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Congratulations to my esteemed colleague, {{noping|Baffle gab1978}}, for being named the WP [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Editor Retention/Editor of the Week#2014 Recipients of Editor of the Week aka The Eddy|Editor of the Week]] for the week beginning November 23. A well-deserved honor! All the best, [[User:Miniapolis|'''''<span style="color:navy">Mini</span>''''']][[User_talk:Miniapolis|'''''<span style="color:#8B4513">apolis</span>''''']] 15:03, 24 November 2014 (UTC) |
Congratulations to my esteemed colleague, {{noping|Baffle gab1978}}, for being named the WP [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Editor Retention/Editor of the Week#2014 Recipients of Editor of the Week aka The Eddy|Editor of the Week]] for the week beginning November 23. A well-deserved honor! All the best, [[User:Miniapolis|'''''<span style="color:navy">Mini</span>''''']][[User_talk:Miniapolis|'''''<span style="color:#8B4513">apolis</span>''''']] 15:03, 24 November 2014 (UTC) |
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:Thanks again Miniapolis; unfortunately my QC checks [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Guild_of_Copy_Editors/Backlog_elimination_drives/November_2014&diff=635191737&oldid=635189319 review1] don't seem to be too conducive to editor retention: [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Guild_of_Copy_Editors/Backlog_elimination_drives/November_2014&diff=prev&oldid=635298590 diff1], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Guild_of_Copy_Editors/List_of_participants&diff=prev&oldid=635299020 diff2]. :-/ Cheers, [[User:Baffle gab1978|Baffle gab1978]] ([[User talk:Baffle gab1978|talk]]) 23:49, 24 November 2014 (UTC) |
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2013 Annual Report
I've mostly completed our yearly report here. It still needs the plans section completed by our new lead, User:Jonesey95. Also, if any other coordinator is inclined, they could create some pretty graphs for it, or do the usual copy editing and modifying as they see fit. Anyone that helps out should also add their name to the byline. Thanks everyone for a great year! It was a pleasure leading the guild in 2013. —Torchiest talkedits 18:12, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
- Thank you Torchiest, it's good to have a summary of our work and I appreciate the time you and the other coordinators have put into the reports over the past year. I've just been tidying the 2013 request archive page and fixing some table sortation errors and inconsistencies; I think I got them all... Happy New Annum to all GOCE members and coordinators; your work is truly appreciated. :-) Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 21:52, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
- Very nice job, Torchiest (as always), and I'll be happy to see you whenever you can get around here. Happy New Year and all the best, Miniapolis 03:29, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
- I'd like to put my two cents in, but I'm otherwise occupied for the next 12-18 hours. I'll see if I can squeeze in a little time to say a few words. – Jonesey95 (talk) 04:54, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
- I'll add a few sentences about the requests page. I make the total of articles in the archive to be 577; five were declined and four were deleted, making 568 completed requests. The report currently says 555. I've got M$ Excel but I've no idea how to make graphs with it; this might be a good chance to learn! :-) Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 02:03, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
- Hm, I just copy pasted the entire list into a text editor and checked how many lines were in it there. I did miscount one because the Zenbook entry listed two editors, which showed up on separate lines. Subtracting that and the nine declined/deleted, I came up with 545. How did you get your count? —Torchiest talkedits 04:45, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
- I copied and pasted the table's contents into an Excel 97 page and noted the number of lines in the resulting table.
The Excel page had one table entry per line, including those with multiple copy editors listed. My mistake; the Excel page has multiple lines where multiple copy-editors are listed; I think it's finding line breaks. Ah, tech! ;-) Baffle gab1978 (talk) 05:01, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
- I copied and pasted the table's contents into an Excel 97 page and noted the number of lines in the resulting table.
- Hm, I just copy pasted the entire list into a text editor and checked how many lines were in it there. I did miscount one because the Zenbook entry listed two editors, which showed up on separate lines. Subtracting that and the nine declined/deleted, I came up with 545. How did you get your count? —Torchiest talkedits 04:45, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
- I'll add a few sentences about the requests page. I make the total of articles in the archive to be 577; five were declined and four were deleted, making 568 completed requests. The report currently says 555. I've got M$ Excel but I've no idea how to make graphs with it; this might be a good chance to learn! :-) Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 02:03, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
- I'd like to put my two cents in, but I'm otherwise occupied for the next 12-18 hours. I'll see if I can squeeze in a little time to say a few words. – Jonesey95 (talk) 04:54, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
- Very nice job, Torchiest (as always), and I'll be happy to see you whenever you can get around here. Happy New Year and all the best, Miniapolis 03:29, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
Sorry about that Torchiest; it was my mistake. After a check in Word using the line count tool I agree with your 554 --> 545 figure. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 05:31, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
- I've added my contributions and adjusted the formatting a bit. If someone wants to give the whole thing, including my note, a quick copy edit, I think it's ready to go. Nice work, everyone. – Jonesey95 (talk) 05:58, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
- Congratulations! It looks like you all had another great year. Happy New Year to all of you. − SMasters (talk) 03:08, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
January newsletter and drive wrap-up
I will be off-wiki for the next few days. Can one of my fellow coordinators take on the task of wrapping up the drive and drafting a newsletter that closes the drive? Someone also needs to calculate barnstars for the drive. I'll be happy to help distribute them starting late Sunday (US time) or early Monday. Bad timing on my part, but so it goes. – Jonesey95 (talk) 23:06, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
- I got the om box updated and uploaded the most recent graphs. -- Diannaa (talk) 00:27, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks, Dianna—guess we'll start doing up the barnstar table tomorrow. All the best, Miniapolis 01:34, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
- I've created the newsletter and topsheet draft templates. If there's anything you need help with give me a shout, though I may not be online until late evening GMT. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 03:45, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks, Baffle--I just created the barnstars page, based on November. I'll leave a note here after I update the table today, and we can tick them off as we do them (it'll be my turn to be busy tomorrow :-)). All the best, Miniapolis 15:45, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
- I've created the newsletter and topsheet draft templates. If there's anything you need help with give me a shout, though I may not be online until late evening GMT. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 03:45, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks, Dianna—guess we'll start doing up the barnstar table tomorrow. All the best, Miniapolis 01:34, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
Miniapolis gave out most of the barnstars, it appears. They have all been distributed at this point.
