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Japanese translation needed
I found some information that could help to add creation information to some articles I've been working in: This one, this one, this and this ones, but it's all in Japanese so it may require a person who knows Japanese to check it. I know it would be more suitable to ask at WP:Anime, but sadly there are no translators there. Anyway, Regards.Tintor2 (talk) 01:24, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
Gunma town name - "Shin" or "Shinmachi"?
An editor insists that the former town described in the article Shin, Gunma should correctly be named "Shinmachi" in English. I suspect the problem arises due to confusion between the fact that the article is about the former town, which should be named in accordance with standard Wikipedia policy, rather than the present district in the city of Takasaki, which may or may not be correctly called "Shinmachi". Can someone else please have a look, and perhaps add some input to the talk page? Thanks. --DAJF (talk) 02:40, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
- Um, I think the common practice should prevail over our policy. It's not Shin-machi but Shinmachi. "-machi" is inseparable from the name, unlike other towns. ja:新町 lists other Shinmachis. For example, another Shinmachi in Nagano Prefecture is now part of Nagano City. We would have to name all these towns "Shin"but it's strange. --Shinkansen Fan (talk) 06:10, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
Google cannot find articles with macrons
Hi! Anybody noticed what Maculosae tegmine lyncis observed here? Can it be fixed? bamse (talk) 00:00, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
- I raised this with Village Pump, and they are suggesting a word with the Google engineers... Or some kind of list of keywords? (Try Zuihōden/Zuihoden & Ōtsuka Museum of Art/Otsuka Museum of Art in Google to see the issue), Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 15:13, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
Mfd Hello! Project
Please see Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:WikiProject Hello! Project. Thank you. --Kleinzach 03:14, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
How to cite dictionaries
Is there a citation template for citing information from online dictionaries? I am particularly interested in the Nihon Kokugo Daijiten and 国史大辞典. bamse (talk) 11:31, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
- If you can get an absolute URL for the entry, then you can use {{cite web}}. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 07:20, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks. I used {{cite encyclopedia}} together with the "url" parameter which also works. For some reason, it does not support "trans_title" though. bamse (talk) 07:47, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
- It does now (I just added it). ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 16:19, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks. I used {{cite encyclopedia}} together with the "url" parameter which also works. For some reason, it does not support "trans_title" though. bamse (talk) 07:47, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
Importance of Tōdai-ji
I was thinking the article on Tōdai-ji should have a Top-importance rating. I'd like to open the floor to comments and objections. Boneyard90 (talk) 23:57, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
- I'm fine with that. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 08:04, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
- Based on this, I'd rather go with a "high" since I am not sure how well known it is among non-Japanophiles, and I doubt that it is "known in the majority of the world". bamse (talk) 10:48, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
- Agreed. It's one of the most important temples in Japan and the most important one in Nara. --Shinkansen Fan (talk) 14:19, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
- Well if that's the case, why don't we beef up the article, get it promoted to FA, and spread the word, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 14:55, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
- Why not, if others do; on the history front, I see the table of 'Major historical events' ends in 855, presumably that can't be right (didn't something happen at the end of the Heian period?); on the architecture front, there are many ICP buildings too; there are indeed many great sculptures (shame about image restrictions), and I'm sure other ?artefacts? also; I think the Shōsōin should have its own section rather than a brief mention as it's uber important; there's nothing on festivals/rites such as Omizutori etc. The last quality check flagged refs and 'accessibility' as the main issues; I guess the former is ok if tedious to resolve, while the latter may need more thought/effort, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 16:23, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
- Based on this, I'd rather go with a "high" since I am not sure how well known it is among non-Japanophiles, and I doubt that it is "known in the majority of the world". bamse (talk) 10:48, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
I did the assessment; I've been working on assessing Japan articles in the Unassessed category, but this is, I think, the first article I found that I thought deserved Top-importance. In the assessment, I X'd References, because as is probably obvious, there are a number of claims sprinkled throughout the article that need references. I gigged "Accessibility" because there are a number of terms which need brief explanation, like the Shuni-e festival or Kukai, the monk. They're linked, but a reader shouldn't have to follow 2 or 3 links in a short paragraph. A short gloss should satisfy most of these. I kind of teetered on X'ing "Coverage", because as Maculosae points out, it seems like there's a gap in history between the 9th and 20th centuries. SO - am I seeing a majority opinion here? I note only one dissenting statement on the issue of "Importance", and a unified call for improvement of article content. Shall we leave discussion open for a couple more days? Boneyard90 (talk) 16:56, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
- I don't doubt that Tōdai-ji is super important for Japan. My dissent on top importance is based simply on the definition in the importance scale I linked to above, which requires being well known and important outside of Japan as well. Possibly this definition needs to be reformulated. Anyway, don't take it as a strong dissent, having it as top importance article is perfectly fine with me. So who is going to improve this article? bamse (talk) 18:46, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
