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**Your lack of knowledge in regards to the US gov undermines your point. (Sec of State follows the Speaker of the House and Pres pro tem of the Senate). [[User:DC|<font style="color: #002664">'''''~DC'''''</font>]] <sub>[[User talk:DC|<font color="#BB133E" face="Tahoma"><b>Let's Vent</b></font>]]</sub> 03:27, 6 August 2010 (UTC) |
**Your lack of knowledge in regards to the US gov undermines your point. (Sec of State follows the Speaker of the House and Pres pro tem of the Senate). [[User:DC|<font style="color: #002664">'''''~DC'''''</font>]] <sub>[[User talk:DC|<font color="#BB133E" face="Tahoma"><b>Let's Vent</b></font>]]</sub> 03:27, 6 August 2010 (UTC) |
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***Well, I'm sorry, but like most of the world, I'm not part of your country, so for me, like most people, Elena Kagan is as relevant as [[Gustavo Madero Muñoz|Gustavo Madero]]. Instead of implying that the Unites States is the best country in the world because its the only democracy on it, while there are no people in the other tyrannical dictatorships, please explain me what is the ITN-worthy deal with Elena Kagan. Is she the leader of the Senate? Then all countries with presidential systems should be posted in ITN when the equivalent post is changed. <span style="font-weight:bold">[[User:Fixman|Fixman]] ([[User_Talk:Fixman|talk!]])</span> 03:50, 6 August 2010 (UTC) |
***Well, I'm sorry, but like most of the world, I'm not part of your country, so for me, like most people, Elena Kagan is as relevant as [[Gustavo Madero Muñoz|Gustavo Madero]]. Instead of implying that the Unites States is the best country in the world because its the only democracy on it, while there are no people in the other tyrannical dictatorships, please explain me what is the ITN-worthy deal with Elena Kagan. Is she the leader of the Senate? Then all countries with presidential systems should be posted in ITN when the equivalent post is changed. <span style="font-weight:bold">[[User:Fixman|Fixman]] ([[User_Talk:Fixman|talk!]])</span> 03:50, 6 August 2010 (UTC) |
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****Let's not turn this into another pro vs anti-American argument. That won't benefit any of us and I'm pretty sure that wasn't the point DC was trying to make. As I understand it (as an Englishman, so correct me, anyone, if I'm wrong), she was the solicitor general of the US (which is a fairly significant but not high-profile government position) and is now a SCOTUS justice, I ''believe'' Obama's first. These kinds of appointments aren't made that often and there's always a big song and dance about them and SCOTUS is a ''very'' powerful court- much more so than comparable institutions in other countries, like the [[UK Supreme Court]], for example, so appointments to it are quite significant. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<font color="Teal" face="Tahoma">'''HJ Mitchell'''</font>]] | [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<font color="Navy" face= "Times New Roman">Penny for your thoughts? </font>]] 04:14, 6 August 2010 (UTC) |
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*'''Posting'''. Been a long time since a update (I don't consider bumping Pakistan refreshing the template) and Kagan's article is about as updated as it can get until she is sworn in. [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] ([[User talk:Courcelles|talk]]) 03:33, 6 August 2010 (UTC) |
*'''Posting'''. Been a long time since a update (I don't consider bumping Pakistan refreshing the template) and Kagan's article is about as updated as it can get until she is sworn in. [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] ([[User talk:Courcelles|talk]]) 03:33, 6 August 2010 (UTC) |
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August 6
Armed conflicts and incidents
- NATO admits it killed "between four and a dozen or more civilians" in Nangarhar Province as a result of air strikes on August 5. (The Sydney Morning Herald) (The New York Times)
- Germany offers compensation of €3,800 to each family of 91 of the 142 people it killed and 11 it injured in an air strike near Kunduz, an incident which provoked outrage and led to political and military resignations. The Bundeswehr does not admit guilt and families say they may sue. (BBC) (Der Spiegel)
- Pakistan's Major-General Tariq Khan urges NATO to do more to control the border with Afghanistan, amid increasing UK and U.S. pressure for Pakistan to deal with it. (BBC)
- Israeli authorities shut down all crossings into Gaza for the day. (Bernama)
- An international aid ship, the Saint Mariam, bearing only female passengers from all backgrounds, including singer May Hariri and several Americans, is to leave Tripoli bound for Gaza after overcoming an Israeli diplomatic mission designed to prevent it from setting sail. (The Guardian)
- The United Arab Emirates says the incident in which the Japanese tanker, the MV M. Star, was damaged in the Strait of Hormuz near Oman last week involved an explosives-laden dinghy. (Aljazeera) (BBC) (Emirates News Agency) (AFP)
- An explosion at Zamboanga International Airport in the southern Philippines kills two people and injures 24. (BBC) (Philippine Inquirer)
- French police dismantle Romani camps in Saint-Étienne by order of the president. (BBC) (Expatica France) (The Irish Times)
Arts and culture
- Reykjavík's mayor, Jón Gnarr of the Best Party, dresses in drag for the opening of the city's gay pride festival. (BBC) (The Daily Telegraph)
- Chinese culture minister Cai Wu expresses dismay at the quality of cultural productions in his country. (China Daily) (France24)[permanent dead link] (BBC) (The Daily Telegraph) (Reuters)
Business and economy
- Vladimir Putin, the Prime Minister of Russia, bans export of flour and wheat from August 15 to December 31 due to the worst drought in Russian history. (Reuters)
- A 22-year-old Chinese woman falls from a building, becoming the thirteenth Foxconn employee to die in a spate of deaths at the company. (BBC)
- The Tata Group establishes a five-man panel in the search for Ratan Naval Tata's successor as its head of business. (BBC) (NDTV) (The Asian Age)
- Mark Hurd resigns as chief executive officer of computer company Hewlett-Packard following investigation of a sexual harassment claim. (AP via ABC America) (BBC)
Disasters
- At least 12 million people are now affected by the worst floods in the history of Pakistan with 1,600 people being killed and 650,000 homes being destroyed. (Aljazeera) (BBC) (Sky News) (The Irish Times)
- Flash floods in the Ladakh region of India's Jammu and Kashmir state kill at least 113 people and leave lots of others missing. (Aljazeera) (The Times of India)
- Rescue efforts continue to save 34 people trapped in a mine after a rock collapse near Copiapó. (BBC) (Reuters via Mineweb) (Mining Weekly)
- China suspends traffic on the Yalu River and evacuates more than 40,000 people from Dandong over fears of flooding amid unprecedented levels of rainfall. (BBC) (BusinessWeek)
- Smoke from Russian wildfires covers famous landmarks and delays more than 140 flights at Moscow airports while official figures indicate that 14,340 people died in Moscow during July 2010; 4,824 more than the same month last year. (Sky News) (Bloomberg) (The Guardian)
- Mount Karangetang, a volcano on the Indonesian island of Siau, erupts. (AP via Seattle PI)
International relations
- Hiroshima marks the 65th anniversary of the world's first atomic bomb attack; United States representatives attend in an official capacity for the first time. (BBC) (The Age) (The New Zealand Herald)[permanent dead link] (China Post)
- Venezuela's Hugo Chávez promises that his foreign minister will attend the inauguration of Juan Manuel Santos as Colombian president, two weeks after direct relations between the two countries were broken off, thanks to mediation efforts by President of Brazil Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva. (BBC)
- South Africa recalls its ambassador to Rwanda. (BBC) (iAfrica) (Reuters Africa) (The Mercury)
- It is impossible that Abdelbaset al-Megrahi could have pretended to have terminal prostate cancer, according to an oncologist who examined him. (BBC)
- Britain's High Commission in Colombo lifts travel advice restrictions on Sri Lanka for the first time in approximately 30 years. (BBC) (Daily Mail)
- Asif Ali Zardari and David Cameron meeting:
- After meeting Pakistani President Zardari at Chequers UK Prime Minister Cameron speaks of an "unbreakable" friendship between Britain and Pakistan in his attempts to recover from remarks he made about Pakistan's alleged promotion of terrorism. (BBC)
- Zardari reiterates his desire to combat terrorism and says he has secured a deal with Britain to lobby the European Union for funds for a "Marshall Plan" to rebuild Pakistan and Afghanistan. (The Guardian) (BBC)
Law and crime
- Saudi Arabia BlackBerry ban:
- Saudi Arabia's ban of online functions on BlackBerry mobile phones is implemented. (BBC)
- BlackBerry devices can be used again now across the country following a four-hour outage earlier today. (BBC)
- Thousands of people attend the public flagellation of 5 people in Aceh amid requests that the practice be banned. (BBC)
- A 25-year-old Bosnian immigrant is arraigned in a Brooklyn United States District Court for involvement in an alleged terrorist plot to blow up New York City's subway system. (CNN)
- Jeremy Ractliffe, former head of the Nelson Mandela Children's Fund, admits he kept possible blood diamonds to protect the reputations of Mandela, Naomi Campbell and the fund but that he gave them to South African police and is willing to testify at Charles Taylor's trial. (The Guardian)
- At least 14 people are killed during a prison riot in Matamoros in the Mexican state of Tamaulipas. (BBC)
- Sakineh Mohammadi Ashtiani, sentenced to death in Iran, speaks out, saying Iran is "desperately trying to distract attention and confuse the media so that they can kill me in secret". (The Guardian)
- Police near Colombo arrest a suspected fraudster for whom they had previously appealed to Interpol; it is unknown if he denies the charges brought against him. (BBC)
- A woman is arrested following the discovery of baby corpses stored inside four suitcases in her attic in Nij Beets, Friesland. (BBC) (news.com.au) (Reuters) (Sky News)
- The Governor of California Arnold Schwarzenegger files a motion calling for same-sex marriages to resume in the U.S. state immediately. (AFP via The Age)
Politics
- The Pentagon makes a demand to Wikileaks that it remove its collection of classified military documents from the internet. (Aljazeera) (BBC) (Reuters)
- Brazil's four main presidential election candidates participate in their first televised debate. (BBC)
- Musician Wyclef Jean files his papers in his bid to become President of Haiti. (BBC)
- Pál Schmitt takes office as President of Hungary, succeeding outgoing president László Sólyom. (Politics.hu)
- Bronisław Komorowski is officially sworn in as President of Poland, following the death of President Lech Kaczyński in a plane crash in April. (Aljazeera) (BBC)
- Nepalese politicians unsuccessfully attempt to elect a new prime minister for the fourth time; they will try again on 18 August. (BBC)
- Swaziland's justice minister and senator Ndumiso Mamba resigns from both positions over allegations of an affair with a wife of King Mswati III; the wife has denied the allegations. (BBC) (Times LIVE) (IOL)[permanent dead link] (The Guardian)
Science
- According to scientists, one million little brown bats (Myotis lucifugus) have contracted white nose syndrome (WNS) and died in North America. (BBC)
- U.S. scientists plan to rotate the Confederate submarine, the H. L. Hunley, buried in the outer harbour of Charleston, South Carolina so that they can examine it more closely. (AP via Google News)
- American scientists announce an ice sheet has broken from Greenland's Petermann Glacier. (BBC) (The Guardian)
Sport
- Usain Bolt is professionally defeated for only the second time in the 100 metres by Tyson Gay in Stockholm. (BBC Sport) (The Guardian) (The Daily Telegraph) (The Independent)
ITN candidates for August 6
Kagan confirmed
The U.S. Senate votes to confirm Elena Kagan as an associate justice on the U.S. Supreme Court.
