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Recently, I asked a question about how to address industry slant in articles [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions/Archive_318#industry_slant_in_Wikipedia_articles here]. Related to that is the issue of COI and what we saw happen with the WifiOne case discussed on Jimbo's page [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jimbo_Wales#Regarding_Wifione_ArbCom_case here]. A user recently wrote [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Conflict_of_Interest_ducks this essay] with the goal of addressing COI problems. Now some of the same people who have been accused of creating industry slant are the ones trying to have the essay deleted [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Wikipedia:Conflict_of_Interest_ducks#Wikipedia:Conflict_of_Interest_ducks here]. What can we do to address the kind of COI that happened with WifiOne and avoid the intimidation tactics of those who protect industry slant? I thought this essay would the right approach. It seems any efforts to address COI will be vigorously opposed. [[User:David Tornheim|David Tornheim]] ([[User talk:David Tornheim|talk]]) 17:25, 4 April 2015 (UTC) |
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Dealing with COI / WifiOne
Recently, I asked a question about how to address industry slant in articles here. Related to that is the issue of COI and what we saw happen with the WifiOne case discussed on Jimbo's page here. A user recently wrote this essay with the goal of addressing COI problems. Now some of the same people who have been accused of creating industry slant are the ones trying to have the essay deleted here. What can we do to address the kind of COI that happened with WifiOne and avoid the intimidation tactics of those who protect industry slant? I thought this essay would the right approach. It seems any efforts to address COI will be vigorously opposed. David Tornheim (talk) 17:25, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
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Help:Table#Mélange has the following paragraph:
- Here is a more advanced example, showing some more options available for making up tables. Note however that when
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is used in sorting, outside of headers, does not work properly anymore.
Second sentence no scan. Structure:
- Note...that
- when ...
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- when ...
What does not work properly anymore? I'm guessing that the problem is just an "it" that was lost in cut-and-paste, but I don't know enough about the subject to be sure of that (which is why I was reading that Help page). I was going to post this on the Talk page, but I got the notice
- Attention
- Talk pages in this namespace are generally not watched by many users. Please consider visiting the Help desk for a more prompt response or reviewing the Help contents for quick tips.
But since I'm not looking for help on that issue, it seems more appropriate to ask here for someone who is competent to clean that up. To discuss this, please {{Ping}} me. --Thnidu (talk) 15:04, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
- Hey Thnidu. From a look at the diff adding that text (by DePiep), what it said previously, and from the edit summary, it appears clear that the intent was to say that sorting will not work properly. I've made that change in the text. If I got it wrong, the ping of DePiep in this post is intended as a failsafe. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 15:37, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
When Will The Super Bowl LIII Article Start
I Hope The Super Bowl LIII Article begins next Month Because they will announces the finalists for the game and cities should be coming soon. Barenight (talk) 14:51, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
What to do when no one responds to edit suggestions posted on a talk page
Hello Teahouse. I appreciate it that EN.Wikipedia runs a friendly forum-like place for new people. I'm an avid and longtime EN.Wikipedia user, but completely new to editing Wikipedia. I'm originally from the Netherlands (but reasonably fluent in English), and a software developer by profession.
Relatively recently I came across the EN.Wikipedia article "Montgomery reduction" (it's a mathematics topic, possibly a somewhat specialized one). The topic was then new to me, and I first learned of it via the Wikipedia article. After now having studied the topic for a few weeks, I think I see a few ways to improve that article (including changing its title), and I suggested these on the article's talk page, just over a week ago now.
Since the article's topic is relatively new to me, I think that before I make actual edits it would be good to get opinions and feedback from the people who've contributed to the article (and who may have more experience on the topic and on the customary usage of the associated terminology).
My problem is that no one has yet commented on the suggestions I posted on the article's talk page. So I am unsure what I should do now.
Should I wait some more time for people to comment on my proposal on the talk page? If so, then how long should I wait?
Or should I just go ahead, and post a "Requested move" for the title change, and make edits in the article text?
The problem is that I'm completely new to editing Wikipedia, and unfamiliar with the "ethics" and the customary way of how things are done. I could imagine that posting the "Requested move" and making edits could be a usual way on Wikipedia to get people to comment on those changes? On the other hand, a premature "Requested move" posting could be seen as brash or presumptuous. I simply don't know. I would welcome suggestions. --MRaccoon (talk) 12:37, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
- Hello again MRaccoon (see the question/answer below). Not all articles are visited or edited that frequently, and the traffic seems somewhat slow on the Montgomery reduction (this is how you link to an article). Each article is linked to different projects here. Those can be found at the top of the article's talk page and those are the ones you go to if you want to attract more attention for your proposal. In this case the projects are Wikipedia:WikiProject Computer science and Wikipedia:WikiProject Mathematics. I suggest that you post notes at those, or rather at the talk pages' of the projects. Start with that before you make any move requests. Best, w.carter-Talk 14:34, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
- Hello w.carter, many thanks for your comment here and in the other discussion thread. Right, I see now how you make the links.:-) (I've edited in company wikis before, just not in Wikipedia.)
- I had not known of the "Projects" and of the fact that these also have their talk pages. That is extremely helpful information, many thanks for alerting me to it. These two Project talk pages indeed look like a good place to post at least my suggestion for changing the name of the Montgomery article. So I'll indeed seek discussion there before I post a "Requested move". (I think I will try the Mathematics project first.)
- With respect to your comment in the other thread: Via the article Wikipedia: Five pillars I've now found the article Wikipedia: BOLD, revert, discuss cycle, which states: "If you advance a potential edit on the article's talk page, and no response is received after a reasonable amount of time, go ahead and make your edit." (and which then at some length explains why). Which seems to answer my original question pretty well. But I'm glad to know now of the Project talk pages, and I would prefer to seek discussion there before making any edits.
- I think you are making the right choice with trying the projects first. Yes, the WP:BOLD does exist, but it is normally not the very first thing you suggest to a newbie. ;) It is better to tread carefully in a new environment. If you get stuck somewhere just give me a 'ping'. I will leave you a little note on your talk page how that is done. Cheers, w.carter-Talk 16:04, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
- Hello again w.carter. Excellent. Thank you for your offer of being available in case I should get stuck.
copie an article from WP:de to WP:en - asking for information how to do correct
Hello I just write my second article for the WP-Germany. This is an update about Georg Nees. The old text is just .... My new text is a work in progress and my mentor is now correcting the last errors.
