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When I qualify and go through to the next round, is my score wiped clean or do I continue with the same number of points? <font color="#151B8D">'''[[User:Rcsprinter123|<span style="font-family:cambria; font-size:10pt; color:#151B8D">Rcsprinter</span>]]''' [[User talk:Rcsprinter123|<span style="font-family:calibri; font-size:8pt; color:#488AC7">(constabulary)</span>]]</font> <small>@</small> 19:58, 31 January 2013 (UTC) |
When I qualify and go through to the next round, is my score wiped clean or do I continue with the same number of points? <font color="#151B8D">'''[[User:Rcsprinter123|<span style="font-family:cambria; font-size:10pt; color:#151B8D">Rcsprinter</span>]]''' [[User talk:Rcsprinter123|<span style="font-family:calibri; font-size:8pt; color:#488AC7">(constabulary)</span>]]</font> <small>@</small> 19:58, 31 January 2013 (UTC) |
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Scoring error
I finally had my first submission, however, the bot assessed my score in the table as 8, missing the +2 for dating prior to 2005. Chris857 (talk) 04:00, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
- In addition, looking at The C of E's submission page as an example, shouldn't Nevill Ground have been worth 2 bonus points (1.2 x 10 = 12) instead of 1.2 x 5 + 5 = 11? Chris857 (talk) 04:15, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
- Yeah, this seems to be off. Jarry, could you look into this? J Milburn (talk) 10:39, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
- Oh yes, I thought I was owed a few more points! The C of E. God Save The Queen! (talk) 17:50, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
- Yeah, this seems to be off. Jarry, could you look into this? J Milburn (talk) 10:39, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
GAR points error?
Hello everyone. I just checked my points for the first time in a few days, and I noticed that I have 54 points for GAR. At the time I looked, I had only done 6 reviews (it's 7 now), which would make it actually 24? What's going on? — Statυs (talk, contribs) 13:53, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
- Yes, this seems to have happened in a few cases. Wikipedia:WikiCup/History/2013/Submissions/12george1, Wikipedia:WikiCup/History/2013/Submissions/Sturmvogel 66 and Wikipedia:WikiCup/History/2013/Submissions/Cerebellum, to name a few, also seem off. I've asked Jarry to take a look. J Milburn (talk) 16:08, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
DYK=7?
I have only registered one DYK to this point, on Xernona Clayton. It's over 5kb of prose, yet my score is 7. I thought DYKs were either 5 or 10. Did I miss something? – Muboshgu (talk) 15:20, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
- There is an additional two points for articles that have been on WP since 2007 or before. If its over 5Kb of prose I would have thought it to be worth 12 points though.--Mo Rock...Monstrous (leech44) 15:24, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
- The bot is no doubt looking at it in binary. 5KB = 5120B. You're at 5104. That kind of sucks! Resolute 15:39, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
- Ha! The use of binary to me is another sign that computers are becoming self-aware. Seems to me we have two options: (1) fix it so that the bot recognizes 5000, or (2) clarify that the bot calculates in binary so the minimum is really 5120.
- @Leech thanks for the info, I wasn't aware of a 2 pt pre-2007 bonus, but I'll take it. – Muboshgu (talk) 15:46, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
- Rules-as-written, I appreciate that this is actually ambiguous. I was meaning "kb" in the (what I thought was) typical sense of "1024 bytes", meaning 5kb would translate as 5120b, as said above. I can only apologise for this ambiguity; I'm a long way from a computer scientist. I will clarify this on the scoring page. Because there was an honest misunderstanding here that was probably my fault, I'm happy for this one to get the extra five points (and this can apply to any other in the same situation which has already appeared on the main page, if there are any), provided Ed is. I'll leave him a note. J Milburn (talk) 16:03, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
- Yeah I'm also no computer scientist (I only took the intro course in undergrad because it was an easy A, only being HTML), so I forgot completely about binary. You don't have to give the extra 5, though I appreciate it if you do. I'll keep the 5120 in mind in the future. Clayton is only a few words away from it. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:13, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
- Binary isn't bad. One of my applications gives me a lot of numbers in hex! J - Since the DYK checker tool that many use lists article size in "characters" (where 1 character = 1 byte) it may help most editors to clarify as "Articles with at least 5kb (that is, 5120 bytes/characters)...".