- When Obama nominated Kagan, people said, "Wait for her to be confirmed." Well, now she's confirmed. To remind everyone: In U.S. politics, new Supreme Court justices are huge since they serve for life (Kagan might serve until 2045) and have such a big impact on the national life. The Supreme Court is responsible for the legalization of abortion and birth control, the racial desegregation of schools, Miranda rights, limits on capital punishment, the legalization of what other countries call "hate speech," the ban on school-sponsored prayer in schools and George W. Bush's victory in the 2000 presidential election, among countless other things. When Obama nominated Kagan on May 10, her article got 420,800 hits. I said we should put it in ITN then, but others disagreed, so we should put her confirmation on ITN now. -- Mwalcoff (talk) 01:37, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
- Assuming this means she will undoubtedly take the position, then support per the previous consensus that this should be posted when it's final. Out of curiosity, how often are new members of SCOTUS appointed? HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 01:55, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
- The president picks them and the Senate votes to confirm them. Some people say this is the president's most-important power other than having the finger on the nuclear button. -- Mwalcoff (talk) 02:05, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
- I was more wondering how often this happens (mainly out of curiosity, it doesn't affect my opinion). HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 02:15, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
- The president picks them and the Senate votes to confirm them. Some people say this is the president's most-important power other than having the finger on the nuclear button. -- Mwalcoff (talk) 02:05, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
- Assuming this means she will undoubtedly take the position, then support per the previous consensus that this should be posted when it's final. Out of curiosity, how often are new members of SCOTUS appointed? HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 01:55, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support per both of the aboves. ~DC Let's Vent 02:06, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support per nom--Wikireader41 (talk) 02:11, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
- support per previous agreement of posting this when she is confirmed. -- Ashish-g55 02:15, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
- Well the consensus is rapidly forming here. Has the article been updated? HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 02:20, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
- I added some more information. ~DC Let's Vent 02:37, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
- It might be better to add some prose to Elena Kagan Supreme Court nomination, since that article seems more detailed. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 02:47, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
- I added some more information. ~DC Let's Vent 02:37, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
- Well the consensus is rapidly forming here. Has the article been updated? HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 02:20, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
- Strong support YellowMonkey (vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll) 02:39, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose I don't really get why this item is ITN-worthy. Is she the forth in line in the US government, after the President, Vice-President and Secretary of State? In that case, why we don't post items like the begging of the Union Cabinet Secretary of India? Fixman (talk!) 03:21, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
- Your lack of knowledge in regards to the US gov undermines your point. (Sec of State follows the Speaker of the House and Pres pro tem of the Senate). ~DC Let's Vent 03:27, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
- Well, I'm sorry, but like most of the world, I'm not part of your country, so for me, like most people, Elena Kagan is as relevant as Gustavo Madero. Instead of implying that the Unites States is the best country in the world because its the only democracy on it, while there are no people in the other tyrannical dictatorships, please explain me what is the ITN-worthy deal with Elena Kagan. Is she the leader of the Senate? Then all countries with presidential systems should be posted in ITN when the equivalent post is changed. Fixman (talk!) 03:50, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
- Let's not turn this into another pro vs anti-American argument. That won't benefit any of us and I'm pretty sure that wasn't the point DC was trying to make. As I understand it (as an Englishman, so correct me, anyone, if I'm wrong), she was the solicitor general of the US (which is a fairly significant but not high-profile government position) and is now a SCOTUS justice, I believe Obama's first. These kinds of appointments aren't made that often and there's always a big song and dance about them and SCOTUS is a very powerful court- much more so than comparable institutions in other countries, like the UK Supreme Court, for example, so appointments to it are quite significant. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 04:14, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
- Well, I'm sorry, but like most of the world, I'm not part of your country, so for me, like most people, Elena Kagan is as relevant as Gustavo Madero. Instead of implying that the Unites States is the best country in the world because its the only democracy on it, while there are no people in the other tyrannical dictatorships, please explain me what is the ITN-worthy deal with Elena Kagan. Is she the leader of the Senate? Then all countries with presidential systems should be posted in ITN when the equivalent post is changed. Fixman (talk!) 03:50, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
- Your lack of knowledge in regards to the US gov undermines your point. (Sec of State follows the Speaker of the House and Pres pro tem of the Senate). ~DC Let's Vent 03:27, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
- Posting. Been a long time since a update (I don't consider bumping Pakistan refreshing the template) and Kagan's article is about as updated as it can get until she is sworn in. Courcelles (talk) 03:33, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
Pakistan floods bump
I suggest bumping the Pakistan floods back to the top. The disaster is clearly ongoing (getting worse, even), it's still in the headlines and the article is continuing to be updated. Besides, when was the last time we had an ITN item on over 1,000 deaths? HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 00:13, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support this is worse than initially thought.--Wikireader41 (talk) 01:00, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
- January with Haiti lol. but yes support for bumping it up if there is some actual update to blurb atleast. -- Ashish-g55 01:50, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
- Any good suggestions for the blurb? Obviously we don't want to just move the same one a bit further up the template! HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 01:52, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
- BBC... Worst flooding in Pakistan's history kills over 1600 people and affects 4 million... something similar to that? -- Ashish-g55 02:00, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
- Bloody hell, 1600? Our article will need updating then, since it's currently saying 1100. Anyway, we're in need of an update and this seems uncontroversial, so I'll update with that blurb. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 02:08, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
- BBC... Worst flooding in Pakistan's history kills over 1600 people and affects 4 million... something similar to that? -- Ashish-g55 02:00, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
- Any good suggestions for the blurb? Obviously we don't want to just move the same one a bit further up the template! HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 01:52, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
- January with Haiti lol. but yes support for bumping it up if there is some actual update to blurb atleast. -- Ashish-g55 01:50, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
Support. I was just going to suggest this myself since the death toll is rather large, it has affected millions of people (UN figure) and this is still being reported every day. --candle•wicke 04:11, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
Kagan & Prop 8
Outside of the oil spill and immigration laws... The Prop 8 overturn and Kagan's approval to the Supreme Court are the two biggest news stories in the country right now. They NEED to be on the mainpage. Altarboy420 (talk) 01:42, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
- You do realize we're not all Americans, right? America is a very small part of the world, and those are both purely domestic politics. Courcelles (talk) 01:45, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
- they NEED to be on main page? did you bother to scroll down and see the prop 8 nomination and all the comments under it? -- Ashish-g55 01:48, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
- Wtf? They don't need to be on the Main Page. This is the English-language Wikipedia, not Yankeepedia! I'm not one of those anti-American nutters, but some people need to realise that the world doesn't revolve around America and posts like this nom, quite frankly, make my blood boil. Fuck consensus, fuck the rest of the world and 6 billion people who inhabit it, this is America, so it needs to be on the Main Page! HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 01:51, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
- Take it easy, pal. Wikiediting is supposed to be fun. Come back after a KitKat or sth....
