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''The Linguistic Barnstar'' may be awarded to those who make outstanding contributions to [[linguistics]]- and [[language]]-related articles and templates. |
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*This design requires some changes since the text is not clear, but the Chinese word on the bottom right corner means 'characters', which is thebasic building block of Chinese words. I therefore think that this barnstar is fairly appropiate. [[User:Kayau|Kayau]] ([[User talk:Kayau|talk]]) 13:39, 19 June 2009 (UTC) |
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==Proposed Biography Barnstar== |
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Color & Light barnstar
Template:Color and Light Barnstar
Awarded to users who make effort for color and light pages.
{{Color and Light Barnstar|message ~~~~
--Betax(Talk|Sandbox|User:Betax on Wikimedia Incubator])
Upgrading the Purple Star
I've created an easy to use subst template for the popular Purple Star award: Template:ThePurpleStar. As it is one of the most popular PUAs (who created it, btw?), perhaps we should move it Wikipedia:Other awards? And while on this topic, I fail to see the need for two pages: why not merge PUA into OA? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 20:37, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
Another Barnstar
Ikip (talk) 19:28, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
Cool barnstar! 'The Ninjalemming'' 19:45, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
- What is it supposed to be for? Nutiketaiel (talk) 20:51, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
- I'd say it could be a new style of tirelss contributer barnstar due to it's movement. 'The Ninjalemming'' 20:16, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
- Well, it is a nice image, but what's wrong with the current tireless contributor barnstar? Nutiketaiel (talk) 20:26, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
- I don't know, maybe it is for something else, I'll ask him. 'The Ninjalemming'' 21:23, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
- I also thought it appeared to be a compass, but I had the idea of the watch thing in my head so I kind of just said it. If it is a compass then I could go in as a geography barnstar. As I don't know of any geographical related barnstars I will go and check them out and try and think what this could be for. 'The Ninjalemming'' 19:45, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
maybe it could replace the image for {{Guidance Barnstar}}. Although the background may need sorting out - Kingpin13 (talk) 12:44, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
I've created a new award called the Four Award. Feedback, suggestions, comments, ideas, etc. are welcome. Thought it may seem somewhat similar to The Triple Crown Awards at a first glance, it is actually quite different. Also, it would be great if someone could create an award image with the same design as the current but as a svg with transparent background (I've tried but couldn't quite figure out how to do it correctly). ♠TomasBat 16:37, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
- The images might cause confusion. For example the image you use to represent a featured article looks more like File:Symbol start-class.svg. Rambo's Revenge (talk) 18:44, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
- I wanted to make them all circular symbols for consistency. I Hadn't noticed the similarity (thanks for pointing it out)... ♠TomasBat 18:51, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
- I like the idea, but the name of the award isn't very intuitive (you don't know what it's about unless you read the article criteria; this isn't a huge deal) and the design isn't too amazing (no offense). —Eustress talk 20:34, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
- I've never been too good at design. Any alternate design(s) totally welcome. As for the name, I considered stuff like "Article Evolution Award" but wasn't very sure, so I just left it as "Four Award" (it sort of rhymes). Any alternate name(s) totally welcome. Hopefully better designs and names can be proposed and agreed upon :) ♠TomasBat 20:57, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
- If you have anything specific in mind, you might consult Wikipedia:Graphic Lab/Image workshop. —Eustress talk 21:06, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
- Nice design! I support this award.Smallman12q (talk) 20:53, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
- If you have anything specific in mind, you might consult Wikipedia:Graphic Lab/Image workshop. —Eustress talk 21:06, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
- I've never been too good at design. Any alternate design(s) totally welcome. As for the name, I considered stuff like "Article Evolution Award" but wasn't very sure, so I just left it as "Four Award" (it sort of rhymes). Any alternate name(s) totally welcome. Hopefully better designs and names can be proposed and agreed upon :) ♠TomasBat 20:57, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
Negative barnstars
Could we make a barnstar that is 'awarded' to imbeciles/vandals, like some sort of warning or such? It would be pretty cool. Or if not, could we make a Pointless Barnstar, that can be awarded for no reason at all? Acr99 (talk) 17:55, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
- Absolutely not. A negative Barnstar would be biting, feeding the trolls and attacking, not to mention just plain rude and uncivil, and would likely be used to violate WP:AGF. If you want to warn someone about misconduct, use an appropriate template. Nutiketaiel (talk) 20:25, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
- Completely against the aims of Wikipedia:WikiProject Wikipedia Awards. —Eustress talk 20:35, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
Why say thank-you?! They gave your idea a negative response! --Username (talk) 12:07, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
- First because it is polite to do so, and second because he came to agree with us by the end of the conversation and was thanking us for pointing some things out to him. Why wouldn't he say "thank you," Spongefrog? Nutiketaiel (talk) 13:09, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
Wikipedia Hoax Finder Barnstar
There should be a barnstar to award editors who find or prove an article is a hoax. (Please let me know if there already is one).Smallman12q (talk) 21:00, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
- I don't think there is one but bearing (stupid lack of spell checker) in mind that if an article is not true it will be deleted any way; as untrue things are generally not reference very well, with false stuff or just not at all. I'm not saying it is a bad idea, just it will be many a year before some one gets one. -) (and again, one eyed Jack returns; this is becoming a tradition of mine =))-whoa that looks double chinish 'The Ninjalemming'' 18:04, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
- Well if you were to find a sneaky form of vandalism i think this would apply Ottawa4ever (talk) 17:40, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
Just so you all know File:Outspokenbarnstars.png doesn't have licensing information, and I've tagged it as such. I'm not an expert when it comes to image copyrights, so if someone here wants to take a look and apply the correct license, that would be great. Thanks! –Drilnoth (T • C) 22:58, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
Updated Barnstar images
Some thoughts . . . .