- I am looking for some information to integrate my edits in german in the english article Georg Nees on this site. - Maxim Pouska -
copie an article from WP:de to WP:en - asking for information how to do correct --Maxim Pouska (talk) 11:00, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
- Hello there Maxim. So you have added to an article on DE.Wikipedia, and now you would like to make these same additions to the corresponding article on EN.Wikipedia, is that correct? In case you already have the text of the new EN article available and need someone to proof-read it, then maybe I could help. I'm very new to Wikipedia myself, but I'm near fluent in both German and English (I actually live in Germany at the moment), so proofreading an EN text is maybe something I can do. Reply here or comment on my talk page if I can be of service. --MRaccoon (talk) 14:09, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
- Hello both of you, Maxim Pouska and MRaccoon, and welcome to the Teahouse. It is good to see two newbies meeting here and helping each other out. MRaccoon is right that your additions to the article must be in correct English. More so, the text must be in encyclopedic English and referenced. The standards and rules here may differ from those of the German Wikipedia. The best thing would be for both of you to read Wikipedia:Your first article as well as Wikipedia:Five pillars. There are a bunch of links to other good help pages for you gathered in the welcome message you have on your talk pages. You may even be interested in doing the Wikipedia adventure (see the top of this page) to get started here. Best, w.carter-Talk 14:23, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
- @Maxim Pouska: I took a look at the de:Georg Nees and saw that it was tagged for not being properly referenced, so if you add translated text from that article, you need to find sources to support the new text, otherwise your edits may be reverted. w.carter-Talk 14:49, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
- Hello both of you, Maxim Pouska and MRaccoon, and welcome to the Teahouse. It is good to see two newbies meeting here and helping each other out. MRaccoon is right that your additions to the article must be in correct English. More so, the text must be in encyclopedic English and referenced. The standards and rules here may differ from those of the German Wikipedia. The best thing would be for both of you to read Wikipedia:Your first article as well as Wikipedia:Five pillars. There are a bunch of links to other good help pages for you gathered in the welcome message you have on your talk pages. You may even be interested in doing the Wikipedia adventure (see the top of this page) to get started here. Best, w.carter-Talk 14:23, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
- Hey Maxim Pouska and MRaccoon. One thing to be careful of is providing mandatory copyright attribution when you add the translated text. It's not difficult: When you copy text from there to here, use an edit summary like this Content in this edit is translated from the existing German Wikipedia article at [[:de:Georg Nees]]; see its history for attribution. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 16:07, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
Quick Question
Hello,
I am editing on Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Phantoms(game) and I wanted to ask whether I could use their website to use a reference for the multiple characters it presents to the gamers?
Thank You.Komchi✉☆ 09:20, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
- Hi Komchi, if it's their official website then of course you can use it as a source. By the way be careful not to add too much information about characters in the game. And remember you do not need to cite everything. For example game plots and film plots aren't cited usually. Cheers!--Chamith (talk) 09:37, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
- ChamithN(I should have stated some more details)This game is a free-to-play game that means it does not have any plots just title-who wins the game. If Ubisoft(game company) made this game and I use their cite for character references, isn't that WP:SPS?
- @Komchi:As long as the things you pick from that site are uncontroversial, you may use it . I like to quote what a very experienced editor said to me about WP:SELFSOURCE when I asked the same question as a newbie:
- "the information must be uncontroversial (children's birthdates are fine, unsubstatiated claims of acheiving cold fusion in the garage are not)"
- Best, w.carter-Talk 09:50, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
- @Komchi:As long as the things you pick from that site are uncontroversial, you may use it . I like to quote what a very experienced editor said to me about WP:SELFSOURCE when I asked the same question as a newbie:
- ChamithN(I should have stated some more details)This game is a free-to-play game that means it does not have any plots just title-who wins the game. If Ubisoft(game company) made this game and I use their cite for character references, isn't that WP:SPS?
YouTube
Hi, I want to write an article about YouTube. Will people be intersted?
TermlessFob2375YouTube (talk) 06:26, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
- Could you be more specific, TermlessFob2375YouTube? You'll get the best answer possible that way. DangerousJXD (talk) 06:32, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
Hi.
I want to start making fixes to Wikipedia, however, I don't know where to start. Is there some sort of page that shows pages that need fixing? Thank you. Zeke Essiestudy (talk) 23:25, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
- Try clicking on random article until you find something that says need fixing or you can tell needs a little cleaning up. Panewithholder (talk) 23:46, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
- Hello, Zeke Essiestudy. For a list of pages which have already been marked as needing work, you could look at pages listed in the main part of WP:WikiProject_Guild of Copy Editors/Requests. --ColinFine (talk) 00:19, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
- Hi Zeke. The Wikipedia:Community portal (which is a permanent link under the "interaction" menu on the left hand side of the interface) provides a big list of articles in need of work under defined categories, and you can have that list of open tasks always available by transcluding it into your user talk page or user page by adding the code {{Wikipedia:Community portal/Opentask}} to the one or the other. You can also sign up for delivery of suggested articles to edit at User:SuggestBot/Getting Recommendations Regularly. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 03:29, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
How to do a "profile"?
I'm new to wiki-editing and want to know how to do like the "profile" which is usually on the top right of the page describing the person/place/etc. Panewithholder (talk) 21:49, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
- Hello Panewithholder and welcome to the Teahouse. The page you refer to is not you "profile", it is your user page where you write something about your interest here on the Wikipedia. I have left you some more info about this and how you create one, plus a bunch of useful links on your talk page. Cheers, w.carter-Talk 22:11, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
- The previous answer assumes you are talking about the page User:Panewithholder. It sounds to me like you are actually talking about infoboxes in articles. See Help:Infobox for that. There are different infoboxes for different types of articles. For example, the top right of Jimmy Wales uses Template:Infobox person which has documentation there. You can also click the "Edit" or "View source" tab on an article to see how it does something. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:29, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
- Thank you PrimeHunter for covering both scenarios, I missed that one. (Too into the things newbies usually ask about) ;) Best, w.carter-Talk 22:48, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
- Thank you so much! Panewithholder (talk) 23:44, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
- Thank you PrimeHunter for covering both scenarios, I missed that one. (Too into the things newbies usually ask about) ;) Best, w.carter-Talk 22:48, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
- The previous answer assumes you are talking about the page User:Panewithholder. It sounds to me like you are actually talking about infoboxes in articles. See Help:Infobox for that. There are different infoboxes for different types of articles. For example, the top right of Jimmy Wales uses Template:Infobox person which has documentation there. You can also click the "Edit" or "View source" tab on an article to see how it does something. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:29, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
I want to post a page for BODYARMOR SuperDrink
I want to post a page for BODYARMOR SuperDrink. I submitted my page for review and it was removed because it read too much like an advertisement. I edited it according to the comments and it was again removed, but I did not receive feedback on what changes to make. Can you please follow the link to my sandbox and provide input on how the page can be edited so that it would fit criteria for approval? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ianvor/sandbox Ianvor (talk) 20:55, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
- Try something like this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powerade Panewithholder (talk) 21:51, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
- No, please don't, Ianvor. The Powerade article is better than your draft, but it contains far too much unreferenced detail. Panewithholder, I can see that you mean well, but I don't think you are experienced enough to be answering here. Please see Wikipedia:Teahouse/Host start. --ColinFine (talk) 00:14, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
Adding Template:WPStatistics template to talk pages - what about 'class' and 'importance'?
