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#'''Support''' This user has a 96% in CSD tagging. I trust the nomination of Worm and see no problems with this candidate. I'm sure they will be an excellent admin.—[[User:Cyberpower678|<font color=green face=Neuropol>cyberpower]] [[User talk:Cyberpower678|<sup><font color=olive face=arnprior>Chat</sup></font>]]<sub style="margin-left:-3.7ex"><font color=olive face=arnprior>Online</font></sub> 13:36, 23 July 2012 (UTC) |
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Yunshui
(talk page) (11/1/0); Scheduled to end 07:41, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
Nomination
Yunshui (talk · contribs) – Whenever I get a chance, I try to help out at Editor Review, with the vague hope of finding an excellent candidate for adminship. A few months ago, I found Yunshui, a hard-working editor who wanted a bit of feedback. The more I investigated, the more impressed I was and now I believe he's reached the point that he should put himself forward for mop-duties.
Yunshui clearly has the right temperment to be an administrator, I've not seen him lose his head in any of the investigations I've done. He certainly has a good track record in administrative areas, participating in hundreds of WP:AfDs, has a long CSD log (despite only moving to Twinkle in May), along with hundreds of edits to WP:UAA and WP:AIV.
Although not one of our most prolific content creators, he has created around 75 articles and does spend time working on those articles that interest him, pretty much singlehandedly creating Chikaraishi. Instead, he occupies his time helping new editors, answering questions at the helpdesk, responding to feedback, even writing a series of essays "for beginners".
In short, I believe Yunshui would make an excellent administrator, I hope you do too. WormTT(talk) 13:27, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
Co-nomination by Vibhijain
Its a pleasure for me to co-nominate Yunshui for the admin tools. A great vandalism fighter, he shows all those signs which I look for an administrator. He is trustworthy, helpful, civil, and most importantly, he knows what he is doing. Instead of simply reverting newbies, he always makes a point to help them in learning Wikipedia policies and guidelines, which makes him a great asset to the project. Also the way he deals with conflicts is superb. I believe that handing the administrator rights to Yunshui will benefit the project in a great sense. ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ Talk Email 10:39, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
- Candidate, please indicate acceptance of the nomination here: Thank you; I accept. Yunshui 雲水 07:22, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
Questions for the candidate
Dear candidate, thank you for offering to serve Wikipedia as an administrator. Please answer these questions to provide guidance for participants:
- 1. What administrative work do you intend to take part in?
- A: Much of my best work has been in the field of anti-vandalism and dealing with other unsuitable additions to the encyclopedia, so I anticipate being active primarily at AIV, UAA and RPP. I've often noticed backlogs at these pages, especially RPP, and as a regular reporter to them I know how frustrating it can be when a report doesn't get a quick response. I also expect to work at CSD and AFD; I've spent a lot of time using both and believe I have a fairly sound understanding of the relevant policies. Yunshui 雲水 07:22, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
- 2. What are your best contributions to Wikipedia, and why?
- A: I'm quietly proud of Chikaraishi, which I took to GA virtually single-handed; who knew there was so much to say about a load of rocks? Much of the content I create has been, by necessity, fairly stubby; there isn't much available in English on many of the topics that interest me, so I've often had to put together what I can from sources and then wait for other Japanese-speaking editors to finish the job. I've recently joined WikiProject Japan, which will hopefully give me better opportunities to create content. A list of some of the articles I've had most to do with is available on my userpage here, for anyone who's interested. However, I see my efforts to preserve the integrity of the encyclopedia as my most useful work on the project: reverting vandals, tagging patently unsuitable content and trying to help new users learn the ropes before they do too much damage is, sadly, as important as content creation nowadays, Yunshui 雲水 07:22, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
- 3. Have you been in any conflicts over editing in the past or have other users caused you stress? How have you dealt with it and how will you deal with it in the future?