- Cool. Done. I think it's about time the definition or criteria for Top-importance needs to be revised to include topics that have defined Japanese history and culture, even if they are not known outside Japan. After all, how many non-Japanophiles know about Toyotomi Hideyoshi, Hideyo Noguchi, or the Genpei War? (all Top-importance)
- On the other hand, I think the list of Top-importance articles should be reviewed and culled. Are Aomori city, Sapporo, Takeshi Kitano, and Studio Ghibli really core topics on Japan? Boneyard90 (talk) 19:56, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
- Well, I guess the question is, how (and for what) are the importance ratings used on wikipedia? I don't know the answer, but Wikipedia:WikiProject Japan/Assessment tells me: The criteria used for rating article priority are not meant to be an absolute or canonical view of how significant the topic is. Rather, they attempt to gauge the probability of the average reader of Wikipedia needing to look up the topic (and thus the immediate need to have a suitably well-written article on it). So significance for Japanese history and culture is not a good argument here, even though I'd love to see articles on Japanese history and culture to be regarded as "top". Honestly, I doubt that many editors care about these importance ratings and rather contribute to articles that are important to them or interest them. In my opinion, the present importance ratings could simply be automatically extracted by analysing the article traffic statistics, so they don't really provide any additional information. So, instead of having importance ratings depend on "general interest", some kind of importance rating (in addition to the existing one) based on significance for Japan would be more interesting in my opinion. bamse (talk) 20:22, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
- Agreed on all counts, I think, though it would be tough to evaluate the importance of a new article based on number of views. I merely brought this up because I thought Todai-ji deserved Top-importance, and the guideline state: "No member should give [Top] rating to any article without first getting Project approval from the other members." Boneyard90 (talk) 21:12, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
- I am going to be there on Saturday so I can take some extra photos of the inside if you guys think we can use them. There are also some really neat scale models behind the Dai-butsu that show what it looked liked before each of the two fires I can get shots of. I can take some shots of people going through the hole in the support post as well of course. I just don't know if that is so usable here. Just let me know if you have any requests. I am not a super good photographer but I do have access to some nice equipment at least. I am not sure if it can be considered the most important temple in Nara though. Certainly it is the biggest tourist attraction but from historical, political, and religious perspectives Kōfuku-ji seems much more significant. But that is not really a topic to discuss here I suppose. Colincbn (talk) 12:36, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
- Both temples are included in the seven greatest temples of Nara: Nanto Shichi Daiji. Kōfuku-ji used to be really powerful and bigger than it is now, but many structures have been lost due to a series of fire. That's why Tōdai-ji comes out on top today. --Shinkansen Fan (talk) 15:27, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
- I am going to be there on Saturday so I can take some extra photos of the inside if you guys think we can use them. There are also some really neat scale models behind the Dai-butsu that show what it looked liked before each of the two fires I can get shots of. I can take some shots of people going through the hole in the support post as well of course. I just don't know if that is so usable here. Just let me know if you have any requests. I am not a super good photographer but I do have access to some nice equipment at least. I am not sure if it can be considered the most important temple in Nara though. Certainly it is the biggest tourist attraction but from historical, political, and religious perspectives Kōfuku-ji seems much more significant. But that is not really a topic to discuss here I suppose. Colincbn (talk) 12:36, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
- Agreed on all counts, I think, though it would be tough to evaluate the importance of a new article based on number of views. I merely brought this up because I thought Todai-ji deserved Top-importance, and the guideline state: "No member should give [Top] rating to any article without first getting Project approval from the other members." Boneyard90 (talk) 21:12, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
I'm still confused with the importance rating. Who is the "average reader of Wikipedia"? Among the articles mentioned above, I feel that all except Takeshi Kitano and Studio Ghibli qualify as top-importance, and even these two are very important for fans. I guess objective assessments are really hard. As bamse says, perhaps we need different criteria, at least in this WikiProject. I personally focus on adding images, sources and translations to articles of my interest. --Shinkansen Fan (talk) 15:27, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
- At least in the Nara period, Tōdai-ji seems more important than Kōfuku-ji to me. But I agree that both are great temples and the Kōfuku-ji article deserves to be more than a stub. I left my picture wishlist at your (Colincbn's) talk page. In addition pictures of the scale models would be nice to have as well. Thanks already! bamse (talk) 15:37, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
- Re Boneyard90: I think number of views/day is generally good indicator of "general interest", though I agree that some factors should be considered such as temporary spikes in the view number (due to appearance on the main page for instance), or the way readers get to an article (directly or through a wikilink from another article). bamse (talk) 15:40, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
- Personally, I think there are enough photos of Todai-ji already; there's even one of the pillar with the hole in it. This issue was commented on back in 2008, see Talk:Tōdai-ji#Too many pics.