- Regarding the above MOTD Barnstars—there may be no BStar more in need of a new image than the MOTD BStar. But I agree with Nutiketaiel, while these are much higher quality images, they don't jump out and say MOTD to me.
- Regarding the new images that User:download has provided. The images are very good. In particular, the Cleanup Barnstar has been cleaned up to such an extent that I am hesitant to continue with my next comments. Okay, now I've hesitated, and will continue nonetheless. download, I have no problems with any of the changes you've made to these images. But you should realize that if you're going to actually change the image (as opposed to just sharpening up the image that already exists), some editors are going to expect you to run it by the others on this talk page (just as Maen. K. A. has done above with the MOTD BStars). Yeah, I know about BOLD, and I'm really with you on your changes, but the Tech one, where you moved the light bulb, might bother some long-timers.
For the record, I endorse the changes that download has made, but if anyone else wants to see, here's the dif. Unschool 05:58, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
- I also have no problem with any of the changes (though I can't see any difference between his Userpage Shield and mine, and I don't think that adding a "transparent alpha layer" qualifies as "image design," so I clarified that point). Still, it would have been nice for the community to have been consulted before existing Barnstars were changed. Nutiketaiel (talk) 14:37, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
- Oops! I apologize; I thought the images could be changed by anyone. I'll remove the "image design" parts that I added immediately; I'm glad you like them though. -download | sign! 17:43, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
- Oh, the images can be changed by anyone, and the change you made to the Userpage Barnstar is not something that needed to be brought here, since you didn't alter the design by adding something transparent (though one of these days someone is going to have to explain to me what a "Transparent Alpha Layer" is). It is just polite to discuss the proposed changes on the talk page before you change the actual design of a Barnstar, as with the Technology Barnstar. For the record, I think all your changes were big improvements and I support all of them. I'd even give you a Barnstar for them, though I see on your talk page that someone already beat me to the punch. :-) Nutiketaiel (talk) 18:24, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
- Well, a transparent alpha layer is a transparency; basically, I changed your white background to a transparency so it doesn't look chopped off when used. You can see the difference in File:Choco chip cookie.jpg and File:Choco chip cookie.png; the PNG version has a transparency. :) -download | sign! 23:02, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
- So that's what those funny grey checkerboards behind the images mean. Thanks for the explanation! Nutiketaiel (talk) 15:50, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
- Well, a transparent alpha layer is a transparency; basically, I changed your white background to a transparency so it doesn't look chopped off when used. You can see the difference in File:Choco chip cookie.jpg and File:Choco chip cookie.png; the PNG version has a transparency. :) -download | sign! 23:02, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
- Oh, the images can be changed by anyone, and the change you made to the Userpage Barnstar is not something that needed to be brought here, since you didn't alter the design by adding something transparent (though one of these days someone is going to have to explain to me what a "Transparent Alpha Layer" is). It is just polite to discuss the proposed changes on the talk page before you change the actual design of a Barnstar, as with the Technology Barnstar. For the record, I think all your changes were big improvements and I support all of them. I'd even give you a Barnstar for them, though I see on your talk page that someone already beat me to the punch. :-) Nutiketaiel (talk) 18:24, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
- Oops! I apologize; I thought the images could be changed by anyone. I'll remove the "image design" parts that I added immediately; I'm glad you like them though. -download | sign! 17:43, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
Technology Barnstar
I've redone the Technology Barnstar. I personally like the new lightbulb, but if there are any objections about the lightbulb's positioning, I'd be glad to revert or move the lightbulb. -download | sign! 17:47, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
- I like the new version. It is a crisper image and I think the positioning is an improvement, as (to my eye) it offers more emphasis to the Barnstar and less to the lightbulb. Nutiketaiel (talk) 18:28, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
- Like I said, I like it too. I was only making a point of ettiquette, which Nutiketaiel appears to agree with as well. Unschool 07:30, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
New Page Patrol award
Hi, do we currently have an award for good work in patroling new pages? If not is it okay to make one? If we do could you tell me where it is? Cheers - Kingpin13 (talk) 07:58, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
- That's not bad looking. Nutiketaiel (talk) 11:47, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks. Just something I threw together in Corel PHOTO-PAINT. Still, I'll add this to the page (if I can figure out how ;) ). If someone can do a better picture, please do - Kingpin13 (talk) 06:56, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
Off-wiki barnstars
I received barnstars for my contributions outside of Wikipedia (see the history of User:Johnny Au/Barnstars). I reworked them to be relevant to Wikipedia. What should I do with them? Should there be a barnstar for off-wiki contributions, such as giving a university class a funny but relevant remark of course material? Thank you. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 05:44, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
The Space Barnstar
I have, for the moment removed the following entry from WP:BS, in order to have discussion on the matter here.
This the image, and it came with the following description:
The Space Barnstar may be awarded to those who make outstanding contributions to spaceflight articles, including unmanned & manned space missions, launch vehicles and spacecraft.
