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Greetings my friends. I have been around here for eight years and not as active as I used to be, Regardless, I need help identifying a song someone shared with me last year. I gazed the video on youtube just enough that the basic feel got stuck in my head. Here we go. Certainly an 80's band, but not a huge hit song, at least not in the USA. Female lead singer, male band. It is a band, not a solo artist. I want to think they are Scottish, Irish or British. She has blonde hair, caucasian the video is set at night, a campfire. A bit of a US western theme. Mid tempo song, guitars are not loud. Not punk or hard rock, The drum beat is similar to Aerosmith "Walk This Way" but the song is absolutely nothing like that. A nice flowing love admiration type song, she twirls around Stevie Nicks style. The song is upbeat, a groove but not Motown. I consider my self a guru of music knowledge, so this is driving me insane that I cannot place it. Any help is deeply appreciated. ( it is not the Sundays, etc,) 1980's mid to late. Thanks and cheers [[User:10draftsdeep|10draftsdeep]] ([[User talk:10draftsdeep|talk]]) 01:25, 15 September 2016 (UTC) |
Greetings my friends. I have been around here for eight years and not as active as I used to be, Regardless, I need help identifying a song someone shared with me last year. I gazed the video on youtube just enough that the basic feel got stuck in my head. Here we go. Certainly an 80's band, but not a huge hit song, at least not in the USA. Female lead singer, male band. It is a band, not a solo artist. I want to think they are Scottish, Irish or British. She has blonde hair, caucasian the video is set at night, a campfire. A bit of a US western theme. Mid tempo song, guitars are not loud. Not punk or hard rock, The drum beat is similar to Aerosmith "Walk This Way" but the song is absolutely nothing like that. A nice flowing love admiration type song, she twirls around Stevie Nicks style. The song is upbeat, a groove but not Motown. I consider my self a guru of music knowledge, so this is driving me insane that I cannot place it. Any help is deeply appreciated. ( it is not the Sundays, etc,) 1980's mid to late. Thanks and cheers [[User:10draftsdeep|10draftsdeep]] ([[User talk:10draftsdeep|talk]]) 01:25, 15 September 2016 (UTC) |
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:[[The Cranberries]] ? Irish band formed in 1989, female singer, male band-mates. Modest success in the US. She alternates her hair between dark and blond. |
:[[The Cranberries]] ? Irish band formed in 1989, female Caucasian singer, male band-mates. Modest success in the US. She alternates her hair between dark and blond. |
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:Here's a video of one of their songs, ''Animal Instinct'': [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ky4CdN0x58A], where she does have blond hair. That doesn't sound much like the video you described, but at least you can decide if that might be the right band. [[User:StuRat|StuRat]] ([[User talk:StuRat|talk]]) 03:29, 15 September 2016 (UTC) |
:Here's a video of one of their songs, ''Animal Instinct'': [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ky4CdN0x58A], where she does have blond hair. That doesn't sound much like the video you described, but at least you can decide if that might be the right band. [[User:StuRat|StuRat]] ([[User talk:StuRat|talk]]) 03:29, 15 September 2016 (UTC) |
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September 9
MLB American and National Leagues being Democratic and Republican
Why people say that American League is Democratic or pro-Democratic and National League Republican or pro-Republican? is it because New York City, Boston, Chicago, Baltimore, Oakland, Seattle, Anaheim and Detroit are socially liberal while Atlanta, Miami (home of Marlins), Cincinnati, Arizona (home of Diamondbacks), and St. Louis are socially conservative? Where did they get the idea? Donmust90 (talk) 00:36, 9 September 2016 (UTC)Donmust90Donmust90 (talk) 00:36, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
- [citation needed]. I have been watching Baseball for 30+ years, and never heard such a thing. No one can answer "why" to a presumption which is not already established. --Jayron32 00:43, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