The newsletter is ready to go. Thanks for covering for me, everyone. – Jonesey95 (talk) 04:57, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
February blitz theme needed
Good gracious, February is short. Let's get a February blitz going on Sunday. We need a theme. Here's what we have done so far:
- October 2012: WikiProjects Olympics, Albums, Football, and Television
- December 2012: Oldest tagged articles
- February 2013: Requests
- April 2013: Newest tagged articles
- June 2013: WikiProject Military History
- August 2013: Requests
- October 2013: WikiProject Film
- December 2013: Close subcategories of Category:Religion
Any WikiProjects out there that need some love? – Jonesey95 (talk) 04:38, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
- I'm going to suggest something which may not have consensus, but here goes. Given our current level of participation (editors and coordinators alike), I'd rather see more attention paid to the requests list during our off months. It seems to be getting long again; for me, six to eight weeks is plenty long enough and I'd love to see it under a month. I don't think most editors requesting a copyedit before a GAN realize they'll have to wait so long for that {{GOCE}} tag. From a coordinator's standpoint, it took a long time to make up the table (thank you, Torchiest, for setting it up!), give out the leaderboard awards and a bunch of barnstars; the thought of yet another contest in two weeks (which would, FWIW, again cut into my copyediting time) is, frankly, unappealing. Thoughts? All the best, Miniapolis 14:51, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
- I second that; I'd certainly welcome some shrinkage at the requests page. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 04:02, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
- Makes sense. Also, wasn't there a suggestion a while back to reduce the number of concurrent requests allowed? Some requesters make new requests as soon as they can, so reducing the quota might help to achieve shrinkage. It also might help to reduce the proportion of popular culture ("broadly construed" ;)) requests, since these topics tend to be the ones that the multiple-requesters go for. (This is why I take on very few requests now. For the most part, I find the article topics ultra-boring.) --Stfg (talk) 11:40, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
- I feel your pain :-). AFAIK, the limit per requester is three but how about two instead? All the best, Miniapolis 14:37, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
- I think we'd have to be even-handed about decreasing the limit. I think giving an advanced notice period might be a good plan, something like , "From (say) 16 March the maximum requests will be reduced to two". The danger is the page getting flooded with requests before the limit drops, but it might stop it being used as a "one-stop shop" for copy-editing. OTOH if we don't tell people in advance we might be accused of bad faith, etc. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 20:28, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
- I feel your pain :-). AFAIK, the limit per requester is three but how about two instead? All the best, Miniapolis 14:37, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
- Makes sense. Also, wasn't there a suggestion a while back to reduce the number of concurrent requests allowed? Some requesters make new requests as soon as they can, so reducing the quota might help to achieve shrinkage. It also might help to reduce the proportion of popular culture ("broadly construed" ;)) requests, since these topics tend to be the ones that the multiple-requesters go for. (This is why I take on very few requests now. For the most part, I find the article topics ultra-boring.) --Stfg (talk) 11:40, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
- I second that; I'd certainly welcome some shrinkage at the requests page. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 04:02, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
Any more ideas about the February blitz theme, other than Requests (or killing the Blitzes altogether, which we can't do this month on short notice)? I'm tempted to go with Requests, unless someone has a brilliant idea in the next day or so. – Jonesey95 (talk) 21:34, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
- While we certainly need to give notice about a change in the number-of-requests rule, I don't see any WikiProjects begging us to blitz their articles and we don't need to have a blitz just for the requests page. All the best, Miniapolis 00:48, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
- I have updated the blitz page to have this blitz focus on Requests. I also added some instructions about Good Articles, since I have run afoul of the GA criteria at times. The blitz opens in a few hours.
- I am open to the idea of changing the theme of blitzes, or of asking people to work on Requests in non-drive months. I do think the blitzes can be a different kind of fun activity for people who might not be as interested in the drives or requests, however, so I'd like to have a discussion here before dispensing with them altogether. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:33, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
- My two cents: the original idea for blitzes was to help us not to lose too much ground in the off months from drives, and find a fun way to do it, with more variety than just the generic drive. The blitzes can serve as a way to target any particular copy editing desire we may have, and have been used multiple times to get a bit more caught up on requests. I hope we can keep it going, even though I haven't had the time to sit down for a lot of in-depth copy editing lately. —Torchiest talkedits 03:43, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
Premature requests
I wonder if we don't need to stomp on the practice of adding a request to GOCE/REQ only to tell copy editors who have started work to hold off because it isn't ready yet. It's discourteous to the copy editor who starts work only to be called off, and it has a flavour of queue-jumping. Maybe best simply to remove requests that the requester wants placed on hold, with the advice to add to the bottom again when ready? --Stfg (talk) 23:56, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
- I think it's a good idea; requesters like the latest one have plenty of time to work on articles before getting a copy-edit done. I've no idea what the current 'please place oh-hold' business is about, but luckily the copy-editor who accepted the request hasn't started yet. For what it's worth I've changed my comments to that requester on the GOCE/REQ talk page.We usually decline requests for c/es to articles that aren't stable or where significant changes that affect the c/e occur while it's in progress. I've no objection to requests going 'on hold' for a short while providing the problems are settled before the c/e starts. Perhaps we could set a maximum time window for 'on hold' requests—say a fortnight—before we decline, archive and remove them. IDK what else we can do really. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 02:06, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
- I agree with Simon, and left a note on the requests talk page. The list is long enough as it is without confusing things by allowing requests to be put on hold, although I just had a look at the article; I'd jumped to the conclusion that it was a typical Bollywood article, and FWIW I find those editors somewhat demanding :-). This article has encyclopedic value, though, so maybe Baffle's right and we should allow an occasional exception. All the best, Miniapolis 03:51, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
February barnstars and newsletter
February blitz barnstars and newsletter are needed. I posted a note on the Blitz talk page saying that we would work on barnstars starting 12 hours from now. – Jonesey95 (talk) 00:20, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
- I've just copied the nl from last year's, updated coords etc. Wikipedia:WikiProject_Guild_of_Copy_Editors/Blitzes/February_2014/Newsletter; data can be filled in as appropriate. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 21:58, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
- I've created the barnstars page; just tick 'em off as you award them. I've also updated the newsletter (thanks, Baffle). Miniapolis 00:39, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
- Please let me know if you would like me to continue to deliver newsletters. Alternatively, newsletters can now be delivered by admin Miniapolis using the new MediaWiki message thingy. Detailed instructions are available here. -- Diannaa (talk) 20:40, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
- Dianna, thanks to your link I can do it if you want to step aside. I'll holler if I need help :-). All the best, Miniapolis 00:29, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
