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So, in order to come to a consensus, let's discuss each one individually. The question to be answered here is "'''Who is considered an 'influential pioneer' in the field of science fiction?'''" The first three sections are to determine if we should keep the section or remove it, and then if we keep it, what subsections it should be divided into and the limit on the number of entries that should be in each section.···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]] · [[WP:JA|<font color="maroon">Join WP Japan</font>]]!</small> 21:01, 7 September 2016 (UTC)}} |
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Should this article list all the soldiers of E Company, including non-notable ones? [[User:Binksternet|Binksternet]] ([[User talk:Binksternet|talk]]) 18:11, 6 September 2016 (UTC)}} |
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'''[[Talk:Louis C.K.#rfc_48D50D2|Talk:Louis C.K.]]''' |
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Should the sexual harassment allegations about CK be mentioned in this page? --[[User:Jpcase|Jpcase]] ([[User talk:Jpcase|talk]]) 13:07, 6 September 2016 (UTC)}} |
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'''[[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Biography#rfc_81FF200|Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Biography]]''' |
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I am being told that timeline sections are not allowed in biographies, does anyone know what !Wikilaw is being cited? Another editor added this to the timeline section, a tiny part of the article: |
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The other editor wrote: "Timelines are allowed for year, century, decade, etc articles; biographies are appropriately presented as prose." Anyone have thoughts? --[[User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )]] ([[User talk:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|talk]]) 04:24, 6 September 2016 (UTC)}} |
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Should this article include an infobox module about his "military career?" --[[User:Light show|Light show]] ([[User talk:Light show|talk]]) 16:12, 5 September 2016 (UTC)}} |
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'''[[Talk:Pavel Florensky#rfc_064B6F9|Talk:Pavel Florensky]]''' |
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The way in which inclusion of information in this article about Florensky's alleged antisemitism is currently under dispute and attempts to seek consensus are not proving useful. I would appreciate responses from uninvolved editors and administrators on the relevant content policies and the consensus processes required to resolve matters. [[User:Afterwriting|Afterwriting]] ([[User talk:Afterwriting|talk]]) 22:31, 1 September 2016 (UTC)}} |
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'''[[Talk:Michael Greger#rfc_4CD3FAF|Talk:Michael Greger]]''' |
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Does the blog post by Harriet A. Hall referenced in this article violate [[WP:BLPSPS]]? [[User:Sammy1339|Sammy1339]] ([[User talk:Sammy1339|talk]] 00:32, 1 September 2016 (UTC)}} |
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'''[[Talk:Denial of the Holodomor#rfc_550D2E8|Talk:Denial of the Holodomor]]''' |
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<blockquote>According to Canadian historians, "Eventually Tottle’s book lost credibility in all but the fringe Stalinist circles, but in the late 1980s material from it appeared in the American “Village Voice”<ref name="conlon">[[Jeff Coplon]], [http://www.chss.montclair.edu/English/furr/vv.html "In Search of a Soviet Holocaust"], ''[[The Village Voice]]'', January 12, 1988.