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*"i.e."[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Rape_in_India&diff=prev&oldid=654043315][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:City_Harvest_Church&diff=prev&oldid=471466558][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Concerns_and_controversies_over_the_2010_Commonwealth_Games&diff=prev&oldid=390218264] |
*"i.e."[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Rape_in_India&diff=prev&oldid=654043315][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:City_Harvest_Church&diff=prev&oldid=471466558][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Concerns_and_controversies_over_the_2010_Commonwealth_Games&diff=prev&oldid=390218264] |
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*"for the sake of"[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Rape_in_India&diff=prev&oldid=651723506][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Rape_in_India&diff=prev&oldid=654038969] |
*"for the sake of"[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Rape_in_India&diff=prev&oldid=651723506][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Rape_in_India&diff=prev&oldid=654038969] |
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*"I am comfortable with"[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Rape_in_India&diff=prev&oldid=654024702][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=653688971] |
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*Treats 'talk' as a proper noun.[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=654022277&oldid=654022214](twice)[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rape_in_India&diff=prev&oldid=651273178][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lee_Hsien_Loong&diff=prev&oldid=566557550][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=S._Truett_Cathy&diff=prev&oldid=625700970] |
*Treats 'talk' as a proper noun.[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=654022277&oldid=654022214](twice)[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rape_in_India&diff=prev&oldid=651273178][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lee_Hsien_Loong&diff=prev&oldid=566557550][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=S._Truett_Cathy&diff=prev&oldid=625700970] |
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*Needlessly types words in upper case.[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Rape_in_India&diff=prev&oldid=654038969](ALWAYS) [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Rape_in_India&diff=prev&oldid=650037580](PLEASE) |
*Needlessly types words in upper case.[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Rape_in_India&diff=prev&oldid=654038969](ALWAYS) [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Rape_in_India&diff=prev&oldid=650037580](PLEASE) |
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*"revert to old"[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ip_Man_2&diff=prev&oldid=542510141][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rape_in_India&diff=653994024&oldid=653989499] |
*"revert to old"[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ip_Man_2&diff=prev&oldid=542510141][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rape_in_India&diff=653994024&oldid=653989499] |
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⚫ | *edit summaries involve "clarification"[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Empowerment&diff=prev&oldid=653999047][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Najib_Razak&diff=prev&oldid=322865164][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Women_in_India&diff=prev&oldid=653998642][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Death_of_Shane_Todd&diff=prev&oldid=556149226][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:City_Harvest_Church&diff=prev&oldid=355472545] |
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*"lead paragraph"[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Oliver_Fricker&diff=prev&oldid=397441038][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Infant_mortality&diff=prev&oldid=653998365] |
*"lead paragraph"[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Oliver_Fricker&diff=prev&oldid=397441038][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Infant_mortality&diff=prev&oldid=653998365] |
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*"big problem"[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=439183206][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Rape_in_India&diff=prev&oldid=654034660] |
*"big problem"[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=439183206][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Rape_in_India&diff=prev&oldid=654034660] |
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*"Wow"[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:SGpedians%27_notice_board&diff=prev&oldid=654094389][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Rape_in_India&diff=prev&oldid=654428501] |
*"Wow"[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:SGpedians%27_notice_board&diff=prev&oldid=654094389][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Rape_in_India&diff=prev&oldid=654428501] |
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*Resume a point with "In addition"[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Rape_in_India&diff=prev&oldid=654043315][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Najib_Razak&diff=prev&oldid=329426719][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Ho_Ching&diff=478513704&oldid=392001002] |
*Resume a point with "In addition"[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Rape_in_India&diff=prev&oldid=654043315][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Najib_Razak&diff=prev&oldid=329426719][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Ho_Ching&diff=478513704&oldid=392001002] |
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⚫ | *edit summaries involve "clarification"[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Empowerment&diff=prev&oldid=653999047][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Najib_Razak&diff=prev&oldid=322865164][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Women_in_India&diff=prev&oldid=653998642][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Death_of_Shane_Todd&diff=prev&oldid=556149226][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:City_Harvest_Church&diff=prev&oldid=355472545] |
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I agree that Bargolous has made really long messages,[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Rape_in_India&diff=prev&oldid=654034660][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Rape_in_India&diff=prev&oldid=654005552] but this same kind of [[WP:TLDR]] is also found in the messages of Zhanzhao.[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Singaporean_general_election,_2011&diff=443488771&oldid=443441356][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Lee_Kuan_Yew&diff=prev&oldid=654255562][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Singaporean_general_election,_2011&diff=443656010&oldid=443622121] |
I agree that Bargolous has made really long messages,[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Rape_in_India&diff=prev&oldid=654034660][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Rape_in_India&diff=prev&oldid=654005552] but this same kind of [[WP:TLDR]] is also found in the messages of Zhanzhao.[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Singaporean_general_election,_2011&diff=443488771&oldid=443441356][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Lee_Kuan_Yew&diff=prev&oldid=654255562][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Singaporean_general_election,_2011&diff=443656010&oldid=443622121] |
Revision as of 20:04, 2 April 2015
Bargolus
- Bargolus (talk · · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
2 April 2015
- Suspected sockpuppets
- Zhanzhao (talk · · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
Before starting, keep this self agreed topic ban in mind,[1] exemptions include SPIs, maybe because they believe that my accusations might be correct.
