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I thought this WIkiProject might be interested. Ping me with any specific queries or leave them on the page linked to above. Thanks! - [[User:Jarry1250|Jarry1250]] <sup>([[User_talk:Jarry1250|t]], [[Special:Contributions/Jarry1250|c]])</sup> 21:38, 1 February 2009 (UTC) |
I thought this WIkiProject might be interested. Ping me with any specific queries or leave them on the page linked to above. Thanks! - [[User:Jarry1250|Jarry1250]] <sup>([[User_talk:Jarry1250|t]], [[Special:Contributions/Jarry1250|c]])</sup> 21:38, 1 February 2009 (UTC) |
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== Task force merger == |
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With the more common acceptance of Task Forces now, shouldn't this project shift to a Task Force under [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Horror]]? You'd benefit from the existing infrastructure (including assessment scales and style guidelines) and making a singular, more encompassing WikiProject an "umbrella" for various Task Forces will bring people with similar interests together. Scanning the history, it appears that most of the activity for this project (the project, and not the articles themselves) has become rather dormant. The CotW hasn't been active since October. |
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For these reasons I propose the following page (and associated talk page) moves: |
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#[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Alien]] '''move''' to [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Horror/Alien task force]] as a task force. |
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This proposal is inline with the current discussions regarding a [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals#WikiProject Friday the 13th|Friday the 13th WikiProject (which is strongly opposed as a separate WikiProject)]] and a [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals#Halloween|Halloween task force]]. While I can't find the mention of it, I believe a Texas Chain Saw Massacre task force is also in the works. [[User:Bignole|<small>'''<span style="background:Maroon;color:Gold"> BIGNOLE </span>'''</small>]] [[User talk:Bignole|<small>(Contact me)</small>]] 03:56, 7 February 2009 (UTC) |
Revision as of 03:56, 7 February 2009
Project launch
Welcome! I'm proud to announce that after about 2 weeks of labor WikiProject Alien is now live! Hopefully soon we'll attract some members and really start making progress on improving Alien-related articles, an area of Wikipedia which has gone without serious collaborative effort for far too long. To give credit where it's due, I copied almost this entire project (along with the Alien portal) from WikiProject Star Wars (and the Star Wars portal)...but you know what they say: imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. It's my hope that we can eventually rack up a number of FAs comporable to what that project has achieved. I should also give thanks to M3tal H3ad for his hard work on Alien vs. Predator (film) and Alien Resurrection. It's because of his example and dedication that I finally decided to move forward with this WikiProject/Portal idea I'd been mulling over for so long. Anyway, there's a lot of work to be done, so let's get rolling! --IllaZilla (talk) 05:40, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
Article assessments
I've begun placing project banners on the talk pages of all of the articles within Template:Alien and giving them quick assessments and importance levels, so we can start prioritizing tasks. Obviously each article has its own quality assessment, but here's a quick explanation of how I rated them with regard to importance to the project:
- Top: The articles on the 8 films (4 Alien, 2 Predator, 2 AVP), the articles on the 2 main creatures (Alien & Predator), and the article on Ripley, since she's the only recurring protagonist through the Alien series. These are the core articles of the project, basically, and could be advanced to FA status.
- High: All the articles on the comics and novels. These are the secondary form of media in the franchise and also more or less the second level of canon when it comes to story. There are several of these which could be merged into list articles, but a few which deserve their own articles and could eventually reach GA status, possibly FA.
- Mid: All the articles on the video games. A majority of these are stubs and could be merged into list articles. Very few could be expanded with encyclopedic content, and only these deserve their own articles. Most of these could probably only be brought up to GA status at best.
- Low: All of the "Alien and Predator universe" and "Miscellaneous" articles, as well as most of the character articles. IMHO most of these are unworthy of independent articles and are completely unencyclopedic topics that will never advance past Start or B class. The characters could be merged into list articles, but complete fancruft like Yautja language and M56 Smart Gun has no place on Wikipedia. Almost all of these should be either merged into other articles or lists, or deleted.