This is from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Statistics, specifically under Administrative tasks: Add the Template:WPStatistics banner to the talk page of articles in List of statistics articles. I am not sure what to do about the 'class' and 'importance' indicators. Copy them from another banner? Leave them blank?AppliedStatistics (talk) 07:19, 2 April 2015 (UTC)AppliedStatistics (talk) 20:30, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
- Blank, for now. Beginners like you who know the topic (any topic) are of course welcome, indeed needed, so we're very happy to have you. However, assessment requires studying a big fraction of the articles under the purview of the topical Project to get an idea of the range of quality. It's a big job and should be discussed beforehand in Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Statistics or similar page for whatever topical Project. Jim.henderson (talk) 20:52, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
Have finished writing Band Profile article in User Space and now stuck
Hello all. I have finished writing my first article in a User Space and am about to Save it but am worried. It's not quite right and I need to have someone help me by looking at it to make sure it's okay. My external links section doesn't look right. I need someone to look at the reference section to see if that's right. I also don't know if I'm supposed to sign it before I save it. It's definitely not ready to go live. I need to make sure someone else can see that I have proved the band notable, that it's neutral with no puffery. Help! What I do next? Corazon70Corazon70 (talk) 20:02, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
- @Corazon70: I went ahead and moved it to the article space and am making a few tweaks. But it certainly looks ready to me. Good work! --Jayron32 02:15, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
- @Jayron32 - Thank you so much! Does that mean it's like approved or could it still be deleted in future if someone doesn't like it? Corazon70Corazon70 (talk) 04:30, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
- @Corazon70: AFC "approval" is an optional process. Know that you're not required to follow it. We recommend that new users follow it as a sort of training thing, but any article can be put in the main space without approval. And my moving it to the main space doesn't give any formal stamp of "approval". I'm an editor no different than you, excepting that I've been here a while. My opinion is not official; really no one's is around here. Wikipedia doesn't have any official body to give approval of anything. All that being said; the article isn't going anywhere. It's not because I "approved" it, but because my years of experience tells me the minimum standards at WP:GNG have been cleared here. Any other experienced editor would say the same. Good luck with your further time at Wikipedia, if there is anything else I can help you with, feel free to contact me, and I'll see what I can do. --Jayron32 04:36, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
- @Jayron32: Okay, thank you for your explanation. There just seemed to be this thing of people being really worried about deletion of articles for all kinds of different reasons. Corazon70Corazon70 (talk) 04:39, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
- Oh, articles get deleted all the time. Most commonly it is because new users are unaware of Wikipedia's standards for having an article about a subject in the first place. Not everything that exists merits an article, and articles should be self-evidently about notable subjects. Once an article is about a self-evidently notable subject (as evidenced by the coverage of the subject in reliable sources) then it's here to stay. The article about this band had met those minimum standards, which is why it won't be deleted. --Jayron32 04:44, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
Who can award a Barnstar? And for What?
Who is allowed to award Barnstars and for what reasons can you award them?
I was really impressed by the constructive and non-acrimonious tone and contributions from all the people involved in the recent AFD discussion on the Alliance of Women Directors article. What could have been—with the wrong editors involved—a very nasty debate, turned into a very positive discussion. Even editors who strongly felt that the article should be deleted worked hard to find sources and fix problems with it. This is the kind of positive collaboration people don't hear a lot about in Wikipedia-land and I'd like to recognize it. Thanks. Carl Henderson (talk) 19:11, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
- You may refer this!
I too had asked this question and I hope you would me satisfied by the answer I was provided!
aGastya ✉ let's talk about it :) 19:23, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
- Thank you.Carl Henderson (talk) 19:37, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
Wrong imformation+Wrong citation, What should I do?
Hello, I am editing article,Call of Duty 3 where I say Gamespot review score as 9 but when I checked it did not have it instead it had 8.2 score. How can I check who did it or can someone take appropriate steps for me or teach me how to do it. Thank Komchi✉☆ 16:54, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
- Welcome to the Teahouse Komchi. If you spot an error on Wikipedia, you're more than welcome to correct it yourself by editing the page. Make sure that you cite your sources so that other people can similarly verify the statements you make. And if you think there might be disagreement, you may just opt to start a talk page discussion instead, presenting the evidence you found and seeking others' insights into how to resolve the contradictions. Make sense? Keihatsu talk 17:52, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
- Komchi, this is the sort of information that will change regularly. It may have been 9 when the previous editor checked, and now it has changed. Tomorrow it may change again. To handle a situation like this, you can use
{{as of}}
in the text to show when the information was current, and use one of the services that will archive the Web page (such as Webcite) to save a permanent copy of the page as it is now, for reference.--Gronk Oz (talk) 02:09, 4 April 2015 (UTC)- Gronk Oz I do not believe that is true because after a game releases all his Downloadable contents and extras and officially announce no more updates will be coming then the reviewers give it a final score which never changes by that time it may change though. Komchi✉☆ 02:22, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
- Good point, Komchi. I suppose it depends on whether that score comes from the site's own reviewers (in which case it will be stable) or from readers' feedback (in which case it could change). I do not have any insight into how they handle it on this particular site, so if you do then of course go with that.--Gronk Oz (talk) 09:31, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
- Gronk Oz I do not believe that is true because after a game releases all his Downloadable contents and extras and officially announce no more updates will be coming then the reviewers give it a final score which never changes by that time it may change though. Komchi✉☆ 02:22, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
- Komchi, this is the sort of information that will change regularly. It may have been 9 when the previous editor checked, and now it has changed. Tomorrow it may change again. To handle a situation like this, you can use
Policy for deletion
I have just downloaded a bio about myself on Wikipedia free. It was on the 'quick delete' status. I don't know why as it is all true and me. Can you help me understand the problem? Thanks. Dan O'DowdDan O'Dowd (talk) 16:45, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
- Removed it, the speedy deletion can only be contested on articles and thus it does not qualify the standards.Komchi✉☆ 17:03, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
- And the speedy deletion tag been reinstated and the page deleted. Dan, the issue is that your first, and so far only edit to Wikipedia other than this question has been to create a user page for yourself that goes beyond what is considered acceptable for a user page. WP:NOTWEBHOST says "Wikipedians have their own user pages, but they should be used primarily to present information relevant to working on the encyclopedia. Limited biographical information is allowed, but user pages should not function as personal webpages or be repositories for large amounts of material that is irrelevant to collaborating on Wikipedia." The truth or otherwise isn't the point, it appears that you are only trying to use Wikipedia to promote yourself which is not what Wikipedia is here for. Nthep (talk) 17:29, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
Query
[[as:ধনুষ]] was added by an IP editor on the page Dhanush, but this article is not there in Assamese. It was added amongst categories.
Q.1 Is it correct to remove that?
Q.2 If the article existed, should it be added?