Now I actually think that this is an excellent topic for a BStar (though I think that there's a slight mismatch between the name and the description). My question with it regards its appearance. Doe this not mark a really radical departure from the design, or form, of BStars? I think that the purpose can be served by a better design. As there was no consult on this, I felt free to remove it and have it reviewed on this page. Unschool 21:06, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
- I've left a message for the contributing editor on his talk page, encouraging him to come here and receive some thoughts from other editors. Unschool 21:15, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
- ...and here I am! Apologies for bypassing the process, I wasn't aware of it (although the barnstar has, in fact, already been awarded to at least one parson...) - anyway, this is my suggestion for a barnstar of space-related matters, whether spaceflight or astronomy related. I felt the design was good as it integrates both the idea of a meteor (for astronomy) and the astronaut symbol for spaceflight. Colds7ream (talk) 22:05, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
- I like it, actually. I don't see a problem with deviating from the "standard" Barnstar format. As long as it fits in the templates, I think it works just fine. Nutiketaiel (talk) 11:17, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
- As there doesn't seem to be any problems with this, I felt free to move it back to the main listing. :-) Colds7ream (talk) 16:04, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
- I like it, actually. I don't see a problem with deviating from the "standard" Barnstar format. As long as it fits in the templates, I think it works just fine. Nutiketaiel (talk) 11:17, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
- ...and here I am! Apologies for bypassing the process, I wasn't aware of it (although the barnstar has, in fact, already been awarded to at least one parson...) - anyway, this is my suggestion for a barnstar of space-related matters, whether spaceflight or astronomy related. I felt the design was good as it integrates both the idea of a meteor (for astronomy) and the astronaut symbol for spaceflight. Colds7ream (talk) 22:05, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
- What about one or two other versions? --Rectilinium'♥' 00:45, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
- I am actually willing to create such a barnstar. But as it was Colds7reams idea to suggest a Space Barnstar, I'ld like to know if he is interested to submit one or two other versions himself, before I (or someone else) propose(s) another design. --Rectilinium'♥' 23:49, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
Clarification needed
Colds7ream, when you first posted it here, I made the comment I think that there's a slight mismatch between the name and the description, but I failed to explain myself. The description speaks exclusively of spaceflight matters, but the name implies a more general topic, including astronomy, early (pre-20th century and pre-space flight) theories on the nature of space and the universe, exobiology, even cosmology. You touch upon this in your description. If you suggest a barnstar for the more comprehensive topic of space in general, I'm totally okay with it, but your description would need to be altered, since at present it appears to be only dealing with spaceflight. Okay, I'm rambling, as I am espeically inclined to do with loud noises in the background while I am typing. Am I being clear? Unschool 02:17, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
Other versions
Because Colds7ream didnt suggest other versions yet, I've uploaded two new designs. And if you dont like these Barnstars... probably someone else can create a better one.
Space Barnstar 1a | Space Barnstar 1f | Space Barnstar 1h | Space Barnstar 1i | |||
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OR | OR | OR |
Space Barnstar 1c | Space Barnstar 1d | Space Barnstar 1e | Space Barnstar 1g | |||
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OR | OR | OR |
Space Barnstar 1l | Space Barnstar 1k | Space Barnstar 1j | Space Barnstar 1m | |||
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OR | OR | OR |
--Rectilinium'♥' 04:13, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
- I like 1c. The coloring is sufficiently different from the usual barnstar color, but the black lines of 1b are a bit too heavy in my opinion. Good work, Rectilinium. EVula // talk // ☯ // 10:56, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks EVula. I made a fourth version as you said that the lines/shadows of 1b are too dark. Regards --Rectilinium'♥' 11:57, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
- These are the sort of beautiful imagery that we have come to almost take from granted from Rectilinium. I think that 1d is the best of the lot. But I actually have a change to request. I couldn't tell at first that the image in the center was the space shuttle! I had to blow it up to see that. I think that, if the shuttle is going to be used, a side profile might be better than this view, and probably with the cargo bay closed. But here's another thought. Is using the shuttle too Amero-centric? I mean, not only is the shuttle being retired next year, this is a time when more nations are reaching into space. What about a more generic looking rocket? Unschool 20:13, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
- Hi Unschool. I looked for some other pictures of the space shuttle (one which shows the side profile and one with a closed cargo bay). I also added two versions with the new Ares-rocket (Orion), and I deleted version 1b. If there is something else I should change, just tell me. With kind regards --Rectilinium'♥' 05:35, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
- I don't know... do you guys think it might be too Amerocentric to use the space shuttle? What about an image of the International Space Station? Nutiketaiel (talk) 13:14, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
- Hi Nutiketaiel. Of course I can make another version with the ISS, but Im not sure if this looks good. It think, that the Space Station is such a "filigree" construction (not compact) that on the small Barnstar nobody could identify it as the ISS. Dont you think so? Anyway, I will upload another version this evening when Im back home. --Rectilinium'♥' 13:55, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
- No, don't go through the trouble, you're right, the ISS would look pretty screwed up on a Barnstar. It's not that big a deal, it was just a thought. Nutiketaiel (talk) 14:07, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
- Three new versions with the ISS. --Rectilinium'♥' 17:06, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
I love the designs except for the various space vehicles covering up the stars. I personally think having the cool stars with the planets is enough. Blue is my first choice, red is my second choice. --JBC3 (talk) 00:14, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
