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:::::{{ec}}''Are'' you talking about my I-ban, [[User:Barkeep49|Barkeep49]]? Because I specified an exemption to it, as you have perhaps seen immediately above: TrangaBellam and Elinruby ''may'' discuss each other on the evidence page of the World War II and the history of Jews in Poland case. I did that because Elinruby had already started submitting evidence about TB when I placed the ban, and it would be awkward to stop them in the middle, or to prevent TB from replying. Is this ArbCom rephrasing/altering my I-ban (without informing me)? I frankly find the negatives a little hard to follow ({{tq|The ban ''exemption''... is ''suspended''}}). [[User:Bishonen|Bishonen]] | [[User talk:Bishonen|tålk]] 21:42, 18 March 2023 (UTC). |
:::::{{ec}}''Are'' you talking about my I-ban, [[User:Barkeep49|Barkeep49]]? Because I specified an exemption to it, as you have perhaps seen immediately above: TrangaBellam and Elinruby ''may'' discuss each other on the evidence page of the World War II and the history of Jews in Poland case. I did that because Elinruby had already started submitting evidence about TB when I placed the ban, and it would be awkward to stop them in the middle, or to prevent TB from replying. Is this ArbCom rephrasing/altering my I-ban (without informing me)? I frankly find the negatives a little hard to follow ({{tq|The ban ''exemption''... is ''suspended''}}). [[User:Bishonen|Bishonen]] | [[User talk:Bishonen|tålk]] 21:42, 18 March 2023 (UTC). |
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::::::Yes I am @[[User:Bishonen|Bishonen]] and I had seen that. That is what has been suspended. This was always intended as a temporary measure while we discussed how we wanted to handle the discussion at the case page. I think we are close to consensus about what we want to do but it being the weekend I am going to give it a bit more time for people to weigh in. [[User:Barkeep49|Barkeep49]] ([[User_talk:Barkeep49|talk]]) 21:46, 18 March 2023 (UTC) |
::::::Yes I am @[[User:Bishonen|Bishonen]] and I had seen that. That is what has been suspended. This was always intended as a temporary measure while we discussed how we wanted to handle the discussion at the case page. I think we are close to consensus about what we want to do but it being the weekend I am going to give it a bit more time for people to weigh in. [[User:Barkeep49|Barkeep49]] ([[User_talk:Barkeep49|talk]]) 21:46, 18 March 2023 (UTC) |
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:::::::You know something, {{u|Barkeep49}}? I think it's quite disrespectful to inform the two users but not me, not even in the form of a ping. I only saw it by accident. Under the circumstances, I suggest the committee takes over these bans. I'd rather not try to enforce them or follow them up while ArbCom tinkers with them. [[User:Bishonen|Bishonen]] | [[User talk:Bishonen|tålk]] 22:00, 18 March 2023 (UTC). |
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Notice of Arbitration Enforcement noticeboard discussion
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a report involving you at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement regarding a possible violation of an Arbitration Committee decision. The thread is TrangaBellam. Thank you.
- Damn - If I had made a program choose from a list of 500 diffs and attribute violations of wiki-policies at random, it would have come up with something better. TrangaBellam (talk) 10:12, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
- This worked. See a couple of threads later :-) TrangaBellam (talk) 13:35, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
Hi @TrangaBellam. I hope this is within the scope of permitted comments due to current AE discussions, and I have no horse in this race except for the high quality of related articles, so just sending a note that I appreciate your work in these difficult topics. Although my involvement is filtered primarily through the lens of art history (visual cultures of Stalinist Poland and in its aftermath, to be more specific), I am very aware of the historiographical challenges that come with the territory. Ppt91talk 20:09, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks, Ppt91. I appreciate this message.
- I have no particular expertise in your area but you appear to work in an understudied (?) domain, which is perhaps all the more exiciting? I have come across little decent work which is exclusively focused on the visual culture in Stalinist USSR which is in sharp contrast to the heavy scholarly interest in the early avant-garde.... TrangaBellam (talk) 13:50, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
- @TrangaBellam Absolutely. And yes, it's still very much understudied, primarily because the Cold War dichotomy of modernism-good/Socialist Realism-bad has made a lasting impact on scholarship. For now, I am trying to expand the existing biographies on en-wiki of some Eastern European avant-garde artists to cast more light on that period and hopefully move on to the actual Socialist Realism articles in due time. But please do feel free to keep me posted on your projects. Always happy to participate in engaging discussions related to the region. Ppt91talk 16:29, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
AE result
This is to let you know that I've closed the AE request about you. Of the evidence that related to you, some showed a pattern of edit warring and an unnecessarily combative approach to talk page discussions. While this does not rise to the level of requiring a formal sanction, I will be logging a warning as a record that this conduct has been discussed. My hope is that that is the end of the matter, but note that similar conduct comes to admins' attention in the future, it is very likely to result in a formal sanction. As a logged warning, this is appealable in accordance with the appeal procedure. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 19:04, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
- Meh - I can get this vacated at AN but that will be according this "logged warning" an undue weight. TrangaBellam (talk) 13:34, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
Notice that you are now subject to an arbitration enforcement sanction
The following sanction now applies to you:
You and Elinruby are indefinitely banned from interacting with each other. Please read WP:IBAN to see exactly what an interaction ban entails. Note that the ban applies to the whole of Wikipedia, even though it is described and logged as particularly relevant to Eastern Europe. Providing evidence in the current "History of Jews in Poland" arb case is an exemption from this ban; you may each provide evidence about the other there if you should wish.