- The closest thing to this would be spurious correlations of which league wins an election year World Series. I question the core premise characterizing the cities. But the premise fails anyway, because New York, Chicago, the Bay Area and the Los Angeles area have teams in each league. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 03:48, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
- Also, the premise is demonstratedly wrong. Donmust claims Atlanta is in the "Pro-republican/Conservative" camp. List of mayors of Atlanta shows Atlanta hasn't elected a Republican mayor since the 1870s, and has been reliably Democratic for over a century. --Jayron32 12:30, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
- Ditto with St. Louis. A major reason for the Missouri bellwether phenomenon is the two big cities and their Democratic-favoring politics, because without them, the state would be strongly Republican. Nyttend (talk) 16:21, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
- Also, the premise is demonstratedly wrong. Donmust claims Atlanta is in the "Pro-republican/Conservative" camp. List of mayors of Atlanta shows Atlanta hasn't elected a Republican mayor since the 1870s, and has been reliably Democratic for over a century. --Jayron32 12:30, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
- The closest thing to this would be spurious correlations of which league wins an election year World Series. I question the core premise characterizing the cities. But the premise fails anyway, because New York, Chicago, the Bay Area and the Los Angeles area have teams in each league. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 03:48, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
- In Chicago, the National League Cubs are associated with the white-collar neighborhood their stadium is in (and previous team owner, the Tribune is the more conservative newspaper in town) while the American League Whie Sox are associated with a blue collar area. But in New York I believe the situation is reverse with the Yankees/Mets. Rmhermen (talk) 17:05, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
- The Cubs are also currently owned by the Ricketts family, which has been a donor to the Republicans. I don't know anything about the political persuasions of the Reinsdorfs. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 16:51, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
Video from the 90s, techno, bunny dancing
Trying to find a video from the 90s. There was a guy dressed as a bunny dancing on the scenario. The music was kind of techno. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Llaanngg (talk • contribs) 16:31, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
- Putting the title of this section into Google gave me a Yahoo Answers link which had these videos listed:
- Happyland - Don't You Know Who I Am
- Love Inc. - Broken Bones (though a quick scan of it didn't have any bunnies.)
- And this from Love Inc. but that's blocked in my country. †Dismas†|(talk) 00:00, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
- "The Bad Touch" by Bloodhound Gang. --Jayron32 00:47, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
- Could it be Jive Bunny? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jive_Bunny_and_the_Mastermixers Snorgle (talk) 12:37, 14 September 2016 (UTC)
September 10
Help identifying a tune
Well, it's more like a snippet. The beginning, I think. Been bothering me for a few weeks. Usually I eventually figure out where I've heard something that pops into my inner ear out of nowhere, but not this one. I must have heard it played on a shawm-type instrument, and it definitely sounded medieval, which makes me think I might have heard it in a movie, which makes me think it might not actually be from the middle ages. Anyway, here it is:
Thanks in advance! ---Sluzzelin talk 08:39, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
- Do you have an audio recording of it? For me personally, it would be easier to ID that way. 2601:646:8E01:7E0B:F88D:DE34:7772:8E5B (talk) 21:58, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
- Suggest you try Musipedia.--Shantavira|feed me 05:45, 11 September 2016 (UTC)
- I tried searching for the Parsons code (*RUURDUUDDDDRUURDUUDDD) at http://www.musipedia.org/melodic_contour.html, but without success.
