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*I'm in shock and disbelief.--'''[[User:WaltCip|WaltCip]]'''-''<small>([[User talk:WaltCip|talk]])</small>'' 21:23, 21 January 2021 (UTC) |
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* Oh god no. [[User:Mathglot|Mathglot]] ([[User talk:Mathglot|talk]]) 21:33, 21 January 2021 (UTC) |
* Oh god no. [[User:Mathglot|Mathglot]] ([[User talk:Mathglot|talk]]) 21:33, 21 January 2021 (UTC) |
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* I commented on Flyer22's talk page hours ago. Will an arbitrator do so, or the committee? --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 22:19, 21 January 2021 (UTC) |
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Tendering resignation (Xeno)
- Thank you for your service so far, and I look forward to your future work in your new role! The global community will be lucky to have your help. — Wug·a·po·des 02:48, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
- Sorry for your departure, Xeno, but you have equally important work to do. Good luck! Liz Read! Talk! 03:37, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
- Congrats on your new job! :) –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 03:45, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
- Good on you for not accumulating an inordinate number of contemporaneous hats. May the spirit of the community guide you. Samsara 03:58, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for all your hard work on the Committee, and best of luck with your work with the Foundation! GorillaWarfare (talk) 04:06, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
- Massive loss for the committee, but I'm glad there is an individual I trust in that role. Thanks for your service Xeno. WormTT(talk) 08:58, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
- This leaves me both sad that you left the Committee and happy that an editor like you will work with the Foundation on this. Thank you for all you have done while on the Committee and good luck on your future endeavors! Regards SoWhy 09:36, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
- Best wishes with the new role, and sorry you have to leave the committee in order to accept it! —valereee (talk) 16:58, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
- Congratulations on your new role, xeno. The Foundation is lucky to have you. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 17:13, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
- Now don't forget: it's up to you to disable the security system when we give you the signal—I mean, congrats on the new gig! :-) Levivich harass/hound 04:34, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
- Congrats on the new role, good luck.--S Philbrick(Talk) 17:38, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
- Wishing you only the best, Xeno! I have no doubt that you will be a guiding light in your new role with WMF. Atsme 💬 📧 19:04, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you very much, Xeno, for taking on this very important role. I have no doubt your new colleagues will greatly appreciate your knowledge, experience, and sensible approach. I know the Arbitration Committee will miss your contributions, but I suspect they'll quickly come to appreciate having a former member who's been through the wars on the new committee. Risker (talk) 05:23, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
- No discussion necessary! Congratulations Xeno, and thanks for being here! Nfitz (talk) 21:12, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
Changes to functionary team
- I should give a bit more explanation about Berean Hunter, since we usually don't pull the flag so quickly for inactivity. This is a precautionary measure. We have no reason to believe Berean Hunter's account is compromised, but he stopped editing abruptly on 1 October, and no one has been able to reach him since. I myself have emailed him four times. I consider him a friend and I usually get a response from him, so I'm rather worried and so is the committee. If and when he returns to editing and wishes to have the CU permission returned, the request will likely be viewed favorably by the committee. Katietalk 15:40, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
- Oh my - something is wrong. That isn't like him at all. As a CU, his real id is known, correct? Can the WMF look into this and let us know something about his well-being? It is simply not in his character to disappear like this. I had correspondence with him on Sept 30, 2020 - he said he was "feeling tired", but it was still early evening. Something is wrong. 😢 Atsme 💬 📧 17:26, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
- The WMF hasn't required real-world ID in years, and even when they did they supposedly looked at them once to confirm the user was an adult and then deleted. We're all concerned but there's not much of anything we can do. Beeblebrox (talk) 17:50, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
- I wouldn't be too alarmed that something nefarious has happened. This by far isn't his first extended absence without warning, in fact from 2013-2017 he took multiple on-and-off breaks to the point where he was even desysopped for inactivity. Sometimes, life happens and Wikipedia needs to take a lower priority. Sometimes it gets crazy at work, or there's a family emergency, or if you're older, you might get arthritis making accessing a device difficult. My point is, there are many, many different reasons why you may want to take a step back. This diff helps give a bit of insight into his view on taking long breaks. He once said Dennis Brown is the only Wikipedian who met him face to face, so maybe we could ask Dennis if he's heard anything. We're all volunteers here and giving notice when you'll be gone for a while is often expected, but not required. Sro23 (talk) 03:28, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
- Oh my - something is wrong. That isn't like him at all. As a CU, his real id is known, correct? Can the WMF look into this and let us know something about his well-being? It is simply not in his character to disappear like this. I had correspondence with him on Sept 30, 2020 - he said he was "feeling tired", but it was still early evening. Something is wrong. 😢 Atsme 💬 📧 17:26, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
