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*Given the similarities pointed out by Stefka Bulgaria, plus some other specific quirks of diction and sentence phrasing I noticed, plus the fact that 31.2.155.95 and all the IPs mentioned in the archives all geolocate to the same location, it seems clear that this is block evasion. We've been around and around on this one several times, so any vestige of AGF has long been exhausted. Blocked and tagged the master. No point in doing anything with this specific IP. Closing. -- [[User:RoySmith|RoySmith]] [[User Talk:RoySmith|(talk)]] 00:17, 1 July 2020 (UTC) |
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Kazemita1
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03 June 2020
– This SPI case is closed and will be archived shortly by an SPI clerk or checkuser.
Suspected sockpuppets
- 31.2.155.95 (talk · · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
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SpinningSpark recently closed a RfC on the MEK page, concluding that certain statements shouldn't be included on that page. This prompted IP 31.2.155.95 to question SpinningSpark's close (on SpinningSpark's talk page), with Kazemita1 piling on the IP's objection shortly after (saying "Follow up on the IP's question..."
). It is fairly evident that both the IP and Kazemita1 are the same user trying to come across as if the objections were coming from two different users; the first clue is in the way they both use "--"
to sign their posts.
Kazemita1 has been sanctioned for using IPs as socks/meats in the past: first he was blocked (several times) for continued edit warring on the MEK page, and during his last block, used several different IPs to continue edit-warring on the MEK page while blocked, which led to a SPI that concluded with Kazemita1 being indefinitely blocked. Kazemita appealed his block a few times until it was eventually changed to 3 months. Kazemita1's first edit after his block expired was to continue edit-warring on a MEK-related page, which led to yet another report. After the report was deemed inconclusive because Kazemita had become absent from editing, Kazemita returned to editing the MEK page, this time stone-walling discussions there. All in all, this user has been given many chances to mend his ways, but continues to be disruptive and it looks like he's continuing to use IPs to make it look like they're different users. Stefka Bulgaria (talk) 08:32, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
- In that complaint:
- both the IP and Kazemita1 are signing with
"--"
- both the IP and Kazemita1 are complaining there was a lack of consensus to remove the given text
- both the IP and Kazemita1 are suggesting restoring to the “long-standing text”
- both IP and Kazemita1 use “the fact that”
- both IP and Kazemita1 use "your conclusion"
- both the IP and Kazemita1 are signing with
- The IP’s only edit consists of making this complaint. I find it hard to believe that a random IP user suddenly became interested in that RfC, specially considering Kazemita1’s edit-warring/meat puppetry history there. Stefka Bulgaria (talk) 17:29, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
- Having a closer look at this, the behavioural evidence here is identical to the previous SPI (in which Kazemita1 self-admitted to sockpuppeting through different IPs while blocked): an IP posing as a different user makes a single edit in support of Kazemita1's edits. Stefka Bulgaria (talk) 14:39, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
Comments by other users
Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.
- I have been abiding the law ever since my block was over and I did not edit English Wikipedia during the block period neither with IP nor with any other means. I advise everyone to take part in the discussions in the talk page rather than appealing to wiki-lawyering methods.--Kazemita1 (talk) 10:00, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
- Kazemita1: here's your own statement saying you "admit it was inappropriate for me to edit using IPs while on block", so you have used IPs during your block period in the past. As you well should know, it's also not ok to use IPs pretending to be someone else while you're not blocked, which is what this SPI is about. Stefka Bulgaria (talk) 11:16, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
- Stop playing with words. You know very well that I was talking about my 3 month block period in the above post.--Kazemita1 (talk) 14:54, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
- Kazemita1: We are not discussing what you did during your last 3 month block period, we are discussing the complaints that were made on SpinningSpark's talk page a couple of days ago where an IP and yourself (suggesting to be a different user) are making very similar objections against a closed RfC. Stefka Bulgaria (talk) 11:05, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
- "Please read my earlier comments."--Kazemita1 (talk) 08:27, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
- I have; and that still doesn't explain the similarities between the IP's edit and your own. Stefka Bulgaria (talk) 14:45, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
- "Please read my earlier comments."--Kazemita1 (talk) 08:27, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
- Kazemita1: We are not discussing what you did during your last 3 month block period, we are discussing the complaints that were made on SpinningSpark's talk page a couple of days ago where an IP and yourself (suggesting to be a different user) are making very similar objections against a closed RfC. Stefka Bulgaria (talk) 11:05, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
- Stop playing with words. You know very well that I was talking about my 3 month block period in the above post.--Kazemita1 (talk) 14:54, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
- Kazemita1: here's your own statement saying you "admit it was inappropriate for me to edit using IPs while on block", so you have used IPs during your block period in the past. As you well should know, it's also not ok to use IPs pretending to be someone else while you're not blocked, which is what this SPI is about. Stefka Bulgaria (talk) 11:16, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
- Given the similarities pointed out by Stefka Bulgaria, plus some other specific quirks of diction and sentence phrasing I noticed, plus the fact that 31.2.155.95 and all the IPs mentioned in the archives all geolocate to the same location, it seems clear that this is block evasion. We've been around and around on this one several times, so any vestige of AGF has long been exhausted. Blocked and tagged the master. No point in doing anything with this specific IP. Closing. -- RoySmith (talk) 00:17, 1 July 2020 (UTC)