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:::Looks very good to me. What sort of procedure is there to follow to get it "approved", if there is one, or do we just go with it? [[User:John Carter|John Carter]] ([[User talk:John Carter|talk]]) 23:04, 7 November 2009 (UTC) |
:::Looks very good to me. What sort of procedure is there to follow to get it "approved", if there is one, or do we just go with it? [[User:John Carter|John Carter]] ([[User talk:John Carter|talk]]) 23:04, 7 November 2009 (UTC) |
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::::Normally, we decide it here. The few people that visit this page sort of !vote on it, or in this case wikiproject Uganda can decide since it's for them. ≈ [[User:Chamal_N|'''C'''hamal]] [[User talk:Chamal_N|<sup><span style="color:#C71585;">talk</span></sup>]] [[Special:Contributions/Chamal_N|¤]] 05:29, 8 November 2009 (UTC) |
::::Normally, we decide it here. The few people that visit this page sort of !vote on it, or in this case wikiproject Uganda can decide since it's for them. ≈ [[User:Chamal_N|'''C'''hamal]] [[User talk:Chamal_N|<sup><span style="color:#C71585;">talk</span></sup>]] [[Special:Contributions/Chamal_N|¤]] 05:29, 8 November 2009 (UTC) |
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:::::My suggestion would be to place it at the Ugandan Wikiproject as a donation. I can't imagine having us place a BStar for every country at [[WP:Barnstar]]. [[User:Unschool|<font color="52A249">'''Un'''</font>]][[User talk:Unschool|<font color="23CE40">'''sch'''</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Unschool|<font color="7ED324">'''ool'''</font>]] 07:18, 8 November 2009 (UTC) |
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== Request for Newts == |
== Request for Newts == |
Revision as of 07:18, 8 November 2009
Reorganizing the order of the main barnstar section
Currently the order is by date, which was okay when we had a dozen barnstars, now there are near 50.
At first I was thinking of organizing these by name, then I thought maybe by popularity (by number of editors who have added the image to their page) but then I thought a few categories would be best. Alphabetized within those categories, all in one large template, as it currently is. The categories can be disguished as pastel backgrounds also.
I see roughly four category of barnstars now. More categories could be created:
Creation | Attitude and help | Clean up | Generic |
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Articles for Creation
Audio Citation Barnstar Cleanup Content Creativity Barnstar Curator da Vinci Graphic Designer's MotivationAward Photographer's Press Real Life Recovery Rescue Rosetta Writer's |
Admin's
Amazingaward Anti-Flame Barnstarofpeace CivilityAward Diligence Good Humor Guidance Home-made Integrity InvisibleBarnstar Left Half of the Half Minor Modest Random Acts of Kindness Resilient Right Half of the Half Socratic Surreal Teamwork Tireless Contributor What a Brilliant Idea Working Man's Your Opinion is More Important than You Think |
Anti-Spam
Anti-Vandalism Copyeditor's Copyright Cleanup Defender of the Wiki Editor's Biographies of living persons Red Link Removal Redirect Wikilink |
Original
Special |
Ikip (talk) 17:02, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
- I see no problem with the current organization of the page. Nutiketaiel (talk) 19:12, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
- Actually, I kinda agree with Ikip on this, with so many barnstars, it means the ones at the bottom have less chance of being used, and because they are the new ones, this is a bit unfair. With sub-categories, it would be much easier to navigate the "main barnstar section". - Kingpin13 (talk) 19:55, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
- I support the idea of reorganizing the Barnstars, but I don't care for the new table format they were just put into. It added a lot of whitespace and reduced readability for the minor benefit of sortability. --ThaddeusB (talk) 01:43, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
- Oh, you're right, that new table format looks awful! It squeezes the text into such a tiny space and makes it so hard to read. Who did that? Nutiketaiel (talk) 11:39, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
- The reason it's been done like that, is so that you can choose to sort the barnstars (because the table is now a sortable table). So you can either sort them A-Z or chronologically (as we have it now). This is a really great idea, IMO. But I would propose moving the who modified/who created/who suggested section back into the main section, and just having one extra section for when it was added (this will still let use choose what to sort it by, and prevent it from being squashed). - Kingpin13 (talk) 11:51, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
- Oh, you're right, that new table format looks awful! It squeezes the text into such a tiny space and makes it so hard to read. Who did that? Nutiketaiel (talk) 11:39, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
How about making the who created, who proposed, and who modified into one colomn, and the date created in a column by itself. Like such:
Image | What to type | Title and description | Date created | Editors |
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{{subst:Barn|message ~~~~}} | Original Barnstar
This barnstar, the first on Wikipedia, is given to recognize particularly fine contributions to Wikipedia, to let people know that their hard work is seen and appreciated. |
2003 12 19 | Created by: Martin Harper
Modified by: 2004 02 17 Silsor |
As Kingpin13 pointed out, adding a date column allows editors to see the current chronologial format, even if the order were to change.