- Please let me know if you would like me to continue to deliver newsletters. Alternatively, newsletters can now be delivered by admin Miniapolis using the new MediaWiki message thingy. Detailed instructions are available here. -- Diannaa (talk) 20:40, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
- I've created the barnstars page; just tick 'em off as you award them. I've also updated the newsletter (thanks, Baffle). Miniapolis 00:39, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
March drive
I've created the March drive page and an invitation. Feedback welcome. All the best, Miniapolis 02:24, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
- Looks good. I fixed the Intro page link to the previous drive's Barnstars page; I always get tripped up by that one. – Jonesey95 (talk) 06:38, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
No barnstars, please
Since we're nearing the end of the drive and will be busy enough as it is, whoever gives out the barnstars and leaderboard stuff doesn't have to give any to me. Virtue is its own reward :-). All the best, Miniapolis 23:43, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
- Ditto for me too. ;-) Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 05:53, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
- ...and with the blitz ending, please consider this a permanent notification :-). All the best, Miniapolis 16:50, 19 April 2014 (UTC)
- Same here; my ego is big enough already! :-D Thanks, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 00:43, 23 April 2014 (UTC)
March drive totals
I ran my script on the drive page and posted the results here. The leaderboard still needs to be created though. —Torchiest talkedits 04:04, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
- Leaderboard has been matched to the results table. I also "gave out" barnstars to the two editors who declined them. – Jonesey95 (talk) 04:41, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks very much (and good to see you, Torchiest!); I'll give some out later today. All the best, Miniapolis 13:40, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks to Miniapolis and Diannaa for giving out the barnstars. That's a wrap, less than 24 hours after the close of the drive. – Jonesey95 (talk) 01:29, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks very much (and good to see you, Torchiest!); I'll give some out later today. All the best, Miniapolis 13:40, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
April 2014 Newsletter
I've created the newsletter topsheet here, and the newsletter itself is here. I've left xx where numbers and dates need filling in. Please check the figures; I've probably got something wrong somewhere! I've left the Blitz line in; it can easily be removed if necessary. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 04:46, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks, Baffle; both look great (I counted 14 zero-articles from the 42, and changed 29 to 28). We have to decide about the April blitz (you know where I stand; I plan to work on the requests list this month :-)). Let me know when they're ready to go out. All the best, Miniapolis 13:51, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
- They look fine. There are 28 rows in the results table, so I think Anne's count is right. --Stfg (talk) 14:18, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
- I created the April blitz page. Any date preferences? I'm not particular. Once that is decided, the newsletter can go out. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:57, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
- I've no preference for subject or dates either, but I suggest around mid-month to allow folks a short break between drives. Can't work 'em too hard can we? :-) Thanks for checking and fixing the numbers Miniapolis; you see why I haven't been involved with drives before this one! :-D Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 23:33, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
- I created the April blitz page. Any date preferences? I'm not particular. Once that is decided, the newsletter can go out. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:57, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
- They look fine. There are 28 rows in the results table, so I think Anne's count is right. --Stfg (talk) 14:18, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
You people put me in charge, so I have picked a date and a theme for the blitz. The newsletter is ready to distribute, and I believe that the blitz page is ready for public consumption.
Please remember to close the table on the newsletter this time, or whatever the problem was last month. – Jonesey95 (talk) 01:31, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
Closing the April blitz
I have created a draft Barnstars page for the blitz. Can someone please check my math and compare the numbers to the Blitz page? I put it together quickly, so there may be errors.
We can wait for a half-day or so for people to enter their final notes, if there are any.
It looks like we had eight editors copy edit over 109,000 words, completing 28 requested articles. That's a heck of a week, and about as much as we typically get done in a month of requests. Solid work.
We'll need a newsletter and a May drive page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 01:16, 20 April 2014 (UTC)
- I created the newsletter; please tweak as needed before I send it (especially the article total, because I got 15 from the blitz page rather than 28). All the best, Miniapolis 23:12, 20 April 2014 (UTC)
Blitz vs. drive barnstars
I began giving out the blitz barnstars, thinking that the word-count criteria were the same as here. However, to my chagrin I found that the word-count criteria are actually different for blitzes. I don't have the time (or the inclination) to re-correct what I already corrected, and suggest that a given word count should earn a given barnstar wherever. Since there's not a lot of us doing this, it's a good idea to work smart. All the best, Miniapolis 22:37, 20 April 2014 (UTC)
- I'd speculate that the reason for the lower awards for blitzes is because blitzes are shorter than drives, which makes sense if one wants to encourage participation in a shorter event. However I can see that having the same award criteria as drives would make coordinators' lives a little easier. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 22:49, 20 April 2014 (UTC)
- I'm OK with consolidating the barnstars to a single page, or even to single number thresholds, to alleviate this confusion, but I think that (1) we should give out the correct barnstars this time (I'll be happy to do it) and (2) Baffle gab's speculation is correct that blitzes are short, so word count thresholds were made lower. OK with me correcting the correction and issuing the blitz barnstars? – Jonesey95 (talk) 02:47, 21 April 2014 (UTC)
- Since barnstars are already distributed, it may be better to let sleeping dogs lie. Until yesterday, I had no idea that the drive and blitz barnstars had different word counts; only the top of the barnstars list (before the light bulb went on here :-)) is incorrect. On future barnstar pages, it may be a good idea to list the awards (it's easy to copy-paste from the drive or blitz page); it goes much faster when you don't have to bounce back and forth. All the best, Miniapolis 14:10, 21 April 2014 (UTC)
- I'm OK with consolidating the barnstars to a single page, or even to single number thresholds, to alleviate this confusion, but I think that (1) we should give out the correct barnstars this time (I'll be happy to do it) and (2) Baffle gab's speculation is correct that blitzes are short, so word count thresholds were made lower. OK with me correcting the correction and issuing the blitz barnstars? – Jonesey95 (talk) 02:47, 21 April 2014 (UTC)
List of easy articles
Please take a look at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Backlog elimination drives/May 2014 with my list of easy articles for newbies. I am sure that more articles can be added, and perhaps some of my choices are not easy enough. I suggest that experienced editors keep an eye on these articles, and help the newbies become proficient copyeditors. Please don't do them until the end of the month. Please make changes there, and comments to me right here.--DThomsen8 (talk) 14:03, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
June blitz, newsletter and election pages
Because June is a busy month, I've created the template pages for the June Blitz, election and newsletter pages. Variables are marked with "xx". Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 23:44, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
- I made a couple of minor edits and suggested dates. I'm not tied to them, but they seemed to make sense.
