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⚫ | I'm sorry I didn't intend to anger you., these were just fighters who I found as notable mma fighters without a wiki page and I was going to make these myself but when I came across your draft I just neatened up your spelling mistakes and added more sources and improved it and then I published it. I didn't meant for it to be stealing, I just thought we were meant to improve them before they were published--[[User:Rickyc123|Rickyc123]] ([[User talk:Rickyc123|talk]]) 14:02, 6 June 2017 (UTC)RickyC123 |
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::Its best practice that if a draft is waiting for review it should be left (better to alter the draft than create another article) but failing that you can still move it into article space with the move tab (top right). That way attribution is maintained and toes don't get stepped on. Copy paste should be avoided at all costs. Just saying.[[User:PRehse|PRehse]] ([[User talk:PRehse|talk]]) 15:44, 6 June 2017 (UTC) |
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Again, sorry didn't mean to, I didn't know you could move articles as I usually just copy and paste my own drafts and I just know that I won't be making that mistake again.-[[User:Rickyc123|Rickyc123]] ([[User talk:Rickyc123|talk]]) 17:13, 6 June 2017 (UTC)RickyC123 |
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Boxing & MMA fighter records
At Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Boxing#Do they have to have records.3F there is a discussion on keeping records collapsed as a default and only expanding when the show command is engaged. Seems like that is the way to go. Since MMA articles are similarly structured, figured I would raise the idea here. I support the idea for the reasons listed there. RonSigPi (talk) 23:04, 25 April 2017 (UTC)
Agreed - this is a good idea, however must ensure the overall record is clearly shown and that feature doesn't change. Pbigio (talk) 15:46, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
Are these ladies notable?
Are Anastasia Yankova and Ilima-Lei Macfarlane notable as they both have 3 fights in Bellator? Dwanyewest (talk) 00:36, 27 April 2017 (UTC)
- @Dwanyewest: Strictly according to WP:MMATIER, no. This has been a matter of some debate. Each of them should be able to pass GNG in a few years' time so no need to presume notability now, in my opinion. Chris Troutman (talk) 01:32, 27 April 2017 (UTC)
Yes I agree with Chris Troutman on this. They are both notable. Pbigio (talk) 15:45, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
- I suggest you look at the notability criteria at WP:NMMA. Neither Yankova nor Macfarlane meet it. Papaursa (talk) 02:31, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
Fighter middle names
Hi, most readers/fans of MMA would not know the middle name of a fighter. If an article is subject includes the full name (first middle and last name), if would be a little difficult for reader to find the page. (Example here is UFC fighter Emil Meek - a page is created with subject "Emil Waber Meek" - should this page be redirected with "Emil Meek" or the article name be changed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Semper liber (talk • contribs) 09:59, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
- Semper liber Redirects are cheap and easy to create so if there is a concern that is how I would go. If you search without the middle name you should still find the right article. By the way please take a look at WP:NMMA with respect to the articles you are creating.Peter Rehse (talk) 10:11, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
OK and thanks Phehse. Noted on the WP:NMMA. I have created and submitted for review for 3 more articles on MMA fighters ( Draft:Marco Polo Reyes,Draft:Danielle Taylor (fighter) (both competed 3 UFC fights) and Draft:Magomed Bibulatov (only 1 fight but it was a Title fight (won) under WSOF). I believe they are notable under Wiki Project MMA guidelines. Please advise if they are not. Thanks in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Semper liber (talk • contribs) 02:37, 12 May 2017 (UTC)
- You need to look at the MMA fighter notability criteria, including the part about fighting for top tier organizations. WP:MMATIER lists the consensus opinion about various MMA promotions. For example, the WSOF is not considered a top tier organization. Those with 3 or more UFC fights would pass WP:NMMA. Papaursa (talk) 23:04, 14 May 2017 (UTC)
Papaursa, Ok and thank you for the info. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Semper liber (talk • contribs) 23:36, 14 May 2017 (UTC)
Popular pages report
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Magomed Bibulatov
Hi I had submitted an article on Magomed Bibulatov for approval and was not approval where I was informed that the nobility was not met. However, a few days later, another writer wrote up the same fighter and the submission was approved and published. 2 questions here: 1. Why same subject of article with unmet nobility was approved? 2. A box on the top of the article suggested more citations/sources are needed and I have added them - could the citations needed statement be removed. Semper liber (talk) 03:39, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