- Yes, J's solution is fine with me too. Binary makes everything so complicated ;-) Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 19:17, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
- Binary isn't bad. One of my applications gives me a lot of numbers in hex! J - Since the DYK checker tool that many use lists article size in "characters" (where 1 character = 1 byte) it may help most editors to clarify as "Articles with at least 5kb (that is, 5120 bytes/characters)...".
- Yeah I'm also no computer scientist (I only took the intro course in undergrad because it was an easy A, only being HTML), so I forgot completely about binary. You don't have to give the extra 5, though I appreciate it if you do. I'll keep the 5120 in mind in the future. Clayton is only a few words away from it. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:13, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
- Rules-as-written, I appreciate that this is actually ambiguous. I was meaning "kb" in the (what I thought was) typical sense of "1024 bytes", meaning 5kb would translate as 5120b, as said above. I can only apologise for this ambiguity; I'm a long way from a computer scientist. I will clarify this on the scoring page. Because there was an honest misunderstanding here that was probably my fault, I'm happy for this one to get the extra five points (and this can apply to any other in the same situation which has already appeared on the main page, if there are any), provided Ed is. I'll leave him a note. J Milburn (talk) 16:03, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
- The bot is no doubt looking at it in binary. 5KB = 5120B. You're at 5104. That kind of sucks! Resolute 15:39, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
- Actually, the bot was only looking for 5000 bytes of prose (would you like me to change that to 5120 then?).
- The reason it didn't award is because it could find the DYK page. Working on fixing that at the moment. - Jarry1250 [Deliberation needed] 20:02, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
- If you could change that so it wants 5120 bytes, that would be super. J Milburn (talk) 14:15, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
- Yup, changed. - Jarry1250 [Deliberation needed] 14:24, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
- If you could change that so it wants 5120 bytes, that would be super. J Milburn (talk) 14:15, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
So now I've got 10 points, after I add my second 2013 DYK to the mix. Do I not get the 2 point bonus for Clayton's article being pre-2007 anymore? – Muboshgu (talk) 21:22, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
Bot problems
Hi all. Thank you for your patience with the bot -- and thanks also for reliably shouting out when you thought it had got it wrong. There are still probably a few more bugs left, but I think *touch wood* we've had the worst of them now. Thanks, - Jarry1250 [Deliberation needed] 20:54, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
Possible issue with LivingBot?
It seems, from looking through this Talk page a bit, that there have been issues with bots. Well, something's going on that may or may not be an issue. In the past hour or so, LivingBot has added two extra {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Multiplier|none|none|none}} templates, not just on my submission page, but on that of others. It seemed like there only needed to be one {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Multiplier|none|none|none}} template to make everything work probably, which makes me concerned that LivingBot may be having problems; but I could be wrong, as I'm no expert with such templates. Greengreengreenred 00:37, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
- Yes, thank you, should be fixed now. - Jarry1250 [Deliberation needed] 19:43, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
Missing bonus points
My two DYKs, René Vautier and Nicolas de Fer, have 5 and 7 articles in other languages, respectively. However, Wikipedia:WikiCup/Scoring states that [a]rticles appearing on five or more Wikipedias on 31 December which did not appear on the English language Wikipedia on that date will not be seen by the bot. Because of this, I should receive two bonus points. Thanks, HueSatLum 17:57, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
- Very interesting, I wondered if this would happen! I've made the necessary edits to the submission page, and so your extra points should be added soon. J Milburn (talk) 14:13, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
- Yes. If we get many more cases than this, it might be worth thinking about querying Wikidata, which would have found the wikilinks in this case at least (just!) [1], [2]. - Jarry1250 [Deliberation needed] 14:24, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
I may not fully understand, but 126 bonus points? Can somebody fully explain how bonus points actually work? — Statυs (talk, contribs) 22:15, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, but that GA2 page looks a bit suspicious to me. Have a look at the GA1 page and see that a major contributor tried to review it. They were told they could not, and then it was reviewed by "The Fake ID" in GA2, who gave it an insta-pass, and was just created yesterday with no other significant edits. —Torchiest talkedits 22:45, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
- Oh, yes, you're right. I didn't actually take a look at the actual page. — Statυs (talk, contribs) 22:53, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
- I didn't actually take an in-dept look, but interestingly enough, before the user began work on the article in November it was 105,525 bytes. Now it's at 54,489. — Statυs (talk, contribs) 23:00, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
- WikiCup or no WikiCup, there's something going on here. I've blocked the sock and reverted its edits, opened a thread at ANI and a sockpuppet investigation page. I don't do much blocking, so it's now out of my hands. Any discussion about this incident should take place elsewhere. The user in question will be removed from the competition if they have been involved in the socking. J Milburn (talk) 23:11, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
- I didn't actually take an in-dept look, but interestingly enough, before the user began work on the article in November it was 105,525 bytes. Now it's at 54,489. — Statυs (talk, contribs) 23:00, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
- Oh, yes, you're right. I didn't actually take a look at the actual page. — Statυs (talk, contribs) 22:53, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
Adding other languages yourself?