</ref> and various student newspapers in Canada" [https://web.archive.org/web/20110706211152/http://www.ukrainianstudies.uottawa.ca/pdf/P_Serbyn_Danyliw07.pdf]. According to [[Cathy Young]], "the West has its own inglorious history with regard to the famine, starting with the deliberate cover-up by Pulitzer Prize-winning New York Times correspondent Walter Duranty. In the late 1980s, the famine gained new visibility thanks to [[Robert Conquest]]'s [[The Harvest of Sorrow]]: Soviet Collectivization and the Terror-Famine (1987) and the TV documentary Harvest of Despair, aired in the United States and Canada. A backlash from the left was quick to follow. Revisionist Sovietologist [[J. Arch Getty]] accused Conquest of parroting the propaganda of "exiled nationalists." And in January 1988, the [[Village Voice]] ran a lengthy essay by [[Jeff Coplon]] (now a contributing editor at New York magazine) titled "In Search of a Soviet Holocaust: A 55-Year-Old Famine Feeds the Right." Coplon sneered at "the prevailing vogue of anti-Stalinism" and dismissed as absurd the idea that the famine had been created by the Communist regime. Such talk, he asserted, was meant to justify U.S. imperialism and whitewash Ukrainian collaboration with the Nazis."<ref>{{cite web|author=Cathy Young |author-link=Cathy Young |url=http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/861rmjep.asp |title=Remember the Holodomor: The Soviet starvation of Ukraine, 75 years later |volume=14, No. 12 |publisher=The Weekly Standard |date=8 December 2008 |accessdate=1 November 2015}}</ref> In a letter to the editors, [[Robert Conquest]] dismissed the article by Coplon as "error and absurdity".<ref>{{cite news|first=Robert|last=Conquest|author-link=Robert Conquest|publisher=Village Voice|location=New York|date=February 2, 1988|title=Letters to the editors|url=http://www.scribd.com/doc/16317836/The-Ukrainian-Weekly-198808|deadurl=unfit|archiveurl=https://wayback.archive.org/web/20151118072744/https://www.scribd.com/doc/16317836/The-Ukrainian-Weekly-1988-08|archivedate=18 November 2016}} – Reprinted by the ''[[The Ukrainian Weekly]]'', February 21, 1988</ref></blockquote> |
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[[User:Kingsindian|Kingsindian]] [[User Talk: Kingsindian|♝]] [[Special:Contributions/Kingsindian|♚]] 03:11, 31 August 2016 (UTC)}} |
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'''[[Talk:Jill Stein#rfc_181ED0F|Talk:Jill Stein]]''' |
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Now that a "political positions of" page has been created -- in accordance with Wikipedia practices for [[Political positions of Hillary Clinton|Hillary Clinton]], [[Political positions of Donald Trump|Donald Trump]], and [[Political positions of Gary Johnson|Gary Johnson]] -- 2 questions arise: |
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<blockquote>1) How should the "political positions" -- duplicated verbatim at [[Political positions of Jill Stein]] -- section of this, her biography, page be slimmed down for appropriate weight?</blockquote> |
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<blockquote>2) Should there be a moratorium on edits to this section, in preference to edits on her political positions page?</blockquote> |
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It is not a violation of neutrality (as Wukai claimed when he removed this content) to correct false and misleading claims that candidates make in support of their positions. Should Donald Trump's false claims about climate change be allowed to stand without correction? If not, why should Stein's? If Clinton can't be allowed to make false claims about healthcare costs, solar energy, charter schools etc., why should Stein be allowed to make misleading health claims about her energy plan? [[User:Snooganssnoogans|Snooganssnoogans]] ([[User talk:Snooganssnoogans|talk]]) 12:49, 28 August 2016 (UTC)}} |
It is not a violation of neutrality (as Wukai claimed when he removed this content) to correct false and misleading claims that candidates make in support of their positions. Should Donald Trump's false claims about climate change be allowed to stand without correction? If not, why should Stein's? If Clinton can't be allowed to make false claims about healthcare costs, solar energy, charter schools etc., why should Stein be allowed to make misleading health claims about her energy plan? [[User:Snooganssnoogans|Snooganssnoogans]] ([[User talk:Snooganssnoogans|talk]]) 12:49, 28 August 2016 (UTC)}} |
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Should either of the following sentences (in any form) be included on Jill Stein's biography page? |