- Anyway, ITN needs nothing. When there is a well updated article related to big news around the world, we feature it. If we are not sure if it's big enough news internationally, we don't feature it. There should be no big deal. --PFHLai (talk) 01:59, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
- Wtf? They don't need to be on the Main Page. This is the English-language Wikipedia, not Yankeepedia! I'm not one of those anti-American nutters, but some people need to realise that the world doesn't revolve around America and posts like this nom, quite frankly, make my blood boil. Fuck consensus, fuck the rest of the world and 6 billion people who inhabit it, this is America, so it needs to be on the Main Page! HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 01:51, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
- they NEED to be on main page? did you bother to scroll down and see the prop 8 nomination and all the comments under it? -- Ashish-g55 01:48, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
August 5
Armed conflicts and incidents
- South Korea begins a huge anti-submarine exercise in the Yellow Sea, near the disputed maritime border, in what it sees as a show of strength against North Korea and "to be fully prepared for combat"; North Korea disapproves of the exercise. (BBC) (The Jakarta Post) (Reuters) (The Sydney Morning Herald) (The Times of India)
- 33 Chilean miners are trapped 700 meters underground at the beginning of a 69 day odyssey in the Copiapó mining accident.
- At least 25 or 32 Afghans, including civilians, are killed by NATO airstrikes in Nangarhar Province, many bombed by NATO planes while attending the funeral of a flood victim; relatives are displeased. (BBC) (France24)[permanent dead link] (The New York Times)
- At least 17 more people are killed during a third day of violence in Karachi, with police given orders to shoot on sight as buildings burn. Current death toll: At least 80. (BBC)
- Kyrgyzstan:
- Troops in Bishkek fire shots as protesters travel to support Urmat Baryktabasov, an opposition politician who arrived back in Kyrgyzstan from overseas. (BBC) (UPI)
- Tear gas is fired and 27 people, including Baryktabasov, are arrested. (France24) (China Daily)
- At least six Afghan policemen are killed during a suicide attack in Kunduz, by the Tajikistan border. (BBC) (The Asian Age) (IOL)[permanent dead link]
- Somali pirates seized a Syrian freighter flagged in Saint Vincent and the Grenadines carrying sugar with 24 crew (22 Syrian and 2 Egyptian) in the Gulf of Aden. (AFP)
- Israel releases the MV Mavi Marmara, the aid ship which it impounded after killing nine activists during May's Gaza flotilla raid. (BBC) (Arab News) (Indian Express) (The Sydney Morning Herald)
Arts and culture
- A Salvador Dalí exhibition in Atlanta, United States, is to feature items from Canada, Japan and Scotland. (BBC) (The Christian Science Monitor)
- A piano which Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart is thought to have played is discovered in Baden-Baden, Baden-Württemberg. (The Age)
- A world-class example of a 17th-century ship's pass - dating from 1687 and signed by King James II and Samuel Pepys - is presented to the National Library of Ireland. (RTÉ)
- Russian pianist, conductor and composer Mikhail Pletnev cancels some appearances while he deals with accusations that he raped a 14-year-old boy in Thailand. (BBC)
Business and economics
- The Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) sacks Ndi Okereke-Onyuike, the director-general of the Nigerian Stock Exchange and suspends its chairman, Aliko Dangote. (BBC)
- Taiwan and Singapore agree to hold talks on a free trade deal. (Focus Taiwan News Channel) (Financial Times) (Xinhua) (BBC)
- Pham Thanh Binh, the former boss of Vinashin, one of Vietnam's largest state-owned companies, is arrested on suspicion of nearly bankrupting the company. (BBC)
Disasters
- The United Nations states more than four million people are now affected by the most severe flooding in Pakistan's history, while the death toll rises to at least 1,600. (Aljazeera) (BBC)
- A Russian military garrison near Naro-Fominsk outside Moscow moves its artillery rockets to a safer location as the wildfires get nearer. (AP via Google News)
- At least 20 people die after a bus falls into the Jhelum River in Pakistan controlled Kashmir. (Peoples Daily)
- 18 children die after their boat capsizes on the Tanzanian side of Lake Victoria. (News Limited)
- BP is authorized to pump cement into the Deepwater Horizon oil spill site after a successful "static kill" procedure with drilling mud. (CNN)
International relations
- The Pacific Islands Forum meets in Vanuatu and discusses the situation in Fiji. (AFP via Google News)
- Syrian Foreign Minister Walid Muallem sends a letter to Secretary-General of the United Nations Ban Ki-moon in which he writes charges against three Israelis charged with spying for Syria are "baseless" and "fabricated". (Haaretz)
- Prime Minister of the United Kingdom David Cameron commits another gaffe - with an erroneous statement that Iran possesses a nuclear weapon - just after apologising to an angered pensioner for his previous gaffe about the Battle of Britain. (BBC) (news.com.au) (The Guardian) (Sky News)
Law and crime
- Model Naomi Campbell gives evidence that she received several "dirty looking stones" after meeting the former President of Liberia Charles Taylor in his trial at the United Nations Special Court for Sierra Leone. (The Guardian) (Aljazeera) (BBC)
- A Polish appellate court upholds the decision of a lower court to extradite an alleged Mossad agent to Germany to face trial for forging a passport used in the slaying of Hamas commander Mahmoud al-Mabhouh in Dubai. (AP via Google News) (BBC) (Press TV) (Haaretz)
- Israel charges three Arab men with spying for Syria; they deny the charges and one is alleged to be a human rights activist.[clarification needed] (BBC)
- A woman who is alleged to have been raped by two police officers appears on Egyptian television where she is interviewed about the experience. (BBC)
- Supporters of California Proposition 8 banning same-sex marriage lodge an appeal against the decision of United States district court Vaughn R. Walker overturning it. (CNN)
- The Supreme Court of Justice of the Nation upholds as constitutional a law allowing same-sex marriages in Mexico City. (BBC) (France24)
- British police issue an apology after one of them shot a 14-year-old female bystander with a Taser, sending an electric shock through her body. (BBC)
- Reported Japanese child abuse reaches its highest level since records were first taken a decade ago. (BBC) (The Age)
- Brazilian police discover a Rio de Janeiro prison is being run by some of the inmates; a guard is arrested. (BBC)
- The U.S. Government charges 14 people as participants in "a deadly pipeline" sending money and fighters from the United States to the Somalian insurgency group Al-Shabaab. (AP via Google News) (BBC)
Politics
- Kenyan constitutional referendum, 2010:
- Preliminary results of the referendum on the new Constitution of Kenya show it has passed with 67 per cent of the vote following a peaceful election. (Aljazeera)
- Those campaigning against the new Constitution concede defeat. (BBC)
- Rwanda:
- The Rwandan government denies in a statement that it has been responsible for the deaths of any political opponents. (BBC)
- Rwandan Foreign Minister Louise Mushikiwabo says the country is "committed to free expression" but that it does not favour "hate media". (IOL)
- Former Prime Minister of Australia Kevin Rudd joins Julia Gillard's election campaign while recovering from gallbladder surgery by attacking the opposition leader Tony Abbott. (BBC)
- The Ivorian presidential election, 2010 is set for 31 October. (BBC)
- Musician Wyclef Jean formally registers to stand for the presidency of Haiti. (BBC) (Aljazeera)
- The United States Senate confirms the nomination of Elena Kagan as an associate justice of the U.S. Supreme Court. (CNN)
Science
- Newly released files, which can be freely downloaded for the next month, show that the British government felt threatened by UFOs in the 1950s and that Winston Churchill and Dwight D. Eisenhower ordered the cover-up of one unexplained encounter. (BBC) (France24)[permanent dead link] (News24) (Reuters) (The Times of India)
Sports
- Anil Khanna, treasurer of the 2010 Commonwealth Games in Delhi, resigns the position due to corrupt allegations. (BBC Sport)
- Uruguay striker and 2010 FIFA World Cup player of the tournament Diego Forlán is a popular attraction among the inhabitants of Kolkata as he participates in a talent search. (BBC News)
- In United States baseball, a group led by Nolan Ryan buys the Texas Rangers at a bankruptcy auction. (MSNBC)
ITN candidates for August 5
The BP plugs the oil hole in the Gulf
It's finally done. Most of the oil is gone too. [1]--Everyone Dies In the End (talk) 03:31, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
- A few things we can add is it's been open for 106 days, 4.9 million barrels (575 million litres) of oil was lost, and the explosion that caused it killed 11 workers.--Everyone Dies In the End (talk) 03:35, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
- support as we always said we will post it one last time once its finally over. -- Ashish-g55 13:02, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
- Is this it? As in, they're as certain as can reasonably be that it's all over? HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 14:28, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose It isn't over. They've plugged the hole—meaning they can now begin to drill the relief well, which will plug it permenantly. WackyWace converse | contribs 18:16, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
- support as we always said we will post it one last time once its finally over. -- Ashish-g55 13:02, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose The source given states that finishing the relief wells in mid-August is what 'seals the well permanently'. MickMacNee (talk) 16:40, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
Kashmir fighting
Seems fighting is in a surge in Indian Kashmir. http://ibnlive.in.com/news/kashmirs-cycle-of-violence-claims-47th-victim/128228-3.html --DAI (Δ) 11:45, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
August 4
Armed conflicts and attacks
- About 70 Indian police personnel are reported missing in Chhattisgarh forests amid a major engagement with Maoist guerrillas; they are later found. No casualties have been reported. (The Times of India) (BBC) (Aljazeera)
- Lebanon arrests a man it suspects has spied for Israel. (Aljazeera)
- Israeli shellfire kills a Palestinian militant and wounds 1 other in Khan Yunis in the Gaza Strip as the search gets underway for further casualties. (Reuters)
- Corpses belonging to 59 migrants are located in a desert in the U.S. state of Arizona. (BBC)
- Police in Karachi arrest suspects in its investigation into a recent assassination, as the death toll in riots reaches 63. (BBC)
- At least 6 people are killed and around 50 others are injured in twin car bombings in Kut. (BBC)
- A suicide attack kills 4 people, a paramilitary commander Sifwat Ghuyur and three bodyguards, in Peshawar. (Aljazeera) (Reuters via ABC Online) (BBC)
- Adaisseh incident:
- The United Nations Peacekeeping Forces assert that Israeli soldiers were attacked in Israeli territory while performing routine maintenance, leading to yesterday's deadly clash. (Boston Herald)[permanent dead link]
- The United Nations Security Council agrees that Israel and Lebanon must show "utmost restraint" following the clash. (BBC)
- Hezbollah's second in command Naim Qassem warns that the organisation will "retaliate" against Israel if there are further incidents. (AFP via Google News)