- Hi JBC3. The reason why I used those vehicles, is because the barnstar should be spaceflight and astronomy related. If I delete the shuttle/rocket/ISS, then it just looks like a astronomy barnstar. But if you would like, I can upload one picture without any spacecraft. --Rectilinium'♥' 07:31, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
Hey, you really made those ISS ones look good. I like all three of them, but I strongly support 1J. Nutiketaiel (talk) 19:32, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
- I still prefer 1i, because I like the idea of a rocket for this. But the ISS ones are also good, and I agree with Nutiketaiel that 1j is the best of the ISS versions. Unschool 11:03, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
- I prefer the ISS version because it is less Amerocentric. Think of it as this projects little contribution to the fight against systemic bias. Nutiketaiel (talk) 11:39, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
I've gone ahead and replaced the block image with 1j, as it appears to have been the consensus choice. Unschool 05:28, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
- Hi everyone, sorry for not paying attention to this recently - it's been exam time. :-( Just to say I love the new design - it's much better than my one! Hopefully with this image, and the updated description, this award will have a large number of recipients! :-) Colds7ream (talk) 09:52, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
Shooting star? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.104.132.41 (talk) 11:15, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
Userpage Barnstar
Hi everybody. I was asked, if I finally designed some new Barnstars (as I promised on 12 April 2009). To keep my word I made a new Userpage Barnstar and a Barnstar which could be used as a new Categorisation Barnstar. Now here is my suggestions for a new Userpage Barnstar:
I will try to make one ore two other versions, so you can choose. With kind regards --Rectilinium'♥' 02:10, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
Userpage barnstar | Userpage barnstar1a | Userpage barnstar1b | |||
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OR | OR |
- Oh, and if you dont like the design, then please tell me, and I will try to make something completely different...--Rectilinium'♥' 03:27, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
- Well, all three are very nice Barnstars (1b is my favorite), but to be honest, I kind of like the current userpage Barnstar. It is a nice and simple design, and I kind of like that. However, if everyone else supports changing it, I'll go along with the consensus. Nutiketaiel (talk) 11:25, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
- I think these are a significant upgrade over the current Userpage Barnstar; they represent the concept of a userpage much better. I prefer either #1 and #1a. To me, the shine on 1b sort of contradicts the rustic appearance of the background; I think that the other stars match the background much better. Unschool 11:54, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
- By the way: There has already been a discussion about the Userpage Barnstar here: Userpage Barnstar --Rectilinium'♥' 00:50, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
- I still think the current userpage barnstar is worth keeping. Nutiketaiel (talk) 11:35, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
- I like the current barnstar just fine, but of the three new ones would prefer 1a. The thing about the proposed ones that I just don't care for (no offense to the artist) is that they look like historical documents, which doesn't give me the impression of a user page at all. --JBC3 (talk) 00:07, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
- I strongly dislike the current userpage BStar, and greatly prefer all of these, as I have stated. But JBC's comment is accurate; they do look like historic documents. That doesn't bother me, but I do agree that BStars should appear to reflect their subject. So that brings up the question (for JBC and anyone else), what would accurately convey the notion of a userpage? The current one certainly does not. What sort of thing should it look like? Unschool 00:47, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
- The current one very much does accurately convey the notion of a userpage. It's kind of hard to mistake it for anything else, actually. I very much prefer it to any of these proposed changes, as it is very clear at a glance what the current one is for. Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:50, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
- Brainstorming what would convey a userpage: userboxes with a star in the foreground; a dwelling (house) with a barnstar prominently displayed; a human figure (picture the yellow AOL dude, without the copyright infringement) with a star in the foreground or worn by it. That's all my little brain could come up with so far. Definitely open to new ideas on this one. --JBC3 (talk) 22:53, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
- Nutiketaiel, I don't see what you're saying when you say it conveys the notion of a userpage. How? I don't get it.
- JBC, I see the dwelling idea--my userpage is my "home", right? I also love the AOL guy idea, but I also think you're right; copyright infringement would be tough to get around. Anyway, your ideas are good, certanly better than anything I can come up with. Unschool 06:57, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
- Hi everybody :) just here for a short time. I was reading your suggestions and I will try to make a redesign soon ;). With kind regards --Rectilinium'♥' 15:29, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
Categorisation Barnstar (?)
And here is the other design, which could be used as a new Categorisation Barnstar (I made three slightly different versions, but I can also create a completely different Barnstar):
Categorisation barnstar1 | Categorisation barnstar1b | Categorisation barnstar1c | ||
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OR | OR |
--Rectilinium'♥' 02:18, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
- Very nice looking work. I offer my support for 1c. I think it is something of an improvement over the current Barnstar. Nutiketaiel (talk) 11:22, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
- These are, graphically speaking, much nicer than the current one. Nevertheless, I'm totally neutral on this one, both on the choices and the need for change itself. I guess I don't know enough about what editors do who work with categorization to understand why the current BStar looks like it does or why these might represent it better. I'm just unable to offer any helpful comments. Unschool 11:57, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
- The idea behind this design was: people that categorize uncategorized articles help to make "an entity out of seperate pieces" (as long as an article isnt categorized readers cant find sets of articles on related topics) - thats why I choosed a puzzle. But if you think the old design was better, we can leave it.