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<blockquote>When asked if she considered it appropriate to call President Obama an "Uncle Tom" as her running mate did, Stein answered "I would never do that." When asked if she would make Baraka apologize for calling Obama an "Uncle Tom", Stein said that she would not.<ref name=WaPo>{{Cite news|url=https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2016/08/25/a-transcript-of-jill-steins-meeting-with-the-washington-post-editorial-board/?utm_term=.18bae5fa7b4a|title=A transcript of Jill Stein’s meeting with The Washington Post editorial board|last=Staff|first=Post Opinions|date=2016-08-25|newspaper=The Washington Post|language=en-US|issn=0190-8286|access-date=2016-08-26}}</ref></blockquote> |
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:''"'''Many of''' his statements in interviews, on Twitter, and at campaign rallies have been controversial '''or false''',[1][2] ..."'' |
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<blockquote> When asked if she agreed with her running mate's reference to the “gangster states” of NATO, Stein answered that she would not use Baraka's language but that "he means the same thing I'm saying".<ref name=WaPo/></blockquote> |
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* {{cite web|url=http://www.factcheck.org/2015/12/the-king-of-whoppers-donald-trump/|title=The ‘King of Whoppers': Donald Trump|publisher=[[FactCheck.org]]|date=December 21, 2015}} |
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* {{cite web|url=http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2015/dec/21/2015-lie-year-donald-trump-campaign-misstatements/|title=2015 Lie of the Year: the campaign misstatements of Donald Trump|publisher=[[PolitiFact]]|date=December 21, 2015|first1=Angie Drobnic|last1=Holan|first2=Linda|last2=Qiu}} |
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Prior talk page discussion [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Donald_Trump&oldid=736169936#Lead_changes_23_August_2016 here]. --[[User:DrFleischman|Dr. Fleischman]] ([[User talk:DrFleischman|talk]]) 17:36, 25 August 2016 (UTC)}} |
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Revision as of 20:02, 9 September 2016
The following discussions are requested to have community-wide attention:
Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Science Fiction
So, in order to come to a consensus, let's discuss each one individually. The question to be answered here is "Who is considered an 'influential pioneer' in the field of science fiction?" The first three sections are to determine if we should keep the section or remove it, and then if we keep it, what subsections it should be divided into and the limit on the number of entries that should be in each section.···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 21:01, 7 September 2016 (UTC) |
Talk:E Company, 506th Infantry Regiment (United States)
Should this article list all the soldiers of E Company, including non-notable ones? Binksternet (talk) 18:11, 6 September 2016 (UTC) |
Should the sexual harassment allegations about CK be mentioned in this page? --Jpcase (talk) 13:07, 6 September 2016 (UTC) |
Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Biography
I am being told that timeline sections are not allowed in biographies, does anyone know what !Wikilaw is being cited? Another editor added this to the timeline section, a tiny part of the article:
The other editor wrote: "Timelines are allowed for year, century, decade, etc articles; biographies are appropriately presented as prose." Anyone have thoughts? --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 04:24, 6 September 2016 (UTC) |
Should this article include an infobox module about his "military career?" --Light show (talk) 16:12, 5 September 2016 (UTC) |
The way in which inclusion of information in this article about Florensky's alleged antisemitism is currently under dispute and attempts to seek consensus are not proving useful. I would appreciate responses from uninvolved editors and administrators on the relevant content policies and the consensus processes required to resolve matters. Afterwriting (talk) 22:31, 1 September 2016 (UTC) |
Does the blog post by Harriet A. Hall referenced in this article violate WP:BLPSPS? Sammy1339 (talk 00:32, 1 September 2016 (UTC) |
Should the "Douglas Tottle and Others" section contain the following?