You have been sanctioned in order to relieve both of you from unconstructive interaction, where both complain of harassment by the other, and to relieve other people from being distressed and interrupted by it.
This sanction is imposed in my capacity as an uninvolved administrator under the authority of the Arbitration Committee's decision at Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Eastern Europe#Final decision and, if applicable, the contentious topics procedure. This sanction has been recorded in the log of sanctions. If the sanction includes a ban, please read the banning policy to ensure you understand what this means. If you do not comply with this sanction, you may be blocked for an extended period, by way of enforcement of this sanction—and you may also be made subject to further sanctions.
You may appeal this sanction using the process described here. I recommend that you use the arbitration enforcement appeals template if you wish to submit an appeal to the arbitration enforcement noticeboard. You may also appeal directly to me (on my talk page), before or instead of appealing to the noticeboard. Even if you appeal this sanction, you remain bound by it until you are notified by an uninvolved administrator that the appeal has been successful. You are also free to contact me on my talk page if anything of the above is unclear to you. Bishonen | tålk 22:32, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
- Notice: The ban exemption to allow engaging in legitimate and necessary dispute resolution at the World War II and the history of Jews in Poland case is suspended until further notice. Outside of reporting a violation of this topic ban you should not directly or indirectly mention Elinruby; this includes talking about each other on an admin's talk page. Violations of this topic ban will result in escalating blocks. Barkeep49 (talk) 14:51, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks. TrangaBellam (talk) 15:01, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
- Barkeep49, by "topic ban", I suppose you mean "interaction ban"? -- Kautilya3 (talk) 21:09, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
- Correct. Barkeep49 (talk) 21:33, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
- (edit conflict)Are you talking about my I-ban, Barkeep49? Because I specified an exemption to it, as you have perhaps seen immediately above: TrangaBellam and Elinruby may discuss each other on the evidence page of the World War II and the history of Jews in Poland case. I did that because Elinruby had already started submitting evidence about TB when I placed the ban, and it would be awkward to stop them in the middle, or to prevent TB from replying. Is this ArbCom rephrasing/altering my I-ban (without informing me)? I frankly find the negatives a little hard to follow (
The ban exemption... is suspended
). Bishonen | tålk 21:42, 18 March 2023 (UTC).- Yes I am @Bishonen and I had seen that. That is what has been suspended. This was always intended as a temporary measure while we discussed how we wanted to handle the discussion at the case page. I think we are close to consensus about what we want to do but it being the weekend I am going to give it a bit more time for people to weigh in. Barkeep49 (talk) 21:46, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
- You know something, Barkeep49? I think it's quite disrespectful to inform the two users but not me, not even in the form of a ping. I only saw it by accident. Under the circumstances, I suggest the committee takes over these bans. I'd rather not try to enforce them or follow them up while ArbCom tinkers with them. Bishonen | tålk 22:00, 18 March 2023 (UTC).
- Yes I am @Bishonen and I had seen that. That is what has been suspended. This was always intended as a temporary measure while we discussed how we wanted to handle the discussion at the case page. I think we are close to consensus about what we want to do but it being the weekend I am going to give it a bit more time for people to weigh in. Barkeep49 (talk) 21:46, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
- (edit conflict)Are you talking about my I-ban, Barkeep49? Because I specified an exemption to it, as you have perhaps seen immediately above: TrangaBellam and Elinruby may discuss each other on the evidence page of the World War II and the history of Jews in Poland case. I did that because Elinruby had already started submitting evidence about TB when I placed the ban, and it would be awkward to stop them in the middle, or to prevent TB from replying. Is this ArbCom rephrasing/altering my I-ban (without informing me)? I frankly find the negatives a little hard to follow (
- Correct. Barkeep49 (talk) 21:33, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
- Barkeep49, by "topic ban", I suppose you mean "interaction ban"? -- Kautilya3 (talk) 21:09, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks. TrangaBellam (talk) 15:01, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
Sources
Hi @TrangaBellam! Unexpectedly busy start of the weekend, but will try to come back with something (hopefully) sensible by tomorrow. :-) Ppt91talk 17:32, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
- No worries :-) TrangaBellam (talk) 17:39, 18 March 2023 (UTC)