- Should we go with Requests as the theme again? It certainly takes a nice bite out of the queue. – Jonesey95 (talk) 03:37, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
- I second the dates June 1-14 for the nominations; I think 15-28 is sensible to allow us time to inform successful candidates and a short change-over period if needed. I haven't decided whether to self-nom yet, but I probably will.
- I'm all for reducing the Requests queue so I second your proposal. I think next time though we (or incoming co-ords) ought to choose a subject-based theme to avoid stagnation in the blitzes; perhaps they could alternate between a subject-based theme and the Requests page—we need to keep people interested. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 03:57, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
- Alternating between requests topics is a good idea. It's great to see the requests getting cleared quicker. Otoh, one of the things Torchiest mentioned when he set up the blitzes was that working on a topic helps to make us visible to the Wikiprojects we've (hopefully) helped. --Stfg (talk) 10:15, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
- Indeed. Promoting ourselves to WikiProjects can lead to new copy editors. Clearing out the requests list leads to... more requests. ;-) —Torchiest talkedits 13:23, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
- I like working on articles within a theme or project as well. Any suggestions? – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:32, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
- WikiProject Politics comes up with 37 results. It's a pretty broad project, so there's a variety of topics. —Torchiest talkedits 03:13, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
- I like working on articles within a theme or project as well. Any suggestions? – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:32, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
- Indeed. Promoting ourselves to WikiProjects can lead to new copy editors. Clearing out the requests list leads to... more requests. ;-) —Torchiest talkedits 13:23, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
- Alternating between requests topics is a good idea. It's great to see the requests getting cleared quicker. Otoh, one of the things Torchiest mentioned when he set up the blitzes was that working on a topic helps to make us visible to the Wikiprojects we've (hopefully) helped. --Stfg (talk) 10:15, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
I second that; it's an achievable target and a subject that should interest many editors. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 05:03, 29 May 2014 (UTC)
- I agree that it is a good subject. Note that some articles are only a section to do, and not a long article. For example, Svoboda (political party) is only the section on "Post-2012 elections and Euromaidan campaign." --DThomsen8 (talk) 17:52, 29 May 2014 (UTC)
- OK, let's do it. I have pasted the article list into the blitz page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 00:14, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
- Dates? I think June 8–14 or 15–21 are the most reasonable ranges. Any coordinator who wants to pick one of those ranges and put them in the newsletter and the blitz page will hear no objections from me. – Jonesey95 (talk) 00:21, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
- Done—15 to 21 it is. I hope everyone's okay with that. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 23:14, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
- Dates? I think June 8–14 or 15–21 are the most reasonable ranges. Any coordinator who wants to pick one of those ranges and put them in the newsletter and the blitz page will hear no objections from me. – Jonesey95 (talk) 00:21, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
- OK, let's do it. I have pasted the article list into the blitz page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 00:14, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
I think the June newsletter is ready to go. Anyone want to check it? Who will send it out? Thanks. – Jonesey95 (talk) 04:17, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
Thx
Hi all
Thanks for all your help and support over the last few months, things have been difficult here in RL and I have appreciated all the kind words. Apologies for my last attempt at a copyedit, those RL issues really did get in the way and left me feeling bad about the periods of inactivity whilst trying to complete the CE. I had intimated a return to copyediting and the drives, so rather just disappear without explanation ...
I was supposed to be moving house at the end of August, after an operation in March/April, and was looking forwards to some free time in-between and a return to editing and GOCE. The operation was cancelled as it appeared I was OK by the beginning of March, and the moving date was brought forwards. Due to situations beyond my control the moving date was brought forwards again, and I relaspsed that same week. In short, I am stuffed and am going to have to take a Wikibreak. I will be back at the end of July after the operation and recovery and then my move and settling in period. It is clear that I will just have to limit my activities to editing when I can and that might be as little as once a week for an hour or two (I can sense the withdrawls coming already).
I cannot commit to GOCE as I wanted to until then, and as GOCE and the Robotics Project are my Wikiworld, I thought I should at least explain a little more to you all - you have been wonderful and supportive and I will return in two months! Chaosdruid (talk) 12:01, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
- Sorry to hear about all your difficulties! But don't worry about it. Recover, rest, relocate, and return when you're ready. We'll be here, pushing back at the wall of gibberish like always. —Torchiest talkedits 12:12, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
- RL comes first. Take care and rest when you can (difficult, I know, when you're moving house :-)); we'll be here when you get back. Wishing you a speedy recovery and all the best, Miniapolis 13:17, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
- Best wishes from me also. I wish you good success with your medical condition and hope you come back to us soon. -- Diannaa (talk) 14:08, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
- Likewise. Good luck with the operation and the house move. I look forward to seeing you back here well and settled. --Stfg (talk) 14:26, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
- Chaosdruid, I echo the sentiments above and wish you well and hope your move and operation go well. Of course real life must come first; please don't feel bad about not being able to edit here. Have a good break from Wiki and look forward to your return. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 21:59, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
- Best wishes from me also. I wish you good success with your medical condition and hope you come back to us soon. -- Diannaa (talk) 14:08, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
- RL comes first. Take care and rest when you can (difficult, I know, when you're moving house :-)); we'll be here when you get back. Wishing you a speedy recovery and all the best, Miniapolis 13:17, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
May totals finished
I've added the results table here. For Lfstevens, he didn't update his numbers much on the main page, but he keeps separate lists when he does his big push months. He has 602 articles on that list, and I just added 80,000 words to his total, figuring he almost certainly averaged 133 words per article. —Torchiest talkedits 14:04, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks to Lfstevens epic effort, the number of articles in the backlog is the lowest it's been since we started keeping records in 2009. Kudos -- Diannaa (talk) 14:11, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
The barnstars are done (not by me...). Nice work. – Jonesey95 (talk) 04:15, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
Ombox at the top of blitz and drive pages?