aGastya ✉ let's talk about it :) 15:45, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
- aGastya, you were right to remove it. Different-language articles about the same subject are normally tied together via Wikidata, in the "Languages" list in the side bar. If it is not possible to tie the article to another one via Wikidata (usually because one language has an article on a broader subject than the other), a link like the one you removed may be used, but only if the target article actually exists. In this case, if somebody writes an article on Dhanush in the as: Wikipedia, it should be linked via Wikidata entry d:Q331050. --ColinFine (talk) 00:03, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
Is there a way to NOINDEX all subpages of a single page. StudiesWorld (talk) 13:47, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
- Hi StudiesWorld. This cannot be done in wikitext unless the pages transclude a common template and can be noindexed by that template. It's possible in MediaWiki:Robots.txt to do something similar to noindex for subpages of a given page, but this is only done in special cases like discussion boards with a lot of subpages. Where do you want to do it? If it's subpages of your user page then you have to do it yourself. The pages are listed at Special:PrefixIndex/User:StudiesWorld/. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:23, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
- @PrimeHunter: If I add it to a user page does it apply to the talk page? StudiesWorld (talk) 14:28, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
- @StudiesWorld: No, it only applies to the page itself. Your user talk subpages are listed at Special:PrefixIndex/User talk:StudiesWorld/. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:57, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
- @PrimeHunter: If I add it to a user page does it apply to the talk page? StudiesWorld (talk) 14:28, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
Place names on a map
I'm having difficulty finding out how to place names on a map. In Abercych the name runs off the edge of the map image, so I want the name on the left of the red "blob" (as seemed to happen automatically with the names on the map in List of places in Pembrokeshire). Can anyone help? Tony Holkham (Talk) 13:40, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
- @Tony Holkham:, welcome to the Teahouse. One of those obscure bits of Wiki markup but inside {{Location Map}} the position of the text label will default to left or right depending on the co-ordinates of the place relevant to the map edge. But inside {{Infobox UK place}}, the infobox in Abercych the default is right only. To fix this I added the parameter
|label_position=left
to the article infobox. Nthep (talk) 13:50, 3 April 2015 (UTC)- @Nthep: Two words: brilliant, thanks. Tony Holkham (Talk) 13:52, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
I have just done a complete update of my Profile which has been rejected. Please advise
I am Professor Satvinder Juss. My edit of my now details has been rejected and I do not understand why. Please Advice Satvinder Juss (talk) 11:56, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
- @Satvinder Juss: Welcome to the Teahouse. I reverted your edit per WP:AUTO; avoid editing or creating articles about yourself, as they often result in original research and/or a conflict of interest. --TL22 (talk) 13:33, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
- @Satvinder Juss:, the fact that you refer to your "profile" might point to a basic mis-understanding of what Wikipedia is about. It is not a professional or personal networking site like Linkedin or Facebook, and you don't create a profile for yourself here. This is an encyclopedia, where editors write independent articles about notable subjects.--Gronk Oz (talk) 14:34, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
- @Satvinder Juss:, you can create a profile on your user page provided your intention is to help with areas of the encyclopedia other than just an article about yourself. The profile should relate specifically to your activities here and not to promoting yourself. If you are here only to create your profile, then the above advice applies.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 14:53, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
- @Satvinder Juss:, the fact that you refer to your "profile" might point to a basic mis-understanding of what Wikipedia is about. It is not a professional or personal networking site like Linkedin or Facebook, and you don't create a profile for yourself here. This is an encyclopedia, where editors write independent articles about notable subjects.--Gronk Oz (talk) 14:34, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
Satvinder, TL22, Vchimpanzee - I think we can be a bit more constructive here, per the guideline WP:BIOSELF. Please correct me if I am wrong, but here is my understanding of how to move ahead. Satvinder is a notable person who is already the subject of an article (Satvinder S. Juss), and who is trying to bring it up to date in good faith (that is what I shall assume). Satvinder, the best way to proceed is for you to describe what you think should change on the Talk page of that article, and include independent references in reliable sources to back up each statement. Those references are vital; without them, information will not be verifiable and so it cannot be included. Once you have done this, other editors who do not have your conflict of interest can decide the best way to incorporate that new information into the article. The guideline I mentioned above lists several ways to invite editors or admins to act on your comments. I hope this helps to move things forward.--Gronk Oz (talk) 10:07, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
- I just noticed that the entire article has been nominated for deletion. Now is the time to provide those references, to verify the information provided and to show notability. So far, neither of the references that were provided actually support the statements they were supposed to. Biographies of living people must have valid references, so if you want to save the article then NOW is the time to provide them.--Gronk Oz (talk) 10:28, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
Patrol
Are redirect(ing) pages also to be patrolled?
aGastya ✉ let's talk about it :) 11:35, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
- Hello there! Redirect pages are to be patrolled to check that they are appropriate. However, only experienced editors are advised to patrol new pages as it requires an almost admin level of knowledge. If you want to help fight vandalism check out WP:CVUA. Thanks! TheMagikCow (talk) 14:15, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
Can I create a wiki article on myself?
I'm a YouTuber. I have a handle called tomboy diaries and I basically want to promote it. Having a wiki article will give it a cool, "in demand" vibe. I wanted to ask whether it will be appropriate and/or viewed enough not to be deleted because of less views. I'm hoping for an honest answer. Please help? :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tomboy diaries (talk • contribs) 11:24, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
- Article is not deleted based on number of views. You should read WP:PROMOTION. Unless you can show why you are notable, your article will likely be speedy deleted.--Cahk (talk) 11:27, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
- Taking a slightly different view to @Cahk:. It is generally frowned upon to write articles about yourself. If you are notable, someone will write an article about you. TheMagikCow (talk) 14:16, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
- I'm afraid that there is a fairly common view on the English Wikipedia that "being famous on Youtube is similar to being rich in Monopoly". For such an article to stand it would need solid independent reliable sources published outside of Youtube itself. Look for in depth mainstream media coverage such as news, magazines or reputable ezines. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 17:11, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
what is this credit given by wikipedia to their article writers?
Want to know that what are the benifits of writing articles in wikipedia. Wikipedia gives credits to the article writer but in which way does wikipedia gives credits to the writer. What is actually this thing credit means?122.162.78.208 (talk) 10:16, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
- Hello, welcome to the Teahouse. Credit means that the contributions of each editor is permanently registered in the page history seen when you click the "View history" tab. See more at Help:Page History. All edits by a specific user can also be seen on a page like Special:Contributions/PrimeHunter. Most articles have many contributors. Reusers of Wikipedia articles are required to give attribution in a way which enables their readers to find the contributors to the article. See more at Wikipedia:Copyrights. Some reusers name the authors directly but this is not a requirement. It is more common to give a link to the article. There are unfortunately also reusers who break our copyright by not giving any attribution. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:23, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
- To address the first part of your question, about the benefits of writing articles for Wikipedia: the only benefit I know of is the personal satisfaction. There is no pay, no royalties, no fame outside of this tiny stage. Just the thought that you have contributed to something worthwhile. That is just my own personal view.--Gronk Oz (talk) 14:41, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
Question about references
What does it mean when a reference is "archived from the original"? —DangerousJXD (talk) 08:31, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
- G'day, DangerousJXD. Some Web pages don't last; for example, some newspapers are notorious for getting rid of old stories. Or pages gets changed, so maybe it used to say that your subject was the Chairman, but not any more. Either way, it stuffs up our articles. One way around this is to use one of the "archive" services which will store a copy of the Web page, as it is today, for permanent reference. There are several such sites; the one I use is Webcite at http://www.webcitation.org/archive. Then when providing the citation, as well as providing the actual URL, also fill in the Archive URL and the Archive date. This will give the effect you describe, and will protect your articles from link rot.--Gronk Oz (talk) 10:35, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
- You're good, aren't you? :) Thanks for the terrific answer. –DangerousJXD (talk) 22:03, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
adding to an existing article
I wrote an article at 2003, which was extensively edited by other. How can I go in to add some new information to it? (24.170.194.33 (talk) 02:32, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
- Welcome to the Teahouse, IP editor. Simply click the "edit" button at the article, and make your changes. Please be aware that our standards are stricter than they were 12 years ago. So, be sure to reference any substantive additions to what reliable sources say about the topic. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 02:37, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
- @24.170.194.33:You can also be a registered sure which gives you more privileges and helps you to track the changes you had made and much more.Komchi✉☆ 13:50, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
Article titles in italics
How do I rename article titles to show them in italics? CabbagePotato (talk) 19:20, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
- Welcome to the Teahouse, CabbagePotato. You do not actually change the title of the article. Instead, you change how the title is displayed, by adding some wikicode to the beginning of the article, either a "magic word" or a template. Please read WP:ITALICTITLE to see the various options. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 19:30, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
- Sorry if this is a dumb question, but are you saying that I add the template using the "Edit" tab on the article page? CabbagePotato (talk) 19:34, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
- I think I figured it out. Thank you! CabbagePotato (talk) 19:44, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
- It's automatic for movies and TV series that use the correct infobox. This is what I was told.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 20:49, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
- Also for ships and species, and probably others too. Howicus (Did I mess up?) 21:42, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
- Infoboxes are optional. Some experienced editors hate them while others love them. Personally, I am neutral regarding infoboxes, but one thing that I am sure of is that arguing about infoboxes is counterproductive. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 02:08, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
- Also for ships and species, and probably others too. Howicus (Did I mess up?) 21:42, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
- It's automatic for movies and TV series that use the correct infobox. This is what I was told.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 20:49, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
- I think I figured it out. Thank you! CabbagePotato (talk) 19:44, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
Archives
Not a question about editing
Q.1 How to archive my talk page?
