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Hello fellow arab editors, your assistance is required. Effort to maintain these article to high standards and encorporate facts are being met with unreasonable opposition. If we can't prevent what's happening on ground, the least we can do is prevent it from happening in wikipedia. [[User:MiS-Saath|MiS-Saath]] ([[User talk:MiS-Saath|talk]]) 04:03, 4 August 2008 (UTC) |
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Requests for Arabic script should be posted here
Start talk
Great project. Just what Wikipedia needed. Great work Fayssal. CG 21:34, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
- Yes, spot on. Amazing that you could get it this comprehensive that swiftly. Funkynusayri 00:45, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
- Excellent work, Fayssal. Thank you.--▓▒░الأهواز ★ Al-Ahwaz░▒▓ 11:14, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
I've had the idea since a year or so now but i noted that not so many (enough) people were interested. I am sure this project would go beyond expectations (for the benefit of Wikipedia and its reader). I've also made sure that the title of the project reflects what we will be into. "Arab" or "Arab people" would only attract POV warriors of both sides (i am sure there are a few) but let this project be a big signal to every wikipedian; that we are here to build an encyclopedia and not to offer an arena or a ring for battles. Thanks again guys for your interest and hope we'd never get tired of making this project a good example that others would follow. Let's get ready for work. -- FayssalF - Wiki me up® 18:26, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
- Yes the choice of name is perfect. Thanks Fayssal. -- Slacker
22:18, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
- Hmmm, got a specific example? Funkynusayri 00:35, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
user pages
Is there any sort of banner or template that can be added to each member's userpage in order to communicate easily with other members and attract more interested members? --Aziz1005 01:15, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
- I have created this template {{WPARAB Member}} you can add it to your user pages if you want to!--Aziz1005 01:28, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
Thanks Aziz. Nice one. -- FayssalF - Wiki me up® 22:35, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
Articles
I'm very new to Wiki projects, and have a bit of difficulties getting around, but is there a way to see a list of all articles that are within the scope of the project, without having to browse through different categories? Funkynusayri 20:02, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
- I'm not quite sure but this may help. This page needs to be updated by a bot every few days--Aziz1005 14:54, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks, that seemed to do the trick! Funkynusayri 20:17, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
- Yup and that's the secret behind the bot. He is doing fantastic stuff ;) Another helpful way to help the bot is to add the {{WPARAB}} to the articles talk page. The project has identified a total of 183 Arab world related articles (see project statistics at the the assessment dept. here). Surely there are far more than that. -- FayssalF - Wiki me up® 22:39, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
A-Class review for Byzantine-Arab Wars now open
The A-Class review for Byzantine-Arab Wars is now open; all editors are invited to participate, and any input there would be appreciated! Thanks! -- FayssalF - Wiki me up® 22:40, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
FA-Class review for Quneitra now open
I added a FAC FA-Class review for Quneitra at the review department. Feel free to review the article. CG 09:23, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
Note For contributors who are still trying to figure out how teh labyrinth of this project is designed, the venue CG is pointing out to review articles is located at the Review dept. -- FayssalF - Wiki me up® 18:37, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
- Heh, I haven't participated much in the review discussions until now, simply because I didn't understand how it worked, but I'll participate from now on. Funkynusayri 12:57, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
- A good start would be reading the assessment criteria and see if the reviewed article really corresponds to the class (FA, GA, B). In this case we are reviewing it for a FA-Class. -- FayssalF - Wiki me up® 15:40, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
Does the Arab Wiki Project cover Al-Ahwaz/Khuzestan, an Arab-populated area of a non-Arab country? I refer in particular to the following articles and would like opinions on whether these should be included, as there appears to be some controversy over this, particularly my inclusion of the following articles in the project: Khūzestān Province Ahwaz Politics of Khūzestān Province History of Khūzestān Province Abadan Khorramshahr.--▓▒░الأهواز ★ Al-Ahwaz░▒▓ 13:51, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
- I believe they do, or maybe specific ones. All Arab related articles are within the scope. Funkynusayri 20:40, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
- I think yea, they do. Some articles such as Ctesiphon/Al-Madain which is in modern Iraq fall under the scope of WP Iran, since it is related to Iranian people this things applies to Arab people in the case of Ahwaz.--Aziz1005 13:09, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
I have placed a request for advice on this issue on the WikiProject Council talk page [1], as per FayssalF's suggestion.[2]--▓▒░الأهواز ★ Al-Ahwaz░▒▓ 13:19, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
- It has been 11 days since I put up a request on this at the WikiProject Council talk page, but there has been no response. Does anyone else have any idea about how I can get an answer to my question?--▓▒░الأهواز ★ Al-Ahwaz░▒▓ 18:02, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