- As for importance, it's true, it is subjective. I use the stated guidelines, but also ask myself such questions as:
- How much did this topic influence the culture, history, people of Japan?
- Was this subject a "first" or "most" in its field? And how important is this field?
- How many people did this topic affect? (a small minority, a fair amount of the population, a fair amount and some on the international scene, a mjority in Japan, everybody in Japan...)
- For example a "first" of minor effect in a sub-genre of lolita-porn-anime is still going to rate "Low" because its such a restricted sub-set of people that are involved.
- However, while pachinko is not well-known in the West, it has still had a major influence on Japanese culture, sociology, family issues, crime, electricity consumption...
- Subjective, but I do try to remain consistent. I hope I have allayed any concerns that I might be too arbitrary in my evaluations. Boneyard90 (talk) 16:08, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
- Fully agree with your way of assessment. As for too many photos, the discussion you linked to is about the Tōdai-ji article where the pictures to prose ratio is indeed too high at the moment. This could be fixed by the necessary expansion of the article. While I agree that there are sufficient images available for the Daibutsuden, Big Buddha, etc, I would like to remind that Tōdai-ji is a big temple with lots of buildings and some of the lesser known ones or interiors are not yet adequately represented with images on commons. Of course we don't want all those images in the Tōdai-ji article, but images are also needed for other articles such as Lists of National Treasures of Japan or articles related to Buddhist architecture. So please anybody who has the opportunity, please contribute images of less photographed things related to Tōdai-ji (or Japanese stuff in general). bamse (talk) 16:31, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
- On the image front there are indeed still many buildings without photos, as per the Todaiji talk page, plus all the statues etc, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 16:56, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
- Fully agree with your way of assessment. As for too many photos, the discussion you linked to is about the Tōdai-ji article where the pictures to prose ratio is indeed too high at the moment. This could be fixed by the necessary expansion of the article. While I agree that there are sufficient images available for the Daibutsuden, Big Buddha, etc, I would like to remind that Tōdai-ji is a big temple with lots of buildings and some of the lesser known ones or interiors are not yet adequately represented with images on commons. Of course we don't want all those images in the Tōdai-ji article, but images are also needed for other articles such as Lists of National Treasures of Japan or articles related to Buddhist architecture. So please anybody who has the opportunity, please contribute images of less photographed things related to Tōdai-ji (or Japanese stuff in general). bamse (talk) 16:31, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
Review of Top-Importance articles
I move that the following articles be downgraded from Top-importance:
- Aomori, Aomori - Great city, but has not significantly altered the history of Japan, and I would argue it is not well known outside of Japan.
- Suggested downgrade: Mid.
- Sapporo - Slightly more influential in Japanese history as the capital of the Republic of Ezo. Mostly known outside of Japan for the beer, the ski slopes, the 1972 Winter Olympics, and the annual Sapporo Snow Festival.
- Suggested downgrade: High
- Takeshi Kitano - Popular comedian and actor who's on multiple TV shows and ads for English schools, though notability outside Japan is doubtful. While notable and popular, his effect on Japanese culture and/or the entertainment industry can be debated.
- Suggested downgrade: Mid or High.
- Studio Ghibli - Animation studio that has produced some of the most recognizeable and celebrated works of modern anime. Not sure how many people would know the name of the studio. While the name might not be known, cinematic anime would be quite different without the studio.
