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=== 21 July 2023=== |
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'''Elifanta23''' |
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*Newly made account exhibiting very similiar editing patterns as {{noping|Ralx888}} by following CanadianSingh1469 around. [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Battle_of_Manakpur&diff=prev&oldid=1166408409] |
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* Mimicking my actions just to frustrate the encyclopedia [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Battle_of_Manakpur&diff=prev&oldid=1166409301]- [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Battle_of_Manakpur&diff=prev&oldid=1166390452]-[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Battle_of_Manakpur&diff=prev&oldid=1166347197] |
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'''Jaagit''' |
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*Very first edit is a SPI against me. The user subsequently claimed that he was {{noping|Bane143}} in his unblock request, an obvious lie given that Bane143 has not edited in 1.5 years, and there is no indication whatsoever that Bane143's editing behaviour or ideology aligns with the nature of the SPI. The apalling and egregious deception is something HaughtonBrit is notorious for. The SPI is also structured and worded much like my April 15 SPI on him [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/HaughtonBrit/Archive#15_April_2023]. |
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'''Supmananger''' |
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*User page is the exact same as Canon8's. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Supmananger]-[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Canon8&oldid=1041099296]. |
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* Refiles the SPI on me immediately after it was closed [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Suthasianhistorian8&diff=prev&oldid=1166533669] |
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*Edits the same page I was editing not too long- something HaughtonBrit has a fixation on doing [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hinduism_and_Sikhism&diff=prev&oldid=1166010928]. |
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[[User:Suthasianhistorian8|Southasianhistorian8]] ([[User talk:Suthasianhistorian8|talk]]) 10:53, 21 July 2023 (UTC) |
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User [[User talk:Mian Singh|Mian Singh]] was banned in June for disruptively editing articles, specifically by making controversial and undiscussed page moves to new titles. I noticed another account behaving in a similar pattern. Both accounts focus on Sikhism-related articles and have the same habit of moving these articles to new names without any attempt at building or establishing consensus for these moves. It is very suspicious that this [[User talk:Khidrana Singh|Khidrana Singh]] account popped up a month after the Mian Singh account was indef. banned. |
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This is all lie and Suthasianhistorian8 is purposely tying my account to some sock account to block me so that he can continue to revert changes. From his history it also looks like I am not the only one he has done it to. I see that this user ties any account who edits Sikh related pages to HaughtonBrit account. If you look at the history of this user, there are more edits in concern to HaughtonBrit.[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Suthasianhistorian8]. I also see that this user had a history of sock-puppetry. |
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Any admin is welcome to check my account. [[User:Elifanta23|Elifanta23]] ([[User talk:Elifanta23|talk]]) 11:26, 21 July 2023 (UTC) |
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Please see these diffs: |
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* '''Comment by Sirfurboy''' - I filed a duplicate request, sorry. Did not notice this one was open. Copying what I have there, but please note that I believe there is evidence that CanadianSingh1469 may also be a sock, and should be included in the SPI. What I wrote: |
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User's first day editing in mainspace, and they post this suspicious keep in an increasingly controversial AfD [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AArticles_for_deletion%2FBattle_of_Manakpur&diff=1166408409&oldid=1166392731]. They also struck an IPs comments and then struck them again, after being reverted. The editor reverting them left this edsum: [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AArticles_for_deletion%2FBattle_of_Manakpur&diff=1166409472&oldid=1166409301]. On checking SPI history I found this case for CanadianSingh1469 [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/CanadianSingh1469/Archive]. The result of that surprises me as it appears there was already strong suspicion that CanadianSingh1469 was part of a sockfarm. Now we have them defending a page that appears to have no good sources that they created, and what is clearly the sock of ''someone'' coming in to !vote keep, per CanadianSingh1469. Elifanta23 passes a {{Duck}} duck test. CanadianSingh1469 and the editing behaviour support a view these are related to Ralx888 and thus to the sockfarm. [[User:Sirfurboy|Sirfurboy🏄]] ([[User talk:Sirfurboy|talk]]) |