Q.2 Is it necessary? And why?
Thanks in advance!
aGastya ✉ let's talk about it :) 15:44, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
- @Acagastya:Hey there, you can add [[User talk:your username/archive]] add the old stuff there. It is necessary if you have long list of talk pages or an article discussions has a long discussion page, it helps from not being too crowded. Hope that answered your question buddy. Komchi✉☆ 16:45, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
- Thank you @Komchi:!
aGastya ✉ let's talk about it :) 16:48, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
Hello Acagastya, let's start with the why. As you get more and more sections on your talk page, it gets more cumbersome and difficult to manage for you and other editors. Since the WP motto is: "Archive Not Delete" it is better to archive discussions rather than blanking your page. See: Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines#When to archive pages. You can archive manually by making continuous pages, in your case User:Acagastya/Archive 1 and then use an archive template to show them. Or you can let a bot do all the work for you. You can read more at Help:Archiving a talk page. If you want an archiving bot set up I can help you with that. Or you can simply copy mine from my talk page. Just remember to fix the settings for your page (or ask me to check it for you). Best, w.carter-Talk 16:52, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
- Thank you for offering help @W.carter: but I will do it myself, else I won't learn these things!
I saw the code at your userpage.
But you can just tell me the value and use of the attributes to be specified in front of = symbol
aGastya ✉ let's talk about it :) 17:10, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
I want to write an article on "Ontoanalysis," a form of existential analysis
I want to write an article on "Ontoanalysis," a form of existential analysis that I studied with a professor at Binghamton University in New York, USA. How do I get started?173.173.108.35 (talk) 14:05, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
- You can go to this link WP:WIZARD. Be sure to read in instructions and include sources. TheMagikCow (talk) 15:07, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
New topic for article
hello I want to write an article on - Google keyword planner, can some one please confirm is that ok. while i have done research and found that there is no article on this subject. please confirm thanks 122.162.119.78
- @122.162.119.78: hello and welcome to The Teahouse. The topic is fine provided you can find multiple independent reliable sources such as books, magazines and newspapers, whose publishers have a reputation for accuracy and fact-checking, and who are also independent of the topic being covered, with extensive coverage of the topic.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 20:53, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
- And remember 122.162.119.78, that the article should be based entirely on published sources. If you think of putting some information in the article and you can't find a published source for it, don't put it in. --ColinFine (talk) 21:33, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
Deletion of an image again
Hello,
I uploaded a Barnstar(https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Comic_Barnstar_Hires.png) without reading a license of a photo I used and I want to delete it. Sorry for the screw up again. Thank you! Komchi✉☆ 12:35, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
- Hi Komchi welcome to the Teahouse. It's not clear what you want. Do you want an administrator to remove the image you uploaded? If you beilieve you made a mistake don't worry we've all been there. You just have to learn from your mistakes and make sure you won't keep making the same mistake again. Cheers--Chamith (talk) 12:55, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
Why did a newline screw up a template?
I'm working on a new template {{iswas}} for using when a date could either be present or past. I ran into an issue that confused me for a while. As you can see at [1] removing a single newline fixed the issue that it was adding weird markup including pre and p html tags to my template when transcluded. Why would it do that? Jerodlycett (talk) 11:40, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
- Hi Jerodlycett, welcome to the Teahouse. I guess you ended up with a line starting with a leading space after the template use. Leading spaces cause special formatting:
This line starts with a space.
- PrimeHunter (talk) 11:56, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks, I didn't see any leading space, and it was driving me nuts. It still works fine anyway. Now I'm working on documentation. Hopefully this template will see some use. Jerodlycett (talk) 12:00, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
Reference presentation
Hello Teahouse! Should reference titles have quotation marks? (These: "*Words*") I have seen some like this: "*Title of reference*" and some like this: *Title of reference*. When I title references I don't use quote marks. Thanks, --DangerousJXD (talk) 07:04, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
- Hi DangerousJXD. The title should usually either have quotation marks or italics depending on how it would be written elsewhere per Wikipedia:Manual of Style#Titles. See also Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Titles and Wikipedia:Citing sources#What information to include. If you use a citation template then it should automatically format the title correctly. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:33, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
Quick Question
Hello,
I recently created the Wine Barnstar Hires.PNG, https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wine_Barnstar_Hires.PNG. This is the 2.0 version of the Original Wine Barnstar, https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Barnstar-wine.png. Someone please add this to the table Barnstar(or can I add it myself) because it says to add to you personal award page.
Thank You.
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Wine Barnstar 2.0 version
Komchi✉☆ 05:56, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
- Hi Komchi. Thank you for wanting to contribute to the awards section. Pardon me for saying so, it may be since it is Easter, but to me that barnstar looks a bit religious with the chalice and all. An ordinary glass might be a better representative for wine tasting and wine related subjects. Best, w.carter-Talk 09:18, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
- No problem. When you edit on the Wikipedia, you have to take into account that people from different cultures and religions may see things differently than you do. To western Christians, a golden chalice is a very strong symbol in a way it may not be in India where you live. Cheers, w.carter-Talk 09:35, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
- Today was certainly an appropriate day to ask this question. I should mention that I personally don't drink and would prefer not to receive a barnstar with any connection to alcohol. By the way, a lot of western Christians do not observe the Eucharist with actual alcohol. My local church is one of them. In the ritual, my current pastor says "fruit of the vine" rather than wine. Our grape juice is not fermented.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 21:00, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
Submitting First Article
I'm very new to this, and I attempted my first article which has been declined twice since I didn't format it right. I've resubmitted it again, and I feel like I have everything fixed. I haven't seen a response to the submission for about 11 days. I'm wondering what can I do to move this along? Help please!
SirChristoph84 (talk) 00:12, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
- Hi, SirChristoph84 and welcome to the Teahouse. I cleaned up the formatting of your article (Draft:Minneapolis Beard and Moustache Club) a little, and your references have certainly improved. However, the latest reviewer did not reject it because of the formatting; the issue was whether there was enough evidence to demonstrate that the MBMC is "notable" in Wikipedia's special meaning of the word (the first reviewer also made mention of this). Basically, this means the article has to show that there has been extensive, independent coverage of the MBMC in reliable sources. I expect the best way to show this is to expand the sections on "MBMC in The Media" and "MBMC Community Involvement" - instead of just listing the media coverage, write up a summary of the pertinent points and why they are relevant. For example, the first media reference is a good one, so why not put in some text such as "The Star Tribune highlighted the club's activities in its article about how facial hair is returning to fashion" (or something - use your own words) to show why you have included the reference. Then also describe and add references to support the "MBMC Community Involvement". Also, there are far too many External links, with no indication of their significance: it makes me wonder if they would be better worked into the article as references. --Gronk Oz (talk) 03:14, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
- Thank you Gronk Oz very much for your input and cleaning up the formatting. What you are saying makes sense, so thank your for clarifying more. I thought from one of the last responses that all links needed to be in "external links", but I can see how making them a reference would tie them in better to the reading of the whole article. Thanks again for your guidance. I'll make those changes, but how would I resubmit for review when it's already in review?