- Suggested downgrade: High.
I'm all ears, folks. Boneyard90 (talk) 16:28, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
- All fine with me. bamse (talk) 16:33, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
- I'd give a higher rating than High to Sapporo. It's the largest city to the north of Tokyo. It was the seat of the Hokkaido Development Commission (ja:開拓使) and. has been the political, economic, and academic center of Hokkaido. Also, it hosted international events like the FIFA World Cup, and the Toyako Summit and the APEC meetings (the main venue was Yokohama).
- * Has a large impact outside of Japan? Yes.
- * Known in the majority of the world? Probably no, but if you look for information on these international events, you will most likely know this city --Shinkansen Fan (talk) 05:12, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
- I'd be fine with downgrading Aomori, Aomori to High, but not to Mid as it's a prefectural capital. Sapporo is quite well known internationally, so I think it should remain at Top. Same with Takeshi Kitano who has achieved significant notability outside Japan. The same goes for Studio Ghibli, which is arguably the most well known animation studio in the world outside of Walt Disney Animation. I think it should remain Top. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 06:30, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
- As for cities, I think that the only cities that should be "Top" are Tokyo, Kyoto, Osaka, Nara, Hiroshima, and Nagasaki. But that's me. I'll go along with consensus.
- On Takeshi Kitano: I think to rank him with Tokugawa Ieyasu, Yukio Mishima, and Emperor Hirohito is being much too generous. He's a popular actor and comedian. How has he changed the course of Japanese history? Boneyard90 (talk) 21:33, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
Before taking action, I suggest that this discussion remain open for one week from its initiation. Boneyard90 (talk) 18:01, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
So after one week, here's how I read the trend of opinions: Aomori is moved to High importance, Sapporo stays at Top, Takeshi Kitano and Studio Ghibli both downgrade to High (two editors in favor of downgrades, one against, one had no opinion). Boneyard90 (talk) 12:53, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
Japanese nuclear weapon program
There is a notice at WT:MILHIST about Japanese nuclear weapon program. 65.95.13.213 (talk) 04:34, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
- Not so much a notice as a request. You can find it here: WT:MILHIST#Neutrality review request: Japanese nuclear weapon program. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 06:32, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
Categories for discussion
At Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2011 May 21, I am proposing the merger of Category:Onsen with Category:Hot springs of Japan. --Bxj (talk) 01:51, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
- Agree. Boneyard90 (talk) 03:09, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
File:Fukushima explosion.jpg has been nominated for deletion. 65.95.13.213 (talk) 04:52, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
MEXT document on Japanese names
According to Google Translate http://www.mext.go.jp/b_menu/shingi/12/kokugo/toushin/001217d.htm talks about Japanese names
But what is MEXT saying about how they are treated in English (bottommost part?) - Does it say who established the given name - family name order? What is it saying about the survey results? WhisperToMe (talk) 02:18, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
- The document just says that the practice of writing in the GN-FN order was establishd during the Meiji-era Westernization. As for the survey, it asked how the Japanese names should be written in English, after noting that in English newspapers and magazinesm, Chinese and Korean names are commonly written in the FN-GN order. The result was: should be kept in the FN-GN order (34.9%), reorder them in the GN-FN order (30.6%), not sure (29.6%) --Kusunose 03:16, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
- Thank you so much! I'll post the info to Japanese names article WhisperToMe (talk) 04:44, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
Unreferenced BLPs - the final surge
Since early in 2010, many editors have assisted in the referencing or removal of over 90% of the Unreferenced Biographies of Living People, bringing the total down from over 50,000 to the current 4,861 (as of 16:07, 1 June 2011 (UTC)). Thank you for all of the work you've done to date, but we are now asking for your help in finishing this task. There are two main projects which are devoted to removing UBLPs from en.Wikipedia:
- WP:URBLP has set up a large number of topic based lists, which are updated each day by a WP:BOT. Your project's list is located at Wikipedia:WikiProject Japan/Unreferenced BLPs and currently contains 81 articles.
- WP:URBLPR is focusing on clearing out the backlog based on the month in which each article was tagged as being unreferenced. The current task is Category:Unreferenced BLPs from September 2009, and it is the last month remaining from 2009.