Ikip (talk) 15:31, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
- Ooh, that version looks much better. Nutiketaiel (talk) 11:30, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
- Aye, much nicer like that :) - Kingpin13 (talk) 11:49, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
- Is there a way to sort them by name by default ? Otherwise the move doesn't address the original concern : by default, the barnstars are still sorted by chronological order, which makes it harder to find the right barnstar for someone who doesn't know them. If the sortable doesn't define a default sort, we will would have to sort them manually and check that newly added barnstars are in the right place... :s Ksempac (talk) 23:35, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
- I think a separate date column is unnecessary since they're sorted by date already. –xenotalk 15:22, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
- I agree with making this new table for the barnstars (including the date of creation), anyone else vote in favour? - ☩Damërung ☩. -- 21:44, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
- I, too, like the new table, but what is this "vote" of which you speak? Nutiketaiel (talk) 11:27, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
- Actually there are now 2 "new tables". The one with a date column [1] as discussed here. And the one without the date column that xeno made and is the current one displayed on the page [2]. I'm in favor of the one with the date, because if we make alphabetical order the default order, some here will ask to be able to sort them by chronological order. Ksempac (talk) 16:25, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
- I, too, like the new table, but what is this "vote" of which you speak? Nutiketaiel (talk) 11:27, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
- I agree with making this new table for the barnstars (including the date of creation), anyone else vote in favour? - ☩Damërung ☩. -- 21:44, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
This looks horrid. K.I.S.S. looks much better. And I do not think the short forms should be used in the code example, they are very distracting. –xenotalk 15:13, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
--Epeefleche (talk) 02:55, 20 October 2009 (UTC)===Shortcut name columns orginization===
Image | What to type | Title and description | Date created and editors |
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{{subst:Barn|message ~~~~}} | Original Barnstar
This barnstar, the first on Wikipedia, is given to recognize particularly fine contributions to Wikipedia, to let people know that their hard work is seen and appreciated. |
2003 12 19 Created by: Martin Harper
Modified by: 2004 02 17 Silsor |
I just reduced the number of columns to 5 (as explained above), and can lower it to 4 (combining date created and editors who were involved into one column). Basically just adding one colomn extra for date.
I think the shortcut makes sense. No one types: Wikipedia:No Personal Attacks they type WP:NPA. I created easy to remember shortcuts for the 60+ barnstars on the list.
I think the current organization should be changed, (thus making the dates created sortable makes sense) as editors explained above. It was okay to have the list chronological when there were less than 20 barnstars, now there are over 60, I think they should be reorganized, or at the least, maybe have 5 columns, with a category column added:
Image | What to type | Title and description | Date created and editors | Category |
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{{subst:Barn|message ~~~~}} | Original Barnstar
This barnstar, the first on Wikipedia, is given to recognize particularly fine contributions to Wikipedia, to let people know that their hard work is seen and appreciated. |
2003 12 19 Created by: Martin Harper
Modified by: 2004 02 17 Silsor |
Help |
- 4 columns looks much better than 5, IMO. With a 800-1000 pixel wide window the main text is far too squashed in the 5 column format. --ThaddeusB (talk) 22:54, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
- I also suppor the four column version. Nice work.--Epeefleche (talk) 02:55, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
- What purpose is served by the four column version? I think this is okay, if people object to the chronological listing, but they are already sorted by date by default, and the extra column—nay, columns—may provide some additional functionality, but it is functionality with no purpose that I can detect. And it just looks like crap. As xeno said a week ago, no sort-by-date column is unnecessary. For such a huge change, this has moved a bit too quickly, methinks. Do we actually have consensus on this yet? Unschool 02:44, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
- I do think we need consensus. - ☩Damërung ☩. -- 07:21, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
- Oh, yes we do. Making any change that sweeping needs consensus. Nutiketaiel (talk) 11:53, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
- I do think we need consensus. - ☩Damërung ☩. -- 07:21, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
Two peace barnstars
There's a peace barnstar in the general section, and another in the topical section. The two are different, but share the same name. SHould this be changed?
