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'''[[:Category:Mai Safoora]]''', which is within the scope of this WikiProject, has been nominated for renaming or deletion. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at '''[[Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2012 November 1#Category:Mai Safoora|the category's entry]]''' on the [[Wikipedia:Categories for discussion|Categories for discussion]] page.<!-- Template:Cfd-notify--> Thank you.. --[[User:BrownHairedGirl|<span style="color:#663200;">Brown</span>HairedGirl]] <small>[[User talk:BrownHairedGirl|(talk)]] • ([[Special:Contributions/BrownHairedGirl|contribs]])</small> 14:59, 2 November 2012 (UTC) |
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Muhammad Ali Jinnah and Islam
The two-nation theory (Urdu: دو قومی نظری, the ideology that the primary identity of Muslims on the Indian subcontinent is their religion, rather than their language or ethnicity, and therefore Indian Hindus and Muslims are two distinct nationalities, regardless of ethnic or other commonalities.[1][2] The two-nation theory was a founding principle of the Pakistan Movement. The ideology that religion is the determining factor in defining the nationality of Indian Muslims is also a source of inspiration to several Hindu nationalist organizations, with causes as varied as the redefinition of Indian Muslims as non-Indian foreigners in India, the expulsion of all Muslims from India, establishment of a legally Hindu state in India, prohibition of conversions to Islam, and the promotion of conversions or reconversions of Indian Muslims to Hinduism. In my opinion Muhammad Ali Jinnah struggled to take a piece of land where muslims government can rule and its seprated from hindus
Dear Wikipedia Pakistan Many salams. I wish to bring to your notice that a set of three articles on the recent abductions of Hindu women in Sindh i.e. Rinkle Kumari, Asha Kumari and Lata Kumari have all been proposed for deletion but then challenged. I sincerely believe that a problem is there and that it is an important issue, not to do with India or Pakistan or Hindu-Muslim, but w r to the basic and fundamental rights of Pakistani citizens which are guaranteed under our Constitution and which are at least theoretically 'equal' for all in Pakistan, under Pakistani law. Thus, these stubs shouldnt be deleted please, indeed the matter seriously needs our attention as human beings, and in defence of human rights. I personally think that these stubs and ones similar should or could be merged under one larger proper article about the Abduction of such girls. I have, thus, added a WP Pakistan link or template to them, which I hope shall be active soon i.a. By sweeping such problems 'under the carpet' these problems wont go away. For better or for worse, our minority communities are Pakistanis and we should do our best to safeguard and help them. Thank you AsadUK200 (talk) 06:59, 3 May 2012 (UTC)AsadUK200
Incorrecet use of "former country" infobox for East and West Pakistan
East Pakistan and West Pakistan are incorrectly using the "former country" infobox (and also using incorrect "previous countries" - which won't be a problem as I propose this to be removed), they were not countries rather administrative units of Pakistan. This should be removed in favour of the former administrative units template (Template:Former administrative units of Pakistan) - which I see is already added in case of East Pakistan, but it should be nevertheless made sure that removing the infobox does not remove any essential information with it. --lTopGunl (talk) 21:46, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
- Add East Bengal to it too. --lTopGunl (talk) 17:51, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
East Bengal - East Pakistan
The article East Bengal has a section on "Former provincial symbols of East Pakistan (1955-1971)", I have changed it to "Provincial symbols of East Pakistan (1955-1971)" assuming that they were still the provincial symbols of East Pakistan till it became Bangladesh, if this is correct, the section should rather be moved to East Pakistan. Please revert me if it was not the case and the symbols were only for the East Bengal province... in which case, it is also better to change the section title to "Provincial symbols of East Bengal". --lTopGunl (talk) 22:02, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
S M Sadiq article
This article could use some help from editors that speak Urdu. Northamerica1000(talk) 00:10, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
Please watchlist Haq Nawaz Jhangvi for sectarian edits
Greetings, while I was on wikication, the article Haq Nawaz Jhangvi had a number of editors making suspect and inappropriate edits, including labeling him "Shaheed" and removing his proper categories to add the non-functioning category "1990 Martyrdom". This has been a slow buy ongoing issue, and on the opposite end a few folks have come to add POV negative comments as well. If those keeping an eye out for vandalism could watchlist this article, and perhaps also Mangal Bagh that would be helpful in preventing folks using WP for sectarian feuds. Thanks! MatthewVanitas (talk) 18:49, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
Notability discussions
Deletion?