- If someone would like to have another Barnstar renewed, then please tell me, and I'll try to design it. With kind regards --Rectilinium'♥' 18:30, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
I have replaced the old image with 1b, which appears to have been the consensus choice.Unschool 05:29, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
The Star of JD Award for Excellence in Vandal Fighting.
Considering that RickK is long gone, and jdelanoy is a legend of William Wallace proportions, I think it is only fair that we phase out the RickK barnstar and replace with a JD one. [The Idea was originally floated by Synergy, I do not take the credit for it]. Any thoughts? Lucifer (Talk) 03:08, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
- Well, I don't know who RickK was, and I don't know who jdelanoy is, and frankly I don't care. I have never liked that the vandal fighting barnstar glorifies one individual. Now that someone has brought it up, I say we rename the barnstar to its original name, "The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar." Nutiketaiel (talk) 11:14, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
- I know that some of the old veterans who have been around a lot longer than us may think it's heresy, but I totally agree with Nutiketaiel on this one. I totally don't get having a BStar glorify one individual, when thousands of others have surely fought much more vandalism (albeit with tools) than he ever did. I support this idea of reverting to the old name, but I think we should wait a long time to give some of the older vets (I've only been here since 2005) get a chance to speak up, and perhaps give them a chance to explain why we're wrong. Unschool 12:02, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
- I am going to put a notification about this discussion on some of the talk pages of the anti-vandalism projects. Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:06, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
- This came up somewhere, possibly in a London meetup. Apparently the Rickk award was originally meant to be given to ahem "over enthusiastic but well meaning efforts" in anti vandalism. Rollbacking an IP's blanking so as to restore the spam or porn that they'd removed from an article, etc. Nowadays no-one knows whether a Rickk barnstar has been awarded sarcastically or sincerely or whether the recipient feels praised or rebuked. So yes a new Barnstar would be a good idea. I have no objection to naming Barnstars after deceased wikipedians, though I don't think we should name barnstars after living people, but perhaps irrationally I have no problem with naming them after bots . Howabout Cluebot's order of the crossed squeegees, and for people who already have that, the scraper and steam cleaner? ϢereSpielChequers 13:16, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
- I am going to put a notification about this discussion on some of the talk pages of the anti-vandalism projects. Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:06, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
- I know that some of the old veterans who have been around a lot longer than us may think it's heresy, but I totally agree with Nutiketaiel on this one. I totally don't get having a BStar glorify one individual, when thousands of others have surely fought much more vandalism (albeit with tools) than he ever did. I support this idea of reverting to the old name, but I think we should wait a long time to give some of the older vets (I've only been here since 2005) get a chance to speak up, and perhaps give them a chance to explain why we're wrong. Unschool 12:02, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
- Isn't the purpose of this meant to be: "I'm a vandal fighter, not a window cleaner"? Simply south (talk) 17:22, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
- I don't have a problem with the design of the Barnstar as it currently stands, I just think the name needs to be changed to "The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar" to eliminate the reference to a specific Wikipedian, especially given WereSpielChequers' revelation that it was named the "RickK" award satirically in the first place. Nutiketaiel (talk) 19:20, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
- Wow, if what WSC says is true, I'm shocked. I never have had a clue that this was sarcastic, and if so, it seems to be rather non- or even anti-Wikipedian in nature to have it listed here.
- I'm still with Nutiketaiel on this. Keep the design (which is very appropriate), but delete the personalization. Unschool 01:59, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
- I don't have a problem with the design of the Barnstar as it currently stands, I just think the name needs to be changed to "The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar" to eliminate the reference to a specific Wikipedian, especially given WereSpielChequers' revelation that it was named the "RickK" award satirically in the first place. Nutiketaiel (talk) 19:20, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
- Isn't the purpose of this meant to be: "I'm a vandal fighter, not a window cleaner"? Simply south (talk) 17:22, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
- I agree, the name should not glorify or memorialize an individual. There are so many tireless editors that have worked and presently work to keep Wikipedia a vandalism free zone that it smacks in the face of their hard work to politicize the award by appending an editor's name to it. "The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar" is the ideal name. --JBC3 (talk) 03:37, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
OK, consensus seems to be developing pretty rapidly here. I propose that we change the template on the WP:BARN page to Template:The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar, and remove "Renamed on July 24, 2005 in appreciation of the efforts of former Wikipedian RickK in fighting vandalism." from the description, along with the other references to the old name. We should, however, still leave the RickK template (Template:The RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar) in existance, so traditionalists can use it if they wish. Does that work for everybody? Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:40, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
- I'm going to leave this up over the weekend just to give a little more time for people to voice their opinions, and if there are no significant objections I'll make the change come Monday. Nutiketaiel (talk) 14:27, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
- Support proposal, for reasons I stated above. --JBC3 (talk) 23:13, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
- Support Nutiketaiel's proposal. Unschool 02:18, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
- Support Nutiketaiel's proposal. ϢereSpielChequers 07:28, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
- Agree with Nutiketaiel's proposal, otherwise we have to change the BS when jdelanoy is gone. How about we change the Anti-Vandalism barnstar to accept parameters? For example
{{subst:The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar|j.delanoy}}
will call it "The j.delanoy Anti-Vandalism Barnstar" but without them it just outputs "The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar", thus both satisfying both sides without having to create multiple templates. Regards SoWhy 11:54, 3 May 2009 (UTC) - Agreed that we should genericize the anti-vandalism barnstar. EVula // talk // ☯ // 12:21, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
- I don't know whether anyone has asked J.Delanoy what he or she thinks of this idea, but one problem in naming an award after a still active Wikipedian is that any award of it is in a sense in their name. Whilst in the case of a deceased wikipedian any award is partially in memory of them. That is one reason why I would be happy to have awards named after dead Wikipedians, but not after living ones. At the moment the vast majority of people who've ever edited Wikipedia are probably still alive, but I suspect that very few of our Human editors will survive to the end of the century, naming barnstars after dead Wikipedians strikes me as a nice way to commemorate them. ϢereSpielChequers 12:42, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
OK, I have changed the RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar to the Anti-Vandalism Barnstar per the above consensus. If anybody wants to add the RickK Star to personal user awards or somewhere similiar so it is still available for old-school users who want to continue with it, I would have no objection. The template still exists. Nutiketaiel (talk) 13:47, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
I can has lolcat barnstar?