SirChristoph84 (talk) 14:54, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
How to have two titles refer to the same page
Hi. I am creating a page for women in global environmental change and one for women in climate change which have much the same content. Can I have it point to the same page I have created if people enter one or the other of the search terms? Or do I need to create a completely separate page? I have already submitted 'Women in Global Environmental Change' for review. ThanksDianaliverman (talk) 23:13, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
- Yes a redirect is something you should do. There's an article about redirects here, but in your case, to redirect "women in climate change" to "women in global environmental change", the text for the "women in climate change" page would be #REDIRECT Women in Global Environmental Change. Also, on Wikipedia, redirects are always used instead of duplicating articles. Joseph2302 (talk) 00:17, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
How to mark up blockquotes containing multiple paragraphs
According to the wiki documentation I've seen so far, blockquotes are said to be marked up like so:
<blockquote>Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet.</blockquote>
which display as you'd expect:
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet.
However, this style of markup doesn't work with multiple-paragraph quotes:
<blockquote>Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet. Consectetuer adipiscing elit.</blockquote>
The above displays as a single blockquoted paragraph:
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet. Consectetuer adipiscing elit.
I have found a workaround, to enter a carriage return immediately after the opening tag:
<blockquote> Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet. Consectetuer adipiscing elit.</blockquote>
Now the two paragraphs are properly formatted:
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet.
Consectetuer adipiscing elit.
This foible strikes me as significant enough to add to the wiki documentation. Do you agree? Juniperpaul (talk) 22:36, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
- Welcome to the Teahouse, Juniperpaul. The carriage return to start a new paragraph does not apply just to blockquotes. It is the standard way to create a new paragraph in wikicode and is familiar to all experienced editors. We do not use the old technique of indenting at the beginning of a new paragraph.
- More importantly, it is rare that a Wikipedia article should include a quote of several paragraphs. Most material published since 1923 is copyrighted, and it is best to limit quotes from copyrighted sources to no more than two or three sentences, except in limited cases. Even when quoting older sources where copyright has expired, an encyclopedia article should summarize and paraphrase the sources, rather than quoting them at great length. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 04:11, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
Thanks, Cullen328. I believe I'm using blockquotes properly to format blocks of quoted text (not as a way of indenting normal text). I want to format the quotes as more than one paragraph only because that's how the original text was written.
What I'm pointing out is a peculiarity in the way the wiki software displays blockquote markup. Carriage returns separating text within the blockquote are ignored unless there's a carriage return immediately after the opening <blockquote>
tag.
I've added Template:Code markup to my post above to make it more clear what I mean. Juniperpaul (talk) 09:50, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
Redirect problem
My page History of the United States National Security Council during the Nixon Administration isn't linked to the title I have written in it which is definitely an article title. Rubbish computer (talk) 22:09, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
- Hi Rubbish computer, the article has an en dash instead of a hyphen in accordance with Wikipedia:Manual of Style#Dashes. I fixed the redirect.[2] I use copy and paste to ensure links will work. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:42, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
- Thank you. Rubbish computer (talk) 22:55, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
- Hey Rubbish computer. Between this thread and a few others you've posted where the problem you ran into was not reproducing the title exactly as in the original, I suspect that you are not copying and pasting the title but retyping it manually. Though the article on copy and paste was linked above, here's a summary (some of which I copied and pasted from prior posts). Highlight text you want to copy by placing your cursor at the beginning of it, clicking with your mouse and running the cursor to the end of it (if a single word, just click twice on it). You can copy that highlighted text and paste it through menus or with commands. For the former, after highlighting, go to (typically) file in your browser's menu, select copy, and then go to the place where you want to paste it, click there, and then choose paste in the same way from the file menu tab dropdown. Or, do the same highlighting, but then right click on what you highlighted and you will probably get a menu right there with copy and paste options. I personally find it much faster to use commands though. For that, after highlighting, hit Ctrl+c (on a PC); ⌘ Cmd+c (on a Mac), and then to paste, Ctrl+v (on a PC); ⌘ Cmd+v (on a Mac). Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:57, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
Extensive copyright problem
I have recently edited some of the articles in Category:Upazilas of Bangladesh and its subcategories (these can also be found at Upazilas of Bangladesh#List of Upazilas). Many of these articles appear to be lists of staistics which are very similar, such as the one shown in the external link of Matlab Dakshin Upazila. Although on this particular article copying has not occurred, many articles on Upazilas of Bangladesh appear to have been copied and pasted from a site called Banglapedia. The information on this website is copyrighted from 2012, meaning that this is a direct copyright violation on a large scale UNLESS the website has specifically given permission for this. THIS IS NOT AN APRIL FOOLS JOKE. Rubbish computer (talk) 19:30, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
- Hey Rubbish computer. Can you list a few articles where you see this apparent copying? I spot checked five just now against their entries at Banglapedia and didn't find any copying but there are many articles in the category so I may have just un-lucked out.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 21:39, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
- Thank you, I will find some shortly. Rubbish computer (talk) 22:07, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
Alamdanga Upazila may be one but I can't immediately tell. Companiganj Upazila, Sylhet appears to contain this content in the section Demographics. Sreemngal Upazila in at least one section. Sorry I misspelled that and I don't know the correct name.Jhenaigati Upazila#Demographics and the section 'Administrative' may be copied. On Bheramara Upazila#Geography the section has been copied and pasted from elsewhere in such a way that copyright violation is obvious. Dewanganj Upazila appears to largely have been copied. I didn't write this all at once but came back to it later on. Rubbish computer (talk) 22:12, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
- Hey RC. This is going to be a huge pain to clean up! Sometimes it's easy: a whole block of text is lifted, and you can reconstruct exactly when and there's no intervening edits changing it. I just looked at Sreemangal Upazila and it's all over the place. A sentence lifted here, and another there, and pasted in between original content, but modified slightly and so on; separating the wheat from the chaff is the problem. Anyway, I've listed this as a copyright violation by adding to the page {{subst:copyvio|url=http://www.banglapedia.org/HT/S_0601.htm}} and then posting to today's copyright violation page (the instructions for doing that are in the template when you place it). You can emulate that for others. I have done a lot of copyright cleaning in the past – taking on doing the cleaning myself rather than tagging, but I'm just not up for this right now. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:56, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
'what links here' question
Dear friends, When I use 'what links here' tool, I'd really like to see the articles that link to a particular article X. But if article X is placed into some Infobox, then, instead, I get to see the list of articles where this Infobox is included. Not the same thing! :)
So, in other words, is there a way to sort out the Infobox links from the real links? Some search filter perhaps? Thank you. Eio-cos (talk) 18:35, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
- Hi @Eio-cos: Welcome to the Teahouse! When you visit Special:WhatLinksHere, you'll see a list of filters. Selecting "Hide transclusions" will disclude links from templates, such as the infoboxes. ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 18:40, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
- Thank you for your help, SuperHamster. I tried what you suggested but it didn't work... Specifically, I'm looking for pages that link to Teuchitlan tradition. On my browser (FF) I didn't see "Hide transclusions" as filter; I saw it as hotlink instead, after I used WhatLinksHere. So when I clicked hotlink "Hide transclusions", nothing happens, and I still see a long and useless list of articles where an Infobox is included.
