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*'''Nominator's rationale''' We do not categorize people by emigrating from a specific part of a country to a place outside that country. I know there is some literature that views this as a group, there is also even more literature that views Francophone Canadian emigrants to the United States as a group. I even have a friend who did not speak English until kindergarten, only French because he lived with his French Canadian immigrant grand parents. Yet [[:Category:Canaidan emigrants to the United States]] does not have any ethnic or related sub-divisions. Country A to Country B makes sense. Hong Kong has enough of a special status that it probably works. I have created [[:Category:Chinese emigrants to British Hong Kong]] to cover those who emigrated before 1997 and after what, 1847, except there was not really anything in Hong Kong to go to before 1847, and even if there was more there than I give credit for pre-1847 this would be like [[:Category:American emigrants to New York City]]. The key is that categories have to be defining to almost all of the people. We do not want to start sub-dividing all Chinese emigrants. That will be a mess.[[User:Johnpacklambert|John Pack Lambert]] ([[User talk:Johnpacklambert|talk]]) 16:18, 11 February 2021 (UTC) |
*'''Nominator's rationale''' We do not categorize people by emigrating from a specific part of a country to a place outside that country. I know there is some literature that views this as a group, there is also even more literature that views Francophone Canadian emigrants to the United States as a group. I even have a friend who did not speak English until kindergarten, only French because he lived with his French Canadian immigrant grand parents. Yet [[:Category:Canaidan emigrants to the United States]] does not have any ethnic or related sub-divisions. Country A to Country B makes sense. Hong Kong has enough of a special status that it probably works. I have created [[:Category:Chinese emigrants to British Hong Kong]] to cover those who emigrated before 1997 and after what, 1847, except there was not really anything in Hong Kong to go to before 1847, and even if there was more there than I give credit for pre-1847 this would be like [[:Category:American emigrants to New York City]]. The key is that categories have to be defining to almost all of the people. We do not want to start sub-dividing all Chinese emigrants. That will be a mess.[[User:Johnpacklambert|John Pack Lambert]] ([[User talk:Johnpacklambert|talk]]) 16:18, 11 February 2021 (UTC) |
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* '''Merge''' per nom, but I doubt that the merits of the target category are actually defining, as population movements between Hong Kong and mainland China are like me visiting my aunt. There may be a scope for ''refugees of the Chinese Civil War in Hong Kong'' though, as this seems defining. [[User:Place Clichy|Place Clichy]] ([[User talk:Place Clichy|talk]]) 16:43, 11 February 2021 (UTC) |
* '''Merge''' per nom, but I doubt that the merits of the target category are actually defining, as population movements between Hong Kong and mainland China are like me visiting my aunt. There may be a scope for ''refugees of the Chinese Civil War in Hong Kong'' though, as this seems defining. [[User:Place Clichy|Place Clichy]] ([[User talk:Place Clichy|talk]]) 16:43, 11 February 2021 (UTC) |
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* '''Merge''' per nom, and I have the same doubts about the target category. [[User:Marcocapelle|Marcocapelle]] ([[User talk:Marcocapelle|talk]]) 17:29, 11 February 2021 (UTC) |
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Revision as of 17:29, 11 February 2021
February 11
NEW NOMINATIONS
Category:Romani minorities
- Propose merging Category:Romani minorities to Category:Romani by country
- Nominator's rationale: This is a container for the main category for Romani topics, organized by country. Note that Romani people are never a majority in any country, therefore minorities is not necessary. Per WP:COPSEP, Category:Romani people by country is (and would still be) the category for individual biographical articles, and this the parent topic category. Place Clichy (talk) 17:18, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
Category:Ethnic minorities in Egypt
- Propose merging Category:Ethnic minorities in Egypt to Category:Ethnic groups in Egypt
- Nominator's rationale: By definition, every ethnic group other than the Arab majority group is a minority. Recent creation with just 2 articles: Romani people in Egypt and Saʿada and Murabtin. Place Clichy (talk) 16:39, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
Category:Church of England church buildings by city
- Nominator's rationale: All members are only in England. Conforms to the "by county" category which I have created and populated. Laurel Lodged (talk) 16:31, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
Shanghainese emigrants to Hong Kong
- Merge Category:Shanghainese emigrants to Hong Kong to Category:Chinese emigrants to Hong Kong
- Nominator's rationale We do not categorize people by emigrating from a specific part of a country to a place outside that country. I know there is some literature that views this as a group, there is also even more literature that views Francophone Canadian emigrants to the United States as a group. I even have a friend who did not speak English until kindergarten, only French because he lived with his French Canadian immigrant grand parents. Yet Category:Canaidan emigrants to the United States does not have any ethnic or related sub-divisions. Country A to Country B makes sense. Hong Kong has enough of a special status that it probably works. I have created Category:Chinese emigrants to British Hong Kong to cover those who emigrated before 1997 and after what, 1847, except there was not really anything in Hong Kong to go to before 1847, and even if there was more there than I give credit for pre-1847 this would be like Category:American emigrants to New York City. The key is that categories have to be defining to almost all of the people. We do not want to start sub-dividing all Chinese emigrants. That will be a mess.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:18, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