- The Prime Minister of Israel Benjamin Netanyahu warns both Hamas and Lebanon about further attacks on Israelis. (Jerusalem Post)
- A Lebanese government official confirms that Israel was not in violation of international law. (ANSAmed)
- Israeli troops uproot the very trees that caused the dispute. (Brisbane Times)
- Officials say more than 28,000 people have died in Mexican drug violence since December 2006, thousands more than previously thought. (BBC)
- India expresses deep regret that its police had to kill at least 28 people this week in Kashmir, with its Home Affairs Minister requesting that protesters stop. (BBC)
- New Zealand experiences its first combat fatality in Afghanistan; he was also the country's first military death in fighting anywhere for a decade. (BBC) (The New Zealand Herald) (The Washington Post)
- A man found dead in forest near Trongsa is thought to have been killed by a tiger, possibly Bhutan's first such death in 15 years. (BBC)
- A controlled explosion is carried out on a device discovered beneath the car of a serving soldier, believed to be an army major, in Bangor, County Down in Northern Ireland. (The Guardian)
Arts, culture and entertainment
- A vault containing non-words - those rejected by the Oxford English Dictionary - is uncovered. (The Daily Telegraph)
- Sharers of the Radiohead album In Rainbows, once offered by the band for nothing, are sent cease-and-desist letters by the RIAA and IFPI. (The Guardian)
- Musician Wyclef Jean confirms he is to announce plans to stand for the presidency in Haiti. (BBC)
Disasters
- 2010 Pakistan floods:
- Nearly 1 million people are estimated to have been left homeless during the ongoing severe floods in Pakistan. (The Guardian)
- Thousands of people flee their homes in Punjab due to flood fears. (Aljazeera)
- Rain falls, causing more damage. (BBC)
- The United Nations World Food Programme warns that parts of northwest Pakistan are facing urgent food shortages. (Sky News)
- The Disasters Emergency Committee launches its appeal for donations. (BBC)
- Summer 2010 Russian wildfires:
- President of Russia Dmitry Medvedev interrupts his summer holiday to return and fire several top military officials after wildfires destroy a naval base outside Moscow. (BBC) (Aljazeera)
- At a meeting of the national Security Council Medvedev states: "By no means you may allow anarchy [...] You must not let the situation go out of local authorities' control". (Xinhua)
- The confirmed death toll from flooding in China rises above 1,000. (Associated Press)
- Eurotunnel has "apologised profusely" after train passengers brought to Calais, France, through the Channel Tunnel are locked into their carriages upon arrival and immediately returned to Kent, England. (The Guardian)
- Three barns collapse at the largest egg farm in the U.S. state of Ohio in Croton, with at least one worker dead. (AP via Houston Chronicle)
- Admiral Thad Allen, the man in charge of the US Government's efforts to clear up the Deepwater Horizon oil spill, has given clearance for BP to pour cement into its Gulf of Mexico oil well. (Reuters)
International relations
- The Pacific Islands Forum discusses Fiji in Vanuatu. (BBC) (The Sydney Morning Herald)
Law and crime
- Theresa Riggi stabs her three children to death and attempts suicide.
- Vaughn R. Walker, the Chief Judge of the United States District Court for the Northern District of California, rules in Perry v. Schwarzenegger that California Proposition 8 banning same-sex marriage in California is unconstitutional. (Los Angeles Times) (Reuters via New York Times) (CNN) (BBC)
- A journalist with The Sunday Times is arrested in South Africa.[clarification needed] (News24) (The Sowetan) (Times LIVE) (iAfrica)
- A man with a knife embarks on a fatal slashing rampage in a kindergarten in Zibo, Shandong. (The Sydney Morning Herald) (BBC)
- The prison sentence of Sabbar Kashur, a married Arab man convicted by Israel of "rape by deception" after telling the accuser that he's Jewish and single, is delayed as he attempts an appeal. (The Guardian) (Haaretz)
- Canadian Abdullah Khadr, charged with terrorism by the United States and jailed in Canada since 2005, is released from prison after a Canadian judge declines an extradition attempt by the United States. (Aljazeera)
- Mohamed Mostafaei, an Iranian lawyer who defended convicted adulterer Sakineh Mohammadi Ashtiani, is reported to be in Turkey, seeking asylum. (BBC) (France24)[permanent dead link]
- A decision by Malacca to allow under-age marriage is criticised by groups of women. (BBC) (Reuters) (The Sydney Morning Herald)
Politics and elections
- President of Iran Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's trip to Hamedan:
- Ahmadinejad announces in Hamedan that Iran is ready to start talks this month about a possible nuclear fuel swap. (Xinhua)
- Ahmadinejad denies rumors that he survived an assassination attempt while in Hamedan, and claims that a customary firecracker was set off to greet him. (Xinhua) (The Guardian) (BBC) (AFP via News Limited) (Press TV)
- Fidel Castro is expected to address the Cuban national assembly on Saturday for the first time in four years; his speech is anticipated to talk of a possible nuclear war involving the United States, Israel and Iran. (The Daily Telegraph) (BBC) (The Star)
- Kenyans head to the polls to decide the fate of a potential new constitution. (Aljazeera) (BBC) (Reuters) (CNN)
- Prime Minister of Italy Silvio Berlusconi survives a no-confidence vote. (BBC) (The Guardian) (Aljazeera) (France24) (The Irish Times)
- Dokka Umarov denies he has quit as head of Chechnya's armed separatist group. (Aljazeera)
- Cabinet formation in the Netherlands: Ivo Opstelten, the chairman of the People's Party for Freedom and Democracy, is appointed the new informateur, tasked with finalizing the formation of a right-wing minority coalition cabinet. (NOS)
- U.S. Rep. Don Young R-Alaska claims that he has been cleared in a United States Department of Justice corruption probe. (AP via Google News)
Sport
- 10,000 people arrive in Cologne for the opening ceremony of the 2010 Gay Games. (The Guardian)
- Surrey defeat Glamorgan by 39 runs on the Duckworth–Lewis method to achieve a world record for the highest score in 40-over cricket in the CB 40 at The Oval. (BBC Sport) (The Daily Telegraph) (Sky Sports)
- Alex Rodriguez of the New York Yankees becomes the seventh player in the history of Major League Baseball to hit 600 home runs. (The New York Times)
ITN candidates for August 4
From the current events section above
- Ahmadinejad denies rumors that he survived an assassination attempt If only it were nearer April 1st: what a brilliantly mis-phrased headline. Kevin McE (talk) 22:17, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
Death of Godfrey Binaisa
Former Ugandan President Godfrey Binaisa has died at the age of 90. Former head of state. Article needs an update, but I won't be able to do so, I'm having computer troubles. Connormahtalk 18:13, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
- I'm inclined to oppose. The death of a head of state isn't ITN/R so it's a case-by-case thing. The guy was an appointed provisional President who served for less than a year. --Mkativerata (talk) 19:00, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
- I'm neutral, possibly leaning towards weak support. The death of a former head of state is significant and we have posted the majority in recent months, but then he wasn't in office for long. He was only the 5th President of Uganda. I'm torn. Either way, the article could will need some work. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 21:49, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support since he served as a president. --candle•wicke 23:49, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose. Idi Amin's death I would support had he held out until now, since he's world famous. Merely serving as a head of state in a country not generally in the news doesn't make someone extraordinarily notable for ITN purposes. The kind of 1980-era state leader whose death should be on ITN: Daniel arap Moi, Malcolm Fraser, Valéry Giscard d'Estaing, Margaret Thatcher, Joe Clark, Fidel Castro, Jimmy Carter. -- Mwalcoff (talk) 01:19, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
- I'm playing devil's advocate more than anything else, but I believe we posted an American civil servant of some sort who served as POTUS for a few minutes. Can't for the life of me remember his name, though. Also, Uganda doesn't often make the news in the Anglosphere, but that's more because of systemic bias than because nothing newsworthy happens there. While we shouldn't post items just to be appearing to counter systemic bias, we shouldn't let it stand in the way of valid items. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 01:44, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
- As I've said before, I don't think ITN is the place to fight the world's systemic bias. ITN is the place to feature quality Wikipedia content that is of interest to a lot of readers and is literally "in the news." Maybe in an ideal world, people would care as much about this guy as they did about Gerald Ford (who actually had quite a bit of a career before becoming president), but the fact is those most likely to read this Wikipedia don't, and the content reflects that. Plus, with 200 or so states and quasi-states in the world, if merely being a head of state qualified for a death listing on ITN, we'd have such deaths on ITN all the time. -- Mwalcoff (talk) 03:03, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
- I'm playing devil's advocate more than anything else, but I believe we posted an American civil servant of some sort who served as POTUS for a few minutes. Can't for the life of me remember his name, though. Also, Uganda doesn't often make the news in the Anglosphere, but that's more because of systemic bias than because nothing newsworthy happens there. While we shouldn't post items just to be appearing to counter systemic bias, we shouldn't let it stand in the way of valid items. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 01:44, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose. Idi Amin's death I would support had he held out until now, since he's world famous. Merely serving as a head of state in a country not generally in the news doesn't make someone extraordinarily notable for ITN purposes. The kind of 1980-era state leader whose death should be on ITN: Daniel arap Moi, Malcolm Fraser, Valéry Giscard d'Estaing, Margaret Thatcher, Joe Clark, Fidel Castro, Jimmy Carter. -- Mwalcoff (talk) 01:19, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support since he served as a president. --candle•wicke 23:49, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
- A mere 2-sentence update is hardly enough to qualify the article for ITN. No, thanks. --PFHLai (talk) 02:05, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
The Giving Pledge
Forty US billionaires sign The Giving Pledge agreeing to give away half their wealth to charity.(BBC), (Telegraph.co.uk)--Wikireader41 (talk) 00:39, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose. This is simply nice news, it's not amazingly significant in the grand scheme of things. While these people may be billionairres, I'm sure their intended donations don't even come close to the sum of global private donations, or routine governmental aid packages. MickMacNee (talk) 16:39, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
A-Rod hits #600
Alex Rodriguez becomes the youngest Major League Baseball player to hit his 600th home run, joining six other hitters who have reached the milestone.