- @Eio-cos: It's a frequent request but not possible. Many previous requests are listed at Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2015 March 25#Filtering "what links here". PrimeHunter (talk) 21:52, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
Conflict of interest; need someone else to edit
Hi, I work with the manager of a comedian who has a Wiki page, and I need someone else to edit as I've been told my conflict of interest prevents me from doing so properly. Who do I need to give my suggested edits to, or what exact page do I need to be on? Justinsilvera (talk) 18:09, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
- Hi Justinsilvera, welcome to the teahouse and thank you for declaring your conflict of interest.
Rather than me repeat the instructions, could you please see Template:Request edit/Instructions (click the blue link to be taken there) If, having read the instructions, you have any questions, please come back here and ask again. - Arjayay (talk) 18:24, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
- Hi @U:Justinsilvera: welcome the the Teahouse, I believe you are a manager of a comedian but do you have reliable sources to prove the changes you are giving because Wikipedia believes in Reliable sources. If you have reliable sources, feel free to take me as your reviewer. Komchi✉☆ 06:20, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
help how can i save article from deletion ?
i wrote the article mutiny of colours and now i see error (This article is being considered for deletion in accordance with Wikipedia's deletion policy.) can any one help me to solve the problem ? (Mahan khomamipor (talk) 12:38, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
- Welcome to the Teahouse. Perhaps you mean Mutiny of Colours? The discussion regarding deletion is at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mutiny of Colours. --David Biddulph (talk) 12:44, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
- Hello, Mahan khomamipor. I have argued at the deletion discussion to keep the article, because I think the references in the "Further reading" section do establish notability. The other problems mentioned in that nomination are real, though. Ideally, you shouldn't be writing the article at all, because of your conflict of interest. But the article should contain only information in those sources, and the information should be referenced inline (see referencing for beginners). --ColinFine (talk) 15:23, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
Referencing people
I am wondering how to cite sources directly from the individual themselves. I am working on developing an article on David C. Rubin for a psychology course, and was having no luck in finding his early life anywhere. So my group has been in contact with Rubin throughout the project and asked him about his early life and he gave us the information...how do I cite this? thank you.
Kmemcc22 (talk) 15:25, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
- Hello, Kmemcc22. I'm afraid the answer is, you don't. One of the pillars of Wikipedia is Verifiability, and that means that if information hasn't been published in a reliable source, it doesn't go into a Wikipedia article. This in turn is what is behind the principle of notability (in Wikipedia's special sense): if not enough information has been published (in independent reliable sources) to ground an article, then it is impossible to write an acceptable article, and you will not be allowed to attempt it. If there are sources about Rubin, there may be an article on him; but if none of them say anything about his early life, then the article must not do so. --ColinFine (talk) 15:32, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
- Kmemcc22 welcome to The Teahouse. There is another way. If you can find a reputable publisher of a journal or newspaper who is willing to print your research, that can be used as a reliable source.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 21:38, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
Extensive copyright problem (not April Fool)
I have recently edited some of the articles in Category:Upazilas of Bangladesh, and its subcategories (these can also be found at Upazilas of Bangladesh#List of Upazilas. Many of these articles appear to be lists of statistics which are very similar, such as the one shown in the external link to Matlab Dakshin Upazila. Although on this particular article no copying has occurred, many articles on Upazilas in Bangladesh appear to have been copied and pasted from a website called Banglapedia. The information on this website is copyrighted from 2012, meaning that this is a direct copyright violation on a large scale. This is NOT an April Fools joke.Rubbish computer (talk) 12:20, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
- See above (it will be below when archived, but then that link won't work).— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 21:36, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
What is wrong with my citations?
Having read and reread the standards for citations, I contend my citations meet the standards. Yet, my article has been rejected three times over citations. Quote from Wikipedia on citations: Self-published and questionable sources as sources on themselves Shortcut:
- WP:SELFSOURCE
Self-published or questionable sources may be used as sources of information about themselves, especially in articles about themselves, without the requirement that they be published experts in the field, so long as the following criteria are met:
- The material is neither unduly self-serving nor an exceptional claim.
- It does not involve claims about third parties (such as people, organizations, or other entities).
- It does not involve claims about events not directly re lated to the subject.
- There is no reasonable doubt as to its authenticity.
- The article is not based primarily on such sources.
Every paragraph on the article "Von Lombard" is sourced. Mostly from third party, independent sources. Only a few from self-published sources but who better knows the subject than self? If a person's own published testimony is rejected, then we could have no courtroom witnesses. Please advise. Many thanks.Crimsontidealabama (talk) 07:53, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
- Hello, Crimsontidealabama, and welcome to the Teahouse. The first time the article (Draft:Von Lombard) was rejected was because of the references, but the next time was for a different reason - the information provided did not show that the subject (Von Lombard) meets Wikipedia's standard for being notable. These two concepts are related - one of the purposes of the references is to show that the subject has received extensive, independent coverage in reliable sources. The references still need a lot of work, for example the same web site (www.vonlombard.com) is referenced at least 4 times with different descriptions so they look like different references if you don't look closely. But more importantly, read the criteria for Notability and make sure you address those. The reviewers have offered to field specific questions as well.--Gronk Oz (talk) 08:19, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
undo and restore on user contributions
Hello, I want to know what the undo and restore button mean? The only time I ever use the undo and restore button is when I go to the Wikidata page.Studentcollege (talk) 06:41, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
- Welcome back Studentcollege. Are you asking about the “undo” and “restore this version” links on difference pages like this? If so, “undo” attempts to undo the changes between the two versions if later changes do not interfere. “restore this version” unconditionally restores the selected version, discarding all later changes. —teb728 t c 06:59, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
- Thank you. Much appreciated.Studentcollege (talk) 07:05, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
What was the "Bogdanov affair"
It mentioned that all involved users were blocked. Why? The article is confusing. RedPanda25 (talk) 00:34, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
- See Bogdanov_affair#Spread_of_the_dispute. I'm assuming you mean blocked at Wikipedia. The users who were blocked were largely blocked for using Wikipedia for advocacy of their own personal point of view and for maintaining an army of illegitimate accounts for the purpose of maintaining that point of view and masking their own identity. --Jayron32 01:28, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
Thanks. I get it now. RedPanda25 20:05, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
Company Page, Working on Resolution
Thank you for your helpful feedback. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jessiepgoldberg (talk • contribs) 13:03, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
Embed photo
Hello- I've found a photo on flickr- it shows the icons for BY-NC so I think I can use this in the infobox of a person. I see there is an expected syntax of "
". Where do I look in Flickr for the "Name"? Am I understanding the correct usage of the syntax? How does the Wikipedia page know to go to Flickr to find the image? Thank you.Rkatsuno (talk) 19:07, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
- Sorry, @Rkatsuno:, but "CC-BY-NC" is not compatible with Wikipedia's license, so you cannot upload it here. Wikipedia's license is CC-BY-SA. The difference is that "NC" is only licensed for non-commercial use. Wikipedia itself is non-commercial, but requires that its material be allowed for commercial use so downstream users can use it as such. Being CC-BY-NC makes it ineligible for use at Wikipedia. You'd need a compatible license to use it. Wikipedia:File copyright tags contains a list of allowable licenses, while Wikipedia:Image use policy contains the full policy for using images at Wikipedia. Of note, the policy states "Note that images that are licensed for use only on Wikipedia, or only for non-commercial or educational use...are unsuitable" Sorry! --Jayron32 19:21, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