- This subject is in dire need of attention (both wikipedian one and off-wikipedia...). Will anyone rally to the cause? i've started to make some improvements to Iranian Arabs and Politics of Khuzestan. MiS-Saath (talk) 07:47, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
Countries
Should we add the Arab project tag to individual Arab countries? Funkynusayri 16:14, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
- Definitely. -- FayssalF - Wiki me up® 20:12, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
- Ok, I just found it odd that it hadn't been done already, and thought there was some purpose with it... But I'll get started! Funkynusayri 20:13, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
- and that's why i added the assessment template to the navigation banner. I thought showing participants that only 209 articles which have been tagged so far- would encourage us to tag further more. -- FayssalF - Wiki me up® 20:24, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
Arabian Gulf
An anon IP put a link to the following document on my talk page [3], which appears to clarify the issue surrounding the name of the Arabian/Persian Gulf. It is written by Naftali Kadmon of The Hebrew University of Jerusalem, who is Convenor of the working group on toponymic terminology. He writes that no country has an exlusive right to name international waters. He writes: "Concerning the international waters or 'high seas', both names Sea of Japan and East Sea are neither endonyms nor exonyms. So are Persian Gulf and Arabian Gulf (unless the territorial waters of both sides meet in mid-Gulf). Both pairs are allonyms undefined from a terminological point of view, and they have equal status." This should inform those involved in writing articles relating to the Arabian Gulf.--▓▒░الأهواز ★ Al-Ahwaz░▒▓ 10:58, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
Asabiyyah / 'Asabiyyah
Hi. We have an article at Asabiyyah. I also see the spelling 'asabiyyah, both within that article and elsewhere within Wikipedia (eg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muqaddimah#.27Asabiyyah ). I am not an "Arabist", but I assume that those would be prounounced differently. I suspect that some of these spellings might be a problem with Wikipedia's markup conventions for formatting italic and bold text ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:How_to_edit_a_page#Character_formatting ). -- 201.19.93.178 10:54, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
Needed articles
Shouldn't we have a section with requests for the creation of needed articles (if anyone has suggestions)? Funkynusayri 22:14, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
- I think we have this section as a template called Template:WPARAB Announcements/Requested articles.--Aziz1005 15:29, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
- Ah, that's exactly what I was looking for, thanks again. Funkynusayri 15:31, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
- You welcome :) --Aziz1005 17:10, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
Merge
I don't see any problem with merging That Wikiproject to this Wikiproject if it's just about adding Arabic script to relevant articles.--Aziz1005 17:25, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
Note: I am not the one who added that Merge tag --Aziz1005 17:25, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
- Yeah. But then the other project should redirect to here, or what? Or could it become a task force? Funkynusayri 17:53, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
- Yea, I mean why don't we redirect it to here? since that wikiproject is seems to be inactive--Aziz1005 02:09, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
- Not sure I understand, you want to Soft redirect it here and keep the page? Or Merge into this leaving nothing but a redirect there? I recommend you rename the entire project to subpage of this project. That doesn't mean you must consider it a task force, necessarily. Would be nice to have a link on the main project page though. Just a suggestion. --Doug.(talk • contribs) 02:37, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
- Yeah, just a redirect, similarly to when they just made the Syriac Christianity project into a work-group within the Christianity project. Funkynusayri (talk) 21:57, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
possibly unfree image
I put up an Arab-world-related image (Image:Samir_Geagea_official_picture.jpg) at WP:PUI because I doubt that it is really GFDL-licensed, but I can't read Arabic so the source site is useless to me. If anyone is interested in keeping this image, go to the discussion at Wikipedia:Possibly_unfree_images/2007_October_12#Image:Samir_Geagea_official_picture.jpg Calliopejen1 15:37, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
- The website does not state clearly whether this image can be used under the GFDL or not. However, the concerned user may have contacted the website and got the permission. I think a link to the mainpage is not enugh to justify the usage--Aziz1005 15:09, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
Expert review: Tawfiq Il-Nimri
As part of the Notability wikiproject, I am trying to sort out whether Tawfiq Il-Nimri is notable enough for an own article. I would appreciate an expert opinion. For details, see the article's talk page. If you can spare some time, please add your comments there. Thanks! --B. Wolterding 16:33, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
- I'm no "expert", but it seems quite notably to me, just needs work. Funkynusayri 13:52, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
Help to correct & stop the manipulation
Hi..I thought it is worth mentioning that most, if not all, Arabic-related articles are being manipulated & biased by persians, I'm not excluding any Arab-related article such as Arab empire articles, Iraq-related articles, even in Baghdad article you'll see the name persian is mentioned more than Baghdad or Iraq or Arabic etc...but one of the most biased articles is the Iran-Iraq war......unfortunately persians are manipulating so many things to serve their persian nationalism & propaganda Iraswe —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.6.158.33 (talk) 00:38, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