- —Wavelength (talk) 05:53, 11 September 2016 (UTC)
- Thank you, Shantavira & Wavelength. I had tried Musipedia, with the keyboard function, using the exact same notes I posted, but no success either. 2601:646..., I have no audio recording, sorry, I tried to link to my Musipedia search, where you can play the melody too, but somehow Wikipedia couldn't read my link (it got cut off at some weird place before an apostrophe, even though the link contained no space). The link is "http://www.musipedia.org/result.html?sourceid=melody-url&tx_mpsearch_pi1%5bsubmit_button%5d=Search&tx_mpsearch_pi1%5bpc%5d=lilya'8+a'8+b'8+d''8+d''4+cis''8+d''8+e''8+d''16+cis''16+b'4+a'8+a'8+b'8+d''8+d''4+cis''8+d''8+e''8+d''16+cis''16+b'4+&filtertext=&coll=m&onlymatchfrom=0.3". Maybe try copy/pasting it, then click on the little speaker icon to the right of the line starting with "Your search query". ---Sluzzelin talk 08:39, 11 September 2016 (UTC)
- Sounds kind of similar to the French folk tune "Bransle des pois", if you ask me. So if I'm right, then it would in fact be (late) medieval. 2601:646:8E01:7E0B:F88D:DE34:7772:8E5B (talk) 00:52, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
OP here. By weird association, from watching an unrelated program on BBC, it came to me, and I have verified it. It is repeatedly used in Simon Schama's A History of Britain. So it was most likely, almost certainly, written by John Harle. I couldn't find it listed among the tunes featured on the series' (rare, and hardly available) score album. Thank you, everyone. I'm sure this thread had something to do with retrieving it, and besides, I listened to music I had never listened to before! ---Sluzzelin talk 23:20, 14 September 2016 (UTC)
National Football League schedules
National Football League#Regular season says NFL games are rarely scheduled for Tuesday or Wednesday. Why? The existence of Thursday games demonstrates that middle-of-the-week games aren't necessarily a bad idea financially. I can't think of another reason why they'd not have Tuesday games, especially for teams that are scheduled to have a bye in the next week and thus wouldn't be badly affected by playing on a different day. Nyttend (talk) 16:32, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
- There's no obvious reason not to except custom or tradition. The NFL used to be pretty much "always on Sunday" except for the Turkey Day game(s). Monday Night Football began soon after the NFL-AFL merger. Thursday night games are a relatively recent phenomenon. Fridays and Saturdays are typically for high school and college, respectively, until they stop playing. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 16:49, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
- Midweek games are highly unpopular among players and coaches, even the recently instituted Thursday Night Game, which is liked by no one except the TV network that gets to air it. Read, for example here. Players often feel the don't get enough rest on a Thursday Night game. --Jayron32 20:44, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
- I'm surprised by what I read. I just assumed that these games would be played in concert with a bye week: a team might play on 4 September, have their bye on 11 September, play on 15 September instead of the normal 18 September for that week, and then play their next game on 25 September. Nyttend (talk) 04:13, 11 September 2016 (UTC)
- That would short-change their bye week. Given Jayron's point, I doubt they would stand for that. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 08:51, 11 September 2016 (UTC)
- What hasn't been mentioned is that a Tuesday game for teams that played on Sunday would leave approximately 48 hours between games. That is not enough time to physically recover nor does it leave enough time to install a game plan. The travel for the away team (especially if it is a west coast to east) would be a nightmare. MarnetteD|Talk 20:32, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
- They wouldn't have a Tuesday game following a Sunday game. They would have a Tuesday instead of the previous Sunday game. But that would leave them only four days to get ready for the next Sunday game, which is not good either. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 22:52, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
- Hi Baseball Bugs. I wasn't saying what the NFL would do. I was using N's criteria which only mentioned having the bye week after the Tuesday game to point out some of the pitfalls. Hopefully, the players will never have to face anything other than the current schedule but if they did it would make your scenario would make far more sense. MarnetteD|Talk 23:28, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
