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#{{pagelinks|Assembly of the Community of Serbian municipalities}} |
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* [[Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard#Assembly_of_the_Community_of_Serbian_municipalities]] |
* [[Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard#Assembly_of_the_Community_of_Serbian_municipalities]] |
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* [[Talk:Assembly_of_the_Community_of_Serbian_municipalities#Recent_edits]] |
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* [[Talk:Community of Serbian municipalities, Kosovo#Recent_edits]] |
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* [[User_talk:Heracletus#The_new_Kosovo_Serb_assembly]] |
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* [[User_talk:Qwerty786#Assembly_of_the_Community_of_Municipalities_of_the_Autonomous_Province_of_Kosovo_and_Metohija]] |
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* [[Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Serbia#Association_of_Serbian_municipalities.2C_Kosovo_and_Assembly_of_the_Community_of_Serbian_municipalities]] |
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* [[Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Kosovo#Association_of_Serbian_municipalities.2C_Kosovo_and_Assembly_of_the_Community_of_Serbian_municipalities]] |
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* [[User_talk:Koavf#Association_of_Serbian_municipalities.2C_Kosovo_and_Assembly_of_the_Community_of_Serbian_municipalities]] |
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* [[User_talk:Zoupan#Assembly_of_the_Community_of_Serbian_municipalities_and_Community_of_Serbian_municipalities.2C_Kosovo]] |
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==== Issues to be mediated ==== |
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# What is the relation between the Community of Serbian municipalities in Kosovo formed in 2008, after elections organised by Serbia, with the Community of Serb-majority municipalities in Kosovo, which will be formed from the 2013 municipal elections organised by Kosovo authorities? |
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#How should the organization from 2008 be handled with the organization that is forming in the next few months? |
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# How should this relation be represented in the relevant articles? |
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#How should the nationalistic and conduct issues regarding this organization be handled, especially with respect to [[WP:ARBMAC]]? |
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* The filling party, [[User:Hasteur]], filled this request, trying to make it into a conduct review, and potentially cause sanctions by involving the Arbitration Committee, even though this had nothing to do with the reasons for which we had sought dispute resolution or the articles involved, or their content, or even our conduct in them. After filling this request, he/she tried to disengage himself/herself from this process, stating he/she is not involved in this, even though he filled this and tried to push it to be a mediation over his/her own grievances, contrary to what is stated here: "Formal mediation is only suitable for disputes over article content, so requests to mediate grievances with other editors will not be accepted." The relevant differences to prove this and related content are: [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3ARequests_for_mediation%2FAssembly_of_the_Community_of_Serbian_municipalities&diff=607226788&oldid=607218028], [[Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard#Assembly_of_the_Community_of_Serbian_municipalities]], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_mediation/Assembly_of_the_Community_of_Serbian_municipalities&oldid=607218028] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_mediation/Assembly_of_the_Community_of_Serbian_municipalities&diff=next&oldid=607226788]. This kind of conduct is highly disruptive and forced me to reformulate this request. [[User:Heracletus|Heracletus]] ([[User talk:Heracletus|talk]]) 01:14, 6 May 2014 (UTC) |
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# I agree. [[User:Heracletus|Heracletus]] ([[User talk:Heracletus|talk]]) 01:14, 6 May 2014 (UTC) |
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'''DRN Case manager's note''': This is a referral from DRN for failure to come to a solution due to conduct based issues. Indications were made at DRN that one (or more) of the parties to the case would not respect the outcome unless it was in their favor (or enforced by an Admin). [[User:Hasteur|Hasteur]] ([[User talk:Hasteur|talk]]) 18:32, 5 May 2014 (UTC) |
<s>'''DRN Case manager's note''': This is a referral from DRN for failure to come to a solution due to conduct based issues. Indications were made at DRN that one (or more) of the parties to the case would not respect the outcome unless it was in their favor (or enforced by an Admin). [[User:Hasteur|Hasteur]] ([[User talk:Hasteur|talk]]) 18:32, 5 May 2014 (UTC)</s> |