- Merge per nom, but I doubt that the merits of the target category are actually defining, as population movements between Hong Kong and mainland China are like me visiting my aunt. There may be a scope for refugees of the Chinese Civil War in Hong Kong though, as this seems defining. Place Clichy (talk) 16:43, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
- Merge per nom, and I have the same doubts about the target category. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:29, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
Category:Tweenies characters
- Propose deleting Category:Tweenies characters ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Tweenies characters ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: Useless category. All of the pages are redirects to the same article. Dominicmgm (talk) 16:07, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
Category:15th-century archaeologists
- Propose deleting Category:15th-century archaeologists ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:16th-century archaeologists ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:17th-century archaeologists ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:15th-century archaeologists ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: It's widely accepted that archaeology didn't exist until the late 18th/early 19th century, so these categories are anachronistic. "First archaeologist" is a loosely-applied term, but the usual suspects in reliable sources were all born in the 18th century or later: Johann Joachim Winckelmann (b. 1717), Giovanni Battista Belzoni (b. 1778), Christian Jürgensen Thomsen (b. 1788), Jens Jacob Asmussen Worsaae (b. 1821), Augustus Pitt Rivers (b. 1827). Maybe John Aubrey (b. 1626) at a stretch, but that would leave 17th-century archaeologists a category of one. Archaeology's non-scientific antecedent is antiquarianism and we have a separate category tree for antiquarians. – Joe (talk) 10:54, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete all are very clearly anachronistic categories. What these people were doing does not actual constitute archealogy as the term is currently understood.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:28, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
Category:People in computing
- Propose merging Category:People in computing to Category:Computer industry
- Nominator's rationale: Seem superfluous. One of it's entries, Category:People in software should probably stay somewhere under Category:Computer specialists. Kj cheetham (talk) 08:50, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose - perfectly reasonable to separate the people out from the non-people. It also places its subcats in Category:People in technology, so there should be a double upmerge if not kept. Oculi (talk) 09:59, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
Category:People associated with networking industry
- Propose deleting Category:People associated with networking industry ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:People associated with networking industry ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: as per WP:OCASSOC. Kj cheetham (talk) 08:45, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
- Keep and rename to Category:People in the computer networking industry (per Category:Computer networking), or Category:Computer networking people (per siblings in Category:Computer specialists by technology). This category is clearly for professionals in a subfield of computer science, not merely associated with the notion, so WP:OCASSOC does not apply. Place Clichy (talk) 16:47, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
Category:Wikidata autopatrollers
- Propose deleting Category:Wikidata autopatrollers ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Wikidata autopatrollers ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: Defunct user group, d:Wikidata:Autopatrollers is marked as historical. * Pppery * it has begun... 05:13, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
Category:Wikipedians who had Toolserver accounts
- Propose deleting Category:Wikipedians who had Toolserver accounts ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Wikipedians who had Toolserver accounts ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: How is this still a useful user category 6 and a half years after the toolserver was shut down? * Pppery * it has begun... 05:10, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
Category:Latinx to Category:Latino
- Propose renaming Category:Afro-Latinx artists to Category:Afro-Latino artists
- Propose renaming Category:Latinx visual artists to Category:Latino visual artists
- Propose renaming Category:Latinx painters to Category:Latino painters
- Propose renaming Category:Latinx printmakers to Category:Latino printmakers
- Nominator's rationale: Bring in line with parent article Hispanic and Latino Americans and other categories in Category:Hispanic and Latino American artists. --evrik (talk) 03:22, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
Category:Franklin Dam
- Propose renaming Category:Franklin Dam to Category:Franklin Dam controversy
- Nominator's rationale: The Franklin Dam does not and did not exist (it was never built). What we did have was the Franklin Dam controversy over whether it should be built. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:32, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
Category:City of Albany, Western Australia
- Propose renaming Category:City of Albany, Western Australia to Category:City of Albany
- Nominator's rationale: Bring in line with parent article City of Albany and other categories in Category:Local government areas of the Great Southern region of Western Australia. As far as I can see, there seems to be no other City of Albany, so disambiguation in the form of adding Western Australia seems unnecessary. Calistemon (talk) 01:26, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
- support there appears to be no specific titled article 'city of albany' in state of new york...[1] - JarrahTree 06:32, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
- Yes, it does: Albany, New York. Good Ol’factory (talk) 07:25, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
- - indeed - but the city itself does not have a specific titled article...as in City of Albany, New York is not specifying the city ? maybe the two cities need to be on a disambig page - even if the new york one has not got a main space title as such JarrahTree 07:55, 11 February 2021 (UTC)