- Of course it is the case. In relation to these articles, Wikipedia entries are the result of one POV being imposed by a well-organized gang of editors. Those who disagree become victims of an ethnic witch-hunt by these people. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.155.24.247 (talk) 13:43, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
- I expected this from the begining. Regardless, tell us how we can help. --Maha Odeh 06:39, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
New Template
Hellow everyone, I'm proposing to use this template (or something similar) on Arab personalities pages. What do you think? --Maha Odeh 09:09, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
- Great job Maha :) But I think this template is suitable for contemporary biographies only! don't you think so? --Aziz1005 13:42, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
- Are we all agreeing, or should we wait before we add the template to articles? Funkynusayri 06:18, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
good proposal Maha
I definetly think we should give it a try...it seems good, but also I think something immediately should be done for the majority of Arab-articles because the info. mentioned is not accurate & it is for sure manipulated and it seems that it has been written by the same source, typically is the Abbasid empire article, read the whole article & you'll definetely have an idea about who might have made it up. Anyway I'm a medical student & I'm having final exams the coming weeks and after finishing them I'll put some efforts to contribute to more for Arab-related articles, with my regards193.6.158.33 16:22, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
For the Arab World and Arabia
Good project, God bless you. Since I consider the history of Arabia amputated for modern political reasons and because of the conflict between Europe and Islam, I encourage the study of Arabia taking into consideration the evolution of language since the fall or Sumer until today. Nonetheless, the climatic changes that are always forgotten in considering the old Arabia, have contributed in confusing the image of Arabia throughout the ages and made Arabia look like the arid desert since ever, which is not true. Arabia Felix by the time of Abraham was a properous country with lush vegetation and torrential rains, from Nejd to Hijaz. This is what attaracted invaders like Babylon, Assyria, Egypt and even Rome to send military expeditions to subdue Arabia. A thorough geographical study of the Arabian Peninsula should be considered in the re-writing of history of Modern Arabia, taking as an example the hard limestone river bed in Diriya near Riyadh, how it is carved with water until the rocks are rounded by erosion. Also please consider the number of dry salt lakes between Riyadh and Gassim. I believe these are signs of an old moderate weather proving the climatic changes through the ages. Please read my contribution under Arabia Discussion. Respectfully, Noureddine 03:08, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
- Please dear Noureddine feel free to edit any Arab related article :) since we really need people to improve the quality of these articles, best regards--Aziz1005 14:02, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
Thank you Aziz for this is very encouraging. Let us open a new color of articles revealing what has not been written for lack of record reasons. Please read my contribution under Arabian Peninsula and send your comments. Noureddine 00:53, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
thank you very much for adding this page it could really help us —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.233.87.246 (talk) 01:56, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
I'm looking into an AfD debate on the article dealing with the Cairo Opera Company. The main problem we're having is that the article is in Arabic. I'd like to at least know what's being deleted, if it comes to that - and, perhaps, we could translate the article and work it into something work keeping. We've had no luck with the translation needed flag, so I thought I'd post a request here - if anyone wants to take a crack at translating the Cairo Opera Company article, or at least posting on its talk page explaining the contents, I'd be most grateful. Thanks in advance for your time and assistance. ZZ Claims ~ Evidence 05:06, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
Barnstar
Should we have an Arabian barn star, or does something similar already exist? Funkynusayri (talk) 23:43, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
- Heh, yes. Funkynusayri (talk) 23:06, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
Translation for Attil, West Bank
Marhaba everyone! I just want to ask if anyone can translate the article on Attil from Arabic wikipedia to English? I posted it on the translations log but the page is virtually dead, Heres the link, Wikipedia:Translation/Attil. Shoukran! --Al Ameer son (talk) 07:40, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
Help please
Hi everyone. I also posted this message at the WikiProject Ethnic groups:
We are having a discussion over Talk:Arab citizens of Israel about how to compose the ethnicity infobox for that page. It's a rather complex discussion, given that most, but not all of the group in question identify ethnically or nationally as "Palestinian", "Arab" or "Palestinian Arab". There are some arguing that "Arab citizens of Israel" or "Israeli Arabs" (as they are sometimes called, though most reject that label) are an ethnic group in their own right and seem to think there is no need to mention their relation to, or their forming a part of the Palestinian and/or Arab peoples. Rest assured these are the same people. They are separated from the others as a result of Israel's creation.