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* Admins, please do check my account and once cleared please close these bogus requests.[[User:Elifanta23|Elifanta23]] ([[User talk:Elifanta23|talk]]) 12:12, 21 July 2023 (UTC) |
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Mian Singh account: [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Khalsa&diff=prev&oldid=1157448489], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Krishna&diff=prev&oldid=1159108621], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Krishna&diff=prev&oldid=1159109329], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_battles_involving_the_Sikh_Empire&diff=prev&oldid=1159322974] |
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Khidrana Singh account: [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bhupinder_Singh_of_Patiala&diff=prev&oldid=1164479980], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dogra%E2%80%93Tibetan_War&diff=prev&oldid=1164618800], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Naina_Singh_Sidhu&diff=prev&oldid=1165825188], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Prehlad_Singh&diff=prev&oldid=1165825457], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Chet_Singh_Brar&diff=prev&oldid=1165825627], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sahib_Singh_Kaladhari&diff=prev&oldid=1165825499], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Santa_Singh_Arora&diff=prev&oldid=1165825748] |
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Further proof these accounts are operated by the same person can be found in the sandboxes of these users. Both users maintain extremely large sandboxes trying to cover anti-Sikh violence throughout India in 1984: |
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Mian Singh: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mian_Singh/sandbox#Violence] |
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Khidrana Singh: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Khidrana_Singh/sandbox] |
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{{sock list|1=Elifanta23|2=CanadianSingh1469|tools_link=yes}}<!-- Add more accounts or IPs to this template as needed --> |
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User's first day editing in mainspace, and they post this suspicious keep in an increasingly controversial AfD [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AArticles_for_deletion%2FBattle_of_Manakpur&diff=1166408409&oldid=1166392731]. They also struck an IPs comments and then struck them again, after being reverted. The editor reverting them left this edsum: [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AArticles_for_deletion%2FBattle_of_Manakpur&diff=1166409472&oldid=1166409301]. On checking SPI history I found this case for CanadianSingh1469 [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/CanadianSingh1469/Archive]. The result of that surprises me as it appears there was already strong suspicion that CanadianSingh1469 was part of a sockfarm. Now we have them defending a page that appears to have no good sources that they created, and what is clearly the sock of ''someone'' coming in to !vote keep, per CanadianSingh1469. Elifanta23 passes a {{Duck}} duck test. CanadianSingh1469 and the editing behaviour support a view these are related to Ralx888 and thus to the sockfarm. [[User:Sirfurboy|Sirfurboy🏄]] ([[User talk:Sirfurboy|talk]]) 11:49, 21 July 2023 (UTC) |
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I am convinced these are the same person and I hope this can be confirmed and if indeed true, appropriate action may be taken before they cause further damage to the project. [[User:ThethPunjabi|ThethPunjabi]] ([[User talk:ThethPunjabi|talk]]) 03:37, 22 July 2023 (UTC) |
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:<small>''Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See [[Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/SPI/Guidance#Defending yourself against claims|Defending yourself against claims]].''</small> |
:<small>''Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See [[Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/SPI/Guidance#Defending yourself against claims|Defending yourself against claims]].''</small> |
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I understand this SPI but in all honesty, I don't think CanadianSingh1469 is socking or part of any sockfarm. He was cleared of any suspicion in his SPI investigation. This is 99.99% just HaughtonBrit just up to his odd antics again. [[User:Suthasianhistorian8|Southasianhistorian8]] ([[User talk:Suthasianhistorian8|talk]]) 11:53, 21 July 2023 (UTC) |
