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:*You have [[WP:IPSOCK|IP socked]] on an article before as you used your account [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=898299841&diff=prev&diffmode=source to revert] back to your IP edit. |
:*You have [[WP:IPSOCK|IP socked]] on an article before as you used your account [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=898299841&diff=prev&diffmode=source to revert] back to your IP edit. |
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:*Then there was [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=911864712&diff=prev&diffmode=source this edit] followed by [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=911865118&diff=prev&diffmode=source this] which I believe that you requested oversight for? Not sure why you would request oversight but then make [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=913703539&diff=prev&diffmode=source this edit] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=913703679&diff=prev&diffmode=source this edit] both with summaries where you claim, "This is 65.78; I haven't felt like logging in, but I'm doing so now..." and you posted behind your IP a few days after that [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=914220478&diff=prev&diffmode=source here].<br /> — [[User:Berean Hunter|<span style="font-family:High Tower Text;color:#0000ff;font-weight:900;">Berean Hunter</span>]] [[User talk :Berean Hunter|<span style="font-family:High Tower Text;color:#0000ff;font-weight:900;">(talk)</span>]] 18:22, 22 March 2020 (UTC) |
:*Then there was [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=911864712&diff=prev&diffmode=source this edit] followed by [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=911865118&diff=prev&diffmode=source this] which I believe that you requested oversight for? Not sure why you would request oversight but then make [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=913703539&diff=prev&diffmode=source this edit] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=913703679&diff=prev&diffmode=source this edit] both with summaries where you claim, "This is 65.78; I haven't felt like logging in, but I'm doing so now..." and you posted behind your IP a few days after that [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=914220478&diff=prev&diffmode=source here].<br /> — [[User:Berean Hunter|<span style="font-family:High Tower Text;color:#0000ff;font-weight:900;">Berean Hunter</span>]] [[User talk :Berean Hunter|<span style="font-family:High Tower Text;color:#0000ff;font-weight:900;">(talk)</span>]] 18:22, 22 March 2020 (UTC) |
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*Thanks, {{u|Berean Hunter}}, I was planning on getting around to this today. {{u|Tenebrae}}, I have blocked you for two weeks. The only reason it isn’t indefinite is that you directly admitted it once. Since that admission however, you’ve edited in project space logged out and have ignored Bbb23’s request for an explanation, which amounts to avoiding scrutiny, which is prohibited by our policy on use of multiple accounts. BH has disabled logged out editing for a year on your IP, which is appropriate given the policy violations. Your edits here show your account isn’t impacted. After your two week block is up, you’re free to edit using your account. I’m closing this case now. [[User:TonyBallioni|TonyBallioni]] ([[User talk:TonyBallioni|talk]]) 18:34, 22 March 2020 (UTC) |
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07 March 2020
– This SPI case is closed and will be archived shortly by an SPI clerk or checkuser.
Suspected sockpuppets
- Tools: Editor interaction utility • Interaction Timeline • User compare report Auto-generated every hour.
I’m on a phone so will have to do this over several edits; apology in advance.
I was concerned that 65.78.8.103‘s very adept-almost masterful-arguments on a subject coupled with their advanced knowledge of Wikipedia indicates they were quite experienced and unlikely a newer user. It wasn’t until a day or so ago that Tenebrae, who had nearly identical style and arguments on the same subject perhaps tipped their hand[1] writing in the same style and stating the matter would be taken to ANI, which 65.78.8.103 immediately did [2]. Looking at their interactions report [3] confirmed a steady overlap of editing.
Between 2016-06-01 and 2020-03-07 on en.wikipedia.org User:Tenebrae (talk | contribs) and User:65.78.8.103 (talk | contribs) both made edits to some pages in common. You can see a chronological list of all their edits on the Interaction Timeline or a table view on the Interaction Analyser. Gleeanon409 (talk) 19:50, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
- I have never argued on a single talk page as both 65.78.8.103 and Tenebrae. Indeed, scrupulously, Tenebrae never appears in the RfC at Talk:Peppermint (drag queen)#Request for comment on whether to include Peppermint's birth name. Moreover, I never did anything at any page to try to avoid 3RR or do anything else untoward. We're certainly allowed to edit under our IPs, which I sometimes do a) when I forget to log in, and b) when I want to avoid the baggage and messages and requests for help etc. that often pile up when I log in at Tenebrae. None of the "Inappropriate uses of alternative accounts" at WP:SOCK apply.
- Gleeanon409 is behaving in a retaliatory manner, since an ANI against him here (see bottom of page) resulted in the affected page being blocked from editing because of his disruptive behavior. When I posted the requisite warning on his talk page, he erased it with a threat to me: [4].
- I have no idea if this retaliatory SOCK claim has anything to do with User:Berean Hunter blocking me for a year. But I have never heard of either thing until today, and I'd certainly welcome comments to see if this can be clared up. --Tenebrae (talk) 18:09, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
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Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
@Tenebrae: Please comment.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:58, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
- I anon-blocked the IP address with the instruction to use your account. I did not block your account and you would not be able to edit this page if I had.
- You have used both your IP address and your account to edit WP project space. Per WP:LOGOUT, "...using the session for the inappropriate uses of alternative accounts listed earlier in this policy." which leads to WP:PROJSOCK, "Editing project space". You should not be using the IP to edit project space.
- You have IP socked on an article before as you used your account to revert back to your IP edit.
- Then there was this edit followed by this which I believe that you requested oversight for? Not sure why you would request oversight but then make this edit and this edit both with summaries where you claim, "This is 65.78; I haven't felt like logging in, but I'm doing so now..." and you posted behind your IP a few days after that here.
— Berean Hunter (talk) 18:22, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks, Berean Hunter, I was planning on getting around to this today. Tenebrae, I have blocked you for two weeks. The only reason it isn’t indefinite is that you directly admitted it once. Since that admission however, you’ve edited in project space logged out and have ignored Bbb23’s request for an explanation, which amounts to avoiding scrutiny, which is prohibited by our policy on use of multiple accounts. BH has disabled logged out editing for a year on your IP, which is appropriate given the policy violations. Your edits here show your account isn’t impacted. After your two week block is up, you’re free to edit using your account. I’m closing this case now. TonyBallioni (talk) 18:34, 22 March 2020 (UTC)