In any case, we could really use some expert attention. Someone well-versed on the differences and sometimes overlaps between citizenship, national identity, ethnic identity, cultural identity etc. Also, someone with some insight into how to represent indigenous populations, since Palestinian Arabs in Israel perceive themselves as an indigenous group. Ideally, we would like to represent the complexity of the issue in the infobox without compromising reader comprehension. So far, we haven't been able to find a solution. Your input is appreciated. Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Ethnic_groups" Tiamut 22:45, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
- Is the problem what infobox to use? They are certainly a sub-set of the wider Arab ethnic group, so the ethnic group infobox might be used. Look at Armenian-Americans for example. Funkynusayri (talk) 23:53, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
WikiProject Dubai
I thought I should notify members of the WikiProject Arab world that a WikiProject Dubai is currently being proposed at the WikiProject Council. If anyone is interested, please feel free to add your name. Click here to go directly to the proposal. Thanks. Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 00:14, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
Double checking Arabic meaning of a star name
Hi all, on the page Capella, if you scan down to Alternative and former names you'll note a name of Capella in Arabicas al-'Ayyuq العيوق
Can someone please verify what it means and give me a diciotnary ref? much appreaciated. cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 23:17, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
Invasion of Arab Articles...
not really... but several created articles that Include Al Ahwaz were either speedly deleted or Vandalised, or made as a redirect and then protected...
i think we need to give the Ahwaz region more attention... i created a three articles about Al Ahwaz...
but other articles such as Al Ahwaz, History of Al Ahwaz, and Ahwazi Exiled Government and the Parliment needed... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Arab League (talk • contribs) 14:38, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
Help needed
The article on Kuwait needs a lot of work. I have tried improving the article but any further help from this Wikiproject members would be greatly appreciated. --RajatKansal (talk) 18:54, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
WikiProject Arabic names
There has been little to no discussion, apparently, on the fate of Wikipedia:WikiProject Arabic names. I proposed on 27 January 2008 that this WikiProject be merged into Wikipedia:WikiProject Anthroponymy as a task force. Previously on 9 October 2007 the proposal had been floated to merge this WikiProject into Wikipedia:WikiProject Arab world.
I am preparing some notes on doing the transition to a task force of the Anthroponymy WikiProject and wanted to put forward another call for input.
One key question is whether members of this WikiProject prefer to have the Arab name articles included in their Assessment Talley or not. If inclusion in the Talley is desired, both {{WPARAB}} and {{WikiProject Anthroponymy}} need to be added to each article.
Thanks for considering this and providing your input.