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:Thank you. I am not familiar with the sock, so yes, maybe this is the sock deliberately following CanadianSingh1469 around and causing mischief. However, looking at the SPI case I found, I don't see that CanadianSingh1469 was cleared. It looked like there was a block and no further action was taken. Maybe I have misunderstood - I don't come here very often so am not an expert on SPI. I wonder if {{U|Black Kite}} is around and could give an opinion, being an admin involved in that case. [[User:Sirfurboy|Sirfurboy🏄]] ([[User talk:Sirfurboy|talk]]) 12:03, 21 July 2023 (UTC) |
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::No action was taken as I was cleared in the SPI. I was not blocked over the SPI. [[User:CanadianSingh1469|CanadianSingh1469]] ([[User talk:CanadianSingh1469|talk]]) 18:57, 21 July 2023 (UTC) |
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::I think by checking my early edit history, and my writing style it would be clear that I am not a sockpuppet. [[User:CanadianSingh1469|CanadianSingh1469]] ([[User talk:CanadianSingh1469|talk]]) 19:03, 21 July 2023 (UTC) |
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:::I agree unequivocally that CS1469 is not part of any sock/meat farm. [[User:Suthasianhistorian8|Southasianhistorian8]] ([[User talk:Suthasianhistorian8|talk]]) 19:29, 21 July 2023 (UTC) |
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::::Happy to '''withdraw''' my SPI in favour of Southasianhistorian8's above, and thus drop CanadianSingh1469 from the investigation. Apologies to CanadianSingh1469 for my misreading of the history. [[User:Sirfurboy|Sirfurboy🏄]] ([[User talk:Sirfurboy|talk]]) 19:37, 21 July 2023 (UTC) |
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::::Thanks @[[User:Suthasianhistorian8|Suthasianhistorian8]] for raising your opinion :) [[User:CanadianSingh1469|CanadianSingh1469]] ([[User talk:CanadianSingh1469|talk]]) 19:58, 21 July 2023 (UTC) |
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* '''Comment by CanadianSingh1469''' - I am not in any sockfarm or anything. I would like to point out that if I were using socks wouldn’t I be actively participating in my original sock puppet investigation as Ralx888 was. I didn’t make a single comment on it because I didn’t know about it. I only found out about it after it closed. When Ralx888 was in a dispute in the [[Insurgency in Punjab, India]] page I made maybe one comment and that was after everything died out. [[User:CanadianSingh1469|CanadianSingh1469]] ([[User talk:CanadianSingh1469|talk]]) 18:55, 21 July 2023 (UTC) |
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* I have mentioned before that my account is not sock of any account and this is just like before an attempt to shutdown editors who disagree or could be challenge. Admins, please do check my account and once cleared please close these bogus requests.[[User:Elifanta23|Elifanta23]] ([[User talk:Elifanta23|talk]]) 12:11, 21 July 2023 (UTC) |
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*{{Clerk Request}} - Looks like this is [[Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/HaughtonBrit]]. [[User:Dreamy Jazz|Dreamy <i style="color:#d00">'''Jazz'''</i>]] <sup>''[[User talk:Dreamy Jazz|talk to me]]'' | ''[[Special:Contribs/Dreamy Jazz|my contributions]]''</sup> 15:21, 22 July 2023 (UTC) |
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Revision as of 12:00, 23 July 2023
HaughtonBrit
- HaughtonBrit (talk · · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
21 July 2023
– A user has requested CheckUser. An SPI clerk will shortly look at the case and endorse or decline the request.
Suspected sockpuppets
- Elifanta23 (talk · · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Jaagit (talk · · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Supmananger (talk · · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Tools: Editor interaction utility • Interaction Timeline • SPI Tools
Elifanta23
- Newly made account exhibiting very similiar editing patterns as Ralx888 by following CanadianSingh1469 around. [1]
- Mimicking my actions just to frustrate the encyclopedia [2]- [3]-[4]
Jaagit
- Very first edit is a SPI against me. The user subsequently claimed that he was Bane143 in his unblock request, an obvious lie given that Bane143 has not edited in 1.5 years, and there is no indication whatsoever that Bane143's editing behaviour or ideology aligns with the nature of the SPI. The apalling and egregious deception is something HaughtonBrit is notorious for. The SPI is also structured and worded much like my April 15 SPI on him [5].
Supmananger
- User page is the exact same as Canon8's. [6]-[7].
- Refiles the SPI on me immediately after it was closed [8]
- Edits the same page I was editing not too long- something HaughtonBrit has a fixation on doing [9].
Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 10:53, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
Comments by other users
Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims. This is all lie and Suthasianhistorian8 is purposely tying my account to some sock account to block me so that he can continue to revert changes. From his history it also looks like I am not the only one he has done it to. I see that this user ties any account who edits Sikh related pages to HaughtonBrit account. If you look at the history of this user, there are more edits in concern to HaughtonBrit.[10]. I also see that this user had a history of sock-puppetry.