Should we put the Ombox on the blitz and drive pages? It is one of the main ways that we get time-sensitive news out to active copy editors. I think it would be a good idea.
If I were inserting it, I might shrink it a bit, maybe just making the font size 100%. Some sandboxing may be in order. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:27, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
- I'd like to see the Ombox presented there, though considering that editors probably use the Ombox to navigate their ways to the blitzes and drives, it would seem redundant to tell them about an event they're already participating in. I also think it would add extra clutter to the pages, which already have three lines of links with the navigation template. it would be good to see a sandboxed version to see how it would work. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 16:07, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
- I agree with Baffle; I think it's redundant, but a sandbox version may prove me wrong. All the best, Miniapolis 00:07, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
- Where do people see it, if not the drive/blitz pages? I imagine that those are the most frequently viewed pages by active GOCE members, but I could be wrong. – Jonesey95 (talk) 03:38, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
- Obviously I don't know where others see the Ombox or make their ways to the drives and blitzes; I normally navigate to them through the Ombox on the Requests page or through my contribs page. I realise drives and blitzes aren't the only things we promote using the Ombox; elections are pretty important of course! But they are the things I've most frequently been placing there, so it seems to me redundant to tell an editor about a a page s/he's just arrived at from elsewhere. Anyway i'll put a mock-up in my sandbox; see what you think. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 23:49, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
- There's a sandboxed version of the March drive page in my sandbox. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 23:58, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
- Obviously I don't know where others see the Ombox or make their ways to the drives and blitzes; I normally navigate to them through the Ombox on the Requests page or through my contribs page. I realise drives and blitzes aren't the only things we promote using the Ombox; elections are pretty important of course! But they are the things I've most frequently been placing there, so it seems to me redundant to tell an editor about a a page s/he's just arrived at from elsewhere. Anyway i'll put a mock-up in my sandbox; see what you think. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 23:49, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
- Where do people see it, if not the drive/blitz pages? I imagine that those are the most frequently viewed pages by active GOCE members, but I could be wrong. – Jonesey95 (talk) 03:38, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
- I agree with Baffle; I think it's redundant, but a sandbox version may prove me wrong. All the best, Miniapolis 00:07, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
What to do while ...?
I've raised an SPI on the requester of WP:GOCE/REQ#Justin Bieber, but am not sure what we do with such a request pending the SPI being processed. Any ideas? --Stfg (talk) 19:47, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
- Innocent until proven guilty? I would let it sit on the list. If there are any Beliebers among us, someone will have fun copy editing the article soon. If not, it will probably sit for a few weeks as it works its way to the top of the queue. – Jonesey95 (talk) 20:00, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
June blitz barnstar table question
Although the table is sortable, when I tried to sort the "Word count award" column (to make giving out the barnstars easier :-)) the "Overall Totals" row gets mixed in and the only way I can fix it is to refresh the page (which, of course, loses the sorting). If we eliminate that row the table's truly sortable, but if we need to keep track of total words and articles (and I'm not sure we do) maybe we need to lose the "sortable" attribute or whatever it's called. Thoughts? All the best, Miniapolis 00:47, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
- I added a
{{Hs}}
template to each cell in the Totals row, which adds a hidden sort key. There is probably a more elegant way to do it. It works in all of the columns except the Old Rollover Totals; I can't explain that one.
- Does that make things work better for you? And thanks for distributing the barnstars! – Jonesey95 (talk) 02:04, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
July drive invitation / newsletter
Hi all; I've created the July newsletter page here; please feel free to make any necessary changes. The usual variables are marked with asterisks; I'll have a go at filling in the blitz data. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 01:33, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
- Looks good so far. -- Diannaa (talk) 03:17, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
- I made some edits. I think it's done. – Jonesey95 (talk) 06:49, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks, Jonesey and Diannaa; I've added a thanks for work at the Requests page too. Do we need a topsheet for the NL? Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 14:00, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
- I made some edits. I think it's done. – Jonesey95 (talk) 06:49, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
- (ec) I made a topsheet, as the newsletter is kinda long. Please review, and I will do the send-out shortly: Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Newsletters/July 2014/Topsheet -- Diannaa (talk) 16:28, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
August Newsletter
I've created the August newsletter page for completion here; variables are marked with X's. This one should be quite short so I've not created a topsheet. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 01:47, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
- Looks good, Baffle. Thanks and all the best, Miniapolis 13:24, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
- I note from his talk page Jonesey95 will be on wikibreak from 1st to 10th of August. Any suggestions for dates and a theme for the August Blitz, so we can promote and set up the pages? I'm going to Airgate for my hols so I'll be around all month. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 23:34, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
- See suggestion below. Maybe not a Blitz.--DThomsen8 (talk) 23:58, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
- Yes, I was just about to come over here to post that I'll be away from WP for a week, so I won't be able to do any of the post-drive stuff or discuss a blitz topic (unless we can settle on something in the next 24 hours or so). I might be able to set up the blitz page before I go. – Jonesey95 (talk) 05:10, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
- See suggestion below. Maybe not a Blitz.--DThomsen8 (talk) 23:58, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
August blitz theme ideas
Some theme ideas:
- Requests (we did this in February and April, and the Requests queue is smaller these days than it has been for a while)
- June 2013 articles (currently 33 articles)
- Some sort of WikiProject. I get an error when trying to run catscan right now, but maybe something broad like Wikiproject Europe or Wikiproject History.
- Some combination of the above. We have edited about 20–30 articles during each blitz so far this year, so don't get too ambitious. – Jonesey95 (talk) 05:27, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
- Hello everyone! I'm back from a wikibreak. We need to get an August theme and dates chosen ASAP. I'll do it if nobody else steps up. – Jonesey95 (talk) 03:33, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
Blitz set up, time to distribute the newsletter
I have finished setting up the blitz after being away from serious WP work for a while. The newsletter is done and ready to distribute.
I will be away from WP for the start of the blitz. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:52, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
Articles reviewed by the Guild of Copy Editors - August effort?