- I didn't get the ping, but I stumbled across this thread. I just emailed him. A few years ago, we used to break bread every now and then, being that he lives relatively close, but we haven't talked much lately. I know he has had a lot going on in real life for some time, so I wouldn't get too worried just yet. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 23:08, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
- 22 hours later, no reply. Looked but can't find his number in my new phone. Will search email for it. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 21:29, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
- Found the number, talking to him now, he's ok, just really busy. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 21:45, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
- Hooray! Thanks for going the extra mile.-- Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 21:46, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
- Dennis Brown, Thank you for that. I'm very glad to hear it. WormTT(talk) 09:54, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
- I too am really glad to hear it. Thanks for passing this along. KevinL (aka L235 · t · c) 10:12, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
- I will admit that I am relieved to hear this news. Thank you for reaching out Dennis Brown Mkdw talk 15:54, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
- I hope the best and that he's just busy in this crazy world. Nosebagbear (talk) 10:27, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
- Just saw this, (my thanks to Boing! said Zebedee for pointing me back here!) What great news (and a relief)!! Thank you for checking on this, Dennis Brown!! FYI, GorillaWarfare. Whew!! Atsme 💬 📧 21:15, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
- Oh that's lovely to hear, I'm so glad everything is alright. Thanks for the ping, Atsme! GorillaWarfare (talk) 21:19, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
- Just saw this, (my thanks to Boing! said Zebedee for pointing me back here!) What great news (and a relief)!! Thank you for checking on this, Dennis Brown!! FYI, GorillaWarfare. Whew!! Atsme 💬 📧 21:15, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
- Was going to invite him over for barbecue, like we used to do, but with covid, that isn't wise. It's been almost two years since I've seen him, and almost a year since we had talked, so it was nice catching up. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 22:11, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
Change to the Checkuser team
- Just wanted to note that this follows a January 6 self-requested removal of the tools from Ivanvector's account for security reasons, and that this motion and announcement is purely procedural. Best, KevinL (alt of L235 · t · c) 01:52, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
- Well this sure went more smoothly than asking for the admin bit back! Glad you're ramping back up, IV. --Floquenbeam (talk) 02:30, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
Motion: American politics 2 (1992 cutoff) enacted
- Incredibly minor, but Dreamy Jazz, isn't it standard to link the word
motion
to a direct link to the motion? Noting ARCA as the location is nice IMO, but leaving that as just a WP:ARCA link as you did for TRM seems reasonable. ~ Amory (u • t • c) 00:46, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
- I've added the link in to the motion in the announcement. Dreamy Jazz talk to me | my contributions 08:54, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
- I've only just noticed this now, but I wonder about the wording of this motion from a clerk/ArbCom procedural point of view. Do correct me if I'm wrong and out of date, but past procedure largely seemed to hat/cross-out superseded/amended remedies and place the new text underneath; this motion, however, appears to mandate retitling of a section and wholesale replacing of the previous text. AFAICT, Dreamy Jazz enacted the motion correctly given those terms, but, from a purely navigational point of view, I'd think it better to do the hat/cross-out and add, rather than retitle/replace. ~ Amory (u • t • c) 01:14, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
- Amorymeltzer, L235 has added the superseded version in a hatted section underneath. Dreamy Jazz talk to me | my contributions 08:48, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
- Not sure how much of a difference it will even make to go from post-1932 to post-1992. Myself, at least, I'm just not seeing that many AP2 disputes that even involve anything in the 20th Century (though, granted, this could be more a sign of the times). Compare this, for example, with Wikipedia:General sanctions/Post-1978 Iranian politics, where the 20th Century stuff is featured quite prominently. El_C 02:35, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
- I think the biggest difference would be in topic bans. While this doesn't affect existing sanctions, any future sanctions would be 1992 onwards only and I assume if someone asks with a half decent explanation, they'll likely have their topic ban changed. While there would still be a lot of areas of American politics off limits, and they would need to take care, there would be a wider field of AP related articles anyone who gets a full AP1992 ban could edit. True, we don't know how many people would actually care, but it's also hard to know until it happens. If someone has an AP1932 ban and is compliant, they wouldn't really want to think about those articles. Nil Einne (talk) 20:14, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
- I personally am happy to see a significant reduction in DS coverage, so thanks to proposer and arbs. As the current sanctions remain in force, so it'll take a while to see, one benefit is that individuals can be removed from the most heated aspect while not losing a vast swathe of articles they might otherwise be able to edit productively in. Nosebagbear (talk) 09:23, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
- I believe the arbitrators chose a date better than the one I originally suggested. Hopefully this will help keep the sanctions as narrow as possible so that the maximum freedom of editing is established on Wikipedia without fear of sanctions. Interstellarity (talk) 12:53, 20 January 2021 (UTC)