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:No party ever indicated such a thing in DRN or anywhere else. To prove this, one can check [[Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard#Assembly_of_the_Community_of_Serbian_municipalities]]. Furthermore, the issues which caused [[User:Hasteur]] to choose to close the dispute resolution thread on DRN had nothing to do with the dispute, and all to do with what he/she perceived as bad faith against certain volunteers, including himself. By claiming that any party would not respect the outcome unless it was in their favour, [[User:Hasteur]] once again tries to be disruptive towards the mediation he/she himself/herself filled a request for. [[User:Heracletus|Heracletus]] ([[User talk:Heracletus|talk]]) 01:14, 6 May 2014 (UTC) |
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Revision as of 01:14, 6 May 2014
Assembly of the Community of Serbian municipalities
- Editors involved in this dispute
- Heracletus (talk · contribs)
- Qwerty786 (talk · contribs)
- Articles affected by this dispute
- Assembly of the Community of Serbian municipalities (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Community of Serbian municipalities, Kosovo (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Kosovo Serb enclaves (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- North Kosovo (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Other attempts at resolving this dispute that you have attempted
- Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard#Assembly_of_the_Community_of_Serbian_municipalities
- Talk:Assembly_of_the_Community_of_Serbian_municipalities#Recent_edits
- Talk:Community of Serbian municipalities, Kosovo#Recent_edits
- User_talk:Heracletus#The_new_Kosovo_Serb_assembly
- User_talk:Qwerty786#Assembly_of_the_Community_of_Municipalities_of_the_Autonomous_Province_of_Kosovo_and_Metohija
- Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Serbia#Association_of_Serbian_municipalities.2C_Kosovo_and_Assembly_of_the_Community_of_Serbian_municipalities
- Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Kosovo#Association_of_Serbian_municipalities.2C_Kosovo_and_Assembly_of_the_Community_of_Serbian_municipalities
- User_talk:Koavf#Association_of_Serbian_municipalities.2C_Kosovo_and_Assembly_of_the_Community_of_Serbian_municipalities
- User_talk:Zoupan#Assembly_of_the_Community_of_Serbian_municipalities_and_Community_of_Serbian_municipalities.2C_Kosovo
Issues to be mediated
- Primary issues (added by the filing party)
- What is the relation between the Community of Serbian municipalities in Kosovo formed in 2008, after elections organised by Serbia, with the Community of Serb-majority municipalities in Kosovo, which will be formed from the 2013 municipal elections organised by Kosovo authorities?
- How should this relation be represented in the relevant articles?
- Additional issues (added by other parties)
- The filling party, User:Hasteur, filled this request, trying to make it into a conduct review, and potentially cause sanctions by involving the Arbitration Committee, even though this had nothing to do with the reasons for which we had sought dispute resolution or the articles involved, or their content, or even our conduct in them. After filling this request, he/she tried to disengage himself/herself from this process, stating he/she is not involved in this, even though he filled this and tried to push it to be a mediation over his/her own grievances, contrary to what is stated here: "Formal mediation is only suitable for disputes over article content, so requests to mediate grievances with other editors will not be accepted." The relevant differences to prove this and related content are: [1], Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard#Assembly_of_the_Community_of_Serbian_municipalities, [2] and [3]. This kind of conduct is highly disruptive and forced me to reformulate this request. Heracletus (talk) 01:14, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
- Additional issue 2
Parties' agreement to mediation
- I agree. Heracletus (talk) 01:14, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
Decision of the Mediation Committee
DRN Case manager's note: This is a referral from DRN for failure to come to a solution due to conduct based issues. Indications were made at DRN that one (or more) of the parties to the case would not respect the outcome unless it was in their favor (or enforced by an Admin). Hasteur (talk) 18:32, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
- No party ever indicated such a thing in DRN or anywhere else. To prove this, one can check Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard#Assembly_of_the_Community_of_Serbian_municipalities. Furthermore, the issues which caused User:Hasteur to choose to close the dispute resolution thread on DRN had nothing to do with the dispute, and all to do with what he/she perceived as bad faith against certain volunteers, including himself. By claiming that any party would not respect the outcome unless it was in their favour, User:Hasteur once again tries to be disruptive towards the mediation he/she himself/herself filled a request for. Heracletus (talk) 01:14, 6 May 2014 (UTC)