Wants lolcat barnstar. Thinc gud idea. Mebbe can replaz Rickk barnstar as sumwot funi aweird for dubyus acheevemint. John Carter (talk) 17:25, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
What?--Username (talk) 12:09, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
- They're using Lolspeak. It's a moderately popular recent internet meme involving humorously doctored images of cats (and sometimes walruses with buckets). Pay it no mind. Nutiketaiel (talk) 13:38, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. --Spongefrog (talk) 19:50, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
Question
Who makes barnstars? Can you make your own? Or do you have to request one? Or is this a question for the HelpDesk? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Spongefrog (talk • contribs)
- Everyone can make a barnstar but usually it's customary to propose a new barnstar here first because there might already be an award to cover the proposed reasons for it. Regards SoWhy 12:13, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
Good good. I propose the "Barnstar of Barnstar Giving". --Username (talk) 12:17, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
- That would just encourage people to give out barnstars "en masse", thus making them less valuable for the receiving users. We already got The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar to award those who are extra kind without being asked to which would cover those who give out barnstars to deserving users as well. Regards SoWhy 12:28, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
- Agreed, a Barnstar of Barnstar Giving would be counter-productive. Nutiketaiel (talk) 13:22, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
Aaargh, that hurts my head. But fair enough. It was sort of 76.4% just to get my edit count up by editing wherever possible. --Spongefrog (talk) 19:48, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
- Wow. Sounds like someone has a case of editcountitis. You'll want to get that checked out by a qualified medical professional. Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:47, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
I know! It's a horrible problem! I read the article but it gives no proffesional help. The only reason I wrote this was to get my count up. I make separate edits, to make a comment and sign it! --Spongefrog (talk) 19:19, 8 May 2009 (UTC) see!
No, That diagnosis is incorrect. I am obssesed with my edit average per day, actually.--Spongefrog (talk) 20:27, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
Renewal of the Admins Barnstars
Hi everybody :). I was asked by another user, if I would like to create a new Admin Barnstar. As it is somewhat a delicate affair to renew such a traditional barnstar, I tried not to change it completely. I finally created an almost identical barnstar. The big difference: the quality.
Admin Barnstar 1a | Admin Barnstar 1e | Admin Barnstar 1c | |||
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OR | OR |
Admin Barnstar 1b | Admin Barnstar 1d | ||
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OR |
Ok then... the debate is opened ;)... --Rectilinium'♥' 11:05, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
- I think it's important to note that the person who asked Rectilinium to make this new Admin Barnstar was User:SoWhy, the original creator of the Admin BStar.Unschool 11:12, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) Nice work. I'd go with 1a or 1c, which look very nice. On the details, maybe the broom needs some visible bristles (like File:Admin mop.PNG has), looks like a rag on a stick somehow. To me. But I shouldn't criticize^^ SoWhy 11:22, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
- I support 1c, though I also agree with SoWhy's suggestion. Nutiketaiel (talk) 11:37, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
- Well, actually, since it is a mop, and not a broom, I think that the word you're looking for is "strand", not "bristle". And you're right, the original version had more visible strands. But if you pull a close-up of Rectilinium's versions, you'll see the individual strands.
- I also like 1a and 1c, with a slight preference for 1c, which retains the b/w color of the mop, and does a better job of showing the individual mop strands. Unschool 11:38, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
- I support 1c, though I also agree with SoWhy's suggestion. Nutiketaiel (talk) 11:37, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
- Hi :)... tried to improve it a bit. Better or worse now? --Rectilinium'♥' 12:20, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
- I still prefer 1c; in part this is because of the color. Years ago, I spent a lot of time getting paid to use a mop, and the color of 1c just looks more like the real thing, I think. Plus, to me, the yellowish color of the mop strands in 1a make it look like broomstraw. However, my feelings are not strong on this matter, and I think that a lot of deference needs to be given to SoWhy's opinion, as SW was the one who first created this BStar that Rect is improving. I've said my piece; I'm okay with whichever you all decide upon. Thanks, Rect! Unschool 02:09, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
- Ok then, I hope Im not causing confusion by uploading another version. I tried to make one more barntars because: I tried to make a pic with a black/white mop, but that has the same lighting conditions and contrasts like 1a. Not sure if this one is ok. --Rectilinium'♥' 07:23, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
- (←) Just because Rectilinium does a great job improving my old version, it's still not my decision. When I created it, it became the community's barnstar, so the decision is theirs. I prefer 1a but I do not mind 1c or 1e either (rather 1e though, it has better lighting imho). Regards SoWhy 07:57, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
- 1e works for me. Nutiketaiel (talk) 11:34, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
- I was asked by SoWhy to re-upload version 1e as File:Admin Barnstar.png so it overwrites the previous one and is still linked to all pages. Thats what I did. If you you think it was to early to make the upload, please feel free to revert the upload :). With kind regards --Rectilinium'♥' 09:16, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
New barnstar
The Music Barnstar
Check it out!