I suggest changing the general one form "Peace Barnstar" to "Diplomacy Barnstar", because:
1) The award is for resolving conflicts on Wikipedia 2) The barnstar itself is based off of the United Nations logo.
--Delta1989 (talk) 19:37, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
- Hmmm...two peace barnstars, I never noticed that.Abce2|This isnot a test 23:34, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
- Should I change the first Peace Barnstar to the Diplomacy Barnstar? I've noticed that the creating user was blocked, so I can't really get his permission. --Delta1989 (talk) 22:23, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
- Sounds good to me. Nutiketaiel (talk) 11:28, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
- Should I change the first Peace Barnstar to the Diplomacy Barnstar? I've noticed that the creating user was blocked, so I can't really get his permission. --Delta1989 (talk) 22:23, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
This is probably not the right place to report but...
...Jakkinx (talk · contribs) seems to be awarding himself Barnstars and undeserved service awards. Check his awards page, apparently unregistered users have signed their names on the Barnstars. I can find no evidence of people giving him them in his talk page. Well, Mr. Oddball (talk · contribs) and Thrillerx (talk · contribs) have. But that's only two. He also has almost every service award, and recently gave me a plutonium one, Lord Spongefrog, (I am the Czar of all Russias!) 10:10, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
- There's really nothing we can do. He can put whatever he wants on his userpage. He obviously has no integrity if he really is awarding himself Barnstars or unearned service awards, but they're all unofficial so the Barnstar Police aren't going to go breaking down his door or anything. Nutiketaiel (talk) 13:46, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
- Fair enough. That's what I expected, but never mind. What I was really concerned about was the sort of signature forgery of non-existent users, but I suppose that doesn't matter too much, Lord Spongefrog, (I am the Czar of all Russias!) 15:02, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
- Acually, I don't think you can do that.Abce2|This isnot a test 23:23, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
- Well, you certainly can't do it in a Wikipedia discussion or a request for comment or admin choosing scrum or the like, but I doubt anyone cares about it on a user page for something like this. I could be wrong, though. If the use of false usernames is what concerns you, try asking at the Admin noticeboard. This is the sort of thing that Admins are supposed to be doing, after all (when they're not causing problems and nonsense for regular Wikipedians or lording it over people). They should be able to tell you whether a policy is being violated and whether action needs to be taken. I don't think it is since it is a user page, but I (reluctantly) admit that they would know better than me. Nutiketaiel (talk) 13:20, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
- Acually, I don't think you can do that.Abce2|This isnot a test 23:23, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
- Fair enough. That's what I expected, but never mind. What I was really concerned about was the sort of signature forgery of non-existent users, but I suppose that doesn't matter too much, Lord Spongefrog, (I am the Czar of all Russias!) 15:02, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
Master editor star
How about changing the much fluorescence of the master editor stars (service awards) for a halo of light. The stars could be like the platinum star or a white star, but with a more elegant halo of light instead of the sunshine. - ☩Damërung ☩. -- 19:01, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
Chess barnstar
What you really need is a barnstar for chess. 23191Pa (talk) 13:26, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
- Do you mean a barnstar for good edits to chess related articles? If so, this should fall under the toys and games barnstar. - Kingpin13 (talk) 13:30, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
- Kingpin, I'm okay with your suggestion, but I somehow suspect that Chess afficionados are not going to like their intellectual pursuit lumped in with "Toys". ;-) Unschool 14:37, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
- Maybe not, but "games" certainly is accurate. Nutiketaiel (talk) 14:55, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
- Kingpin, I'm okay with your suggestion, but I somehow suspect that Chess afficionados are not going to like their intellectual pursuit lumped in with "Toys". ;-) Unschool 14:37, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
Cool as a Cat
I thought I'd raise the issue of my Cool Cat Bstar for community perspective. It was recently removed on account of having a few other similar Bstars,[3] and several of them do work. However, I'm not sure it is a reason to remove mine and, personally, I'm not sure the cucumber award is quite as appealing (no offense to its maker). Thoughts? JaakobouChalk Talk 15:41, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
