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...and vice versa, Please take a look on that and edits of user {{user|Sobiepan}}. User pushing POV in many articles. [[User:Franek K.|Franek K.]] ([[User talk:Franek K.|talk]]) 22:49, 21 January 2014 (UTC) |
...and vice versa, Please take a look on that and edits of user {{user|Sobiepan}}. User pushing POV in many articles. [[User:Franek K.|Franek K.]] ([[User talk:Franek K.|talk]]) 22:49, 21 January 2014 (UTC) |
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:@[[User:Franek K.]] and [[User:Sobiepan]]. Both of you are eligible to be blocked for edit warring at [[Silesian language]]. Stop reverting immediately. If I see one more revert coming from either of you, off to [[WP:ANI/3RR]] you'll go. Then, stop accusing one another of who-knows-what ([[Talk:Silesian_language#Article_Title]] this is childish), which violates [[WP:NPOV]], few other policies and discretionary sanctions for Eastern Europe (another reason you could receive a block). Let me be clear: you are lucky either of you is not blocked yet, you have committed two violations that if any more experience Wikipedian was involved with your edits and wanted to report you would get both of your blocked. Clear? Clear. After you [[WP:TEA|calm down]], discuss things here. Let me give you a hint: cite your sources instead of insulting your opponent. --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">[[User:Piotrus|Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus]]|[[User talk:Piotrus|<font style="color:#7CFC00;background:#006400;"> reply here</font>]]</sub> 23:34, 21 January 2014 (UTC) |
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Ród / House
I would suggest to move the articles of Polish noble families from "family" to "House of". (including the categories) - example: "Potocki family" to "House of Potocki", "Sobieski family" to "House of Sobieski" etc.
The translation of "ród" (Ród Potockich) would be "House of" (House of Potocki) and not family (rodzina) - Rodzina Potockich could be a family of peasants or burgesses. "Ród" / "House" suggests immediately a noble family.
Any objections?--Sobiepan (talk) 11:24, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
- @Sobiepan: Sorry, it took me so long to catch up with this. Pl wiki is no help as they just use the name, without ród or anything else. English articles seem to be split between those using "House of..." (ex. House of Lara), those using "... family" (ex. Belsky family (Gediminid)), and those using nothing at all (ex. Igelström). In the past we used the "family" version, through this was done without any discussion. I don't have a strong opinion here; my preference for family is based only on the past usage, so overall I will abstain. I suggest you cc this discussion at Wikipedia:Naming conventions (royalty and nobility), and see if they can direct us to any better guideline (that page does not seem to discuss the naming of family articles). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 15:24, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
Wesołych Świąt
(i) Bożego Narodzenia. Volunteer Marek 00:59, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
- Happiego Holidaju everyone! --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:19, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
WikiProject Poland notability guidelines
I thought it may be a good idea to write few things down based on years of observed practice, both as a guide for new members and for others. Feel free to comment/append. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 14:16, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
Biographies are deemed notable, in clarification of WP:BIO, if:
- individuals have been covered (have a biography) in:
- Polski Słownik Biograficzny (see User:Piotrus/List of Poles)
- any other Polish encyclopedia independent of Wikipedia
- culture.pl portal
- Sources listed above are seen as "published secondary sources which are reliable... and independent of the subject"
- are recipients of Order of the White Eagle, Order of Polonia Restituta or Virtuti Militari (first three orders in precedence at orders, decorations, and medals of Poland)
- Awards listed above are seen as satisfying "the person has received a well-known and significant award or honor, or has been nominated for one several times."
In addition, pl wiki has a nice note on what makes a noble (szlachta) family notable at pl:Wikipedia:Encyklopedyczność - rody szlacheckie.
Frédéric Chopin - GA Nomination/discussion.
Frédéric Chopin is currently a good article nominee - any one who wishes to start/contribute to the discussion is welcome to do so.--Smerus (talk) 13:11, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
Ramsar sites of Poland - GA Nomination/Discussion
After a brutal DYK NOM, I've nominated Ramsar sites of Poland for a GA. Any comments are appreciated. yes, I know it's marked closed, but the reviewer didn't even give me a chance to respond to his concerns. Ajh1492 (talk) 10:56, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
- I recommend trying to address the reviewers' comments and resubmitting. Good luck! --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 14:26, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
Link to the website of the city of Chelm that is below the article is incorrect. Correct link to the city's website is under title 'Essays...' — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.173.213.66 (talk) 06:31, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
Polish names in Lithuanian municipalities
It seems that some editors are removing Polish placenames from Lithuanian municipalities. Again. Sigh. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 14:01, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
In regard to the use of Polish name in the lede see Wikipedia:NAME#Treatment_of_alternative_names. At one point a consensus was reached that if an article has a dedicated "Name" section then these names go in there. If it doesn't they go in the first sentence per Wikipedia:NAME#Treatment_of_alternative_names. Same applies to various other articles. Volunteer Marek (talk) 11:11, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
- the preceding comment was copied from Talk:Senoji Varėna --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 14:01, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
- Regions that share centuries of history will have names in different languages. Nobody is contesting German names for locales on Polish Western border. Also, I'll point out that Lithuanian placenames are uncontroversial and present in articles like Sejny or Suwałki. Per WP:NCGN, it is a common practice to add such a name to the lead; and nobody can deny shared history - Lithuania was for several centuries a part of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, where official languages included Polish (also, old Belarusian which was common in Grand Duchy of Lithuania, so many of those articles about Lithuanian places may be missing their names in Cyrillic...). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 14:01, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
- Reverted several times, which is why I am trying to invite the other party to have a discussion. Otherwise we are looking at some revert wars and/or sanctions, neither a nice perspective. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 23:08, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
Please take a look on that and edits of user Franek K. (talk · contribs)--Sobiepan (talk) 22:45, 21 January 2014 (UTC)
...and vice versa, Please take a look on that and edits of user Sobiepan (talk · contribs). User pushing POV in many articles. Franek K. (talk) 22:49, 21 January 2014 (UTC)
- @User:Franek K. and User:Sobiepan. Both of you are eligible to be blocked for edit warring at Silesian language. Stop reverting immediately. If I see one more revert coming from either of you, off to WP:ANI/3RR you'll go. Then, stop accusing one another of who-knows-what (Talk:Silesian_language#Article_Title this is childish), which violates WP:NPOV, few other policies and discretionary sanctions for Eastern Europe (another reason you could receive a block). Let me be clear: you are lucky either of you is not blocked yet, you have committed two violations that if any more experience Wikipedian was involved with your edits and wanted to report you would get both of your blocked. Clear? Clear. After you calm down, discuss things here. Let me give you a hint: cite your sources instead of insulting your opponent. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 23:34, 21 January 2014 (UTC)