- Regardless of when the bye week is, a game played on a given weekday is a replacement for a game that would have been on the nearest Sunday, not in addition to. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 02:44, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
- Hi Baseball Bugs. I wasn't saying what the NFL would do. I was using N's criteria which only mentioned having the bye week after the Tuesday game to point out some of the pitfalls. Hopefully, the players will never have to face anything other than the current schedule but if they did it would make your scenario would make far more sense. MarnetteD|Talk 23:28, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
- They wouldn't have a Tuesday game following a Sunday game. They would have a Tuesday instead of the previous Sunday game. But that would leave them only four days to get ready for the next Sunday game, which is not good either. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 22:52, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
- What hasn't been mentioned is that a Tuesday game for teams that played on Sunday would leave approximately 48 hours between games. That is not enough time to physically recover nor does it leave enough time to install a game plan. The travel for the away team (especially if it is a west coast to east) would be a nightmare. MarnetteD|Talk 20:32, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
- That would short-change their bye week. Given Jayron's point, I doubt they would stand for that. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 08:51, 11 September 2016 (UTC)
- I'm surprised by what I read. I just assumed that these games would be played in concert with a bye week: a team might play on 4 September, have their bye on 11 September, play on 15 September instead of the normal 18 September for that week, and then play their next game on 25 September. Nyttend (talk) 04:13, 11 September 2016 (UTC)
- Midweek games are highly unpopular among players and coaches, even the recently instituted Thursday Night Game, which is liked by no one except the TV network that gets to air it. Read, for example here. Players often feel the don't get enough rest on a Thursday Night game. --Jayron32 20:44, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
September 11
Sculpture or monument
Does anybody where is this monument or sculpture located in? The scene of this video is at 11:15 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXJ20H0iTIU Donmust90 (talk) 02:20, 11 September 2016 (UTC)Donmust90Donmust90 (talk) 02:20, 11 September 2016 (UTC)
- I see a grey concrete object. I can't tell what it is. -- Jack of Oz [pleasantries] 05:27, 11 September 2016 (UTC)
- According to IMDb, the episode was filmed at Lawrence Park Collegiate Institute in Toronto. This might assist in tracking down the sculpture. Tevildo (talk) 10:56, 11 September 2016 (UTC)
- The IMDb page says, "Save for the school track scenes which were filmed at Lawrence Park Collegiate Institute, all of the running sequences in this episode were shot at various locations throughout Toronto's High Park." Since in the scene the boys are running cross-country rather than on a track, a location in High Park seems likely. Deor (talk) 13:37, 11 September 2016 (UTC)
- According to IMDb, the episode was filmed at Lawrence Park Collegiate Institute in Toronto. This might assist in tracking down the sculpture. Tevildo (talk) 10:56, 11 September 2016 (UTC)
- I see a grey concrete object. I can't tell what it is. -- Jack of Oz [pleasantries] 05:27, 11 September 2016 (UTC)
MI+
At about the time of the first Mission: Impossible movie, someone recorded a longer, more elaborate version of Lalo Schifrin's theme; it got some play on VH1 at least. Who was that? —Tamfang (talk) 07:03, 11 September 2016 (UTC)
- Do you mean the 1996 Adam Clayton & Larry Mullen Jr. version? Here's a clip. It was used for the film too, however. It's also mentioned in the article on Theme from Mission: Impossible. ---Sluzzelin talk 08:09, 11 September 2016 (UTC)
Some dual role movies as Father & Son - Hollywood?
Friends please name some hollywood movies that has dual role by same actor as father and son. Not like the same character disguising for a scene (like mrs. doubtfire) but rather played by same actor as father and son or mother and daughter. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 183.83.51.177 (talk) 10:54, 11 September 2016 (UTC)
- In Back to the Future Part II, Michael J. Fox plays Marty McFly, Marty McFly Jr (his son), and Marlene McFly (his daughter).