My effort so far on the July drive has been the addition of {{GOCEreviewed|user=Dthomsen8|date=July 2014|issues=Awaiting deletion results before copyediting}} on the talk pages of articles with PROD or AfD tag. Articles go in Category:Articles reviewed by the Guild of Copy Editors and disappear from the category if actually deleted. Perhaps the GOCEreviewed tag may be deleted for other reasons by editors who see it and realize it should go, and a copyedit tag placed on the article. Currently there are 826 articles in the category.
My suggestion is an August effort to look over those articles and change them into active copyedit tags where appropriate. Yes, I understand that this will add to our backlog, but at least some of these articles are worthy of our efforts. Perhaps we could place them in a different category from our usual backlog, and count them differently (maybe extra credit?) in the next blitzes or drives. What do you think?--DThomsen8 (talk) 23:54, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
- Sounds like a good idea to me. Thanks for the suggestion and all the best, Miniapolis 01:39, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
- I replied here. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 03:05, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
GOCE members at Wikimania 2014
Will there be any other GOCE members at Wikimania 2014? I leave for Gatwick on Saturday evening from Newark. --DThomsen8 (talk) 00:53, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
- I replied here. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 01:34, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
July drive totals
I've built the table here, but I don't have time to hand out anything right now. Cheers. —Torchiest talkedits 13:34, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
Newbies on the requests page (and in drives generally)
I've received two mentorship requests in the last 24 hours. I don't know if new copyeditors are being sent to me or are finding me on their own, but a concern is that they've both signed up for the August blitz (focusing, appropriately, on the requests page). Although there's a caveat (often ignored; I should know, since I ignored it myself when I started :-)) that newcomers shouldn't copyedit request articles until they have some experience, we've had periodic complaints from request-page regulars about copyedit quality by new copyeditors. Another issue is that some copyeditors (not all new) see mainly the "contest" aspect of the drives and blitzes and forget that the object of the game is more than winning a barnstar or leaderboard award. Incentives have their place, but I think that while newcomers shouldn't be discouraged from participating in the drives and (non-request) blitzes, they don't need to be particularly encouraged either. They'll find them on their own, and I hope this groundswell of interest (accompanied by shaky grammar) isn't just to get a barnstar. Thoughts? All the best, Miniapolis 13:40, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
- It may be a good idea to have veteran copy editors review all completed Requests before archiving them. I will be happy to review some of them. I added a note to the Blitz page about Requests and the GA criteria. Maybe an additional, more-detailed note on the Blitz's Talk page would be a good idea once the blitz gets started. It could include links to GA and FA prose criteria. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:53, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
- Thing is, nobody likes to be told their written language skills are shaky and they might not even realise just how shaky they are (see Dunning–Kruger effect). I too hate to discourage newbies, who might turn out to be great copy-editors, and I hate to be prescriptive. We could encourage copy-editors to inform requesters with the {{GOCEstartce}} template, and maybe even make it a prerequisite for drives and blitzes. If you want, I could make a version of the template to be used during drives and blitzes. I'm also happy to check some copy-edits; but what do we say to copy-editors if their c/es are found wanting? As usual, implementing simple QC checks throws up problems. Just my 2d worth. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 22:12, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks to you both for the thoughtful (and thought-provoking) feedback. I'm not sure it's feasible to vet all completed requests before archiving. The archiving alone is time-consuming; I wish there was a way to archive by month instead of scrolling down the extremely-long page. Baffle, you're right that there's no pain-free way to tell someone that their work's not up to par. One of my mentees (much as I dislike that word :-)) took my hint about the requests page and said they'll wait for September (which is only a few days away), and I guess the best thing is to wait for complaints and put the fires out then (as we've been doing). The GA and FA prose criteria are vague, mainly mentioning compliance with the MOS. All the best, Miniapolis 00:11, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
- Thing is, nobody likes to be told their written language skills are shaky and they might not even realise just how shaky they are (see Dunning–Kruger effect). I too hate to discourage newbies, who might turn out to be great copy-editors, and I hate to be prescriptive. We could encourage copy-editors to inform requesters with the {{GOCEstartce}} template, and maybe even make it a prerequisite for drives and blitzes. If you want, I could make a version of the template to be used during drives and blitzes. I'm also happy to check some copy-edits; but what do we say to copy-editors if their c/es are found wanting? As usual, implementing simple QC checks throws up problems. Just my 2d worth. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 22:12, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
Copy edit needs reviewing
Hi all. I've just returned the "completed" request for Equilibrium (film) to the request page, from which it had been deleted without archiving, and I took a quick look at the "copy edit" done. As noted on the request page and at the copy editor's talk page, there are all sorts of problems with it. Please could one of you take a close look and decide what should be done here? TIA. Simon. --Stfg (talk) 17:24, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
- I reviewed the changes and am unhappy with the copy-edit; although there were some good changes, most of them don't seem to have improved the article. The plot section is over-lengthy but the c/e seems to have cut details arbitrarily I've thus reverted to the pre-c/e version here. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 19:20, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
- Done I have copy edited this article after it was reverted. Feel free to review my edits and see what I have missed. Please don't treat my edits differently just because I am a GOCE coordinator.
- TheQ Editor: This is a courtesy ping to let you know that your edits are being discussed here. – Jonesey95 (talk) 21:03, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
- @Jonesey95: would I ever treat your edits differently just because you're a GOCE coordinator?! I found the deliberate error --Stfg (talk) 22:08, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
- @Jonesey95:, thanks for the ping. I looked over the changes and have learned quite a lot from it. It's just that while reading from WP:FILMPLOT, it states that "Plot summaries for feature films should be between 400 and 700 words." I checked over the current version's plot length and it is around 1000. There are still some parts where it includes minor details, some parts the audience doesn't need to know about to understand the plot. Cheers, ΤheQ Editor Talk? 23:24, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
- @Jonesey95: would I ever treat your edits differently just because you're a GOCE coordinator?! I found the deliberate error --Stfg (talk) 22:08, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
More QC blues
This is nuts. I'm afraid to archive anything not done by me or another one of the regulars, and it's just too much work to check every copyedit by our herd of newbies (especially since they're working way too fast on FACs). I finally asked Valfury how they heard of the GOCE, after an FAC critiqued with "clunky prose" in a PR got a lick and a promise. We owe the editors who trust us more than this. Where the hell are all these new copyeditors coming from? Miniapolis 22:26, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
We seem to be being gamed, if not trolled; one editor has a number of requests, with one or two editors (one of whom is Wilhelmina Will) doing all the copyediting. This sucks. Miniapolis 22:47, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
Valfury is out of control; see the bottom of the requests page (I'm not sure if they're working in tandem with Junperson). This degree of disruption is unprecedented in my experience. Miniapolis 22:55, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
On an unrelated matter, the blitz progress page needs updating (hasn't been done since the 26th) but I don't know how to handle the "Daily articles edited" parameter (especially with the requests page the mess it is now). FWIW, I've always had mixed feelings about the blitzes; we obviously can't have another request-page blitz, and in any event (since I enjoy working on requests) this will probably be my last one. Miniapolis 23:51, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
- I've checked a few of Valfury's c/es; the ones for the Brazilian swimmers seem to be fine, though they don't seem to need a huge amount of work so I've let those go. After seeing your review of his/her c/e of Loving You (1957 film), I unarchived and returned it to the Requests page. His/her edits there were helpful ones, but as you say they're not thorough enough for a GAN. I spotted some text that needs work, including some WP:SAID fixes—which the GA criteria requires compliance with.