First we have to know the background. Some history of sock puppetry by Zhanzhao is preserved at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Zhanzhao/Archive, 2 sock waves have been reported. 1st one is from 5 March, 2nd one is from 22-23 March. This is the 3rd one, from 29 March and it is still going on.
A few hours later, when Zhanzhao took wikibreak,[2] sock-wave took place on this article, Rape in India.[3][4][5][6][7][8] Despite Zhanzhao had claimed to have taken wikibreak, he continued to participate on the talk page and seeking protection of his preferred version,[9] that he never objected and before an editor would online and remove the specific content.[10]
After the protection was made against that version, an account, Bargolus, that had only 2 edits, and both from September 2007,[11] turned it into autoconfirmed user and resumed the previous[12] edit war with this account.[13][14]
Bargolus claimed that he was 49.244.254.146,[15] he edited the comment of 49.244... as well, and soon he edited own comment with 124.41.243.167.[16] 49.244 is a highly abused extension by multiple sockmasters, as per the complaints that have been made at User talk:Ponyo#49.244.239.31
I understand that DoRD had said last time that he wants to see edits and not just edit summary. We will start with the edits.
Zhanzhao, always rigid about giving undue weight to "unreported rapes", himself said stuff like, "I'll still add a one liner about many of the rape being unreported though."[17] These edits[18][19][20] clearly fulfills that criteria. They largely replicate previous scenario of Confirmed sock puppetry.[21][22][[23][24] Zhanzhao had also said "already one section dedicated to the issue of unreported rape.(doh). We could just take that whole para in the lead out."[25]
- In his comments, he directly states his opposition towards these limited phrases and sentences that are found on this article.
- Both accounts specifically objected the sentence, "reported rapes in India are among the lowest in the world"[26][27]
- Zhanzhao had said "it would be necessary to add a disclaimer there too to justify its ranking among the lowest", with this contribution Bargolus wrote "and India has been characterized by some as one of the countries with the lowest per capita rates for rape", "Criminologists have warned that comparing reported rape rates across countries can be highly misleading due to the significance of underreporting, and the fact that the rate of underreporting can be vastly different between countries."
- Now that's clear attempt to fulfill the said criteria and marginalization of a international fact.
- Bargolus pushes "link to a WSJ article"[31]
- Bargolus says "the article is about Rape in India".[32]
- This one might be little hard, though still workable.
- An IP came out from nowhere, and made these 2 edits[36][37] Soon, this statement was straightened by Zhanzhao[38](no summary though he usually provides, similar referencing style)[39]
- This statement happened to have been removed by somebody during some edit. After page was protected, Bargolus would claim the "lack of criminalization of marital rape",[40] and " Finally, marital rape is not a crime in India and so marital rapes are not even registered in the crime statistics of India". Thus promoting the above edit of Zhanzhao,[41] that read "Marital rape, which accounts for 94% of all rape committed in India is also not considered a criminal act there."
- Uselessly provokes the "tourism" matter.
Some of the uncommon similarities counts:
- "fleshed out",[44][45]
- "eye to eye"[46] "eye-to-eye",[47]
- Attempt to create wikilink([[ ]]) of URLs.([[http://www.example.com/example]])[48] like Zhanzhao.[49][50][51][52]
- Starting messages with "Hi there,"[53][54][55]
- "the implications of"[56][57]
- Ordering viewpoints in the following order;[58][59][[60]
- 1)
- 2)
- 3)
- Usage of {{ping|(username)}} template[61][62]
- "i.e."[63][64][65]
- "for the sake of"[66][67]
- "I am comfortable with"[68][69]
- Treats 'talk' as a proper noun.[70](twice)[71][72][73]
- Needlessly types words in upper case.[74](ALWAYS) [75](PLEASE)
- "revert to old"[76][77]
- "lead paragraph"[78][79]
- "big problem"[80][81]
- "Wow"[82][83]
- Resume a point with "In addition"[84][85][86]
- edit summaries involve "clarification"[87][88][89][90][91]
I agree that Bargolous has made really long messages,[92][93] but this same kind of WP:TLDR is also found in the messages of Zhanzhao.[94][95][96]
- Check [97] he had bold the text "Or, we can just write that LKY is..(continued)", same way he bold "Argument for grammatical change" at [98]
Both have made those edits that required rev-del due to the exposure of personal information.[99][100] They may have differed, but still personal. Bargolus edited my sandbox,[101] that had been already criticized by Zhanzhao.
Editor who work on this articles know that he is misrepresenting sources.[102][103] Including me.[104]
Same sort of surprising but temporary IP switching and tag-team edit warring was also seen on Women in India, account[105], IP[106], another IP.[107]
I could not post about this all, anywhere else except this SPI per the restrictions. Problem is ongoing for nearly a month now. I am requesting RegentsPark, EdJohnston, Mike V, to share their views on this SPI, not only because we've worked on previous SPIs before, but also because we know that how much these areas are affected by socks.
Also consider declining the CU, because this sort of edit warring and IP switching on these articles and given mostly negative CU results from last time, CU is not going to be any help. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 19:16, 2 April 2015 (UTC)