Pl also see my comments on the Category on Pakistani diplomats--I believe that this category, and entries in it, as well as most entries under 'Pakistani civil servants', and 'Pakistani politicians' arent really notable at all by Wiki standards and most should probably be removed/deleted. I hope that the WP Pakistan will also take note of this and that the whole Wiki community shall be able to dicuss this issue. 39.54.151.179 (talk) 19:26, 30 March 2012 (UTC)Prof Asad U Khwaja
Pl also see my comments on the 'Pakistani government officials' and 'Pakistani diplomats' categories--I am of the firm view that most of these entries under these categories, including this one, arent at all Notable by Wiki standards and should be deleted. In this category, for example, there are probably only 2 people who may claim notability! I would strongly recommend deletion of most of these articles. 39.54.151.179 (talk) 19:30, 30 March 2012 (UTC)Prof Asad U Khwaja
Pl ref also to my comments and suggestions on the talk page of the stub on Ahmad Balal--I believe firmly that more than half of the Pakistani diplomats listed here arent really very .notable' by Wiki standards and I would like to see them deleted if possible, please. I dont see any point in retaining most of these and I also say that there should be a firm criteria in this regard, and for many many politicians and journalists/media people from Pakisatn, that seem to proliferate here. This calls for a proper, detaild discussion and consensus. Thank you. 39.54.151.179 (talk) 19:22, 30 March 2012 (UTC)Prof Asad U Khwaja
I am not sure why the article on T. V. Raman is in the list of Pakistan-related topics. The most probably reason seems to be an erroneous claim by a few magazines that Raman was born in Lahore, something which Raman himself has publicly denied. Perhaps we should remove the article from the list of Pakistan-related topics? Piyush (talk) 08:57, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
- You are right. Perhaps the tag might have been added by mistake. Please be WP:BOLD and feel free to make the necessary correction/s. Mar4d (talk) 09:15, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
- Sure, I'll make the change. I just wanted to make sure there wasn't anything I was missing. Thanks for clarifying. Piyush (talk) 22:37, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
...is in dire need of review and clean up by an expert. Thanks.--ukexpat (talk) 16:01, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
Perth requested-move notification
A requested move survey was started at Talk:Perth_(disambiguation)#Requested_move, which proposes to move:
Background: There was a previous requested-move survey which ran from late May to mid June. There was a great deal of controversy surrounding the closure and subsequent events, which involved a number of reverts and re-reverts which are the subject of an ongoing arbitration case. There was a move review process, which was closed with a finding that the original requested-move closure was endorsed; however, the move review process is relatively new and untried. — P.T. Aufrette (talk) 03:23, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
RfC on neutrality of Gilgit-Baltistan, Azad Kashmir, and Jammu and Kashmir
Please see Talk:Gilgit–Baltistan#Neutrality. Ryan Vesey Review me! 16:00, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
Categories nominated for renaming
Please check out Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2012 July 7#Categories by administrative unit of Pakistan, where I have nominated some 29 categories for renaming. __meco (talk) 20:55, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
Pervez Hoodbhoy and the Baker Prize
The page on Pervez Hoodbhoy mentions him as a recipient of the Baker Prize for 1968. However, a look at the page for the prize (or the official list here) shows that he is not on the official list. Nevertheless, since Prof Hoodbhoy himself claims to be a recipient of a prize of the same name in a Geo TV interview cited on the page (the link is in Urdu: technically I am not a native Urdu speaker, but I think I can understand most of it), I have left the references in, but removed the links to the prize page. I just thought I would post it here in case anyone else has a better source of information on which Baker Prize this is supposed to be. Most other links on the web seems to be have copied this information from Wikipedia rather than the other way around. Piyush (talk) 08:58, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
We now have our own welcoming template, use it!