Once I'm finished tagging, assessing, and categorizing, I'll start listing some of these projects on the "things to do" page. --IllaZilla (talk) 20:33, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
scores
hi just telling you that im in the process of creating the Goldsmith score for the first film now, i made Goldenthals (alien 3) a while ago because i focus mainly on his stuff (im a massive fan) then i noticed that you were doing alien related stuff and i LOVE alien and Jerry Goldsmiths score for the first film aswell so ive just created a page for Horners Aliens and now im going on to do the first one, someone else had already created Resurretion. Terrasidius (talk) 01:00, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
- Those look very well-done. I'll add them to the project and see about linking them to other articles. It might take me a while, though. --IllaZilla (talk) 01:19, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
How do I add my name?
I don't know how to add it to the participants list. I would be doing typo stuff. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yojimbo501 (talk • contribs) 13:16, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
- Visit Wikipedia:WikiProject Alien/Participants and add your username in alphabetical order to the list. If you need further assistance just contact me on my "talk" page. --Tj999 (talk) 16:28, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
Thanks. Ill probably do typo and error stuff, as well as trying to stop vandalism. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yojimbo501 (talk • contribs) 16:13, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
Comics
Could we standardise the comic articles so instead of having articles about individual comic books, have more inclusive articles like "Aliens crossovers", where all the Aliens VS something comics could be described? The AVP comics should have their own article though, I'm referring more to the numerous superhero crossovers. Funkynusayri (talk) 03:58, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
- I was thinking we could merge all the comic article into a list article like "List of Alien and Predator comics". This would take out the cover images, since they can't be used in list articles, but all we have in each article now (that I've seen) is publishing details & a plot description. Since there's no sourced critical commentary in any of them (ie. no secondary sources) they should all be in one list article. That's what I'm working on for the video games with List of Alien and Predator games. If in the future some secondary sources are found to provide critical commentary, then the title in question could be forked off into an independent article. All the details & plot summary would still be there, and the cover images aren't hard to find. I just don't see a rationale for having independent articles on comics with no critical commentary. List articles are usually exempt from the "article length" issues, so even if it was a very long article it wouldn't be a problem. --IllaZilla (talk) 04:09, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
- I think a list article with room for commentary, like the List of castes from the Alien expanded universe, would be nice. I have practically all the comics, so I can help with that. Funkynusayri (talk) 13:19, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
question
Is this wikiproject only for the Alien and AvP series, or is this also for the Predator series. --Gman124 talk 15:44, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
- It covers Predator as well, because the 2 are so closely related. There is no project devoted to Predator, so this project is kind of meant to cover both, even though it's called WikiProject Alien. But yeah, we've kind of taken the Predator articles into our scope as well. --IllaZilla (talk) 16:29, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
What's this about?
Shouldn't the sentence that mentions the project scope say something more like this? WikiProject Alien was formed to foster the creation and encyclopedic improvement of Alien articles related to the Alien media franchise, and... or something like that? It wasn't until near the end of the second paragraph, that I found the word "canon" which lent the first clue as to which sort of Alien you were concerned about. The the second section with the related wikiprojects mentioned WP:FILM. And where's that image in the infobox from? I've never seen that before. It took me a minute to pick out the face of the alien. -Freekee (talk) 17:13, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
Changes to the WP:1.0 assessment scheme
As you may have heard, we at the Wikipedia 1.0 Editorial Team recently made some changes to the assessment scale, including the addition of a new level. The new description is available at WP:ASSESS.
- The new C-Class represents articles that are beyond the basic Start-Class, but which need additional references or cleanup to meet the standards for B-Class.
- The criteria for B-Class have been tightened up with the addition of a rubric, and are now more in line with the stricter standards already used at some projects.
- A-Class article reviews will now need more than one person, as described here.
