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''All above have been confirmed by Ideogram. [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3ASuspected_sock_puppets%2FIdeogram&diff=149685054&oldid=149683899]'' |
''All above have been confirmed by Ideogram. [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3ASuspected_sock_puppets%2FIdeogram&diff=149685054&oldid=149683899]'' |
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*{{userlinks|Addhoc}} for this suspicious edit [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Addhoc&diff=next&oldid=65757372], among other early edits that indicate an experienced user contructing a new identity. |
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*{{user5|1=Superior IQ Genuis}} - was edit warring on July 5, 2006 with above Galindo and Ideogram - already blocked. |
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*{{userlinks|Superior IQ Genuis}} - was edit warring on July 5, 2006 with above Galindo and Ideogram - already blocked. |
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Revision as of 18:42, 8 August 2007
User:Ideogram
- Suspected sockpuppeteer
Ideogram (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
- Declared accounts
- IdeoBot (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) - bot account, properly identified
- Suspected sockpuppets
- Wang C-H (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) - confirmed by Ideogram. [1]
- Ilovetaiwan (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) - WP:DUCK - see [2]
- Galindo (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) - WP:DUCK - see [3]
- R1es (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
- Medcabemail (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
All above have been confirmed by Ideogram. [4]
- Addhoc (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) for this suspicious edit [5], among other early edits that indicate an experienced user contructing a new identity.
- Superior IQ Genuis (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) - was edit warring on July 5, 2006 with above Galindo and Ideogram - already blocked.
- Devout Christian (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) - already blocked.
- Report submission by
Jehochman Talk 18:05, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
- Evidence
Wang C-H
- Ideogram is making odd edits to the User:Wang C-H page [6]. Ideogram has also blanked warnings from User talk: Wang C-H. [7] There's no talk between the two at all.
- Wang C-H created User:Wang C-H/navigation templates. [8]. Ideogram later created the exact same thing in his own user space, User:Ideogram/navigation templates. [9]
- In Wang C-H's seventh edit to Wikipedia, he copies a chunk of User:Ideogram/common article practices I dislike to his own user page. [10]
- Ideogram has a history of disruption. (See block log.) We see the same sort of disruption from Wang C-H, including improper AfD nomination and then improper removal of AfD tags [11][12]
- Both users seem to employ a "strike and run" tactic. Abusive motions are filed, and then retracted. Compare these AfD nominations by Wang C-H, [13] and [14] with this arbitration request by Ideogram: [15]
- Both users focus extensively on China and seem to be pushing a pro-People's Republic of China POV by deleting, or reducing the visibility of any negative information or any mention of Taiwan/Republic of China:
- These two users have not corresponded on wiki. The above pattern of editing strongly suggests sock puppetry or meat puppetry, in my opinion. Jehochman Talk 19:47, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
- Editing sessions fit together neatly without overlapping. Editing sequences by Wang on Aug 5 - 6 do not overlap editing sequences by Ideogram.
- Policy violation: Sock puppet R1es (talk · contribs) was used for block evasion numerous times on April 19-20, 2007. See [23] and [24] Note: 02:36, 19 April 2007 Blnguyen (Talk | contribs) blocked "Ideogram (contribs)" (anon. only, account creation blocked) with an expiry time of 48 hours (disrupting arbcom)
- Policy violation: Sock puppet Galindo (talk · contribs) was edit warring [25] [26] [27] along side Ideogram up to 5RR [28]. In the middle of this edit war Galindo left a 3RR warning for the opposing editor [29].
- Leads
- "R1es has 113 different edits, of which nearly half were on the 19th and 20th of April, a period for which Ideogram was banned." See [30].
- Comments
Yes, it's my sockpuppet. My understanding was that sockpuppets are tolerated as long as no policy is violated, and I don't see any policy violation cited here. --Ideogram 02:20, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
- Thank you for that, and yes, there are legitimate reasons to operate socks, especially if they are openly declared which Wang C-H was not. We have to decide if there are violations of site policy. The most obvious would be operating multiple accounts to avoid scrutiny or for block evasion. Given your block history and excessive number of disputes, this is worth a bit more due diligence. Jehochman Talk 02:51, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
- Let's save some time. They are all my socks. It is up to others to determine if there are policy violations worth acting on here. --Ideogram 03:14, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
- Not at this time. --Ideogram 03:44, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
Woah. You think I was edit-warring with myself? I suggest you not waste time on this. --Ideogram 04:47, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
- Comment: I have no opinion on this case, but editors edit warring with themselves, to create a false sense of what's right or controversy, or just to throw people off their sockpuppet trails isn't unheard of --L-- 05:05, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
- Uh, okay. But you really are wasting your time. --Ideogram 05:07, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
See here. There are only three edits by Galindo (talk · contribs) and the first is not a revert. --Ideogram 04:47, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
- Conclusions
Referred to Wikipedia:Community sanction noticeboard for further discussion. Jehochman Talk 05:03, 7 August 2007 (UTC)