tsunamishadow (talk) 19:19, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
- Umm, there's no image or link here, buddy. Nutiketaiel (talk) 11:33, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
- The template is {{The Music Barnstar}}, but we do already have a music barnstar at {{Music Barnstar}} - Kingpin13 (talk) 14:51, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
- Ah, I see. To be honest, I favor keeping the original Barnstar ({{Music Barnstar}}). I like the image better, with the sheet music. Nutiketaiel (talk) 15:26, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
- I also favour that barnstar...but since its not the one I made I can't put it there. When I also checked on Wikipedia:Barnstars it wasn't there...which is why I decided to create this one. You can discuss at length about it if you wan't to. But I'm keeping mine. :D tsunamishadow (talk) 18:34, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
- The original is found at Wikipedia:Awards_by_WikiProject - Kingpin13 (talk) 18:39, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
- I also favour that barnstar...but since its not the one I made I can't put it there. When I also checked on Wikipedia:Barnstars it wasn't there...which is why I decided to create this one. You can discuss at length about it if you wan't to. But I'm keeping mine. :D tsunamishadow (talk) 18:34, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
- I have removed the well-intended usurper and placed the original award on the BS page. Unschool 05:51, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
Just a reminder
Anyone care to add to the discussions above on the Space Barnstar, the Categorization Barnstar, or the User Page Barnstar? I love what Rect has done with the Space and UserPage BStars, and would like a couple more comments before we adopt any of these. Unschool 02:16, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
Another question
How exactly do you make barnstars?--Spongefrog (talk) 19:20, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
- First create an image (like this one). Then a template (like this one). Then add it to the WP:BARN page (like this (only changing links name etc.). But it might be a good idea to suggest new barnstars on this page before doing that. If that doesn't make sense ask for me to clarify further and I'll attempt to do so :) - Kingpin13 (talk) 20:02, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
Okay. Um...how do you make an image and a template. Is there an article that tells you how to do this? How do questions on this page get responses so fast? --Spongefrog (talk) 20:16, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
- Because lots of users have it one their watchlist I guess. The two links above (Help:Upload & Help:Templates) should explain that - Kingpin13 (talk) 20:24, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
Cool. Thanks a lot. Bye. --Spongefrog (talk) 20:28, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
Hammer and sickle symbol
Greetings! I was just looking on this page and found something about what I wanted to ask a question. It is concerning this barnstar:
The Workers' Barnstar | ||
This user has shown great editing skills. She, or he has greatly improved articles related to Communism or Socialism. |
It is only logical, that editors, who do good work on the articles related to Communism or Socialism deserve to get an award like this barnstar and of course it is also in order to have a special barnstar about this topic (as every other).
My question is related to the Hammer and sickle symbol on the bottom of the image.
For those who are not exactly familiar with the circumstances: Hammer and sickle is a symbol of Communism, an extremist (left wing) ideology that was (and still is in some cases as North Korea for instance) accomplished in single-party totalitarian dictatorships, where denial of humar rights was/is on public order. I am from the Czech Republic, formely Czechoslovakia, a country that was occupied by Stalinist-Soviet troops for more than 40 years. And I can't belive that a symbol of terror that killed several members of my immediate family and millions of other people is used here in 2009 as an award. I find this barnstar very offensive against anyone, who lives in the affected counties - exactly as eagle atop swastika on a barnstar related to articles about national socialism would be offensive for a German or a Jew. Honestly said, I do not know how this kind of symbols are seen and treated in US, Australia and UK (where most of English Wikipedia editors are form), but in most of European regions, any extremist symbolism including Hammer and sickle or Hitler salute is strictly prohibited. - That would be the explanation of what does the symbol mean if you are not very familiar with this period of European history.
I've read some guidelines such as WP:CENS and WP:NOTCENSORED, but I did not find anything related to this. These policies is predominantly about articles, not any wikipedia community affairs.
I think the title "The Workers' Barnstar" is an appropriate practical joke related to socialist vocabulary. But "does Wikipedia need to glorify extremist symbolism (such as Hammer and sickle or Swastika) by using it as an award among the wikipedia community, which is supposed to be neutral?"