- You're right Miniapolis; there's some odd stuff going on around the Guild at the moment. Wilhelmina Will is an old hand and should know the ropes; she's been taking part in drives and blitzes for years. I have some suspicions about Junperson's past and it doesn't take Sherlock Holmes to work that one out (check our 2014 request archives), but I'm not sure it's connected to what's going on here. Unless someone's socking, the only thing I can think might be channelling no0bs our way is the Wikimania event that Dthomsen8 attended earlier this month. I wonder if that's anything to do with it. Perhaps the moon is in the wrong sign for copy-editing at the moment... :~\ Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 04:35, 29 August 2014 (UTC)
- That may be the reason in some cases, but several of the newbies are from North America. As for the moon ... well, perhaps we didn't ought to attract people to the requests page during the school holidays in future? I agree with you about Valfury. The changes they do make are good; they just need to make more of them. --Stfg (talk) 12:34, 29 August 2014 (UTC)
- Yes, I probably came down too hard on Valfury and will apologize. Some of the timestamps (but not all—you're right, Simon) suggest the UK and Baffle, you may be right about the Teahouse sending editors here as well as Wikimania. WW is strange; I remember them being all over WikiProject Wikify when I was active there. I wonder if part of the problem is that the Guild may have become too contest-oriented. When I joined in late 2010 there were just the bimonthly drives, and that and the requests page were enough to keep the regulars amused. We may be sending a different message (do something to an article, win a barnstar) than we intend to. Thanks for the replies and all the best, Miniapolis 15:50, 29 August 2014 (UTC)
- That may be the reason in some cases, but several of the newbies are from North America. As for the moon ... well, perhaps we didn't ought to attract people to the requests page during the school holidays in future? I agree with you about Valfury. The changes they do make are good; they just need to make more of them. --Stfg (talk) 12:34, 29 August 2014 (UTC)
I am reviewing the articles marked as Done during the August blitz. I am restoring a few of them that are still in need of copy editing to the Requests page. It's not all bad – most of the ones I have reviewed so far were improved during the blitz and have been improved more since then. – Jonesey95 (talk) 03:42, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
- Done reviewing. I returned only two articles to the Requests page. Let's put this unpleasantness behind us. – Jonesey95 (talk) 04:36, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
Mentorship program, tabs and proposed housekeeping
Found the reason two editors in two days asked me to mentor them: I'm the only warm body left on the mentorship program page. Since I don't want to be the only "official" mentor and others have been willing to informally mentor (I will too), I'd like to mark the page historical and remove it and WP:GOCE/CEM from the tabs for less clutter. Any objections? I'd also like to mark Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Software historical (or G6 it); it was created and edited a handful of times by one editor early last year, with nothing done since. Also, can we G6 WP:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Requests/Potential Featured Articles and its redirect (WP:GOCE/FA)? Both pages haven't been used for a couple of years, since the FACs were moved to the requests page. WP:GOCELOG is a redirect to a single backlog-reduction drive (September 2013). I'd like to get rid of unnecessary drop-down search results when editors type "WP:GOCE". All the best, Miniapolis 20:07, 29 August 2014 (UTC)
- Good idea to tidy up. Those all look fine to me, but pinging Dank about the software page and Torchiest about the CEM. --Stfg (talk) 20:58, 29 August 2014 (UTC)
- No objection. - Dank (push to talk) 22:16, 29 August 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks for the pings, Simon; Dank, sorry I didn't. No rush here; I'll wait to hear from Torchiest about that page (and am just planning to remove the tab, since it's inactive). All the best, Miniapolis 22:52, 29 August 2014 (UTC)
- Oh sorry, I dropped a cog. I don't think removing the tab is controversial, if we're keeping the page (as historical). The CEMs have been inactive for ages, so the tab isn't needed. Cheers, Simon. --Stfg (talk) 23:31, 29 August 2014 (UTC)
- I'm fine with all that. We can always re-add it later if there's a groundswell of popular demand (not likely :). —Torchiest talkedits 11:26, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks all. Miniapolis 13:29, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
- No objections to tidying up; the mentoring program can always be re-started if any editors think it's needed. I'd prefer that pupils pay attention in their English classes, but we can't have everything. ;-) Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 00:41, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks all. Miniapolis 13:29, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
- I'm fine with all that. We can always re-add it later if there's a groundswell of popular demand (not likely :). —Torchiest talkedits 11:26, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
- Oh sorry, I dropped a cog. I don't think removing the tab is controversial, if we're keeping the page (as historical). The CEMs have been inactive for ages, so the tab isn't needed. Cheers, Simon. --Stfg (talk) 23:31, 29 August 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks for the pings, Simon; Dank, sorry I didn't. No rush here; I'll wait to hear from Torchiest about that page (and am just planning to remove the tab, since it's inactive). All the best, Miniapolis 22:52, 29 August 2014 (UTC)
- No objection. - Dank (push to talk) 22:16, 29 August 2014 (UTC)
August blitz barnstars page...
...is here. Miniapolis 15:28, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
October Blitz
What are the planned dates for this month's Blitz? The page is here. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 02:33, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks, but after the August fiasco my opinion about blitzes is no secret :-). All the best, Miniapolis 13:46, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
- Not Requests, certainly. The dates would have to be October 19–25.