Each WikiProject should already have a new C-Class category at Category:C-Class_articles. If your project elects not to use the new level, you can simply delete your WikiProject's C-Class category and clarify any amendments on your project's assessment/discussion pages. The bot is already finding and listing C-Class articles.
Please leave a message with us if you have any queries regarding the introduction of the revised scheme. This scheme should allow the team to start producing offline selections for your project and the wider community within the next year. Thanks for using the Wikipedia 1.0 scheme! For the 1.0 Editorial Team, §hepBot (Disable) 22:24, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
Wikipedia 0.7 articles have been selected for Alien
Wikipedia 0.7 is a collection of English Wikipedia articles due to be released on DVD, and available for free download, later this year. The Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team has made an automated selection of articles for Version 0.7.
We would like to ask you to review the articles selected from this project. These were chosen from the articles with this project's talk page tag, based on the rated importance and quality. If there are any specific articles that should be removed, please let us know at Wikipedia talk:Version 0.7. You can also nominate additional articles for release, following the procedure at Wikipedia:Release Version Nominations.
A list of selected articles with cleanup tags, sorted by project, is available. The list is automatically updated each hour when it is loaded. Please try to fix any urgent problems in the selected articles. A team of copyeditors has agreed to help with copyediting requests, although you should try to fix simple issues on your own if possible.
We would also appreciate your help in identifying the version of each article that you think we should use, to help avoid vandalism or POV issues. These versions can be recorded at this project's subpage of User:SelectionBot/0.7. We are planning to release the selection for the holiday season, so we ask you to select the revisions before October 20. At that time, we will use an automatic process to identify which version of each article to release, if no version has been manually selected. Thanks! For the Wikipedia 1.0 Editorial team, SelectionBot 22:28, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
Potential good topic candidate
When the Alien (film) nomination passes at WP:GAN, I believe that the members of the project should consider nominating the current GA/FAs related to Alien as a good topic which can be done here. Right now, I think the following would qualify for the topic:
- Alien (film) (when it passes)
- Alien Resurrection
- Aliens (film)
- Alien vs. Predator (film)
In the future, the following could probably be added once they've reached GA status or higher:
- Alien (Alien franchise)
- Alien 3
- Other articles within this project
- Possibly the Predator films as well
I just wanted to point this out as I think the project has a great opportunity to develop the topic, with further expansion in the future. Good work with the articles right now, and keep improving the articles. If you have any questions, please let me know. Happy editing! --Nehrams2020 (talk) 00:49, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
- Good idea. I wasn't aware there was such a thing as good topics, but it definitely applies to this group of articles. --IllaZilla (talk) 02:56, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
I am not sure what to make of the above; it seems out of place with the other entries, no? Sincerely, --A NobodyMy talk 22:10, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
- Taken care of on the article talk page. That article is clearly for real-world events. Thanks for noting it. --IllaZilla (talk) 22:17, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
Milestone Announcements
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I thought this WIkiProject might be interested. Ping me with any specific queries or leave them on the page linked to above. Thanks! - Jarry1250 (t, c) 21:38, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
Task force merger
With the more common acceptance of Task Forces now, shouldn't this project shift to a Task Force under Wikipedia:WikiProject Horror? You'd benefit from the existing infrastructure (including assessment scales and style guidelines) and making a singular, more encompassing WikiProject an "umbrella" for various Task Forces will bring people with similar interests together. Scanning the history, it appears that most of the activity for this project (the project, and not the articles themselves) has become rather dormant. The CotW hasn't been active since October.
For these reasons I propose the following page (and associated talk page) moves:
- Wikipedia:WikiProject Alien move to Wikipedia:WikiProject Horror/Alien task force as a task force.
This proposal is inline with the current discussions regarding a Friday the 13th WikiProject (which is strongly opposed as a separate WikiProject) and a Halloween task force. While I can't find the mention of it, I believe a Texas Chain Saw Massacre task force is also in the works. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 03:56, 7 February 2009 (UTC)