Now you can add the {{Welcome-Pakistan}}
template to welcome new users to Wikipedia. The template must be subst'ed so read the template instructions for how to use it. Hopefully this is an additional effective implement to recruit new participants to WikiProject Pakistan! __meco (talk) 16:36, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
- What can I say, you're a legend :) TopGun and I were actually trying to do the same thing with the default WP:PAK welcome template back in May but we had no clue how to add it to Twinkle. As I recall, we were playing around with our Twinkle preferences, lol. I guess we can merge elements of that template into this new one if required. Otherwise, great stuff... and thanks. Having a WP:PAK welcome template on TW indeed makes life very convenient. Mar4d (talk) 16:48, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
Arbitration motion regarding Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/India-Pakistan
Resolved by motion at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Clarification and Amendment that:
The India-Pakistan case is supplemented as follows:
Standard discretionary sanctions are authorized for all pages related to India, Pakistan, and Afghanistan, broadly construed.
For the Arbitration Committee, NW (Talk) 18:26, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
dyk - Pakistan Zindabad
Hi; there's a dyk nomination that's had lots of comments, about Pakistan Zindabad; seems like the current issue is lots of tagging of facts in the article; some look to me like they may be spurious but I don't have the background to resolve them and any other problems there may be; if anyone here's interested, that'd be great, thanks, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 07:56, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
Lede claim to being a "policy"
Surely that claim is in error. The page is in Category:Wikipedia_naming_conventions_proposals.wp:Policy pertains.LeadSongDog come howl! 15:35, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
Rumi from a neutral point of view
- Hello, I have a recommendation about the article Rumi.
- Please read all the information, I wrote on Talk, and tell whether you agree or disagree.
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Rumi#Let.27s_Remove_POV_with_a_Neutral_Point_of_View
- You know the ethnicity of Rumi is unknown and debated. Alternatively, from a neutral point of view, I recommend to change the (POV) sentence to a (NPOV) sentence:
- "a 13th-century Persian Muslim poet, jurist, theologian, and Sufi mystic."
- to "a 13th-century Muslim poet, jurist, theologian, and Sufi mystic of Persian literature. 81.213.117.125 (talk) 21:36, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
What is this?
What is Wafaq ul Madaris Al Salafiyyah? Is it notable? Am I correct that it is Pakistani? Can someone introduce some wikilinks at a minimum (if it is notable) since I don't know what it is? I'm also confused, because the content looks like it is describing "Ittehad-e-Tanzeemat-e-Madaris Deeni" not "Wafaq ul Madaris Al Salafiyyah". Thanks for the assistance! Ryan Vesey 16:25, 16 August 2012 (UTC)
- A Google news search might help, but it left me wondering what the difference between this and Wafaq ul Madaris Al-Arabia, Pakistan is. Dougweller (talk) 13:19, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
- This is a seminary and from what I find Wafaq ul Madaris Al Salafiyyah is different from Wafaq ul Madaris Al-Arabia. Both are Federation of seminaries. I am not sure about its notability but here are some sources that may be useful: [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], [6]. From these sources I don't think it is conglomerate of those listed institutes in the article, rather it itself is a chain of seminaries of only Ahl al-Hadith faction. --SMS Talk 16:36, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
Any validity to this "Khattak flag"?
The image to the right is used in Khattak; we've had problems in the past with users creating "ethnic flags" out of thin air, and this appears to be one of those. Is anyone familiar with this alleged flag, or is this just something an enthusiast made up? If it is not a historically-attested Khattak flag, it shouldbe removed, or else we are simply deceiving readers. I have left a comment at the uploaders Talk page as well. MatthewVanitas (talk) 20:18, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
- IMO this flag is original research of the editor who uploaded it. The flag's history here shows that it was changed remarkably one month after it was uploaded first time. This flag more looks like of some Islamic/Jihadi organization. --SMS Talk 08:17, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
- That does appear to be the case; I note the Wikimedia category for four such flags is http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Imaginary_flags_of_Pashtun_tribes . Given that, any objections from anyone as to just removing all four from each tribe article? They would be fine for a fansite or personal webpage, but if they're an individual person's original work, there's not a legitimate reason to have them on Wikipedia. MatthewVanitas (talk) 15:02, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
Comment requested at RfC on Caste
Your comment is elicited at an WP:RfC on the article Caste. The tertiary sources are largely agreed that Hindu India is central to a discussion of caste. Yet in the article Caste, India is casually mentioned as just one example. Does this article minimize that central role (in a social and historical ill) and thereby engage in a kind of defensive universalism, not to mention original research and synthesis?
