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:::At the bottom of your [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/5.43.173.12 contributions page] there's a very clear link to pages such as [https://whatismyipaddress.com/ip/5.43.173.12 this], which does indicate you are (like the sockpuppeteer and some of his known IPs) from Zagreb, Croatia. [[User:RandomCanadian|RandomCanadian]] ([[User talk:RandomCanadian|talk]] / [[Special:Contributions/RandomCanadian|contribs]]) 22:28, 14 June 2020 (UTC) |
:::At the bottom of your [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/5.43.173.12 contributions page] there's a very clear link to pages such as [https://whatismyipaddress.com/ip/5.43.173.12 this], which does indicate you are (like the sockpuppeteer and some of his known IPs) from Zagreb, Croatia. [[User:RandomCanadian|RandomCanadian]] ([[User talk:RandomCanadian|talk]] / [[Special:Contributions/RandomCanadian|contribs]]) 22:28, 14 June 2020 (UTC) |
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::::Whether is it possible or not, I find it very uncomfortable that someone is actually publicly revealing it to others. I may make an account and If I forget to login then I should also expect that my location is publicly revealed? [[Special:Contributions/5.43.173.12|5.43.173.12]] ([[User talk:5.43.173.12|talk]]) 22:43, 14 June 2020 (UTC) |
::::Whether is it possible or not, I find it very uncomfortable that someone is actually publicly revealing it to others. I may make an account and If I forget to login then I should also expect that my location is publicly revealed? [[Special:Contributions/5.43.173.12|5.43.173.12]] ([[User talk:5.43.173.12|talk]]) 22:43, 14 June 2020 (UTC) |
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{{ping|TonyBallioni}}. This user: {{ping|Binksternet}} who was yesterday revealing my geo-location is now deleting my posts [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Leopold_Ru%C5%BEi%C4%8Dka&diff=prev&oldid=962700564],[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Nikola_Tesla/Nationality_and_ethnicity&diff=962700649&oldid=962697069],[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Nikola_Tesla/Nationality_and_ethnicity&diff=962700703&oldid=962700649]. [[Special:Contributions/89.201.200.208|89.201.200.208]] ([[User talk:89.201.200.208|talk]]) 15:15, 15 June 2020 (UTC) |
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Asdisis
- Asdisis (talk · · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
14 June 2020
– This SPI case is closed and will be archived shortly by an SPI clerk or checkuser.
Suspected sockpuppets
- Notrium (talk · · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Theonewithreason (talk · · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Bilseric (talk · · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Oel0302 (talk · · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Tools: Editor interaction utility • Interaction Timeline • User compare report Auto-generated every hour.
See the full list of IPs at the relevant talk page. In short, similar POV pushing and non-adherence to talk page guidelines of the kind that led to the relevant article being listed at WP:LAME. A lot of these accounts made relatively few edits, and then suddenly converge on the talk page and the subsequent RfC to make the very same arguments. The IP I list (out of all the others) has a very similar WP:BLUDGEON style to User:Notrium. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 19:50, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
Comments by other users
Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.