- A: I've gotten into a few disputes so far. I'd point to the furore over Woodleigh School, North Yorkshire (see this AfD, this AfD, the article talkpage (including archives) and this talkpage thread for details) and the incident over Downside School (details here) as a couple of the most heated. I suppose the most stress I've been caused to date was when User:Ksanthosh89 started systematically proposing every article I'd ever created for deletion (in response to this thread), although that was over with fairly quickly after this ANI report. Feel free to delve through my talkpage archives; there are plenty more instances there. My usual approach to such events is to remain detached and try to help the other user(s) understand why I believe Wikipedia's policies support my position rather than theirs; that's the vein in which I plan to continue. Yunshui 雲水 07:22, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
- Additional question from Callanecc
- 4. This scenario, I believe, is something which you may encounter as an admin. Please read the following and answer the questions.
- An IP user completely changes a large section of an article on a living from being unreferenced to completely referenced. However on the talk page, the community has a consensus to use the unreferenced information. Acting with this consensus, an experienced registered user manually uses rollback (with default edit summary) to revert the change and issues a level
{{uw-vandalism4im}}
warning (just the template by itself) to the IP user (the IP user has made 10 edits on 6 different pages all of which were good edits). The IP user asks the rollbacker (on the rollbacker's talk page) to explain why they reverted the referenced edits. - Following the rollback & warning and request for the rollbacker to explain their actions (which, after an hour of the rollbacker being active on Wikipedia hadn't yet been answered), the IP user undid the revert and added the referenced information back. The same registered user rollbacks again, and leaves a duplicate 4im warning and IP asks the rollbacker to explain their actions again. After another hour of the rollbacker not responding to the IP (during this time the rollbacker is still active on Wikipedia), the IP adds the information in again. The rollbacker uses rollback again then reports the IP to WP:AIV.
- You see the request at AIV; outline all the steps you would take, and the policy basis for those actions.
- I suggest that you structure your answer into the following format (but it's completely up to you): (a) request at AIV (decline/accept, any other actions & why); (b) the revert including use of rollback, warning, unanswered message on rollbacker's talk page, possible 3RR vio (for all - implications, your actions and policy basis); (c) change to the article (your actions (and possible actions) and policy basis).
- A: "The community has a consensus to use the unreferenced information"? That doesn't strike me as very likely scenario. Policy requires that BLPs be referenced, and policy is consensus, writ large. A talkpage discussion on a single article doesn't overrule that. In addition, your hypothetical rollbacker is clearly making some very serious errors that no experienced editor should commit: using a 4im warning for a first offence, using a vandalism warning for an edit which clearly isn't vandalism, using rollback to edit-war (against policy, at that), refusing to engage in discussion... Please tell me this scenario isn't based on real events!
- My course of action would be as follows:
- Check the sources added by the IP (to ensure that they are actually appropriate sources and not links to lemonparty.org or similar). Assuming they're legit:
- Deny the AIV report (probably with {{AIV|nv}}, although there are a few other appropriate notes that could potentially be used).
- Contact the rollbacker to warn them that the IPs edits do not fall under the heading of vandalism and that they are misusing the rollback tool to edit war. In particular, point out that their rollback rights will be revoked if they continue, per the rollback guidelines. I'd also leave them a 3RR warning.
- Contact the IP to welcome them, thank them for their efforts and reassure them, then explain the three revert rule and suggest that they leave the article alone until it has been discussed, inviting them to participate in the discussion.
- Head to the article talkpage to challenge the consensus there, quoting the BLP policy, if necessary opening an RfC to open the debate to a wider audience. Consensus can change, and in this case, almost certainly should. Depending on the content of the unsourced text, I might revert to the IPs preferred version for the duration of the discussion.
- Additional question from Rcsprinter123
- 5. If for instance there was a new editor who kept coming to your talkpage asking for advice constantly, and then it turned out to be a sockpuppet of an editor in good standing you knew previously, what would you do to A) the sock, and B) the editor? Would you let them explain themselves and have another chance or block instantly?