- You can also reference a random article or make your own lists using one of the catscan tools, such as this search for Japanese actors.
All you have to do is pick your articles and then add suitable references from reliable sources and remove the {{BLP unsourced}} template. There is no need to log your changes, register or remove the articles from the list. If you need any help, or have any comments, please ask at WP:URBLPR or WT:URBLP.
Thank you for any assistance you can provide. The-Pope (talk) 16:07, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
Openhistory
Why do so many (poor) articles cite "openhistory.org"? By definition openhistory.org is not a suitable or acceptable source for wikipedia. Essentially some random guy on the internet posted stuff to a website. That does not meet notability requirements or correct source requirements for wikipedia. Sgtkabuki (talk) 18:05, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
- Feel free to make a list of them, and then start working to fix them. That's what this project is about. If you don't want to fix them, then please at least make a list of the "so many (poor) articles)" so someone else can start working on them. Thanks! ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 07:29, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
- Special:Linksearch/www.openhistory.org lists pages which link to www.openhistory.org. As of writing, there are three Japan-related articles: History of Japan, Rangaku, and Kōichi Kido; and four Japan-related media: File:Oyama-jinja 004.jpg, File:Arashiyama 013.jpg, File:Wajima.jpg, and File:Oyama-jinja 004.jpg. --Kusunose 11:44, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks. So, not so many after all. Feel free to help find better sources. The rest of us will see what we can do, too. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 16:15, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
- You should also check how the pages link to openhistory. In fact only Kōichi Kido lists openhistory under "References and external link". The other two articles only have it in "External Links" sections, which is much less serious. As for the images, they were taken from openhistory which is perfectly fine, unless you question that they depict what they claim to depict. bamse (talk) 19:44, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks. So, not so many after all. Feel free to help find better sources. The rest of us will see what we can do, too. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 16:15, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
- Special:Linksearch/www.openhistory.org lists pages which link to www.openhistory.org. As of writing, there are three Japan-related articles: History of Japan, Rangaku, and Kōichi Kido; and four Japan-related media: File:Oyama-jinja 004.jpg, File:Arashiyama 013.jpg, File:Wajima.jpg, and File:Oyama-jinja 004.jpg. --Kusunose 11:44, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
Hand fan importance
I'd like to evaluate the article on the Hand fan as Top importance. According to the article:
- "The folding fan was invented in Japan around the 6th to 8th century".
- A Japanese monk presented folding fans (sensu) to the Emperor of China in the 10th century.
- A Korean envoy introduced (Japanese) fans to the Chinese emperor in the 11th century
- They became fashionable in China in the Ming Dynasty.
- Later, European nations imported Japanese fans, where they became quite popular in the 18th and 19th centuries.
Comments? Boneyard90 (talk) 11:03, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
- It was actually my edits. I don't know it should be evaluated to Top. However it should not be evaluated as low. ―― Phoenix7777 (talk) 11:10, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
- Look, just as there is notability as normal humans understand the word and wiki-notability, there is importance and wiki-importance. Have hand fans been parodied in The Simpsons? Do they regularly appear on Faux News? Have they been turned into a game that runs on PSP? Does Lady Gaga reference them? ¶ Apropos of notability and importance and all that, did anyone else here notice this news (a hideously CSS-stripped version of which I've had archived here)? Yamamoto, many of whose extraordinary works I saw exhibited in Meguro last year or the year before, has no article in en:WP, and he appears to get a grand total of zero (0) mentions here. The recognition by UNESCO has been fairly big news in Japan, but I don't suppose that this has much influence. (Meanwhile, as for the excitement within en:WP over something similar, though one rung down, in the anglosphere, see all the responses here and here.) Uh, maybe I should go on a wikibreak. -- Hoary (talk) 11:50, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
- Apologies for somehow overlooking this. As for the questions posed by Hoary: Yes, I believe hand fans have been portrayed in The Simpsons, though I can't tell you which episode (I believe it has also been portrayed in Family Guy, if that helps]]; no, hand fans aren't a regular feature of Faux (Fox?) News; I'm pretty sure they are portrayed in some video games (I'm thinking Soul Calibre and/or Tekken); and last, I don't really pay much attention to Lady Gaga, but if she'd wear a meat-dress, why wouldn't she carry a hand-fan, if only to shoo away the flies. I must say, that's an interesting list of criteria you have for determining Wiki-importance. But forgive my density, I'm still not sure of your opinion regarding the Wiki-importance of Hand fan. Boneyard90 (talk) 17:27, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
