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* '''Delete'''. I can only find "Wax Jax" used in one soure: ''[[Las Vegas Sun]]'' [https://lasvegassun.com/news/2000/oct/05/at-madame-tussauds-celebrity-worship-is-real-even-/]. It was in reference to a [[wax figure]] of [[Michael Jackson]], as opposed to a short form of "[[Wacko Jacko]]" which I was expecting. This is not even remotely a plausible search term for the subject. [[User:Explicit|<b style="color:#4B0082;">ℯ</b>]][[User talk:Explicit|<span style="color:#483D8B;">xplicit</span>]] 07:19, 18 July 2018 (UTC) |
* '''Delete'''. I can only find "Wax Jax" used in one soure: ''[[Las Vegas Sun]]'' [https://lasvegassun.com/news/2000/oct/05/at-madame-tussauds-celebrity-worship-is-real-even-/]. It was in reference to a [[wax figure]] of [[Michael Jackson]], as opposed to a short form of "[[Wacko Jacko]]" which I was expecting. This is not even remotely a plausible search term for the subject. [[User:Explicit|<b style="color:#4B0082;">ℯ</b>]][[User talk:Explicit|<span style="color:#483D8B;">xplicit</span>]] 07:19, 18 July 2018 (UTC) |
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*'''Delete''' per explicit and the nominator. [[User:Thryduulf|Thryduulf]] ([[User talk:Thryduulf|talk]]) 15:29, 19 July 2018 (UTC) |
Revision as of 15:29, 19 July 2018
July 18
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on July 18, 2018.
Wikipedia:BODYCOUNT
- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
- The result of the discussion was delete. To answer the question in the relist, this one got so little discussion because the nominator stated to see the discussion for WP:MINIMUMDEATHS, which was effective in keeping almost everything in one place. Looking over the other discussion, I count at least two !votes that explicitly wanted to be applied to WP:BODYCOUNT and I did not see anything to suggest that anyone felt differently about WP:MINIMUMDEATHS and WP:BODYCOUNT. To that point, I don't see a reason why this should be open longer than the other one unless we want to ping all the participants of the other discussion and get them to explicitly state their opinion here, which does not seem worth it to me. It probably should have been bundled if someone had the foresight, but I feel it was effectively bundled anyway. All that said, I feel comfortable closing this as delete and I would have closed both at the same time had Amory not beaten me to the punch. -- Tavix (talk) 18:38, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:BODYCOUNT → User:Everymorning/Things that won't get posted to ITN (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
See discussion for WP:MINIMUMDEATHS ---Coffeeandcrumbs 23:35, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
- Delete for the same reasons. I suggest merging the nominations. Modest Genius talk 10:26, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
- Delete unless Everymorning moves the essay to WP space. Currently the redirect gives this the status of an wikipedia essay, whereas its actual location makes it a user essay. These things are different entities, with different levels of individual and/or community authorship. --LukeSurl t c 10:04, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
- Keep - A common practice. Many user essays have shortcuts from projectspace. There is no reason to delete this individual one while allowing all the others to continue existing; they should be handled as a class if there is an overarching problem. See also WP:NOTCENSORED. Anyone who is being deceived by this shortcut is not doing any due diligence, i.e. following the link then assessing the content and standing of the page. — Godsy (TALKCONT) 23:28, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Deryck C. 16:22, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
- Keep As pointed out recently by Ritchie333, there is a community consensus—or at leat acceptance—of allowing mainspace redirects to user essays. —SerialNumber54129 paranoia /cheap sh*t room 13:13, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
Relisting comment: I've just closed Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2018_July_9#WP:MINIMUMDEATHS; I'm not sure why this got so little input compared to that one, so relisting this it appears folks feel at least somewhat differently about it.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ~ Amory (u • t • c) 18:06, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.