Any admin is welcome to check my account. Elifanta23 (talk) 11:26, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
- Comment by Sirfurboy - I filed a duplicate request, sorry. Did not notice this one was open. Copying what I have there, but please note that I believe there is evidence that CanadianSingh1469 may also be a sock, and should be included in the SPI. What I wrote:
User's first day editing in mainspace, and they post this suspicious keep in an increasingly controversial AfD [11]. They also struck an IPs comments and then struck them again, after being reverted. The editor reverting them left this edsum: [12]. On checking SPI history I found this case for CanadianSingh1469 [13]. The result of that surprises me as it appears there was already strong suspicion that CanadianSingh1469 was part of a sockfarm. Now we have them defending a page that appears to have no good sources that they created, and what is clearly the sock of someone coming in to !vote keep, per CanadianSingh1469. Elifanta23 passes a Looks like a duck to me duck test. CanadianSingh1469 and the editing behaviour support a view these are related to Ralx888 and thus to the sockfarm. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk)
- Admins, please do check my account and once cleared please close these bogus requests.Elifanta23 (talk) 12:12, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
21 July 2023
– A user has requested CheckUser. An SPI clerk will shortly look at the case and endorse or decline the request.
Suspected sockpuppets
- Elifanta23 (talk · · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- CanadianSingh1469 (talk · · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Tools: Editor interaction utility • Interaction Timeline • SPI Tools
User's first day editing in mainspace, and they post this suspicious keep in an increasingly controversial AfD [14]. They also struck an IPs comments and then struck them again, after being reverted. The editor reverting them left this edsum: [15]. On checking SPI history I found this case for CanadianSingh1469 [16]. The result of that surprises me as it appears there was already strong suspicion that CanadianSingh1469 was part of a sockfarm. Now we have them defending a page that appears to have no good sources that they created, and what is clearly the sock of someone coming in to !vote keep, per CanadianSingh1469. Elifanta23 passes a Looks like a duck to me duck test. CanadianSingh1469 and the editing behaviour support a view these are related to Ralx888 and thus to the sockfarm. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 11:49, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
Comments by other users
- Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.
I understand this SPI but in all honesty, I don't think CanadianSingh1469 is socking or part of any sockfarm. He was cleared of any suspicion in his SPI investigation. This is 99.99% just HaughtonBrit just up to his odd antics again. Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 11:53, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you. I am not familiar with the sock, so yes, maybe this is the sock deliberately following CanadianSingh1469 around and causing mischief. However, looking at the SPI case I found, I don't see that CanadianSingh1469 was cleared. It looked like there was a block and no further action was taken. Maybe I have misunderstood - I don't come here very often so am not an expert on SPI. I wonder if Black Kite is around and could give an opinion, being an admin involved in that case. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 12:03, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
- No action was taken as I was cleared in the SPI. I was not blocked over the SPI. CanadianSingh1469 (talk) 18:57, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
- I think by checking my early edit history, and my writing style it would be clear that I am not a sockpuppet. CanadianSingh1469 (talk) 19:03, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
- I agree unequivocally that CS1469 is not part of any sock/meat farm. Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 19:29, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
- Happy to withdraw my SPI in favour of Southasianhistorian8's above, and thus drop CanadianSingh1469 from the investigation. Apologies to CanadianSingh1469 for my misreading of the history. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 19:37, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks @Suthasianhistorian8 for raising your opinion :) CanadianSingh1469 (talk) 19:58, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
- I agree unequivocally that CS1469 is not part of any sock/meat farm. Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 19:29, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
- Comment by CanadianSingh1469 - I am not in any sockfarm or anything. I would like to point out that if I were using socks wouldn’t I be actively participating in my original sock puppet investigation as Ralx888 was. I didn’t make a single comment on it because I didn’t know about it. I only found out about it after it closed. When Ralx888 was in a dispute in the Insurgency in Punjab, India page I made maybe one comment and that was after everything died out. CanadianSingh1469 (talk) 18:55, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
- I have mentioned before that my account is not sock of any account and this is just like before an attempt to shutdown editors who disagree or could be challenge. Admins, please do check my account and once cleared please close these bogus requests.Elifanta23 (talk) 12:11, 21 July 2023 (UTC)