- --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 17:19, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
I have no objections or comments. --Striver - talk 21:03, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- Same as above. Funkynusayri (talk) 02:09, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
The merger took place on 2008-04-03. --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 02:10, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
Need help at Al-Hariri of Basra
Can some Wikipedians add to the new article Al-Hariri of Basra? Are there public domain images from old editions? Badagnani (talk) 03:00, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
- I've slightly expanded it and did some wikification. I also uploaded an image from one his books al-Maqamat. --Al Ameer son (talk) 20:23, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
Syria in a poor state
Does anyone here have any slight expertise on Syria or any helpful online resources? Its very urgent, the article on Syria lacks dozens of inline citations, needs work on prose and above all, a section on the country's economy. I think Syria would be a good way for project members to collaborate as well. --Al Ameer son (talk) 02:36, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
- Well, country studies could probably be used as source. Funkynusayri (talk) 15:21, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
- I'm going to check out some books on Syria from the library on Monday, but I fear they might be outdated. What do you mean country studies? Would those be online sources? --Al Ameer son (talk) 15:09, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
- Yep, check this:[5] Funkynusayri (talk) 19:03, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
- Wow (by the way sorry for my late reply) do you know how recent the info is? All the books in my high school library are from the early and late 1990s. --Al Ameer son (talk) 02:53, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
- Heh, well, I checked it afterwards, and it seems like the info on Country Studies doesn't get more recent than 1987, so it may only be good for history sections. But stuff like religious demography and similar could be used too, because I don't think a census has been done in quite some decades. Funkynusayri (talk) 12:00, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
- Excellent, we should begin the editing soon, just am busy with some DYK noms right now. Again, shukran! --Al Ameer son (talk) 20:30, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
List of companies of the United Arab Emirates
I have reformatted the list in order to improve it due to this Articles for deletion nomination. In compiling the list, I have firstly used the lists of companies which are listed on the Abu Dhabi Securities Market and the Dubai Financial Market, and have also added more well known privately owned companies which aren't listed on either stock exchange (Emirates for example). I have also attempted to add the Arabic names of these companies, however, due to not speaking Arabic, and not being able to read Arabic script, I am unsure whether the Arabic names are correct. Perhaps another editor/s who are fluent in Arabic could check the Arabic name and confirm they are correct and correct where necessary. For those companies listed on the Abu Dhabi market, I have used the official listing of companies from the AUH market, and for those companies listed on the Dubai market, I have used their list. Other companies, I have used the corresponding article on the Arabic WP, or their articles (if they exist). If any editors of this project wouldn't mind checking the Arabic names that would be great. --Russavia (talk) 15:10, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
Ka'ak
Help needed added information on a new article, Ka'ak, and its uses and permutations outside of Palestine. Tiamuttalk 15:43, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
Two similar categories
Hi everyone. I was wondering if anyone could help me to understand the difference between Category:Arabic words and phrases and Category:Arabic loanwords. I'm working on adding Arabic terms to English words that come from Arabic (like Coffee, Jasmine, Sash, etc.,) and I'm not sure which category to use for these. Also consider more recent Arabic words to be used in English like Intifada or Sumud. Does anyone have an idea if there is a need for two separate categories here and if so, when I do use which one? Thanks. Tiamuttalk 19:48, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
translation request
Can you type out the Arabic text on the top of this image? I have a graphics editor who will fix these if I can get him the text. File:--1999sudangg save for top text.jpg I just need the top text on this, we already have the bottom. Thanks! Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 04:07, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
neighbor Wikipedia:WikiProject Berbers
We're up and running! Please visit and contribute at Wikipedia:WikiProject Berbers! Thanks! Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 05:39, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
Need Arabic
Please check or add Arabic script at:
These are all terms from Arabic traditional music, and the spellings may differ from the everyday terms, as some of them may be derived from Persian or Turkish.