Li Chengwan
- Li Chengwan → Syngman Rhee (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
Relisting here because this has been undeleted, see User_talk:Ruslik0/Archive_11#Overturning_very_old_RFD_close. In response to that discussion, while hanja was prominent at that time, that does not justify creating redirects from Mandarin romanizations for this is not a romanization of a Korean spelling, however it does justify creating redirects from the hanja form (we already have 李承晩). - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 12:36, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
- For reference the old discussion referred to is at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2011 May 3#Li Chengwan, nominated by Xiaoyu of Yuxi and was unopposed. Thryduulf (talk) 13:16, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
- Keep. Actually there are precedents such as this redirect to a South Korean singer where the consensus is to keep Pinyin redirects to Korean proper names, provided that there such usage is seen in the wild (usually indicating the Korean subject has significant impact in the Chinese-speaking world) and there is no competing primary topic. This DuckDuckGo search shows that "Li Chengwan" is sometimes used as an English transliterations of the Korean statesman's name, mainly in books about China-Korea relations during the Cold War and transcriptions of library catalog entries of books about Rhee written in Chinese. Deryck C. 15:38, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Tavix (talk) 21:21, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
- Delete per nominator. Not a likely search term. Almost all the GBooks hits come from one author who's self-publishing his books. The other hits are in bibliographies rather than prose, and they give the real English WP:COMMONNAME right there next to the citation. Web hits are largely Wikipedia copies or about unrelated people. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 12:17, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ~ Amory (u • t • c) 17:41, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
Wikipedia:No confidence
- Wikipedia:No confidence → Wikipedia:Requests for de-adminship (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
Totally unrelated to request de-adminship B dash (talk) 10:24, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
- Comment. No, this isn't totally unrelated - having no confidence, or having lost confidence, in an administrator is a reason why they would desysopped if there were such a process. Indeed this page started out as a not-totally unworkable proposal for such a process that was speedily deleted after it was found to be the work of a sock of a banned user (WP:CSD#G5, although not explicitly stated as such). Does this make it a good shortcut, I'm not sure. There also exists Wikipedia:NO CONFIDENCE (in all caps) which redirects to Wikipedia:Declaration of no confidence, a completely separate failed proposal about the same issue (although described as "Administrator recall" on this occasion). Thryduulf (talk) 13:41, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
- Retarget to Wikipedia:Declaration of no confidence because of the alt capitalization. We can add a hatnote if that's considered desirable. —Compassionate727 (T·C) 18:31, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
- Retarget per Compassionate727 which seems the most sensible solution, Certainly makes more sense than the current target. –Davey2010Talk 21:44, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
- Delete because original target not appropriate and Wikipedia:Declaration of no confidence is a failed proposal, and not much better. If you wanted a useful redirect, I'd think it would be to Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. --Bejnar (talk) 22:10, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Tavix (talk) 21:21, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
- Delete per Bejnar. I'm not convinced that the retarget is a good idea, given that all the incoming links consist of canvassing by a banned user for the deleted pre-redirect version of this page, or complaints about that page being tagged. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 12:42, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ~ Amory (u • t • c) 17:39, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
January 2008 stock market downturn
- January 2008 stock market downturn → Great Recession (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
Broken anchor, no where for the redirect to go. The redirect targets Great Recession#January 2008 stock market volatility but there is no mention of anything of that sort occurring in January 2008. There may be somewhere else to redirect this, but I don't know where. For all I know, the redirect title is an entirely false premise. — Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs) 18:56, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
- Comment There used to be an article at this title, which got moved to January 2008 stock market volatility. That title now redirects to United States bear market of 2007–09, which does minimally mention January 2008 (once in the table in the context of the decline from the NASDAQ & S&P 500 peaks in October 2007, and once in a quote about job losses), but doesn't specifically mention a downturn occurring that month. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 01:03, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Tavix (talk) 21:07, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ~ Amory (u • t • c) 17:30, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