- Again, kind of hard to get across the import unless you live in North America and understand all the schmaltzy feelings people have over baseball, history and statistical milestones, especially home run hitting, but this is a big deal if you are into this kind of thing. Take it or leave it. -- Mwalcoff (talk) 23:00, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Strong oppose being the seventh person to hit 600 home runs isn't newsworthy unless you are ESPN.com. We aren't. --PlasmaTwa2 23:04, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose. Maybe when he breaks Hank Aaron's real record (I kid, I kid...) While an impressive mark, it's just not that newsworthy as a major record would be. Titoxd(?!? - cool stuff) 23:13, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Martin Brodeur's record wins were not posted as that was deemed too local... This is far down the list. If this was a record then maybe but 7th person to do so isnt that huge -- Ashish-g55 23:17, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose. 6th person sounds insignificant, and given the choice of taking or leaving it with no other info provided, I'm leaving it then. MickMacNee (talk) 23:32, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- I have no idea how significant this is (or what it means) because I don't follow baseball (and have no desire to learn what it means) but we did post some cricketer not long ago, but my interest in cricket is only slightly more than in baseball, so I've no idea what that was either, just wondering if the two records are comparable. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 23:34, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- I could never figure out why we posted that cricket item after we decided not to put up items like Brodeur's all time record in wins. --PlasmaTwa2 23:42, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Regarding cricket: I think we included Muralithuran becoming the first man to take 800 Test wickets and also Tendulkar being the first man to score a double hundred in an ODI, and before that I think we included Tendulkar becoming the all-time leading Test run scorer.But I think we have stuck to firsts and outright records, we didn't include Dravid becoming the 8th man to 10,000 Test runs for example, which seems to be the nearest comparable record in cricket to Rodriguez's. ReadingOldBoy (talk) 13:20, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
- I don't know if you can make an apples-to-apples comparison. I don't know if cricket records and statistics have the kind of resonance in their world as baseball records do in theirs. People used to talk all the time about "the 500 club" in baseball, before the steroids era made that milestone less significant. Baseball fans used to be able to name off the top of their heads the 14 (before Eddie Murray) hitters who had reached the mark -- I once saw a "500 club" picture of them in a sports bar. I guess it's another one of things you kind of have to be in America to grasp. -- Mwalcoff (talk) 01:25, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
- actually cricket records have quite a bit more value at world stage. First of all because they are international records and not records in a league. Second some records like Tendulkar's 200 have never actually been achieved by anyone ever. Thats the reason we posted those. I dont remember us ever posting a cricket item where it was 6th person to achieve some goal no matter how prestigious its considered. -- Ashish-g55 01:36, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
- The question is not whether cricket milestones are more meaningful from a statistical perspective. The question is whether they have as much resonance with fans. Last year, NFL running back Chris Johnson rang up 2,000 rushing yards in a single season, becoming the sixth person to do that. Yet it wasn't as much of a "big deal" in terms of news value because American football fans aren't as hung up on statistical milestones as baseball fans are. It's impossible to make an apples-to-apples comparison between sports, really. You have to judge these kind of things by the amount of public attention they receive. -- Mwalcoff (talk) 02:18, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
- actually cricket records have quite a bit more value at world stage. First of all because they are international records and not records in a league. Second some records like Tendulkar's 200 have never actually been achieved by anyone ever. Thats the reason we posted those. I dont remember us ever posting a cricket item where it was 6th person to achieve some goal no matter how prestigious its considered. -- Ashish-g55 01:36, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
- I don't know if you can make an apples-to-apples comparison. I don't know if cricket records and statistics have the kind of resonance in their world as baseball records do in theirs. People used to talk all the time about "the 500 club" in baseball, before the steroids era made that milestone less significant. Baseball fans used to be able to name off the top of their heads the 14 (before Eddie Murray) hitters who had reached the mark -- I once saw a "500 club" picture of them in a sports bar. I guess it's another one of things you kind of have to be in America to grasp. -- Mwalcoff (talk) 01:25, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
- I have no idea how significant this is (or what it means) because I don't follow baseball (and have no desire to learn what it means) but we did post some cricketer not long ago, but my interest in cricket is only slightly more than in baseball, so I've no idea what that was either, just wondering if the two records are comparable. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 23:34, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose I'd consider an all-time record, but the seventh to hit an arbitrary number is meaningless. Courcelles (talk) 23:46, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Wait until A-Rod passes Bonds. The record on pitchers is an entirely different matter... –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 03:19, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose else it will be endless per Courcelles. Kumar Sangakkara will be the fastest to 8000 Test cricket runs soon. No. Or else people will say ITN each time the WR holder Sachin Tendulkar registers his next chunk of 1000 runs, or anyone joining the 10,000 club etc YellowMonkey (vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll) 03:56, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
Federal Judge Strikes down Prop 8
A Federal Judge Strikes Californian Constitutional Amendment banning Gay marriage as unconstitutional : This maybe a tad US Centric but its an important Event [2] Weaponbb7 (talk) 21:05, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
Comment surely this is going to have to go to the Supreme court? -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 21:08, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose. I agree that it's a big decision; however, like any other district level decision, they still have a long way to go before anything is finalized, with appeals and all. —Arsonal (talk + contribs)— 21:27, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support from what I've read elsewhere online it seems like this is a very strong ruling that is unlikely to be overturned at a higher court. -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 21:33, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose I don't recall us putting this up when it was originally voted on. And like Arsonal said, this is still far from over. --PlasmaTwa2 22:19, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- The opponents have vowed to appeal, and considering the sharp ideological differences between the Supreme Court and the United States District Court for the Northern District of California, I'm sure this has a ways to go. Nonetheless, it has an immediate impact on all of the gay people in a state of 37 million people and will no doubt fan the flames of discord during the upcoming congressional elections nationwide. So I say support. -- Mwalcoff (talk) 22:22, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose US domestic news, interim decision, no major surprise, etc, etc. It's probably about time we just banned listing all US legal cases unless they are Supreme Court decisions, and only then if they have at least some international impact. MickMacNee (talk) 22:23, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- How many times do I have to say this: There is no rule against U.S. domestic news on ITN. If we can have news about solar phenomena that interest the 5% of English Wikipedia users that are astronomy aficionados (or news about the Malawian flag), then we can have news that is of interest to the 52% of English Wikipedia users who are American. You have every right to object to a suggestion for all of the other reasons, but "it's American" doesn't cut it. -- Mwalcoff (talk) 22:34, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Comment is there a source for 52% of English Wikipedia readers being from the US? -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 22:47, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Sorry, 53%: [3] -- Mwalcoff (talk) 22:54, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- I didn't realise it was so high. In which case it doesn't seem unreasonable for US domestic news to be posted - as long as it affects the whole of the US. -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 22:57, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Sorry, 53%: [3] -- Mwalcoff (talk) 22:54, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- There is actually. "ITN rejects items deemed trivial", previously described as "a story of international importance or interest" and "The most common form of opposition on this ground is that the news is "too local" and not of interest to people in the commenter's country of origin". From WP:ITN. I gave up reading that page years ago because ITN really does have no rules and is just organised POV addled chaos, but I thought I would go check anyway, if you are going to get all up in my grill about 'the rules'. You've tried to convince people many times that Wikipedia is read by Yanks and written for Yanks, but it's an argument that rightly usually falls flat, because it isn't and it isn't, on the whole, systemic bias issues aside. MickMacNee (talk) 23:32, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- "Previously" means "not anymore," Mick. I challenge you to find a single occasion where I've argued ITN should have only American items or cater exclusively to American readers. There are about six ITN items up at any given time, and there's nothing wrong with having one or two of them being U.S. items. By the way, you should really read the page Yankee: A "Yankee" or "Yank" is someone from the Northeast U.S., especially New England. Using the word "Yank" to describe all Americans is like using the word "Scot" to describe all British people. -- Mwalcoff (talk) 02:13, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