Thanks anyone who takes his/her time to answer. Cheers-- LYKANTROP ✉ 12:32, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
- While I appreciate possible offence, what other symbol would you use to represent communism and socialism that was instantly recognisable? As far as I know, the symbol is only banned in Hungary, Latvia and Lithuania. It just isn't seen as offensive in most Western cultures. OrangeDog (talk • edits) 21:57, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
Separate issue—the name itself
My biggest problem with this award is the name of the Barnstar. The "Worker's" Barnstar? That only works if you buy into the totally discredited notion that these Communist states were actually run on the behalf of the common, ordinary, working man and woman. That's what I find offensive. What about calling this the "Dictatorship of the Proletariat Barnstar"? Unschool 02:15, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
- I can accept the title. There's nothing wrong about the word "worker" itslef, and in this context I believe it is ment to be a joke. It is common to make fun of the communist terminology. What shocked me was the symbol in a context of an award. But to honour someone with hammer and sicke or swastika is obviously not offensive in countries where these symbols do not play a significant role in their history. So if it is allright for the others, I can deal with it.-- LYKANTROP ✉ 11:29, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
- I don't really see a problem with either the image or the name. Additionally, I don't think we should discount all the good that socialism can amount to just because of the excesses of Stalinist and Maoist regimes. Just because the revolutions were hijacked by dictators doesn't mean that the concept is completely invalid, or that the world should not continue gradual progression towards a peaceful transition to a more just and equitable society. Just my opinion, though; either way, I don't see any need to change the Barnstar, especially since the Hammer and Sickle still continue to be used as a symbol by various ctill extant communist parties around the world. Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:34, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
Titles
Is it possible/allowed to replace the title on a barnstar, so it looks like it is a new barnstar (even though it has the same image)? --Spongefrog (talk) 15:23, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
- You mean use the same Barnstar image on a totally different template? Nutiketaiel (talk) 17:37, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
Not exactly. But its OK I've figured it out. Thanks anyway. --Spongefrog (talk) 18:14, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
Multiple types of ribbons
Why are there so many different ribbons to choose from, AND there are still some awards without a ribbon at-all while some barnstars have 5 different ribbons. Is there anyway that one ribbon can be chosen to represent each award and leave it at that? Gaia Octavia Agrippa Talk | Sign 21:55, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
Star Trek barnstar
Just made it, but I didn't think I had to nominate it first, sorry. Made to be awarded to a user who had recently done the rounds of a lot of Star Trek articles to improve them through updating templates and other sundry tasks, I felt they deserved it. Alastairward (talk) 20:14, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
- There should be a space background and the USS Enterprise on it as well, or else it would look like a normal barnstar with the Star Trek insignia on it. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 03:30, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
- Which enterprise? I would prefer 1701 before refit. Oh, and awhile ago, I proposed a star wars one. What did anybody think of it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lukefan3 (talk • contribs) 19:30, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
- The one Alastairward put forward looks fine to me, especially since it is just under personal user awards. I encourage everyone to remember that, sometimes, people just want to make a barnstar and contribute it, not spend days designing it to our specifications. If you have a suggestion for improvement, sometimes it works to make it yourself. Nutiketaiel (talk) 18:42, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
- Which enterprise? I would prefer 1701 before refit. Oh, and awhile ago, I proposed a star wars one. What did anybody think of it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lukefan3 (talk • contribs) 19:30, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
An idea
A cruise ship | ||
Reason |
I've got lots of ideas.--Abce2|AccessDenied 04:25, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
- OK, what's a cruise ship for? Nutiketaiel (talk) 11:19, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
I was just testing out stuff. --Abce2|AccessDenied 11:52, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
- Oh, OK. May I suggest the sandbox for future test edits, to help avoid confusion. Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:17, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
No, not like that. I wasn't testing it here, I was just seeing if we needed anything like that. --Abce2|AccessDenied 12:19, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
Vandal wacking stick
What if the ball on the end was changed to a star? --Abce2|AccessDenied 14:55, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
- How would this be any different/better then our Anti-Vandalism award, which we already have enough variations of? - Kingpin13 (talk) 18:43, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
Hello?
Is anyone even on this Wikiproject anymore? --Abce2|AccessDenied 14:02, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
- Yes. Nutiketaiel (talk) 18:37, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
- Yes. Now what do you want. In fact, you can ask Nutiketaiel, I'm going to bed. Spongefrog (talk) 21:37, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
What!? This is a Wikiproject? Oh, I'm not a member thing, I'm changing my re. to "no". Spongefrog (talk) 21:38, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
Missing Barnstar (We're in a Level 6 Pandemic, people, so this one's important!)
I looked at all of the barnstars, and I saw that you forgot one, especially when we're in a pandemic period. Look at this page. I received one of the barnstars mentioned there and it is shown on my awards page, yet there is not even a speck of info relating to that barnstar. I suggest someone adds info in this project page, because I don't know how to make a barnstar. Wait a minute, I know how to make that one. Typingwestern015 (talk) 02:13, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
- It would probably be most appropriate under the personal user awards page, probably in the topic-related awards section. Nutiketaiel (talk) 11:54, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
Proposed Linguistic Barnstar
User:Rjanag would like to add the Linguistic barnstar to the topical barnstars. Submitting here for discussion. Is it needed? Is the design appropriate or desireable? Unschool 13:11, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
The Linguistic Barnstar
The Linguistic Barnstar may be awarded to those who make outstanding contributions to linguistics- and language-related articles and templates.
Comments
- This design requires some changes since the text is not clear, but the Chinese word on the bottom right corner means 'characters', which is thebasic building block of Chinese words. I therefore think that this barnstar is fairly appropiate. Kayau (talk) 13:39, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
Proposed Biography Barnstar
User:Kayau would like to add the Biography barnstar to the topical barnstars. Submitting here for discussion. Is it needed? Is the design appropriate or desireable? Unschool 13:11, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
The Biography Barnstar
The Biography Barnstar is awarded to editors with a considerable contribution to bipgraphic articles.