- In The Nutty Professor (1996 film), Eddie Murphy plays the main character Sherman, and also plays as each one of: his father, his mother, his grandmother, and his brother. Staecker (talk) 17:53, 11 September 2016 (UTC)
- The question you have asked is likely to be a subset of List of actors who have played multiple roles in the same film. --Jayron32 00:04, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
- In a short-lived TV series called The Second Hundred Years, Monte Markham played his own grandson. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 00:24, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
- Not Hollywood, but Alec Guinness's roles in Kind Hearts and Coronets include a father and son: "young" Ascoyne (the first victim) and his father Lord Ascoyne d'Ascoyne (the Banker). —Tamfang (talk) 08:40, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
Downloading sheet music
I want to create a library of favorite classical piano music pieces. I want it in a digital form that I can print then on sheets of paper with a printer. What would be a safe website? I found one but they send you emails with attachments which turned me off. Safety is paramount for me. Thanks, - --AboutFace 22 (talk) 14:32, 11 September 2016 (UTC)
- This site offers free downloads of non-copyright sheet music - it might be what you are looking for. https://musopen.org/sheetmusic/ Wymspen (talk) 18:18, 11 September 2016 (UTC)
- I'm wondering why you are concerned about email attachments, but you're ok with downloading files from a web site. Perhaps I am not understanding your concern about email? CodeTalker (talk) 20:10, 11 September 2016 (UTC)
- Also try IMSLP. Not everything they have is copyright-free world-wide, but much of it is. I use it frequently. -- Jack of Oz [pleasantries] 22:02, 11 September 2016 (UTC)
Thank you much. I am not necessarily after free downloads but I want reputable and safe. How about www.8notes.com? --AboutFace 22 (talk) 00:24, 12 September 2016 (UTC) @CodeTalker, everyone says that email attachments are a vehicle for bringing spyware into your computer. Downloading pdf files is not. --AboutFace 22 (talk) 00:26, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
- Sorry to disappoint you, but unknown PDF files can be just as dangerous as email attachments. The trick to staying safe online would seem to me to be more about making sure that your PC has an up-to-date anti-virus, and educating yourself on how to determine whether a source can be trusted, than about avoiding a particular vector. - Cucumber Mike (talk) 06:51, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
Note an email attachment could simply be a PDF. While no file type can be said to be truly safe, I'd actually trust a text file from a highly questionable source much more than I would a PDF from a somewhat trustworthy source. After all there are lots of ways I can view the txt file and while there is some minor risk of OS flaws meaning many programs could be affected it's difficult to say the risk is definitely more than the PDF where the provider could have unwittingly become an agent for infection with some zero-day flaw and while there are a few fair PDF viewers it still tiny compared to the ways you could view the text file. And the complexity of the format means there are many avenues for attack and a higher chance of library or OS flaws.
Of course intrisic in this is another key thing, actually knowing what format your file is and how it's going to be opened. Again this doesn't this apply to email attachments, if you're the sort of person who'd open an exe email attachment thinking it's a PDF or txt file, you could easily be the sort of person who'd open a downloaded exe thinking it's a PDF or txt file.
I know next to nothing about the sites mentioned above, but it isn't that uncommon for sites to be connected to questionable advertisers. (In fact, email actually has an advantage here in that many email providers reject exes outright although they may accept exes in archives. There are some attempts to warn about exe downloads with browsers and at the OS level, but most ISPs aren't going to stop you downloading one even if you simply use unencrypted HTTP so they could monitor it.)
Thank you all for education. My question is about www.8notes.com. Anybody knows anything about it? Thanks, - --AboutFace 22 (talk) 12:17, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
- @AboutFace 22: There are sites that evaluate the reputation of websites; for example: 8notes.com report @ easycounter —2606:A000:4C0C:E200:0:0:0:1 (talk) 17:20, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
Thank you, It is very interesting and helpful. --AboutFace 22 (talk) 22:15, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
Tune ID
As WatZatSong is out of service again... Could someone help in identifying this? The song's refrain is quite similar to "And The Beat Goes On" and generally similar to "Miami", but has female vocals. The refrain lyrics almost certainly had "people... goes on", but I don't see it among renditions of "And The Beat Goes On". The song is from the 80s-90s, certainly no later than the 90s. Had to resort to play piano tune. Brandmeistertalk 19:55, 11 September 2016 (UTC)
Salman, Aishwarya
1. Is Hum Dil Chupke & Hum Tumare the only 2 films Unfortunately for Salman Khan & Aishwarya Rai?
2. I hope There are Other Films?(
- Dhai Akshar Prem Ke , Hum Tumhare Hain Sanam (guest appearance) RahulText me 21:59, 11 September 2016 (UTC)
- Useful tool for such questions: http://www.imdb.com/search/common —Tamfang (talk) 09:00, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
September 14
Information on famous one-legged trick cyclist?