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Implausible misspelling. This punctuation does not belong here. � (talk) 13:35, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
- Keep. This was created with an edit summary indicating that it is a common misspelling, and with 92 hits so far this year and 153 last year, it does indeed seem to be commonly used. Thryduulf (talk) 16:06, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ~ Amory (u • t • c) 17:30, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
Brian Gilmartin
Nothing in the target mentions this individual. Onel5969 TT me 18:59, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
- Comment creator of redirect looks like they were going to work on expanding the Incel article. There is mention of a Gilmartin in magazine articles, but if it is not mentioned, it is not going to help anyone. [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 23:19, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
- Keep. I have changed the redirect so that it is now mentioned in the target. Thylacoop5 (talk) 01:12, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
- Note the redirect originally (and at the time of nomination) targetted Incel#Demographics, Thylacoop5 has changed that to Incel#Ideology. A mention of "Brian Gilmartin" was first added to the article on 9 June, in a section called "Members" (there is no longer a section of that name). The extensive editwarring that this article has been subjected to though makes it plausible that there was no mention at the time of nomination. Thryduulf (talk) 09:14, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
- Delete even if an individual is primarily known for their work on a concept, I don't think redirecting the individual to the concept is helpful, particularly in the context of future incoming links which are intended for the individual. Furthermore, the target discusses a particular online subculture, which does not appear to be the focus of Gilmartin's writings. I don't even see evidence that Gilmartin actually used this term (e.g. a GBooks search of Shyness & Love finds zero hits for "incel" or "celibate", and only one for "celibacy", as part of the phrase "vows of celibacy"). 59.149.124.29 (talk) 13:07, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ~ Amory (u • t • c) 17:29, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
Michael Thornton (Medal of Honor)
- Michael Thornton (Medal of Honor) → Michael Thornton (Medal of Honor, awarded 1884) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
To facilitate restoring the article to this title and undo unnecessarily complicated move and rename -- only one "Michael Thornton" has been awarded the MOH; the name of the modern Michael E. Thornton is sufficiently distinct even if renamed to Michael E. Thornton (Medal of Honor) — btphelps (talk to me) (what I've done) 16:35, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
- Retarget to Michael Thornton as {{R from incomplete disambiguation}}. "Only one 'Michael Thornton' has been awarded the MOH" is demonstrably false. --BDD (talk) 17:46, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
- Retarget to Michael Thornton per BDD. The Vietnam War awardee is indeed referred to as "Michael Thornton" (without middle initial, without shortening of given name) in some WP:RS [6]. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 01:30, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
Mary Bowes-Lion
- Mary Bowes-Lion → Mary Elphinstone, Lady Elphinstone (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
Delete: ridiculous made-up name created by indefinitely-blocked sock puppeteer FabianCarpena (talk · contribs). Celia Homeford (talk) 13:50, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
Draft:Scour.net
- Draft:Scour.net → Scour Inc. (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
Meaningless redirect and unsourced Hhkohh (talk) 10:39, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
- Not quite. "Scour" points to general list of pages while the intent of the URL redirect is a link straight to the former P2P service (the URL instead of the name with the legal suffix.) 96.242.88.25 (talk) 11:22, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
- The infobox clearly indicates that the URL was www.Scour.com not Scour.net — wbm1058 (talk) 01:09, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
Typhoon Son-Tinh (2018)
- Typhoon Son-Tinh (2018) → 2018 Pacific typhoon season (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
Son-Tinh in 2018 never reached typhoon status B dash (talk) 08:37, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
Wax Jax
No mention of Wax Jax on target page: no evidence that this is a useful redirect Akhiljaxxn (talk) 06:49, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
- Delete. I can only find "Wax Jax" used in one soure: Las Vegas Sun [7]. It was in reference to a wax figure of Michael Jackson, as opposed to a short form of "Wacko Jacko" which I was expecting. This is not even remotely a plausible search term for the subject. ℯxplicit 07:19, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
- Delete per explicit and the nominator. Thryduulf (talk) 15:29, 19 July 2018 (UTC)