Seriously, @RandomCanadian:? You request CU investigation of everyone who disagrees with you on the RfC, and is not also an admin? That's plainly abuse. Notrium (talk) 20:30, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
- Some of those accounts haven't even participated in the RfC, or have also participated in other discussion than the RfC, FWIW, they're just quacking very suspiciously like you. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 20:33, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
RandomCanadian, how about you actually try to present arguments in your favor, instead of banning difference of opinion? Do you really think it's realistic that one person in socking for 5 years, now as 5 different persons? 5.43.173.12 (talk) 21:32, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
- And how did you, whose first edit is just half an hour ago, suddenly notice this? Notrium: If this is you logged out, you're not helping your case... As for arguments in favour; making the very same kind of comments at an RfC as a known sockpuppeteer is evidence enough in my opinion., and the first edits of some of these accounts being to talk pages of users involved in this while they didn't previously edit there is also a very clear sign there's something amiss... In any case, WP:AGF is not a suicide pact and I don't think there's a valid reason to extend it too long in a situation like this. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 21:36, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
- @RandomCanadian: "And how did you, whose first edit is just half an hour ago" - obviously she/he is that reasonable IP from the RfC, but on a different IP now. That's how Internet works. Notrium (talk) 21:43, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
- That was plainly obvious who I am, but not that it matters. RandomCanadian, you can't go naming 5 people as socks without any argument like this, just listing them, seemingly based on the sole reason that they disagree with you. You have to provide an example of irregular behavior which mirrors the one of the Sock. 5.43.173.12 (talk) 21:55, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
- @RandomCanadian: and, you really have some nerve to mention WP:AGF after calling for a CheckUser investigation of everybody who disagreed with you. Notrium (talk) 21:45, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
- Because you named me in this SPI (I'm the 89...). I guess you recognize socks only when they disagree with you. Also, maybe you should provide diffs when making claims like "making the very same kind of comments at an RfC as a known sockpuppeteer". 5.43.173.12 (talk) 21:47, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
- Oddly enough you're wrong since some of the above actually vote no; but since diffs were asked for: eg looking at the relevant histories Bilseric is an SPA who has only edited the Nikola Tesla ethnicity talk page or other topics very closely related to the Serb/Croat conflict; Oel0302's very first edit was to remove an ethnicity here as per the same arguments you and Notrium (if you're not the same person) have been making... (and then recently he made a very lame request that Tesla was actually Croatian on the same TP...) And Theonewithreason has also only SPA'd at Tesla's page and at involved editors talk pages. In short, they're all editors with little involvement elsewhere... Oh, and, both you and Notrium have shown a consistent tendency towards WP:BADGER both at the RfC and here and every elsewhere you engage in a discussion so that leads me to think you're in fact one and the same. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 22:00, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
- Oh, and the significant proportion of IP edits also matches the pattern of previous sockpuppeting attempts. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 22:03, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
- Ok, let's leave it for admins. I don't recall I made a request that Tesla was actually Croatian though. And I really can't control what others write, or whether it is similar to what I write or not. I admit I have engaged in pointless discussions with you. 5.43.173.12 (talk) 22:15, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
- Oh, and the significant proportion of IP edits also matches the pattern of previous sockpuppeting attempts. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 22:03, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
- Oddly enough you're wrong since some of the above actually vote no; but since diffs were asked for: eg looking at the relevant histories Bilseric is an SPA who has only edited the Nikola Tesla ethnicity talk page or other topics very closely related to the Serb/Croat conflict; Oel0302's very first edit was to remove an ethnicity here as per the same arguments you and Notrium (if you're not the same person) have been making... (and then recently he made a very lame request that Tesla was actually Croatian on the same TP...) And Theonewithreason has also only SPA'd at Tesla's page and at involved editors talk pages. In short, they're all editors with little involvement elsewhere... Oh, and, both you and Notrium have shown a consistent tendency towards WP:BADGER both at the RfC and here and every elsewhere you engage in a discussion so that leads me to think you're in fact one and the same. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 22:00, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
- @RandomCanadian: "And how did you, whose first edit is just half an hour ago" - obviously she/he is that reasonable IP from the RfC, but on a different IP now. That's how Internet works. Notrium (talk) 21:43, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
BDW, Admins, please. I don't feel comfortable that an editor is revealing my location in this discussion [1]. 5.43.173.12 (talk) 22:03, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
- Well, you're editing under an IP, so that's to be expected, since IPs can be geolocated... RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 22:04, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
- What? What could possibly be the reason to geolocate my location and then reveale it to everyone??? What does my location has to do with anything? Why is that to be expected?5.43.173.12 (talk) 22:20, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
- At the bottom of your contributions page there's a very clear link to pages such as this, which does indicate you are (like the sockpuppeteer and some of his known IPs) from Zagreb, Croatia. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 22:28, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
- Whether is it possible or not, I find it very uncomfortable that someone is actually publicly revealing it to others. I may make an account and If I forget to login then I should also expect that my location is publicly revealed? 5.43.173.12 (talk) 22:43, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
- At the bottom of your contributions page there's a very clear link to pages such as this, which does indicate you are (like the sockpuppeteer and some of his known IPs) from Zagreb, Croatia. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 22:28, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
- What? What could possibly be the reason to geolocate my location and then reveale it to everyone??? What does my location has to do with anything? Why is that to be expected?5.43.173.12 (talk) 22:20, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
- Don't see enough for a CU or block. Closing without action. Also noting that dynamic IPs acting like dynamic IPs is not socking. TonyBallioni (talk) 22:54, 14 June 2020 (UTC)