Hi people. About 10 years back I asked here whether anyone had any information on a Charles G. Kilpatrick, a one-legged trick cyclist who was internationally famous in the early 20th century. To show that I am nothing if not tenacious, I'm still looking. What I would love is an obituary on Kilpatrick, who I think died on 30 September 1927, that comes from behind a paywall, as I am confident I've found everything freely available on Kilpatrick.
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated: note that Charles Kilpatrick (athlete) is a different person, who had one more leg than the Charles Kilpatrick I am researching. Thanks! --Roisterer (talk) 09:54, 14 September 2016 (UTC)
- Typing "one legged cyclist kilpatrick" into Google was rather fruitful. These were the first four book results: [1] [2] [3] [4]. Maybe following this strand you can find more. --Jayron32 12:45, 14 September 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks but already found them. As mentioned, I'm confident I've found everything freely available on the net on Kilpatrick. Surely though there's got to be an obit somewhere behind a paywall ... --Roisterer (talk) 14:02, 14 September 2016 (UTC)
- On ancestry.com, a pay site, I'm seeing this from the Illinois deaths list:
- Name: Charles G. Kilpatrick
- Father: James D. Kilpatrick
- Mother: Mary E. Cole
- Birth: 11 Sep 1869 - Danville, Vermilion, Illinois
- Death: 30 Sep 1927 - Danville, Vermilion , Illinois
- Occupation: Insurance salesman
- Does this mesh with what you know? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 01:32, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
- On ancestry.com, a pay site, I'm seeing this from the Illinois deaths list:
- Thanks but already found them. As mentioned, I'm confident I've found everything freely available on the net on Kilpatrick. Surely though there's got to be an obit somewhere behind a paywall ... --Roisterer (talk) 14:02, 14 September 2016 (UTC)
- However, I also found this Charles G. Kilpatrick, complete with a circus poster depicting him riding a bicycle with his one good leg (the other being a stump above the knee). Parents are the same as above, so it must be the same guy with a birthdate discrepancy (not at all uncommon in that era):
- Birth: 17 Aug 1867 - Danville, Vermilion, Illinois, USA
- Death: 30 Sep 1927 - Danville, Vermilion, Illinois, USA
- This one also has a minimalistic Findagrave entry.[5] ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 01:41, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
- However, I also found this Charles G. Kilpatrick, complete with a circus poster depicting him riding a bicycle with his one good leg (the other being a stump above the knee). Parents are the same as above, so it must be the same guy with a birthdate discrepancy (not at all uncommon in that era):
September 15
she's totally not a spy
What's this story? The protagonist is a young woman whose father was a spy, or the like, and taught her the tricks of the trade: how to shake a tail, find a bug, pick a lock. Though these skills are irrelevant to her chosen career, she is forced to apply them when she finds herself entangled in the plot, perhaps by helping someone in danger.
That's all I remember; can't even say whether it was a book, a movie, a webcomic ... —Tamfang (talk) 00:58, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
Song from the 1980's
Greetings my friends. I have been around here for eight years and not as active as I used to be, Regardless, I need help identifying a song someone shared with me last year. I gazed the video on youtube just enough that the basic feel got stuck in my head. Here we go. Certainly an 80's band, but not a huge hit song, at least not in the USA. Female lead singer, male band. It is a band, not a solo artist. I want to think they are Scottish, Irish or British. She has blonde hair, caucasian the video is set at night, a campfire. A bit of a US western theme. Mid tempo song, guitars are not loud. Not punk or hard rock, The drum beat is similar to Aerosmith "Walk This Way" but the song is absolutely nothing like that. A nice flowing love admiration type song, she twirls around Stevie Nicks style. The song is upbeat, a groove but not Motown. I consider my self a guru of music knowledge, so this is driving me insane that I cannot place it. Any help is deeply appreciated. ( it is not the Sundays, etc,) 1980's mid to late. Thanks and cheers 10draftsdeep (talk) 01:25, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
- The Cranberries ? Irish band formed in 1989, female Caucasian singer, male band-mates. Modest success in the US. She alternates her hair between dark and blond.