Badagnani (talk) 08:10, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
Huge thanks; could you also, when you have a chance, add the pural at Dulab? Badagnani (talk) 18:20, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
Need more Arabic
Badagnani (talk) 22:34, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
- Plural at Muwashshah (why are the Arabic and romanization for the plural different?). Badagnani (talk) 03:27, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
- There are two alternative plural forms of that word in Arabic. I added both. -- Slacker (talk) 21:14, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
Thank you, can you add the plural in Arabic for Waslah? Badagnani (talk) 22:59, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
More Arabic
Arabic for Zill (they're usually called "zills" in plural in English, but not sure how they're spelled in Arabic). Badagnani (talk) 03:00, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
- You already have the Arabic word (sajat صاجات). Are you sure "zill" is used in Arabic? I've never heard it before. -- Slacker (talk) 04:18, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
It's used by Americans to refer to belly dance cymbals (which are usually called "finger cymbals" when used in orchestral music). Maybe the term came into English from Turkish. Perhaps you're right, that "zill" is never used in Arabic. However, a lot of terms go back and forth between Turkish and Arabic traditional music. Badagnani (talk) 04:21, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
Question
Is Layali the plural of ليل? If so, we should add that information. Badagnani (talk) 04:23, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
- It's the plural of ليل, but I don't think ليل is used in this context. -- Slacker (talk) 05:27, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
Well, they sing "ليل" a lot in a layali. Badagnani (talk) 05:56, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
- Yes they say "ليل" while singing, but the songs themselves are called ليالي. Anyway, you have all the info and transliterations you need, if you wish to add them (unfortunately I'm not very well-versed in Middle Eastern music). -- Slacker (talk) 07:39, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
I see, there's no musical piece called a "leil," but in the etymology, "leil" is where "layali" comes from. Thanks again. Badagnani (talk) 07:40, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
Arabic needed
٭Fawaz Damra. Badagnani (talk) 02:35, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
٭Zaid Shakir. Badagnani (talk) 02:37, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
- فواز دمرا (Fawwāz Damra)
- زيد شاكر (Zaid Shākir)
-- Slacker (talk) 02:58, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
I have some articles to add to the list
- نادر المصري
- زجاج الخليل ?
- إلياس بندك
- وادي النسناس
- Don't know what this is.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Al Ameer son (talk • contribs)
- I think it might be. All I know is that its a traditional handicraft in Bethlehem. You should contact the creator of the article Huldra. Actually, I'll notify her about this conversation. --Al Ameer son (talk) 22:35, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
- How do you even pronounce that word, 'Am All'ā'a'?
Thank you, I really appreciate it! --Al Ameer son (talk) 22:13, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
Beirut GAN
Beirut has failed its GA review, but the article has at least met the "broadness" criteria. If anyone in this project could help with references, prose and MoS that would be great. These seem to be the factors which caused it to fail. Cheers! --Al Ameer son (talk) 21:47, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
Inserting dates in leads
To avoid messing up the Arabic in the leads of articles when adding dates of birth and death, one easy solution is to insert the character U+200E just after the name; this invisible character has the strong left-to-right property that is needed to prevent the punctuation from being interpreted as right-to-left. Badagnani (talk) 03:47, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
Need Arabic
Ali Osman (composer) (guess at Discussion page). Badagnani (talk) 04:04, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
هبّان
قربة
Badagnani (talk) 21:38, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
- Yes but 'q' is pronounced as either 'g' or 'j' in the Gulf region. I don't know much about Arabic music sources, unfortunately. -- Slacker (talk) 22:56, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
Need romanization
<span=2 style="font-size: 20pt">شجرة القشطة Badagnani (talk) 04:37, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
- šajarat il-qišṭa or shajarat il-qishṭa, depending on your preference. -- Slacker (talk) 21:12, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
Need Arabic
- For salamiya or salameya, a type of wind instrument from Egypt. Needed at the Shawm article. Badagnani (talk) 19:03, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
- Need Arabic spelling for Guembri (a Berber instrument from Morocco). Badagnani (talk) 20:01, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
- Need Arabic for Ibrahim Touqan. Al Ameer son (talk) 00:51, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
- Need Arabic for Fatta. Al Ameer son (talk) 00:51, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
- Need Arabic for ughniyah at Arabic pop music. Badagnani (talk) 01:02, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
- Rod El Farag. Badagnani (talk) 03:50, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
- Rami Bin Said Al Taibi. Badagnani (talk) 09:00, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- Al Taqaddum. Badagnani (talk) 19:32, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- We should maybe have a sub-section for this alone (requests for Arabic script) somewhere on the project page. FunkMonk (talk) 02:59, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