- Actually, if you scroll down that article, it says that "yank" is a common term for US citizens in the UK and Australia, though I believe it's not considered "politically correct". Anyway, this discussion is deteriorating rapidly and we should move on. This will go up when it gets to SCOTUS, but posting it before that would be too soon. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 02:19, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
- "Previously" means "not anymore," Mick. I challenge you to find a single occasion where I've argued ITN should have only American items or cater exclusively to American readers. There are about six ITN items up at any given time, and there's nothing wrong with having one or two of them being U.S. items. By the way, you should really read the page Yankee: A "Yankee" or "Yank" is someone from the Northeast U.S., especially New England. Using the word "Yank" to describe all Americans is like using the word "Scot" to describe all British people. -- Mwalcoff (talk) 02:13, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
- Comment is there a source for 52% of English Wikipedia readers being from the US? -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 22:47, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- How many times do I have to say this: There is no rule against U.S. domestic news on ITN. If we can have news about solar phenomena that interest the 5% of English Wikipedia users that are astronomy aficionados (or news about the Malawian flag), then we can have news that is of interest to the 52% of English Wikipedia users who are American. You have every right to object to a suggestion for all of the other reasons, but "it's American" doesn't cut it. -- Mwalcoff (talk) 22:34, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
Update: This is currently the lead story at nytimes.com, washingtonpost.com, usatoday.com, cnn.com, msnbc.com, foxnews.com, abcnews.com, cbsnews.com, cbc.ca (Canada), globeandmail.com (also Canada), time.com, wsj.com (Wall Street Journal), guardian.co.uk, etc. Good enough for me. -- Mwalcoff (talk) 22:54, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- really local... if supreme court banned it then it would be more acceptable. media in west end will obviously all cover same story since there is nothing else going on. That isnt a good enough reason to post on ITN. oppose -- Ashish-g55
- I'm sorry if I seem like I'm dwelling on this but I don't see how you can consider this "really local": California has 37 million people, more than Canada, and this is likely to have a nationwide impact politically. "Local" would be like a municipal law getting overturned. -- Mwalcoff (talk) 23:03, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support. this involves interpretation of US constitution and would be of interest to a major chunk of english WP viewers ( even though mostly yanks).we should cater to our audience and not expect it to be the other way around.--Wikireader41 (talk) 23:07, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- I'm sorry if I seem like I'm dwelling on this but I don't see how you can consider this "really local": California has 37 million people, more than Canada, and this is likely to have a nationwide impact politically. "Local" would be like a municipal law getting overturned. -- Mwalcoff (talk) 23:03, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Weak oppose. Newsworthy item, but for consistency, we should wait until farther in the appeals process, since there is no way whatsoever this is not going to get appealed. Titoxd(?!? - cool stuff) 23:16, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose until an unless it goes up as far as SCOTUS, otherwise we'd have nothing on ITN but federal judges striking down this bit of legislation or that bit of legislation, then we'd have to post the appeals and the appeals of the appeals ete etc. Support when it gets to the Supreme Court, but not before. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 23:21, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose This is the just the beginning of a long legal battle that will probably go all the way to the Supreme Court. 172.162.159.236 (talk) 02:32, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
Poll on new Constitution for Keyna
Regardless of the outcome of the poll this seems noteworthy. Constitution of Kenya is the article. (BBC) -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 20:50, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- I have struck out the article mentioned above. As noted by User:C628, the correct article is Proposed Constitution of Kenya, 2010. SteveRwanda (talk) 21:56, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
- It all depends on the content and context of the referendum. Here, the Constitutional reforms seem significant; all the more so in the political context. So I'm inclined to support but will be interested to hear others' views. --Mkativerata (talk) 20:52, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support. A new constitution is important enough. --candle•wicke 05:23, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support Major event, supposed to pretty much end all the corruption problems in Kenya if it works. BTW, I think Proposed Constitution of Kenya, 2010 is the article for the document being voted on. C628 (talk) 14:21, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
- There's not a lot of prose in that article. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 14:34, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
- BBC News reports that preliminary results show 70% in favour of the new constitution. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 15:37, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support Major event, supposed to pretty much end all the corruption problems in Kenya if it works. BTW, I think Proposed Constitution of Kenya, 2010 is the article for the document being voted on. C628 (talk) 14:21, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support. A new constitution is important enough. --candle•wicke 05:23, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support - a very important step for Kenya. I'm quite sure it would make ITN if the USA voted in even an amendment to the constitution, never mind a whole new one. I have updated the article with an expanded background section and a map showing provinces. It probably needs some more fleshing out with details of the voting process, more about who supported/opposed it and why and the final result tallies (which are not 100% in yet I believe). SteveRwanda (talk) 21:52, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
- PS - I will hopefully come back to edit this again tomorrow evening and expand with latest data (real life commitments pressing now unfortunately). It would be great if others could do stuff in the mean time, so we can get this to a state where it can be posted on ITN (if it's not already in that state). http://www.nation.co.ke is a great source for information in real time. SteveRwanda (talk) 21:59, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
- Comparisons of "if it happened somewhere else" aren't very helpful. Nobody has compared this to the US and ITN items are decided on a case by case basis, so if we could keep the discussion focused on Kenya and not "if it was the US", that would be good. Also, I've added this to Template:ITN urgents in the hope of attracting more comments so we can get a consensus. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 22:04, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
Ahmadinejad attack
- An attempt attack at Iran's president - Eugen Simion 14 (talk) 09:58, 4 August 2010 (UTC) 09:57, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose. Apparently just a firecracker mistaken by some to be an Improvised explosive device. __meco (talk) 10:27, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- oppose per meco, its not nominated above? at any rate, goes to show how crap cnn is not to verify their sources. Since the last few hours no source has continued such a "big story"Lihaas (talk) 15:11, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, it's better to not post it due to security reasons. - Eugen Simion 14 (talk) 18:11, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Security? Anyway, as it is not clear what actually happened and there is no article, there is no point in continuing this nomination. --Tone 18:34, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Local sources are very unclear, Iran denied the attempt I think to not create panic and possible violence in the area or a precedent. - Eugen Simion 14 (talk) 18:42, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- oppose per meco, its not nominated above? at any rate, goes to show how crap cnn is not to verify their sources. Since the last few hours no source has continued such a "big story"Lihaas (talk) 15:11, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose. Nothing to post, no article, not a clue what this nom is even about. MickMacNee (talk) 20:12, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
Peru plague/black death
- 1 kill , 31 infected. Any support? [4] - Eugen Simion 14 (talk) 06:18, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support. The last one was in 19 94 plus it is near a tourist beach so maybe that increases its international impact as well. Either way it has been a long time. Is there an article? --candle•wicke 15:54, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose for now, still seems rather minor for an outbreak. --Tone 18:34, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose unless the outbreak expands significantly. For now it is low impact in an ITN sense. --Mkativerata (talk) 20:12, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
Connecticut mass murder
- 9 killed [5] - Eugen Simion 14 (talk) 04:16, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- I would say no as these seem to happen all the time there. --candle•wicke 04:26, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- While they do, 8 victims seems higher than most. ~DC Let's Vent 04:31, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose. With no additional angle to amplify the event, this doesn't seem important enough today. __meco (talk) 10:39, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose. Tragic though it is, such events are all too common in the US. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 11:42, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose per above. --Tone 18:34, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose. Not a hope. And these sorts of mass-shootings are a dime a dozen in Yankee land. MickMacNee (talk) 20:10, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- I wish people would stop dismissing out of hand things on topics they don't know anything about in countries they're not familiar with. A shooting that kills eight people is not an everyday occurrence in America. This was the deadliest shooting in Connecticut since 1998 and worst in the U.S. since the Fort Hood shootings last November. Support -- Mwalcoff (talk) 22:26, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- I disagree with Mick's anti-American statement (though I have to say that, with such backward gun laws, it's not really surprising these things happen) but some people here seem to have a pro-American stance, supporting every American item because it's American. For example, Mwalcoff, would you support this if it wasn't in the US? That said, I wouldn't blame you for supporting solely to cance out the bias demonstrated in Mick's comment. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 23:29, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- I wish people would stop dismissing out of hand things on topics they don't know anything about in countries they're not familiar with. A shooting that kills eight people is not an everyday occurrence in America. This was the deadliest shooting in Connecticut since 1998 and worst in the U.S. since the Fort Hood shootings last November. Support -- Mwalcoff (talk) 22:26, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Strong Oppose Good day again Mwalcoff. No, this is a very small thing by US standards and isn't going to have any political ramifications or legacy, eg gun control, or racially/religiously motivated crime causing revenge riots etc YellowMonkey (vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll) 03:52, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, nine dead is no "very small thing" in the U.S., period. If it was, it wouldn't be getting so much national media attention. -- Mwalcoff (talk) 00:57, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