- In deference to the primary contributing editor, I'll rate the article High-importance. Boneyard90 (talk) 12:29, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
- Also note: Some editors have challenged the claims made in the article, as written by User:Phoenix7777. See the Talk:Hand fan, comments near the bottom, and then please add references to the article. Boneyard90 (talk) 12:35, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
FLC of List of National Treasures of Japan (writings: Chinese books)
Hi! I nominated List of National Treasures of Japan (writings: Chinese books) at featured list candidates and would be very happy if somebody could have a look at it, checking for these criteria and leaving questions/comments/suggestions and possibly a vote (support/oppose) on the nomination page. Thanks. bamse (talk) 19:55, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
Use of capitalisation / italics for tems such as Jōyō kanji
Hi, articles such as Jōyō kanji which refer to Jōyō kanji, Tōyō kanji and other similar terms currently use a random mixture of italics/non-italics, capitalised/non-capitalised and/or putting the terms in quotes. Does anyone have a view on what the preferred style should be? 86.160.218.185 (talk) 12:01, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
- As non-English words that are not proper names, correct usage is lower case italics without quotes: jōyō kanji. Jpatokal (talk) 12:14, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks, I have made that article consistent. 86.160.86.247 (talk) 17:55, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
Sources for civil war of Wa
The Civil war of Wa is mentioned in a number of old Chinese histories. To expand that article, I am looking for quotes from the following books that mention this war: Book of Liang, Book of Sui and the History of Northern Dynasties. These quotes are probably very short (a sentence or two each). Preferrably I am looking for English translations, though any other language I can make sense of (German, Spanish, Dutch, French, ....) is fine as well. The corresponding Japanese article has the quotes in Japanese, but I am looking for a reliable source and, as mentioned, ideally in English. Any help would be greatly appreciated. bamse (talk) 22:55, 17 June 2011 (UTC) Also, if somebody has access to this book and is interested in improving this article, that would be fantastic. bamse (talk) 22:59, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
FAR
I have nominated Felice Beato for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. GamerPro64 20:02, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
International Space Station.
I believe The International Space Station(ISS) is of great importance to the Japanese people and should be included within the scope of WikiProject Japan. The Japanese Laboratory complex きぼう, Kibō received the good design award in 2010, from Ministry of International Trade and Industry of Japan.
I would like to improve the ISS and Kibō articles, but have not received a response to my request for images such as these (Marbling and Spiral top) from JAXA. My Japanese language skills are beginner at best, and if anyone could assist me to request, in a more respectful way than using English, for images to be released into the public domain I would be sincerely grateful.
The きぼう, Kibō article has not yet been rated for importance to WikiProject Japan.
I would ask for support to include the ISS article within WikiProject Japan.
Please echo responses here.
どうもありがとうございました Penyulap talk 00:18, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
Murasaki Shikibu Debate
Concerning the article Murasaki Shikibu: I've been in a debate with editors who have wanted to remove the claim that she "is credited with writing the world's first novel", which may be factually inaccurate or need some qualifier, i.e. "first modern novel", "first psychological novel". The editors have attacked the credibility of sources provided, but have not provided any new sources to refute the claim either. One of their arguments (I think) is that The Tale of Genji wasn't known to Western authors and is therefore not a relevant claim as it did not influence the evolution of the novel centuries later. Please see Talk:Murasaki Shikibu#Earliest novel?. Thanks. Boneyard90 (talk) 13:46, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
Genealogy of sinitic scripts
Genealogy of sinitic scripts has been nominated for deletion. 65.94.47.63 (talk) 05:31, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
International Space Station
I have nominated International Space Station for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Penyulap talk 14:34, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
Wokou
Wokou is requested to be renamed to Wakō, see Talk:Wokou. This moves the article from the Chinese name to the Japanese name, for pirates of Japanese extraction who attacked Korea and China. The Korean term is Waegu. 65.94.47.63 (talk) 05:59, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
- They also attacked Japanese, and sometimes Spanish and Portuguese, ships. Colincbn (talk) 15:04, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
- To be a bit more precise, there is an ongoing rename discussion at Talk:Wokou as to whether the article should be renamed from "Wokou" to "Wako". If you are familiar with the topic, feel free to join the discussion. -- 李博杰 | —Talk contribs email 04:50, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