- A: Sockpuppetry is specifically the use of multiple accounts for improper purposes. Assuming that they weren't using the new account to circumvent a block, vandalise, support their previous account in a dispute or otherwise disrupt the running of the project, I would suggest to them that they link the accounts on their userpage and point them at the appropriate policy - and that's all. If I believed they were attempting a clean start (if the old account was retired, for example), I might not even go that far. Blocking certainly wouldn't be my first thought. Yunshui 雲水 10:46, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
- Additional questions from Dennis Brown
- 6. Very briefly, and in a very general way, please explain the role of admins, as you would to someone who has just discovered Wikipedia.
- 7 What do you think is the biggest challenge that Wikipedia faces over the next few years?
- A: That's a really interesting and thought-provoking question, thank you Dennis! Ignoring outside legislation such as SOPA, which we can't do much about, I think the biggest problem is new editors' motivation. By that, I mean that most new editors seem to come here to write one specific article (usually about themselves, their company, their band etc.), rather than coming here to write an encyclopedia. I suspect (I sincerely hope!) that my perspective on this is skewed by the areas that I tend to work in, but certainly in my experience the lifecycle of a typical new editor seems to be: register account, create promotional article for self/company/band, complain when article is deleted, disappear. New editors who genuinely want to make the encyclopedia better are rarer than hen's teeth; that's why I try to go out of my way to help them when they turn up.
- As long as the motive behind editing Wikipedia is "get my article into the world's largest encyclopedia", we will continue to be plagued by this phenomenon. The challenge, then, is to preserve the open-access editing policy of Wikipedia without becoming a huge directory of spam. How we go about achieving that in the long term, I have no idea (but fortunately you only asked me to identify a problem, not solve it!). Yunshui 雲水 12:26, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
General comments
- Links for Yunshui: Yunshui (talk · contribs · deleted · count · AfD · logs · block log · lu · rfar · spi)
- Edit summary usage for Yunshui can be found here.
Please keep discussion constructive and civil. If you are unfamiliar with the nominee, please thoroughly review his contributions before commenting.
Discussion
Support
- Strong support - One of the best editors I have seen around. An editor who fights vandalism, makes accurate CSD tagging, loves content creation, helps newcomers by giving feedback, gives the right advise and is always ready to help along is nothing but a "perfect candidate" to me. I just opened this and quickly gave out my !vote. No doubt whatsoever in his ability. — TheSpecialUser ≪TSU≫ 08:06, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
- Support Excellent nominator. I can't say much more than I did in the nomination, I've had my eye on Yunshui as a candidate for a while, and I hope he's what people are looking for. WormTT(talk) 08:09, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
- Strong support TSU has said what I want to said. I'm about to nominate Yunshui but he has been done now--Morning Sunshine (talk) 08:23, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
- Strong support Yunshui is a wonderful editor who's helped out numerous people. I have no doubts that he'd be a wonderful, effective administrator. --ΚΛΤΛΝΛGØDΤλłκ 08:39, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
- Strong Support As co-nominator. ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ Talk Email 10:01, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
- Strong Support Excellent nominator. Grand editor, no issues. ⇒TAP 10:37, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
- Support No problems, and keep up the good work at Wikiproject Japan! Minima© (talk) 10:41, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
- Support We've only interacted once, but he dealt with the case like an admin would and he can be trusted with the mop. Floating Boat (the editor formerly known as AndieM) 10:51, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
- Support - looks fine to me. Deb (talk) 11:15, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
- Support - level-headed editor, seems focused & committed, and will use the tools well. GiantSnowman 11:33, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
- Support The strengths of the nom is obvious, but I was glad to see a practical and relaxed attitude in answering my questions, which had no right or wrong answers, but did give me some insight as to his attitude. "Rules" can be learned, but either you have the right demeanor or you don't, and it appears he does. Dennis Brown - 2¢ © (WER) 13:14, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
Oppose
- Support This user has a 96% in CSD tagging. I trust the nomination of Worm and see no problems with this candidate. I'm sure they will be an excellent admin.—cyberpower ChatOnline 13:36, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
Neutral