- I think the Blitzes with project-related themes have been fun. I'm hoping the August Requests blitz was just an anomaly.
- Ideas for a theme? I tried a few WikiProjects that came to mind randomly, like WikiProject Albums (13 articles), WikiProject History (15 articles). We have edited about 20 articles in previous blitzes.
- We could also just focus on the July 2013 backlog month. There are currently 54 articles there. Preferences? – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:18, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks Jonesey; how about History and Albums? That gives us 28 articles to choose from, and I think it's possible at least one will be completed. Miniapolis, I also hope the August fiasco won't be repeated. I'll put the dates on the page. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 18:58, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
- History and Albums works for me. That gives us some variety. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:15, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
- Done. I think the blitz page is ready for public consumption. We may need to update the article list (use the two catscan links above, if they are functional at the time) just before the blitz opens.
- History and Albums works for me. That gives us some variety. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:15, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks Jonesey; how about History and Albums? That gives us 28 articles to choose from, and I think it's possible at least one will be completed. Miniapolis, I also hope the August fiasco won't be repeated. I'll put the dates on the page. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 18:58, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
- We could also just focus on the July 2013 backlog month. There are currently 54 articles there. Preferences? – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:18, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
- We need a newsletter to close out the September drive (and maybe mention the August blitz) and announce the October blitz. – Jonesey95 (talk) 20:41, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
- I'm on it here. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 21:18, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
- The NL is ready for checking; I'd have liked to include the graph but it hasn't been updated since June. Topsheet is here. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 22:33, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
(Outdent) Both look good; thanks, Baffle. All the best, Miniapolis 22:55, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
- They're ready to send then, unless anyone wants to add or alter anything. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 23:51, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
- Sending -- Diannaa (talk) 00:14, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
- Baffle gab1978, I updated the graph. – Jonesey95 (talk) 01:05, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks Jonesey; I'll insert it in a bit. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 02:02, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
- Baffle gab1978, I updated the graph. – Jonesey95 (talk) 01:05, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
- Sending -- Diannaa (talk) 00:14, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
(←) So who's noticed the deliberate mistake in the topsheet? *facepalm* :-D Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 02:57, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
- What mistake? I think we should mention the election results in every topsheet, just to remind people who is responsible for the late newsletters, hastily-constructed blitzes on poorly-chosen themes, etc. Your duly elected Lead Coordinator, – Jonesey95 (talk) 03:59, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
November drive
I will be away from WP for the start of the drive. Can someone please remember to update the article counts on Oct 31 at 23:59 UTC? Thanks. – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:11, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
- I'll try; I need to work out how to do that first! ;-) Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 00:15, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
- I should be around too. All the best, Miniapolis 00:58, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
- First, load the drive page and click "refresh" at the top of the list of backlog months. Then, manually add the numbers for the oldest three months (the drive's target months). Also make a note of the total number of articles in the backlog (in the same list).
- I should be around too. All the best, Miniapolis 00:58, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
- Edit the "Progress chart" section. Find the "GAN changes" row for October 31, and replace the last two numbers with the old article count and the backlog count, respectively. That's what you do on October 31 at 23:59 UTC.
- To add a row to the Progress chart at 23:59 UTC each day, copy the row above it, change the day, replace the old article count, and then – this is the tricky part – you need three backlog totals. In order, they are the current backlog total, the previous day's total, and the total at the start of the drive. After a few days, you'll end up with something like this:
{{GAN changes|2014|10|31|330|2484}} {{GAN changes|2014|11|1|324|2481|2484|2484}} {{GAN changes|2014|11|2|310|2473|2480|2484}}
- Which makes the progress chart look like this:
Date |
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31 October 2014 | 330 | 2,484 | — | — |
1 November 2014 | 324 | 2,481 | 3 | 3 |
2 November 2014 | 310 | 2,473 | 7 | 11 |
Hand-holding
Is it just me, or is the GOCE average age falling? In four years here, I've never seen such a need for mentoring (a first copyedit a request article, followed by "Help! Please check this"). We may not be emphasizing enough that WP:GOCE/REQ is for seasoned copyeditors, and I wonder if at least some of our newer copyeditors know that the backlog even exists. I'd much rather copyedit than grade papers, as it were, and don't remember this being as much of a problem in the past. It's hard to get the work done with the need for this much checking. Thoughts? All the best, Miniapolis 21:23, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
- I've also wondered where these newbie editors are coming from; is someone or some other project funneling them our way? I'll be doing drive c/e checks this week; I've been doing other GOCE stuff, like article vetting. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 05:35, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
Blitz idea: trim the big months
Just an idea that came to me for a blitz: backlog months with over 100 articles in them. Sometimes the oldest months have challenging articles in them, so they may be less fun for a blitz, but picking some of the lower-hanging fruit in the most populated months may be a good activity for newer copy editors. It also provides a diversity of articles.
Thoughts? Feel free to improve on this very rough idea. – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:21, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
- I'm in general agreement with this idea, but I'm a little concerned about those "challenging" articles. The ones I've removed from the backlog are totally unsuited for copy-editng in their current state; referencing problems, original research, fancruft, dodgy translations and copyvios abound. Some folk seem to see copy-editing as an article rescue service. If we can have a fortnight's notice of which month(s) will be blitzed, I'll be happy to vet the articles as I've been doing currently. All months except August 2013 have over 100 articles, so there's plenty of choice there! Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 05:46, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
Leaderboard updates
Is my brain sputtering, or did the drive-page leaderboard section once have instructions to update our own numbers? I think some of our newer copyeditors may think that someone else does it for them. If no one objects, I'll tack on a note to that effect. All the best, Miniapolis 16:32, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
- Hm. They used to be there. See, for example, the May 2013 drive. I don't have time right now to find out when they disappeared. I have restored them. – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:55, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
- It's probably my fault, since I created the current drive page. I noticed it's removed when the drive is hatted, so I must have done a copy/paste from a hatted version. Baffle gab1978 (talk) 22:22, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
Editor of the Week
Congratulations to my esteemed colleague, Baffle gab1978, for being named the WP Editor of the Week for the week beginning November 23. A well-deserved honor! All the best, Miniapolis 15:03, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks again Miniapolis; unfortunately my QC checks review1 don't seem to be too conducive to editor retention: diff1, diff2. :-/ Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 23:49, 24 November 2014 (UTC)