- A random person who is disgruntled against an employer who sacked them, or with a former spouse or family court judge for not getting custody, then killing people is hardly even notable for an article, as they are just run of the mill crimes with no legacy regardless of how much big news they create. If it was a serial killer who then evaded capture for a while and caused lasting panic, maybe, or a giant massacre. YellowMonkey (vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll) 02:41, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, nine dead is no "very small thing" in the U.S., period. If it was, it wouldn't be getting so much national media attention. -- Mwalcoff (talk) 00:57, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
Karachi riots
53 killed and more than 200 injured in 2010 Karachi riots.(BBC), (NYTimes)--Wikireader41 (talk) 05:25, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
WeakSupport.It's a little difficult to assess the context as I haven't studied who this assassinated Haider person is and the political history of all this, but the riots certainly are very serious and the death toll is high. I'm a bit unsure because the scope of the actual street protests isn't immediately obvious or may not be directly proportional to the number of dead who seem to have been more or less executed.Widespread rioting basically causing the huge city of Karachi to chut down. Major event. __meco (talk) 10:37, 4 August 2010 (UTC)- The article could do with a bit of meat, it's pretty much bare bones at the minute. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 11:43, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- I have expanded it a bit. could you look it over.--Wikireader41 (talk) 15:12, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support. Assassination + major world city shutting down + riots + lots of deaths and injuries = ITN. --candle•wicke 15:49, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- weak support per Candlewicke it does warrant a place (enough death would have an attack get ITN) -- but...the assassination wasnt a big leader, he was just an MLA (or whatever they call it in Pak). So count my vote as a tie-breaker if need beLihaas (talk) 18:27, 4 August 2010 (UTC));
- Comment. the story here are the widespread riots/shutting down of one of the largest cities in the world. The assassination which triggered them is of secondary importance. Raza Haider was described as a senior Muttahida Qaumi Movement (one of the largest political parties in Pakistan)leader.--Wikireader41 (talk) 18:37, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- weak support per Candlewicke it does warrant a place (enough death would have an attack get ITN) -- but...the assassination wasnt a big leader, he was just an MLA (or whatever they call it in Pak). So count my vote as a tie-breaker if need beLihaas (talk) 18:27, 4 August 2010 (UTC));
- Support. Assassination + major world city shutting down + riots + lots of deaths and injuries = ITN. --candle•wicke 15:49, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support. --Tone 18:34, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- I have expanded it a bit. could you look it over.--Wikireader41 (talk) 15:12, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- The article could do with a bit of meat, it's pretty much bare bones at the minute. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 11:43, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Posted. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 19:06, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
August 3
Armed conflicts and attacks
- Adaisseh incident
- Three Lebanese soldiers, one Israeli soldier, and a journalist are killed, and others are wounded, in clashes along the Israel-Lebanon border. (Aljazeera) (BBC) (The Guardian) (AFP via Google News)
- The United Nations Security Council goes into closed-door consultations. (The Sydney Morning Herald)
- Prime Minister of Israel Benjamin Netanyahu claims that IDF soldiers did not cross the border. (The Jerusalem Post)
- UNIFIL confirms that the IDF did not cross the border. (The Jerusalem Post)
- Lebanese officials maintain it was the fault of Israel and expresses dissatisfaction at Israel's "aggression" against their country. (Gulf Daily News)
- Assassination of Raza Haider
- Around 46 people are killed and more than 100 others are wounded in Karachi during violent scenes that follow the assassination. (Aljazeera) (Daily Mail) (AP via The Guardian)
- Police fill the streets of Karachi and Hyderabad is also deserted. (Reuters)
- Twin explosions kill at least 3 people and injure at least 50 others in a crowded shopping area in Kut, Wasit; women and children are seen bleeding in the streets. (BBC)
- Authorities shoot dead at least 2 people for protesting on a highway near Srinagar in Kashmir. (Aljazeera)
- Hundreds of people supporting Lech Kaczyński are sprayed with lachrymator by police outside Warsaw's Presidential Palace. (BBC) (Reuters) (The Washington Post)
- Jordan says it has evidence that a fatal Grad-type rocket strike on Aqaba originated in Egypt's Sinai Peninsula. (The Sydney Morning Herald)
- At least 5 police officers are shot dead at a checkpoint in Baghdad, Iraq. (Aljazeera)
- A battle erupts as the Taliban attacks the Kandahar Air Field, the main NATO base in southern Afghanistan. The battle lasts an hour, after which the Taliban flee. (Aljazeera)
- A worker kills 9 people, including himself, in a workplace incident at Hartford Distributors Inc in Connecticut, United States. (France24) (Xinhua) (BBC)
- A car bomb explodes in Derry, Northern Ireland, injuring no one. (The Guardian) (RTÉ) (The Irish Times)
Arts, culture and society
- The daughter of former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin, Bristol Palin and Levi Johnston once again call off their engagement after it's revealed that Johnston fathered a child with another woman. (ABC)
- A letter is unveiled demonstrating how Robert Burns was "reduced and shattered" in his final days; it will soon be exhibited in Edinburgh, Scotland. (BBC)
- Tokyo's "oldest woman" cannot be located, casting doubts upon her claim to the title. (BBC) (The Guardian)
Disasters and accidents
- 2010 Khyber Pakhtunkhwa floods
- More than three million people are dislocated and 1,500 are now dead as Pakistan's worst floods flow to the south. (Aljazeera)
- Rescue attempts are underway. (BBC)
- The Warsak Dam near Peshawar, Pakistan's third-largest dam, is threatened by rising water levels. (The Guardian)
- The United States Army sends four CH-47 Chinook helicopters and two UH-60 Blackhawks helicopters to help with the relief effort. (AFP via Google)
- Russian wildfires worsen. (BBC) (IOL)
- The family of Terry Jupp claim that the Ministry of Defence did not use "stringent procedures" during the secretive explosive experiment on an island in the Thames Estuary that led to his death. (The Guardian) (The Daily Telegraph) (BBC) (The Washington Post)
Business and economy
- Nearly £2 billion of savings are revealed to have been removed from the UK's nationalised Northern Rock bank. (The Guardian)
- Ecuador says it will not drill for oil in the Yasuni National Park for at least a decade after being provided with $3.6 billion (£2.26 billion) - half the money it would receive from selling the oil - in a deal signed with the United Nations. (BBC)
- Mexicana de Aviación, Mexico's biggest airline, files for bankruptcy. (BBC) (Los Angeles Times)
International relations
- Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah suggests Israel carried out the 2005 assassination of ex-Lebanese PM Rafic Hariri, and promises he will show proof at a press conference next week. (BBC)
- Turkey's Foreign Ministry summons Israel's ambassador after the Israeli Defence Minister Ehud Barak accuses the new head of Turkish intelligence of being a "friend of Iran". (Reuters)
- The 41st annual Pacific Islands Forum Leaders Summit opens in Port Vila, Vanuatu. (Radio New Zealand International)
- President of Pakistan Asif Ali Zardari arrives in the United Kingdom upon a five-day visit as the two countries disagree over David Cameron's remarks on "the export of terror". (Aljazeera)
- Zimbabwe requests apologies from American, German and European Union envoys who walked out of the burial ceremony for President Robert Mugabe's sister; they refuse to apologise. (IOL)[permanent dead link] (BBC) (News24)
- Iran rejects Brazil's offer to grant political asylum to Sakineh Mohammadi Ashtiani, who has been sentenced to death in Iran for adultery. (AP via The Guardian)
Law and crime
- The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) and the Center for Constitutional Rights (CCR) both sue the United States (US) after it bans lawyers from a case taken by the father of Muslim cleric Anwar al-Awlaki against the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), which has labelled him a "specially designated global terrorist". (BBC) (Reuters)
- Seven people go on trial in Kuwait accused of spying for Iran against Kuwait and the United States; they deny all charges and say they were tortured into confessing. (BBC)
- Canada's Transportation Minister John Baird orders an inquiry after a video surfaces showing two figures boarding a flight without showing their faces. (BBC) (Canada.com) (Daily Star) (Ottawa Citizen) (South China Morning Post)
- Jackie Selebi, former chief of Interpol and South Africa's top police officer, is sentenced to 15 years in prison on corruption charges. (AP via GaeaTimes) (Aljazeera) (The Guardian) (France24)[permanent dead link] (Reuters India)
- Former Rwandan administrator Dominique Ntawukulilyayo is given a 25-year sentence of imprisonment by the International Criminal Tribunal for Rwanda after being convicted of the transportation of soldiers during the Rwandan Genocide. (BBC)
- The United States' Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) posts a letter to the offices of online encyclopedia project Wikipedia, threatening fines and imprisonments over what it claims is the "particularly problematic" use of the agency's seal. (BBC) (CNN) (Vanity Fair) (Wikipedia entry)