- Good idea. How will we implement it? --Al Ameer son (talk) 03:14, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
- For a title, what about Translation Requests or Articles needing Arabic scripts? I don't know about the context, but the layout should be consistent with the project page theme. --Al Ameer son (talk) 03:52, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
- What about "Requests for Arabic script", which would be a combination of the two? A brief description of the purpose could be made on the top, and then the rest of the page could be open for new sections, take a look at this page for examle, which is the form I imagined: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Dinosaurs/Image_review FunkMonk (talk) 03:54, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
- I like your title and that format looks perfect. Now all we need is to start the page. Should we move all of the unanswered articles there when it is started. I'll contact some users who have given me Arabic scripts before to inform them about the page when it is done. If you don't start it today, I'll start it tomorrow. Cheers! --Al Ameer son (talk) 04:36, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
- Mahmoud Guinia (Arabic given at this photo). Badagnani (talk) 22:52, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
Does the Çiftetelli exist in the Arab world? Badagnani (talk) 21:38, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, I can't figure out the dance from the picture, but I would assume that it's similar to Dabke and Chobi, if so then yes; can't say what the origin is though. There are also other line dances less similar in the Arab world such as Liwa (music) and other beduin dances. --Maha Odeh (talk) 06:48, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
Thanks, I meant whether the dance exists in any Arabic nation under that name (or a similar name). So many of the Ottoman musical forms have Arabic versions, whose names are almost the same. I assume there's at least an Arabic-script way to write the word, as it's popular in surrounding countries. Badagnani (talk) 06:55, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
Maybe something like شيفتتلي. How is the "ch" phoneme written in Arabic? Badagnani (talk) 06:59, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
Is تقاسيم an alternate spelling for تقسيم? Scott Marcus, in his new book on music in Egypt, spells it, in romanized form, as tāqsīm. Badagnani (talk) 19:57, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
Marcus says that the plural form تقاسيم is typically used for the singular in Egypt. This is confusing to North Americans, who use the term "taqsim" as equivalent to the Turkish "taksim" (singular). Badagnani (talk) 06:03, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
Why is the spelling "Abi" instead of "Abu" at Umm Kulthum bint Abi Bakr? Badagnani (talk) 18:28, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
- because the end of the word changes depending on it's grammatical position in the sentence, in the case of Umm Kulthum bint Abi Bakr, the word Abu is muDhaaf, hence it must be majroor, hence it must be Abi. I'm sorry if I can't be any clearer, but it's a grammar thing. --Maha Odeh (talk) 06:04, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
Thanks. It's confusing. At least it's correct, though. Badagnani (talk) 06:10, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
Need etymology
Need etymology for Kawala. Which came first, the Arabic word kawala or the Balkan word kaval? Badagnani (talk) 18:33, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
شاقة
Does شاقة mean "water," as claimed at Sciacca? Badagnani (talk) 09:03, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- No, it' means difficult, I've put a note on the discussion page. --Maha Odeh (talk) 06:05, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
Expert attention/outside eyes
If anyone has time, I think this article could use a few critical read-overs: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pederasty_in_the_Middle_East_and_Central_Asia#Central_Asia -PetraSchelm (talk) 02:04, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
List of missing Middle Eastern topics
Hello! I am not sure if anyone here is aware of this list, but I invite anyone that has an interest or knowledge in Middle Eastern topics to have a look at the list found here: Wikipedia:List of missing Middle Eastern topics and if possible, to create an article in relation to the topic. There appears to be only 40 or so articles left to be created so as I said if anyone has knowledge or time to research those particular topics, feel free :). Cheers!Calaka (talk) 03:38, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
- There should be an article about the Maronite/Druze conflict of the late 1800s in Lebanon, but I'm not sure what such an article should be called or where to find sources about it... Funkynusayri (talk) 03:49, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
- Could we add topics that we feel should have articles? Because the Ottoman-allied Arab revolt against Muhammad Ali's Egypt in the 1800s should be made. I got substantial info on what happened in Palestine (Acre, Galilee, Jerusalem and Nablus), but I got just 7 more busy days of school (13 total) before I embark on any new projects. --
This page
Will someone be answering the requests at this page? It's been several months with no assistance? Badagnani (talk) 01:32, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
- I for one can't do it, but once we make the actual page for requests, as proposed here[7], it might happen quicker... FunkMonk (talk) 02:38, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
Oh, good. The one editor who had helped a lot apparently quit Wiki, probably due to his off-Wiki academic work. Badagnani (talk) 02:41, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
- I started the page here. It needs some work, but the basics are there. I've been asking Zozo2kx for scripts recently; I'll ask if he wants to volunteer. I also contact Fjmustak, who's provided me scripts in the past. Also, the colors I used were white and green, if you want different colors just say so. --Al Ameer son (talk) 03:29, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