Kingsindian ♝ ♚ 03:11, 31 August 2016 (UTC) |
Now that a "political positions of" page has been created -- in accordance with Wikipedia practices for Hillary Clinton, Donald Trump, and Gary Johnson -- 2 questions arise:
SashiRolls (talk) 16:10, 30 August 2016 (UTC) |
Menelik's Reign as Emperor needs to be split up based on the focus, examples: Wars, Atrocities, Developments, Private Life, etc? Please read the Menelik II "Reign as Emperor" and provide comments on how to improve this article section and article.Otakrem (talk) 21:44, 28 August 2016 (UTC) |
As is the case when candidates make factually inaccurate claims, Wikipedia allows content from reliable sources to correct those claims. The Political positions of Donald Trump[2] and Political positions of Hillary Clinton[3] are full of this kind of content (just ctrl+F "PolitiFact", "Factcheck.org", "false" and so on). There is therefore no reason to remove the the content in bold which has caught attention by RS and been corrected:
It is not a violation of neutrality (as Wukai claimed when he removed this content) to correct false and misleading claims that candidates make in support of their positions. Should Donald Trump's false claims about climate change be allowed to stand without correction? If not, why should Stein's? If Clinton can't be allowed to make false claims about healthcare costs, solar energy, charter schools etc., why should Stein be allowed to make misleading health claims about her energy plan? Snooganssnoogans (talk) 12:49, 28 August 2016 (UTC) |
Should the lead section, which currently says:
be changed to read (changes in bold):
The proposed sources are:
Prior talk page discussion here. --Dr. Fleischman (talk) 17:36, 25 August 2016 (UTC) |
Should this article mention the fact that WikiLeaks offered $20,000 in reward money for providing information regarding the perpetrator of this crime? FallingGravity 06:28, 24 August 2016 (UTC) |
Extensive debate over the past week regarding the selection of a consistent citation format for citations in the Jane Austen article. A group of three editors have stepped up to offer to do the complete conversion of the article into Harvard format following WP:CITEVAR (@Jonesey95, RexxS, and Prairieplant:) which has been substantially started by them already. They were rebuffed by users Victoriaearle and Lingzhi who felt that the original version of the article from 10 years ago had initially been started in MLA format by the late Wadewitz. Since Wadewitz passed away, 5-6 editors have edited the article in different cite formats, and the late Wadewitz is no longer here to state a preference. If you SUPPORT the complete conversion of the remainder of the article in agreement with the Harvard format then indicate this as your SUPPORT, and if you OPPOSE the Harvard format then indicate your preference below. The Policy and Tech editors may also indicate their preferences below. Fountains-of-Paris (talk) 15:09, 22 August 2016 (UTC) |
Should Eron Gjoni's side of the story be reported?
I tried to add Eron Gjoni's side of the story in edit 734887712, but it was quickly reverted by frequents editors of this article citing "need for concensus," which seems to be abuse of the concept of concensus. Concensus is noted to be needed for bold edits. I'm adding Gjoni's side of the story in a tiny manner. There is no controversy in that. Not noting his side of the story would infringe upon WP:BLP. Mr. Magoo (talk) 11:22, 17 August 2016 (UTC) |
Talk:Paul Singer (businessman)
Requesting input per this lead removal on August 15 with this rationale, which met with reversions from User:Nomoskedasticity, and a reversion from User:SegataSanshiro1, both citing prior consensus. They are referring to a two-year discussion about the use of “vulture” as a descriptor in the lead of a biography. For the purpose of this discussion, I have a two-part question:
1) Is “vulture” a derogatory slur? 2) If so, does it belong in the lead of a biography (or corporate lead for that matter)? In the hopes of keeping discussion pointed, I might strongly urge contributors from the prior RfCs to read the extended reasoning for my removal before adding their thoughts. Likewise, I'm sure scanning the old RfCs for new contributors would be a boon. Yvarta (talk) 21:31, 16 August 2016 (UTC) |
Question: Should an Infobox be added to the article? -- Dane2007 talk 18:52, 15 August 2016 (UTC) |
- ^ Jeff Coplon, "In Search of a Soviet Holocaust", The Village Voice, January 12, 1988.
- ^ Cathy Young (8 December 2008). "Remember the Holodomor: The Soviet starvation of Ukraine, 75 years later". The Weekly Standard. Retrieved 1 November 2015.
- ^ Conquest, Robert (February 2, 1988). "Letters to the editors". New York: Village Voice. Archived from the original on 18 November 2016.
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- ^ "Jill Stein just went way overboard on sea level rise". Washington Post. Retrieved 2016-08-26.
- ^ Board, Editorial (2016-08-25). "Jill Stein's fairy-tale candidacy". The Washington Post. ISSN 0190-8286. Retrieved 2016-08-26.