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The result was delete. Randykitty (talk) 19:10, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
Alan Tafoya
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Article was deleted once before via AfD; recreated again with claims to demonstrate more notability. The sources still don't satisfy WP:BIO; no significant coverage in an RS, just mentions in the context of productions he's been involved with. OhNoitsJamie Talk 02:16, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
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- There are very few Native American actors of note in Hollywood and it can be quite difficult for them to get any traction in that industry. Tafoya is both an actor and a champion knife fighter who is recognized for both his acting roles and as himself on perhaps the most popular episode of Deadliest Warrior. He also recently starred in a touring musical theatre production about Sitting Bull. These things may not be that impressive compared to a Tom Cruise, but in the Native American community he is a person worthy of some recognition on Wikipedia. I am looking to source more material and citations with better references where possible. Would appreciate for the sake of Wiki diversity some leeway on letting this Article continue. That is my suggestion, though I know it is not up to me. Thank you for considering this. --Jay Odin (talk) 02:49, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
- That may be how his publicists promote him, but sources that are both independent and reliable sources are required. --Ronz (talk) 02:53, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
- I have also sourced both a documentary movie and an article which detailed his two victories in martial arts knife fighting championships which keeps getting deleted, so I wonder if that aspect of his career is somehow not notable enough for Wiki to include. --Jay Odin (talk) 03:00, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
- This page is not for general discussion. The sources offered are unreliable or publicity pieces. --Ronz (talk) 03:44, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
- Thus far, there are four notable publications and IMDB. Sites dedicated to Deadliest Warrior mention him frequently, with reference to the martial arts championships. Again, it must be kept in perspective that full blooded Native American talent often appears in productions directly related to that lineage and as such usually in featured roles. The major publications that draw specific reference to them are often limited. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jay Odin (talk • contribs) 04:40, 14 March 2019 (UTC) --Jay Odin (talk) 05:04, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
- This page is not for general discussion. The sources offered are unreliable or publicity pieces. --Ronz (talk) 03:44, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
- I have also sourced both a documentary movie and an article which detailed his two victories in martial arts knife fighting championships which keeps getting deleted, so I wonder if that aspect of his career is somehow not notable enough for Wiki to include. --Jay Odin (talk) 03:00, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
- That may be how his publicists promote him, but sources that are both independent and reliable sources are required. --Ronz (talk) 02:53, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
- Delete as promotional and more likely than not made by an associated/paid editor. ‡ Єl Cid of ᐺalencia ᐐT₳LKᐬ 12:17, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
- Delete per a lack of any independent coverage. A partial merge to the notable people section of Jicarilla Apache might be good to do, if there is a consensus he is on the verge of notable on a local level. Definitely not national or state-wide, however. MidwestSalamander (talk) 13:44, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
- Delete. Fails WP:BIO. Preaky (talk) 22:59, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
- Delete Fails to meet WP:GNG, WP:MANOTE, or WP:NACTOR. Coverage is either not independent or consists of passing mentions. Most significant coverage appears to come from his appearing on Deadliest Warrior, but even that doesn't appear to be independent. Papaursa (talk) 23:52, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
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The result was delete. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 19:12, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
Dillon Danis
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Subject is a mixed martial artist - the page has been previous AfD deleted see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dillon Danis and current version is a little longer, but still fails WP:NMMA or BJJ practitioner notability (never placed at a BJJ world championship black belt level nor at the ADCC championship). Event coverage on UFC 229 is only WP:ONEEVENT and does not contributed to WP:N guidelines. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 11:45, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
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- Delete He has only 1 MMA fight and that wasn't for a top tier organization. He has not won a medal at the black belt level at the IBJJF world championships, and has no notable success as a grappler at the ADCC championships. Most coverage is for his involvement at the Nurmagomedov-McGregor post fight fracas, but that's insufficient to show notability. At best, it's WP:BLP1E. Papaursa (talk) 23:48, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Randykitty (talk) 18:11, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
Tial Thang
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Subject is a mixed martial arts fighter. Has only one fight with ONE FC which is not top tier promoter. Not notable - fails WP:NMMA. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 04:11, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
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- Delete Non-notable MMA fighter. He has only 1 fight and that was not for a top tier promotion. Coverage is just routine. Papaursa (talk) 23:43, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Randykitty (talk) 18:11, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
Arman Tsarukyan
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Subject is a mixed martial arts fighter. Not notable, fighter has not fought in top tier promotion - Fails WP:NMMA and WP:TOOSOON CASSIOPEIA(talk) 04:08, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
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- Delete He has no top tier fights and appears to lack significant independent coverage. Coverage is either routine and/or not independent. Papaursa (talk) 23:35, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Randykitty (talk) 18:09, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
Ariane Lipski
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Not notable mma fighter - fail WP:NMMA, only 1 fight in top tier promotion and lost the fight. WP:TOOSOON CASSIOPEIA(talk) 03:58, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
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- Delete Fails to meet WP:NMMA since she lost her only top tier fight. She also fails to meet WP:GNG due to a lack of significant independent coverage. Article was created WP:TOOSOON but can be recreated when/if she has three top tier fights. Papaursa (talk) 23:29, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
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The result was delete. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 03:41, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
Eddie Bravo Invitational
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Contested PROD--not contested with a series of reliable secondary sources, unfortunately. The article is basically an extension of the promotionality of the mother article, Eddie Bravo--the complete lack of secondary sourcing (and the few websites that have reported on it or published results don't make up for that) is a clear sign that this is just not a notable tournament/event by our standards. Drmies (talk) 03:58, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
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- Delete Article essentially consists of results with no indication of why this event is notable. There is a lack of significant independent coverage since almost all of the references are just links to results. Papaursa (talk) 23:36, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, EggRoll97 (talk) 15:43, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
- Keep. There are enough references to warrant this page. Creator obviously spent lot's of time in making this informative page. It is useful and notable info for the specific industry. Should be kept. Peter303x (talk) 16:27, 21 March 2019 (UTC) 20240524054628
- Can you please indicate which of those references show significant coverage from independent reliable sources? I see lots of links to results, but no coverage that shows the article meets WP:GNG. Having lots of references is not a notability criteria if they don't help meet WP:GNG. Papaursa (talk) 03:45, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination. The nominator's comments about the promotional nature of this project should not be missed. -The Gnome (talk) 13:26, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
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