Great, thanks. The key, now, will be a very clear, easily visible button or link on this page, that will be unmissable by people looking here to place such requests. Badagnani (talk) 03:30, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
- Good idea. I'll add it ASAP. --Al Ameer son (talk) 03:35, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks! I added the link at the top of the page. Should we add a link for the requests page on the main project page. If so, where? BTW I just invited the two users I mentioned above to help out with the requests. If you know anyone else who could do the job, please invite them. --Al Ameer son (talk) 03:41, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
- You can add the link to the requests page in multiple places--just as long as it's easily findable by anyone who comes looking. Even on talk pages about the Arabic language or Arabic script in general. Badagnani (talk) 04:46, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
- I added the link there. As for Tiamut, she's not active for the time-being and I'm not sure if she is able to type Arabic symbols with her computer. I wish Anas and Slacker were still active. --Al Ameer son (talk) 04:25, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
- I am using this tool as I can't type Arabic with my keyboard. -- FayssalF - Wiki me up® 04:31, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
- I just thanked you on your talk page and I want to thank you again for providing this tool. Now, any user who knows how to write in Arabic but doesn't have the keyboard for it, could provide scripts. --Al Ameer son (talk) 04:35, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
I can explain to anyone who would like to know how to type in Arabic how to do it. The Arabic ASDF Eastern keyboard uses the same arrangement of letters as the English keyboard, and is free. Just ask if you want to know how to do it. Badagnani (talk) 04:45, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
- It's times like these when I wish that I could read and write in Arabic. Unfortunately, I could only speak the language good. --Al Ameer son (talk) 04:54, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
I just learned to read the Arabic alphabet myself, but it's still helpful to type in Arabic, for Wikipedia as well as to search on the Internet in Arabic. You can use websites like http://www.arabiclookup.com/default.aspx?en=appear and http://www.google.com/language_tools to translate from Arabic to English, and vice versa. Badagnani (talk) 04:58, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
- I can type in Arabic, I can also provide translation. However, I may not be available as much as the rest of you because I'm also working in the Arabic Wikipedia and mostly in the Arabic Wikitionary (Wikamoos) - so you will have to be patient with me, or leave a note on wikamoos ([9]) if it’s urgent because I'm mostly there. --Maha Odeh (talk) 06:20, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
- No problem, there's already three users volunteering and we're looking for as much as we can (the more the merrier!) Go ahead and list your name if you like. Salaam! --Al Ameer son (talk) 06:24, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
Changes to the WP:1.0 assessment scheme
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It is by the US government, and it has detailed articles about all Arab countries. FunkMonk (talk) 01:30, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
Mustafa Tajouri
An article, albeit a stub at moment, which I created has been put up at Afd. The article being Mustafa Tajouri. Tajouri is the Ambassador of Libya to Russia, and only a few sources can be found on this highest level diplomat from Libya - those sources being in English and Russian. As Tajouri is Libyan, it is likely there are going to be sources for information out there in Arabic, however, not understanding Arabic, I can't find and add these sources to the article. If any of this project members could take a look and see if they can find any info on this ambassador, and add it to the article. There are going to be a heap of ambassador articles on subjects from the Arab world, and they are forming part of this article I am working on developing. Also if someone could add the name in Arabic to the article, and correct it if incorrect, that would be good too. On a small sidenote, has more article in it which I have created and also need names in Arabic. Ambassadors are high level representatives of their nations, and they have likely had a multitude of credentials for which they were appointed to the position in the first place, it's just finding the info that can be difficult, and it is important to fight systematic bias to have articles on these ambassadors. We need editors help. Thanks. --Россавиа Диалог 04:15, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
Articles flagged for cleanup
Currently, 740 articles are assigned to this project, of which 284, or 38.4%, are flagged for cleanup of some sort. (Data as of 14 July 2008.) Are you interested in finding out more? I am offering to generate cleanup to-do lists on a project or work group level. See User:B. Wolterding/Cleanup listings for details. More than 150 projects and work groups have already subscribed, and adding a subscription for yours is easy - just place a template on your project page.
If you want to respond to this canned message, please do so at my user talk page; I'm not watching this page. --B. Wolterding (talk) 16:33, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
Hello fellow arab editors, your assistance is required. Effort to maintain these article to high standards and encorporate facts are being met with unreasonable opposition. If we can't prevent what's happening on ground, the least we can do is prevent it from happening in wikipedia. MiS-Saath (talk) 04:03, 4 August 2008 (UTC)