Tecmo probably wasn't founded by "Bin Man"
Hey, I've been doing a lot of slow addition to the Tecmo Koei article, and I finally managed to track down a source that mentions the name of the founder and the date and cause of his death, http://www.tecmo.co.jp/company/pdf/2006072102.pdf. Problem being, I don't speak Japanese and Google seems to think his name is "Bin man Kakihara (who Yuanmei oysters)". The text is "柿原 彬人(かきはら よしひと)", and I think it is Akira Kakihara or Akira-Jin Kakihara, that is as close as I'm able to get. If someone could tell me his actual name, I'd much appreciate it. ▫ JohnnyMrNinja 12:39, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
- Well, the text you quoted says his name is Yoshihito (よしひと) Kakihara (かきはら). ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 15:56, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
- I corrected the name on the article. Ja WP has an article on him. Oda Mari (talk) 16:18, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks! When I couldn't make sense of it, I tried just translating individual characters, and Google said 彬 could mean Akira, but obviously I was way off. This is very helpful. ▫ JohnnyMrNinja 19:37, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
- By itself, it certainly can be pronounced "Akira", but this is a compound name, and therefore the likely pronunciations are more limited. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 07:22, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks! When I couldn't make sense of it, I tried just translating individual characters, and Google said 彬 could mean Akira, but obviously I was way off. This is very helpful. ▫ JohnnyMrNinja 19:37, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
- I corrected the name on the article. Ja WP has an article on him. Oda Mari (talk) 16:18, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
Toyohara Chikanobu
The on-going development of Toyohara Chikanobu would likely benefit from peer review -- see Wikipedia:Peer review/Toyohara Chikanobu/archive1.
My guess is that it is ripe for Good Article review -- see . What do you think? --Tenmei (talk) 20:03, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
- I'll have a look at it. Not sure whether articles should be at peer review and WP:GAN at the same time. bamse (talk) 21:36, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
- Since I am not experienced with the good article process, I will leave some comments at the peer review page. bamse (talk) 21:37, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
JA interwiki
Would someone be as kind as to revert these two edits on the Japanese Wikipedia? A pair of IPs have applied WP:SPAM links advertising their own online store, and is spoofing the "taobao.com" official link, as if to fool someone into clicking the link to their own page in bad faith. -- 李博杰 | —Talk contribs email 04:18, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
I just created this one, if there are any updates, I would love to know what he's doing!--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 07:29, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
- Interesting. You should probably add some inline citations for "he was a subject of national press attention." and for "recognized as a hero" in order to prevent issues with notability. bamse (talk) 09:36, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
Is this the guy who blew up and resigned today?--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 15:38, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
伝芳堂
What is the reading (and meaning) of 伝芳堂 at Anraku-ji (Ueda) ([1]? bamse (talk) 17:04, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
- A likely reading is Denpou-dou. The first kanji means legend, (oral) tradition, or tell. Second kanji means perfume, fragrance, or something favorable. The third kanji means hall or some other profound structure. If I was going to interpret the meaning, I would say it could be called the "Hall of Legendary Fragrance", perrhaps a reference to the incense that gets burned there? Other writers may have other interpretations, but which shouldn't differ significantly. Boneyard90 (talk) 18:26, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
- I agree with Boneyard90. Though it's a blog, it also says Denpō Dō. As for "den", the kanji is 傳. Oda Mari (talk) 18:37, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
- Thank you. Could it be a reference to the former priests (whose statues are enshrined there). bamse (talk) 19:44, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
- No idea there. Neither kanji appears to be the priests' names, so it seems an unlikely connection. Boneyard90 (talk) 23:41, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
- Thank you. Could it be a reference to the former priests (whose statues are enshrined there). bamse (talk) 19:44, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
- I agree with Boneyard90. Though it's a blog, it also says Denpō Dō. As for "den", the kanji is 傳. Oda Mari (talk) 18:37, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
In this table, would alphabetic order be an improvement?
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For me, the current ordering in this table is best; but what about those who know nothing about Japanese history?
A set of related questions concern the provinces. Would it be better to introduce alphabetic order in each of the regional segments? --Tenmei (talk) 04:30, 8 July 2011 (UTC)