- Subject still has not met WP:NMMA and as such would probably not survive AfD if brought. I would do it but then again he has one of the three top tier fights and it is a win so shrug there are worse cases out there and contrary to popular belief I am not AfD happy. That aside it is my experience that the article for creation reviewers rarely look at WP:NMMA but more the available references and even if they had passed your version the article would still be at risk. Their bar for references is quite low.Peter Rehse (talk) 08:28, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
- Ok Thanks PRehse for the info and understand the reviewers might not have looked at the WP:NMMA. Will save a copy of the article in case it is removed due to nobility issue and will resubmit when the nobility is met.Semper liber (talk) 08:44, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
- There's no need to look at NMMA when WP:BASIC is met. If it isn't, then NMMA matters. In his case, there are multiple sources talking about more than just his match results. Maybe you didn't cite enough in your version. He'll have his three UFC matches soon enough. Maybe even a title shot, the flyweight division isn't deep. In the meantime, he's still fairly well-known. By the way, nobility is a much different word from notability. InedibleHulk (talk) 11:21, May 25, 2017 (UTC)
- InedibleHulk - thanks for pointing out - typo mistake. Semper liber (talk) 16:28, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
- There's no need to look at NMMA when WP:BASIC is met. If it isn't, then NMMA matters. In his case, there are multiple sources talking about more than just his match results. Maybe you didn't cite enough in your version. He'll have his three UFC matches soon enough. Maybe even a title shot, the flyweight division isn't deep. In the meantime, he's still fairly well-known. By the way, nobility is a much different word from notability. InedibleHulk (talk) 11:21, May 25, 2017 (UTC)
- Ok Thanks PRehse for the info and understand the reviewers might not have looked at the WP:NMMA. Will save a copy of the article in case it is removed due to nobility issue and will resubmit when the nobility is met.Semper liber (talk) 08:44, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
Question about a fighter
Is Paulo Borrachinha a nickname? His real name is Henrique Costa, so should the page be there? Some sites I see referring to him one way and some another. Enigmamsg 00:20, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
- His name is Paulo Henrique Costa. His nick name is "Borrachinha". In UFC, he is known as "Paulo Borrachinha". cite: [1]CASSIOPEIA (talk) 08:49, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
- Yes, what I am asking is whether the page should be under his actual name or his UFC nickname. Enigmamsg 17:06, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
- My view is it should be under his name "Paulo Henrique Costa" for the reasons of 1) this is his real name and 2) many articles/video clips used his real name instead of "Paulo Borrachinha" before he joined UFC. MMA project community - do share your view if you think otherwise. Thank youSemper liber (talk) 07:49, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
- Yes, what I am asking is whether the page should be under his actual name or his UFC nickname. Enigmamsg 17:06, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
Stealing other person's work - copyright violation User:Rickyc123 and User:Ppt1973
I came across my articles (under review/draft) were stole by User:Rickyc123 and User:Ppt1973 and they copied the entire articles (see below) and past them and claimed their own and submit for review and got published on the same day. My articles are still waiting for review or I have withdrew them when same MMA fighters articles have been published. I write about MMA fighters because I am a big MMA fan, wanting the fans to know the fighters better as the fighters deserve some recognition from their achievements. It is frustrating when your work has been stolen. What can we do to stop this as I am reluctant to spend so much time to do the research and ending up feed the thieves?
Semper liber (talk) 08:06, 6 June 2017 (UTC
Sorry I didn't mean to
I'm sorry I didn't intend to anger you., these were just fighters who I found as notable mma fighters without a wiki page and I was going to make these myself but when I came across your draft I just neatened up your spelling mistakes and added more sources and improved it and then I published it. I didn't meant for it to be stealing, I just thought we were meant to improve them before they were published--Rickyc123 (talk) 14:02, 6 June 2017 (UTC)RickyC123 As for Magomed Bibulatov I created that article myself and other people added other things on — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rickyc123 (talk • contribs) 14:08, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
- Its best practice that if a draft is waiting for review it should be left (better to alter the draft than create another article) but failing that you can still move it into article space with the move tab (top right). That way attribution is maintained and toes don't get stepped on. Copy paste should be avoided at all costs. Just saying.PRehse (talk) 15:44, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
Again, sorry didn't mean to, I didn't know you could move articles as I usually just copy and paste my own drafts and I just know that I won't be making that mistake again.-Rickyc123 (talk) 17:13, 6 June 2017 (UTC)RickyC123