- Wow- super helpful. She's given me a photo and I checked out Flickr, I'll show her how to upload CY-SA. Now the original question- how to enter the correct syntax so it can be found at Flickr? Thank you.Rkatsuno (talk) 20:03, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
- Hey Rkatsuno. If I'm understanding your question, Wikipedia does not hotlink to images. Instead, you would have to download the file to your computer and then upload it. However, if an image bears a suitably free and compatible license, it should actually be uploaded to the Wikimedia Commons instead of here, so that all projects have access to the image (sign up). Once uploaded there, it can be used natively here, using our normal image syntax, or inside an infobox wrapper. By the way, just be aware of License laundering, of which "flickr washing" is a very common variety, In short, you can't always trust that the person who purports to hold the copyright license, and who provides a free license at Flickr or elsewhere, is not actually infringing on the real owner of the copyright. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 21:19, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
Again, very helpful, thank you. The main thing is she needs to know that this photo of herself that's going into her infobox will become available to anyone to use, copy, modify, and sell without notifying her, and with that permission from her I can upload it into Wikimedia Commons or have her do it and that will result in an image "name" that I can then refer to on her Wikipedia page. Can you kindly confirm I've got the concept and the steps? Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rkatsuno (talk • contribs) 00:00, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
Article may or may not be contradicting itself
In this article, 1563 Act For the Relief of the Poor, the wording '1562 Act' is immediately used. I cannot tell if this is a mere typo or the article contradicting its title as the 2 references are not websites. On Tudor Poor Laws, towards the end, this is referred to as the 1563 act with a wikilink but I cannot tell for sure if this was actually the 1562 Act. Rubbish computer (talk) 11:52, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
- Update: In the section Tudor Poor Laws#References, on Reference 1, a Poor Law Act is mentioned in 1562, not 1563, adding to the confusion. Rubbish computer (talk) 11:54, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
- The best place to ask questions in on the article talk pages, Talk:1563 Act For the Relief of the Poor and Talk: Tudor Poor Laws. The first sentence of the article on the 1563 act has been changed to 1563, so that 1562 may have been a typo. The 1563 act article does not have a talk page yet, but creating a new section will create the talk page. Robert McClenon (talk) 16:53, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
- Thank you. Rubbish computer (talk) 13:20, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
- The best place to ask questions in on the article talk pages, Talk:1563 Act For the Relief of the Poor and Talk: Tudor Poor Laws. The first sentence of the article on the 1563 act has been changed to 1563, so that 1562 may have been a typo. The 1563 act article does not have a talk page yet, but creating a new section will create the talk page. Robert McClenon (talk) 16:53, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
question
Hi i decided not to use admin's time and post this here. Is there any chance i'll be given rollback rights? Thank You A.A.Wasif | Talk 16:50, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
- What do you want to use them for? --Skamecrazy123 (talk) 16:51, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
- The questioner has perhaps forgotten the advice which he was given not many weeks ago]: "I am therefore formally requesting that you cease asking for or otherwise applying for any advanced permisssions for the next three months at a minimum." 19 days does not equal 3 months. --David Biddulph (talk) 17:00, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
- @David Biddulph: & @Skamecrazy123: What are rollback rights? (Sorry I was just looking through the questions trying to learn something) BluJay (talk) 01:03, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
- @BluJay: You can often learn about something by entering it in the search box after
wp:
like wp:rollback. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:25, 2 April 2015 (UTC)- @PrimeHunter: Okay, Thanks for the advice! BluJay (talk) 01:57, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
- @BluJay: You can often learn about something by entering it in the search box after
- @David Biddulph: & @Skamecrazy123: What are rollback rights? (Sorry I was just looking through the questions trying to learn something) BluJay (talk) 01:03, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
Current
What is current in user contribution section? I have fixed some error and got the points from Wikipedia but in some articles it is showing me current. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ashleyfta (talk • contribs) 07:18, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
- Welcome to the Teahouse Ashleyfta. Current in your contributions means you have the most recent edit to the page. The lack of current means that someone has edited the page after you. —teb728 t c 07:28, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
Helpppppppp
Hi I was wondering if you could help me write my first article. I have no idea how to do it. Or if you can write it? Its about my father which is a famous singer, has had a TV show for decades, is an actor, and also has a youtube video which has gone viral? I can provide all the info needed...or if you can just help me which writting a basic article I would greatly appreciate it — Preceding unsigned comment added by HELGALOANS (talk • contribs) 09:39, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
- Hello, HELGALOANS, and welcome to the Teahouse. It's great that you want to help us develop Wikipedia, and I suggest you read your first article, and perhaps work through The Wikipedia Adventure if you haven't done much editing. But, working on an article about your father is probably not a good place to start. The problem is that you have a conflict of interest, which may make it difficult for you to write in a sufficiently neutral way. If you do decide to go ahead with it, I recommend you read all the links I've given, and then use the article wizard, so that you create the article in draft: space, and then submit it for review by others. If you do try, some things you need to bear in mind are
- The subject needs to be notable, in Wikipedia's special sense - that doesn't depend on being well known, or having made a video, but on there being substantial published articles about him in reliable sources (such as major newspapers), written by people unconnected with him.
- In fact, every single piece of information in the article needs to come from a published source; and most of it from sources with no connection to him: and the sources must be referenced, statement by statement. If you know something about him, but it hasn't been published, don't put it in the article. If you want to put anything even the slightest bit evaluative (such as "famous", or "influential" or "original"), and you can't find an independent published sources that says this, don't put it in the article. If you want to write anything that belongs in a promotional source (such as his own website) but not in an encyclopaedia: don't.
- If there has been material widely published which is critical of him, this should go in the article, even if you might prefer it didn't.
- Do you see why it might be hard for you, being so close, to write an acceptable article? That's why I suggest you start with something else. But however you decide to continue, I hope you enjoy contributing to Wikipedia. --ColinFine (talk) 10:04, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
Temporary Page
Hello,
Recently I have recreated an article, User talk:SiloniSam/Carborundum Universal Ltd/Temp, which was previously deleted for copyvio issue. What next and what else I supposed to do now to get my article to the main space. SiloniSam (talk) 03:52, 2 April 2015 (UTC)SiloniSam
- Hello, SiloniSam: when you think it is ready, submit it for review by editing it to put {{subst:submit}} at the top. On a quick look, I think it is probably acceptable, but it could do with still more references: there are several unreferenced statements in the text. The references could also be given a little more information (eg title, author, date). See referencing for beginners. --ColinFine (talk) 21:38, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
Thank u ColinFine, I will work on that — Preceding unsigned comment added by SiloniSam (talk • contribs) 04:23, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
User Page
I have created simple article on my user page User:Suniltx/sandbox but its been declined. So Could you please guide me what kind of information will be accepted. Sunil (talk) 05:18, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
- Welcome to the Teahouse Suniltx. You were intending that as a Wikipedia:user page-- not an article, right? Assuming that to be the case, I moved it to User:Suniltx, which is the proper place for your user page. The reason it was not accepted was that the reviewer took it as a draft article. —teb728 t c 20:49, 2 April 2015 (UTC)