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An editor recently proposed most of [[:Category:BDO World Darts Championships]] for deletion, with the rationale "No sources. Has been tagged for more than four years. We don't know if this info is factual or not because there is no way to check it ([[WP:verifiability]]). [[wp:CHALLENGED#Anything_challenged_or_likely_to_be_challenged|Challenging]] the article, which should be removed.". I have removed the deletion tags on the grounds that these wouldn't be uncontroversial candidates for deletion, as required by [[WP:PROD]], but the proposer does have a point that most of these articles are totally unsourced. I don't have sources to hand to fix this, so could any of you darts aficionados do anything to sources these articles? [[User:Phil Bridger|Phil Bridger]] ([[User talk:Phil Bridger|talk]]) 20:45, 7 November 2010 (UTC) |
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Importance ratings
Hi, was just in the process of answering when you removed the question. Not sure if you're still curious, but the way I see it, individual editions of tournaments (even world championships) are all of low importance unless there is something out of the ordinary to push it above that.The world championships could possibly be assessed as mid importance, but not the lesser tournaments. Of course the parent articles will be assessed much higher.
What also that concerns me is whether individual editions of lower tournaments are sufficiently notable, with extensive independent reliably sourced coverage, to warrant articles at all. Regards, wjematherbigissue 08:57, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, but if you put individual tournaments like the World Grand Prix and GSoD low importance then smaller individual tournaments like the European Championship wouldn't fit in the Darts importance scale at all. Mr.Kennedy1 talk 09:20, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
- We cannot rate articles on that basis – we would need far more steps on the scale. Otherwise we could end up with this:
- Top – xxxx World Championship
- High – xxxx World Matchplay
- Mid – xxxx Grand Slam of Darts
- Low – xxxx European Championship
- However the general article is of higher importance than a single instance of it, so we would have to rate the World Matchplay as top importance alongside the World Championships, which we wouldn't want either.
- We just have to accept that the categories are broad. Therefore it is best to ignore relative importance to other articles. Most of our articles will be rated as low, with there being a wide spread of importance within that, and some will be very, very low. wjematherbigissue 09:50, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
- To explain further where I am coming from, I largely tend to see the importance ratings as an indication of priority rather than significance, based on what an average reader may want to find out about. That way it is much easier to assign ratings. wjematherbigissue 10:31, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
- Lets compare it to WP:FOOTBALL to see whats going on in other projects:
- 2010 FIFA World Cup - High
- FIFA World Cup - Top
- UEFA European Football Championship - High
- UEFA Euro 2008 - High
- FIFA Confederations Cup - Mid
- So, the smaller the tournament the lower the importance which is exactly the way we should do it, as for annual tournaments, it is usually around the same rating as the main article. Mr.Kennedy1 talk 11:55, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
- Lets compare it to WP:FOOTBALL to see whats going on in other projects:
- To explain further where I am coming from, I largely tend to see the importance ratings as an indication of priority rather than significance, based on what an average reader may want to find out about. That way it is much easier to assign ratings. wjematherbigissue 10:31, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
- We cannot rate articles on that basis – we would need far more steps on the scale. Otherwise we could end up with this:
[Outdent] The principal purpose of the importance ratings is for WP:1.0, so they can do triage and figure out what to include on hardcopy editions of various capacities (CD, DVD, DVD-9, whatever) of Wikipedia. WikiProjects also use them internally as a measure of priority (versus significance, per se - WP:BIOGRAPHY even renamed their |importance=
parameter to |priority=
). Keeping this in mind, it should not be terribly difficult to arrive at a balanced approach. My take on the matter (mostly at WP:CUE and WP:SNOOKER) has been something like this (with regard to events - players and other article types are handled differently):
- Top: The main article on the highest-level, global pro and highest level, global amateur event series. And that' it.
- High: Main articles on major pro and am world-scale event series; Darts in the Olympic Games could go here too; article on the current year's highest-level, global pro & am events (demote to Low next year); UEFA events (from the above example) can't rationally be this high, because they are European regional (cf. WP:BIAS). Yet by contrast, in snooker, all fully ranking tournaments would be at this importance level, even if named things like UK Snooker Championship, since they're all international and top-pros-only, regardless where they're held (i.e., the names are deceptive).
- Mid: Main articles on multinational but region- or continent-limited, non-global event series, such as Eur. championship, Asian Games, etc.
- Low: All other event-related articles, including national and sub-national events, demo/friendly/exposition/one-off events, defunct event series, and previous years' articles on events (at any level).
A particular event might be notable for some other reason (e.g., a terrorist bomb threat disrupted the event), but not to this project (in the bomb example, it would be of higher importance to WP:TERRORISM). And it wouldn't make any sense at all for a High year-specific article to be anything but Low the year after (perhaps even the month after) the event is over.
NB: I realize that not all sports/games projects importance-prioritize exactly as I've stated here. I strongly believe that they should, and that WP:SPORT should have a guideline about this so that treatment is consistent across various games.
— SMcCandlish Talk⇒ ʕ(Õلō)ˀ Contribs. 07:18, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
PS: Since this sport has two competing pro governing bodies with two competing World Championships, both (per WP:NPOV) should be Top-rated. We are not permitted to pick a favorite (yet I am already observing bias against the BDO event in WP materials; that has to stop). The two other "World" events would be High. — SMcCandlish Talk⇒ ʕ(Õلō)ˀ Contribs. 07:38, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
- So when this is settled, should we create a guideline for the project importance ratings? Mr.Kennedy1 talk guestbook 14:22, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
- I think it would be more productive to do this broadly, at WP:SPORT, since the same issues apply across all sports. — SMcCandlish Talk⇒ ʕ(Õلō)ˀ Contribs. 19:44, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
Adopt an article
To all project members, I noticed that the Adopt an article section is not being used, should it be kept or should we delete it? I think we should keep it as it is a good idea and if it were to be used, we could improve articles alot faster than we are now. Mr.Kennedy1 talk 11:29, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
Retiring
To all project members, I am not going to be editing on Wikipedia anymore so I ask that the project members keep this project going and develop it into a great project. Thank you to all that helped me along the way. Mr.Kennedy1 talk 16:41, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
David Hightower Smith
Just found this in the Professional Darts Corporation players category - David Hightower Smith. This player is not notable at all and the article must surely be a candidate for speedy deletion. CFuller (talk) 17:28, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
- Article doesn't give any clues to notability, either prod it or take it to AfD, I'd say. —Half Price 14:33, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
WikiProject cleanup listing
I have created together with Smallman12q a toolserver tool that shows a weekly-updated list of cleanup categories for WikiProjects, that can be used as a replacement for WolterBot and this WikiProject is among those that are already included (because it is a member of Category:WolterBot cleanup listing subscriptions). See the tool's wiki page, this project's listing in one big table or by categories and the index of WikiProjects. Svick (talk) 20:38, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
BDO world championships
An editor recently proposed most of Category:BDO World Darts Championships for deletion, with the rationale "No sources. Has been tagged for more than four years. We don't know if this info is factual or not because there is no way to check it (WP:verifiability). Challenging the article, which should be removed.". I have removed the deletion tags on the grounds that these wouldn't be uncontroversial candidates for deletion, as required by WP:PROD, but the proposer does have a point that most of these articles are totally unsourced. I don't have sources to hand to fix this, so could any of you darts aficionados do anything to sources these articles? Phil Bridger (talk) 20:45, 7 November 2010 (UTC)