Here is the link to the RfC: Talk:Caste#RfC:_Does_the_article_minimize_the_centrality_of_India_to_the_notion_of_caste.3F. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 17:53, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
Chaghar Matti
I came across Chaghar Matti today and noticed it's in very bad shape. I would try to clean it up, but I'm not familiar with the subject matter. Are there any kind volunteers here who would be able to take a look at this article and perhaps help get it into better shape? 28bytes (talk) 02:01, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
- I have tried to do some clean up but the article is still in bad shape, most of information is unsourced and needs to be copy edited. The only source in the article "Report of the regular settlement of the Peshawar district of the Punjab (1878)" by Edward George G . Hastings only has a passing mention of this village. I have also tried to look for more sources but couldn't find a reliable source that can be added here. Besides I find User:Librarianuet is adding this unsourced info to the article, need to advice him. --SMS Talk 17:58, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
Missing image on Pakistan-sports-venue-stub
While looking at Category:Articles with missing files I discovered that the Pakistan-sports-venue-stub template had a missing image. The one currently used is Nat Std01.JPG which does not exist. If someone here can change the image, it will help clear out the Articles with missing files. Also, this stub template seems to be missing from your list of templates. Thanks Tobyc75 (talk) 23:47, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
Zimdara and Kumbar
Zimdara and Kumbar are presently redirects to Khyber Pakhtunkhwa. They were formerly articles claiming their subjects to be "markets and villages" in that province. The redirects have been nominated for deletion at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2012 October 10#Zimdara where your comments would be most welcome. Thryduulf (talk) 18:31, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
General Akhtar abdur rahman.jpg
file:General Akhtar abdur rahman.jpg has been nominated for deletion as being unsourced -- 70.24.247.66 (talk) 04:33, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
Merge Khuiratta and Khoi Ratta
Please could someone who knows the area merge the two articles about the same town Khoi Ratta and Khuiratta? --Bejnar (talk) 05:34, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
- They have been running in parallel for five years, since 10 October 2007 when Khoi Ratta was created, just after Khuiratta was created on 17 September 2007. Khuiratta seems to be the preferred name, 10 hits on Google scholar, compared to one, possibly two for Khoi Ratta. Also geonames uses Khuiratta. --Bejnar (talk) 05:52, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
Urdu-language writers and poets
There are so many name missing from the List of Urdu-language writers; for example Jamila Hashmi, Saira Hashmi and others.
As I have corrected the list according to writer's last name (surname), I request whoever adds new names must restrict to the format.
The List of Urdu-language poets is arranged by their date of births, it should be rearranged to an alphabetical order like the List of Urdu-language writers.Oaagha (talk) 17:13, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
- I have removed names that don't have an article on Wikipedia per notability concerns, if you find these people notable, kindly write an article satisfying Wikipedia's Notability guideline related to biographies. --SMS Talk 17:21, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
Can someone help with Urdu translation please
I see that the wiikpedians involved here are looking for help with translation from Urdu. Can anyone help? Ottawahitech (talk) 03:43, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
Pakistan articles
I thought I should inform about this here. --Anbu121 (talk me) 20:28, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
Cleanup is greatly needed of User:Legoktm/Pakistan/Famous. Poorly written content and POV should be stripped from the articles and reduced to a minimum if necessary and the articles put on watchlist.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 15:45, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
- Just a question, out of curiosity - why use the search string "famous" as the particular defining criteria of these supposedly poorly-written articles? Mar4d (talk) 09:34, 27 October 2012 (UTC)
2012 Pakistani American infobox representatives open nomination period
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Asian American#Pakistani American infobox representative nominees. RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 23:41, 29 October 2012 (UTC)Template:Z48
Category:Mai Safoora
Category:Mai Safoora, which is within the scope of this WikiProject, has been nominated for renaming or deletion. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you.. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:59, 2 November 2012 (UTC)