Man-made structures found on seabed off Damsay, Orkney
- "A unique discovery of submerged man-made structures on the seabed off Orkney could help find solutions to rising sea levels, experts have said.", BBC News Scotland online
This would appear to be quite an important discovery. Certainly worthy of an expansion of our Damsay article, and perhaps (in time) an article in its own right, when we have sufficient ext refs and notability is established. --Mais oui! (talk) 08:34, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
A request from a Wikiversity Project
There is a plan to try and get a podcast ready for Burns Night. Wikiversity:Wiki_Campus_Radio/Active_audio_stream/01-25
I've already tried asking over on the Scots Wikipedia's seeming equivilant of the Village Pump. I was advised to mention the project here as well.
A lot of effort is needed, as are some readers that are able to provide an appropriate dialect for the poetry included.
Sfan00 IMG (talk) 21:03, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
CFD nominee? - Category:Scottish rebels
I have just discovered a category which has existed since May 2007, and has only one member (Robert the Bruce): Category:Scottish rebels. My first reaction was that this was gravely underpopulated! Gee whizz, could we not just put every single Scot who has ever existed into this cat? After all, rebelliousness is a bit of a national hobby.
However, my 2nd reaction was: why does this cat exist? A "rebel" from whose perspective exactly? Bruce may have been a "rebel" from a non-Scots perspective, but then I'm sure foreign powers often consider national leaders to be inconvenient to their plans. I'm sure that many non-Indian people thought of Gandhi as a "rebel", but it would be inappropriate to enter him into a wiki cat called Category:Indian rebels. (Can you imagine the fuss if someone put him in that cat?)
All in all, this cat should either be properly populated with people who rebelled against the Scottish state (rather than foreign states), or else CFD'd. I think I prefer CFD, due to the WP:VERIFY problems of this cat. Thoughts? --Mais oui! (talk) 09:23, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
- Arguably Bruce did rebel "against the Scottish state" but given the civil wars and UK/Scotland complication, definitions would be a nightmare I agree that it should be a CFD - or possibly it could become a User category. We could have an annual vote here to determine who was most deserving of the honour! Ben MacDui 09:39, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
A Wikiversity project needs some help
Over on Wikiversity, there is a plan to generate some audio content for Burns Night.
Ideally, this needs some Scottish Wikipedians to assist in getting the content written and recorded. Ideally, an Ayr dialect could be used to record Burns poetry itself.
If there's interest, I'll provide a link to the Wikiversity page. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 22:28, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
User:Paulineward - an employee of John Smith House?
I have just discovered an account which has been puffing up Scottish Labour politicians, and removing referenced material which shows said politicians in a poor light. I have left a warning at User talk:Paulineward, but would appreciate if other experienced Users went through the mass of edits on eg. Wendy Alexander, which nearly all lack an Edit summary. A worrying amount of ip and other redlinked-user activity on Labour MSPs bio articles.
Thanks in advance. --Mais oui! (talk) 07:44, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
WP 1.0 bot announcement
This message is being sent to each WikiProject that participates in the WP 1.0 assessment system. On Saturday, January 23, 2010, the WP 1.0 bot will be upgraded. Your project does not need to take any action, but the appearance of your project's summary table will change. The upgrade will make many new, optional features available to all WikiProjects. Additional information is available at the WP 1.0 project homepage. — Carl (CBM · talk) 03:53, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
A suspicious surfeit of Scottish names in this set suggests notification may spark someone's interest ...
Category:Poetasters is proposed for deletion!
Object or support -- voice your view 'ere completion!
Shall Wikipedia ignore the profound connections among all
The glorious rhymsters like William McGonagall,
McIntyre, Moore, McKittrick Ros,
Or J. Gordon Coogler (some might think it a loss),
But others [to comply with WP:CANVASS provisions],
Might deem this deletion a darn good decision.
Decide for yourself, and (here [2]) make your views known,
On the category for poets for badness renowned!
-- JohnWBarber (talk) 18:14, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
The issue of how to deal with UK political parties in Wales and Scotland in intros and infoboxes has been raised centrally at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Politics of the United Kingdom#The Labour Party or Welsh Labour /Scottish Labour Party. Your participation in the discussion would be welcome. Daicaregos (talk) 18:19, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
Listing all of the unreferenced living people for your project and Bruce McFee
Bruce McFee, a Scottish politician, is an unreferenced living person (BLP), so it will probably be deleted if it is not referenced. I have no expertise in this subject. Could someone in this project please reference it?
- List of all articles which need cleanup for your project
Cleanup listings is a list of articles which need cleanup for each wikiproject on your page. A bot collects all relevant tagged unreferenced living people, plus other lists onto one page. This bot is updated regularly monthly.
Adding this listing is very easy to add to a project: simply add a template to the main page of the project.
The 616 projects which already have this cleanup listing and use this bot are here an example is here: Wikipedia:WikiProject London/Cleanup listing.
Okip (formerly Ikip) 18:57, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
Rhynie move
An editor has recently moved Rhynie to Rhynie, Aberdeenshire, creating a disambiguation page at Rhynie. This has left a lot of articles linking to the disambiguation page that should be linking to the Rhynie article. I've updated Template:Marr, Aberdeenshire places, which is the source of many of these mis-links, but What links here seems to take a while to catch up with transclusions, so I can't yet tell how many more need to be updated. I've also fixed the redirect that was left at the talk page of the new disambiguation page. --Deskford (talk) 10:26, 1 March 2010 (UTC)