- First of all, I too dislike the Cucumber award; it just looks yuck to me. However, one thing that we have been trying to do as of late is prevent the introduction of clearly redundant BStars. While the cuke is ugly, and not even a barnstar, the Anti-Flame and Diplomacy Barnstars seem pretty clearly to cover the ground you are looking to seed. Unschool 00:26, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
- If we both agree on the "cuke", then perhaps it is time to let it go and replace it with a more agreeable one? Another option is to reconstruct the anti-flame and diplomacy ones into a related category and just mark down the category with the related icons onto the page. Thoughts/suggestion? JaakobouChalk Talk 03:54, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
- I wouldn't want to rush anyone, but I did spend some (fun-filled) time on this barnstar and I fully believe that there is room to have it featured. JaakobouChalk Talk 00:29, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
- If you're proud of the image, might there be another use for it? Take a look at this discussion from a while back, where an editor designed a BStar for one purpose but it actually got accepted for another very different purpose. Unschool 06:16, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
- I wouldn't want to rush anyone, but I did spend some (fun-filled) time on this barnstar and I fully believe that there is room to have it featured. JaakobouChalk Talk 00:29, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
- If we both agree on the "cuke", then perhaps it is time to let it go and replace it with a more agreeable one? Another option is to reconstruct the anti-flame and diplomacy ones into a related category and just mark down the category with the related icons onto the page. Thoughts/suggestion? JaakobouChalk Talk 03:54, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
Has anyone noticed this barnstar?
Just checking. Abce2|This isnot a test 20:29, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
- Nope. Looks kinda familiar though... Lord Spongefrog, (I am the Czar of all Russias!) 20:34, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
- Maybe it could be the Harry Potter Barnstar? Looks like that owl from Harry Potter, can't remember the name, Lord Spongefrog, (I am the Czar of all Russias!) 20:35, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
- A new user added it to the Barnstar list a couple weeks ago. It's the Barn owl Barnstar.Abce2|This isnot a test 20:43, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
- Sorry about the edit summary of mine. I forgot to type the rest.Abce2|This isnot a test 20:45, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
- Ah, right, I see what you mean now. But I do have to say, how often are we going to need a Barn-owl barnstar? I mean, there must be at most two Barn-owl specific related articles, if you get what I mean. Lord Spongefrog, (I am the Czar of all Russias!) 21:09, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
- I have removed it until there is consensus to put it back.Abce2|This isnot a test 21:48, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
- Definitely the correct call, Abce. (Though it is an attractive B-Star, IMHO.) Unschool 09:14, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
- I think I'll put a section on WP:Barnstar mentioning not to be barnstars without disscussing them.Abce2|This isnot a test 22:51, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
- Done. [[4]]Abce2|This isnot a test 22:54, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
- I think I'll put a section on WP:Barnstar mentioning not to be barnstars without disscussing them.Abce2|This isnot a test 22:51, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
- Definitely the correct call, Abce. (Though it is an attractive B-Star, IMHO.) Unschool 09:14, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
- I have removed it until there is consensus to put it back.Abce2|This isnot a test 21:48, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
- Ah, right, I see what you mean now. But I do have to say, how often are we going to need a Barn-owl barnstar? I mean, there must be at most two Barn-owl specific related articles, if you get what I mean. Lord Spongefrog, (I am the Czar of all Russias!) 21:09, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
- Sorry about the edit summary of mine. I forgot to type the rest.Abce2|This isnot a test 20:45, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
- A new user added it to the Barnstar list a couple weeks ago. It's the Barn owl Barnstar.Abce2|This isnot a test 20:43, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
- Maybe it could be the Harry Potter Barnstar? Looks like that owl from Harry Potter, can't remember the name, Lord Spongefrog, (I am the Czar of all Russias!) 20:35, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
Two New Barnstars
I propose to introduce an Architecture Barnstar and a Virology Barnstar, for personal observance of lack of having these two barnstars. Please correct me if they exist and I do not notice them. Я£ΙИӺΘЯСΣĐᴙᶕᵻᴎᵮᴓᴚᴐᶒᵯɘᴎᴛᶊ (talk) 21:38, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
- Try double checking the Wikiproject barnstars.Abce2|This isnot a test 21:48, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
- I doubled checked. I don't see anything about these specific barnstars. Я£ΙИӺΘЯСΣĐᴙᶕᵻᴎᵮᴓᴚᴐᶒᵯɘᴎᴛᶊ (talk) 14:35, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
Templates into sub-categories?