I'm in the process of learning another language right now and it occurs to me that it might be good practice to try to translate some of my articles to the Wikipedia in that language. Obviously anything of quality here could pretty easily be added to simple English wiki too, but would that be considered cheating? —Ed!(talk) 14:27, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
- The way I read it is that the bonus points are based off of the number of Wikis on December 31, 2012. I don't think that adding new foreign language/Simple pages now would affect the multipliers, so I don't think you should have anything to worry about. --Mo Rock...Monstrous (leech44) 15:13, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
DYK Base Points
Why am I getting 5 extra base points for my DYKs? — AARON • TALK 14:13, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
- DYKs of 5kb (that is, 5120b) or more "readable prose size" (this script can help you calculate) are worth 10 points, instead of five. This was to encourage more developed DYK articles, and to combat the worry that the Cup encouraged lots of short, "cookie-cutter" articles on similar topics. J Milburn (talk) 16:08, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
Tally of WikiCup contributions
I don't think this is usually done, so here's my suggestion: can we tally together at the end of the WikiCup all the contributions that people have made in order to give a grand total of FAs, GAs etc. Clearly, the WikiCup isn't strictly "reponsible" for all these, since some users would be contribute them anyway, but it would be nice to have some statistical backing to Durova's comment that "the real winner is Wikipedia". MasterOfHisOwnDomain (talk) 17:43, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
- I don't know if this is what you want, but there is this. YE Pacific Hurricane 17:46, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
- Essentially that indeed, cheers. Apparently didn't scroll down enough to see that… But still, could the final tally of this be announced at the end of the WikiCup? I can't remember figures ever being given for the contributions that are made during a competition. MasterOfHisOwnDomain (talk) 18:14, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
- It was done a few years ago- I didn't do it last year because I wasn't sure of a way to reliably work it out. Remember that, sometimes, multiple participants claim the same article. J Milburn (talk) 19:57, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
- Fair enough. I'm only after a rough estimate of impact really, so I will just use the provided tool as a guide. Appreciate both of your comments. MasterOfHisOwnDomain (talk) 14:24, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
- I've just updated the numbers which are marked "not live", so assume they are accurate as of 31 Jan. - Jarry1250 [Deliberation needed] 14:33, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
- Fair enough. I'm only after a rough estimate of impact really, so I will just use the provided tool as a guide. Appreciate both of your comments. MasterOfHisOwnDomain (talk) 14:24, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
- It was done a few years ago- I didn't do it last year because I wasn't sure of a way to reliably work it out. Remember that, sometimes, multiple participants claim the same article. J Milburn (talk) 19:57, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
- Essentially that indeed, cheers. Apparently didn't scroll down enough to see that… But still, could the final tally of this be announced at the end of the WikiCup? I can't remember figures ever being given for the contributions that are made during a competition. MasterOfHisOwnDomain (talk) 18:14, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
Score
When I qualify and go through to the next round, is my score wiped clean or do I continue with the same number of points? Rcsprinter (constabulary) @ 19:58, 31 January 2013 (UTC)