Is it OK to put barnstar templates into sub-categories of Category:Barnstar award templates instead of the main category? SharkD (talk) 07:31, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
- I suppose there's no problem with doing it, if you want to take the time to organize them in that manner, but is it really necessary? Nutiketaiel (talk) 13:24, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
- Damn. OK, after actually looking at Category:Barnstar award templates, I agree with you whole-heartedly, SharkD. That category is so huge it's pretty much useless as it is right now. I strongly support creating sub-categories for the barnstars as you suggest. What subcategories did you have in mind? Nutiketaiel (talk) 13:26, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
Requesting Uganda barnstar
Would one of you, who are better able to do such things, be interested in creating a barnstar for the use of Wikipedia:WikiProject Uganda? I would assume the choice for the ribbon would be either the colors of the flag or the crane from the Flag of Uganda. John Carter (talk) 19:21, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
- I'll try to come up with something, unless someone is already working on it. ≈ Chamal talk ¤ 06:19, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
- What do you think? ≈ Chamal talk ¤ 06:49, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
- Looks very good to me. What sort of procedure is there to follow to get it "approved", if there is one, or do we just go with it? John Carter (talk) 23:04, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
- Normally, we decide it here. The few people that visit this page sort of !vote on it, or in this case wikiproject Uganda can decide since it's for them. ≈ Chamal talk ¤ 05:29, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
- My suggestion would be to place it at the Ugandan Wikiproject as a donation. I can't imagine having us place a BStar for every country at WP:Barnstar. Unschool 07:18, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
- Normally, we decide it here. The few people that visit this page sort of !vote on it, or in this case wikiproject Uganda can decide since it's for them. ≈ Chamal talk ¤ 05:29, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
- Looks very good to me. What sort of procedure is there to follow to get it "approved", if there is one, or do we just go with it? John Carter (talk) 23:04, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
- What do you think? ≈ Chamal talk ¤ 06:49, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
Request for Newts
I would be very grateful if some of the denizens of this abode were to create three awards for Wikipedia:Newbie treatment at CSD I was thinking of a sockthemed barnstar for participants, a barnstar for those who treat our participants well and perhaps a newt themed non barnstar award for those who've been caught up in the process but tried to make amends. ϢereSpielChequers 19:22, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
My little kitty Sockcat pulled open a drawer and nestled into a warm bed of socks. As soon as I sort them out you may have material for that barnstar. Hamlet, Prince of Trollmarkbugs and goblins 15:56, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
Done. :)_ Hamlet, Prince of Trollmarkbugs and goblins 16:20, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
- Ta muchly your maj.
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Larvae File:Newt crop 113008.jpg
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Emperor Newt
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Crested newt
I think one or more of the above would suffice for the NEWT award for speedy tagging that has come to the attention of Wikipedia:Newbie treatment at CSD. ϢereSpielChequers 18:20, 5 November 2009 (UTC) I've turned Hamlet's image into a barnstar {{subst:The Righteous Sock Barnstar|your message here ~~~~}}
The Righteous Sock Barnstar | ||
Awarded to WikiProject Wikipedia Awards for meritorious socking at WP:Newbie treatment at CSD :) ϢereSpielChequers 19:33, 5 November 2009 (UTC) |
The life missing barnstar
What happened to this barnstar? I can´t find it here, and I thought it was here... perhaps..... - ☩Damërung ☩. -- 04:27, 5 November 2009 (UTC)