- Saudi Arabia announces it is to commence a ban on the "messenger function" on BlackBerry handsets from Friday due to security concerns over the Research In Motion (RIM) technological device. (BBC) (Arab News) (Reuters)
Politics and elections
- A prostitute informs Prime Minister of Italy Silvio Berlusconi's corruption inquiry that she received presents after he shared a bed with her and two others. (The Guardian)
- Kenya deploys an additional 18,000 police officers as the country heads to the polls to decide the fate of a potential new constitution. (Aljazeera)
- A top civil service union in Sri Lanka condemns the tying to a tree of an official by a government minister in Colombo, a disagreement related to dengue fever. (BBC) (People's Daily)
- The Elders criticise the Sri Lankan government. (BBC)
- Denmark has a political taxes scandal involving a "big and sloppy error" by Social Democrats leader Helle Thorning-Schmidt. (BBC)
- Irish senator Ivor Callely is suspended from Fianna Fáil over new expense allegations. (RTÉ) (The Irish Times) (Irish Independent) (Irish Examiner)
Science and technology
- The first major Earth-directed solar eruption in a decade will generate aurorae visible in non-polar areas from early August 4th to August 5th. (Foxnews.com) (CNN)
Sports
- Angola jails 4 human rights activists - a university professor, priest, lawyer and former police officer - for alleged links to the perpetrators of the Togo national football team attack; Amnesty International and other organisations describe it as a crackdown on criticism. (BBC News) (Aljazeera)
- Spain and the Netherlands are both fined by FIFA for their antics during the 2010 FIFA World Cup Final. (BBC Sport) (Sky Sports) (The Monitor - Uganda)
- Paraguayan footballer Salvador Cabañas, shot by a gun in the head, says his memories are vague. (BBC News) (Times LIVE)
- Alberto Contador joins Team Saxo Bank, managed by Bjarne Riis. (BBC Sport)
- Steward Derek Warwick gives Michael Schumacher, who performed a dangerous maneuver against a fellow driver, a 10-place penalty in a future Grand Prix race. (Press Association via The Guardian)
ITN candidates for August 3
Salebi conviction and prison term
This good big too in international politics because Salebi was a former chief of Interpol and the highest ranking South Africa official to be found guilty of corruption (S. Africa is in the spotlight too just a month after the world cup)(Lihaas (talk) 14:53, 3 August 2010 (UTC)).
- Who? What? Link? Info? Article? I've no idea what the story is here. Modest Genius talk 20:23, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- Jackie Selebi, sentenced to 15 years in jail for corruption, I think. It's a bit late, though, IMO, since the verdict came a month ago, there isn't that much to update the article with beyond a sentence or two saying he was sentenced. C628 (talk) 20:52, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose. Default oppose, totally inadequate nom. S Africa angle is spurious at best. MickMacNee (talk) 00:46, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose I'm not seeing the international significance of this (despite the Interpol connection). And the article is frankly a debacle.--Mkativerata (talk) 05:36, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support. Former chief of Interpol convicted of massive corruption! 'nuf said. __meco (talk) 10:42, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose. I might have supported the verdict, but that was a month ago. This is just the sentencing. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 11:45, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
Lebanon and Israel exchange of gunfire
Lebanon and Israel's exchange of gunfire comes amid increased tensions and warnings of war in the region (and also follows a notable visit to Lebanon over the weekend). With all these facets it is not an ordinary firefight. This it warrants inclusions, particularly on the repercussions to come.(Lihaas (talk) 14:53, 3 August 2010 (UTC)).
- Oppose. Just a firefight. It might be significant today, but it won't be in a year or even a week. There's no lasting significance to a single exchange of gunfire. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 15:00, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
::Oppose, being such a volatile region, such incidents are not unusual. C628 (talk) 15:16, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
Support. Sources indicate this is not usual (where on earth did that idea come from?).
- The Guardian - "most serious clashes along Israel-Lebanon border since 2006 war".
- Los Angeles Times - "The deaths are the first since the end of the 2006 Lebanon War".
- Sky News - "the most serious escalation of violence since the 2006 war".
- The New York Times - "the fiercest clash in the area since Israel’s monthlong war against the Lebanese Hezbollah militia in the summer of 2006".
- Reuters Canada - "a rare cross-border skirmish".
- The Sydney Morning Herald - "The UN Security Council has gone into closed-door consultations".
- TIME - "Is the Middle East on the Brink of a New Regional War?"
- Al Jazeera - ""This is a very significant development," said Rula Amin, Al Jazeera's correspondent in Beirut. "For the first time in years, clashes are taking place between Israel and the Lebanese army, not Hezbollah.""
And so on and on and on... I selected those at random; there are lots more if you wish. --candle•wicke 16:56, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- I meant that skirmishes in general involving Israel are frequent; every other week you'll hear of the latest attack in the region. I would seem to be mistaken in that this particular incident is minor or run-of-the-mill; my comment is duly struck and I have no comment on the nomination. C628 (talk) 20:15, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- Those just show that it's an escalation of a conflict that has been going on for decades and there always seems to be an escalation of violence on one Israeli border or another. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts?
- Comment Apparently, this is a significant report, and it deserves to be mentioned in the ITN template, but what is the key article which contains the report?--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 17:14, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- I believe that would be 2010 Adaisseh incident, which is actually in pretty good shape. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 17:26, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- I'm still weakly opposed to this, but we are 19 hours without an update, so perhaps someone could suggest a blurb? HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 20:45, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support mentioned on the front page of the Economist, and they don't usually report news stories. For the blurb:
Four troops are killed in a skirmish on the Lebanon-Israeli border.
. -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 21:01, 3 August 2010 (UTC)- What, the dead journalist doesn't matter? C628 (talk) 21:06, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- Reuters only went up to 4. -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 21:26, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- What, the dead journalist doesn't matter? C628 (talk) 21:06, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- Posted. I've omitted all casualty figures etc since they're not the most important part of the story and would make the blurb excessively long. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 21:17, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- CAN We link to the respective armed forces of the counries instead of the country name -- it was something explcitly mention in talk which was the reason for the redirect (and the infobox)(Lihaas (talk) 22:05, 3 August 2010 (UTC));
- I think links to the country are preferable- and more intuitive- personally, but feel free to start a discussion on WT:ITN or WP:ERRORS. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 22:21, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
South Africa fire
- At least 18 deaths after a fire in Nigel near Johannesburg, ZA.BBC - Eugen Simion 14 (talk) 10:31, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support when expanded. --candle•wicke 14:35, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose. Article is one line long and that one line is in the present tense. We're an encyclopaedia, not a news service. So far I see nothing to indicate that this will have any historical significance (ie, will it be widely remembered in 10 years' time) and I'm tempted to AfD the article. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 14:49, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- Comment The article is too short, and its content does not offer enough information for the reader. It would be better to stay off the proposal for a while, and to comment once article will be expanded. Meanwhile, the event should not be mentioned in the template.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 15:08, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
Oppose. Please. Enough of the one line sub-stub noms on events that are not and never will be internationally significant. MickMacNee (talk) 00:43, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- I've proposed the article for deletion. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 11:48, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
Katekavia Flight 9357
- Plane crash in Igarka, Russia - 12 deaths - Eugen Simion 14 (talk) 07:07, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- weak support let see if something else comes to fill the vacuum today(Lihaas (talk) 10:06, 3 August 2010 (UTC));
- Strong support Since the ITN template always documents such events, this should not be excluded.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 13:11, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- We don't document every aircraft that ever crashes, otherwise ITN would have nothing but plane crashes. No opinion on this particular crash, though. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 13:21, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- My point was not to mention only aircraft crashes. The template should document widely variety of current events, but in the 5-6 events mentioned, there is always an aircraft crash, train collision or derailment, or flooding. Thus, it is not uncommon or strange to document this event. I appreciate your wish to explain the usage of the template, but apparently we should try to slant it not only on events, which cause human deaths. Best regards.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 14:32, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support. Planes crashes don't occur that often and this one has killed people. --candle•wicke 14:35, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose A regional airline crashing a small plane in the Russian Federation is sadly common. Russia has two airlines who are in- or invited to- a global alliance (Aeroflot and S7), and the quality and safety record goes down dramatically from there. Our page on the An-24 lists this as the third crash for this type of plane this year. Courcelles (talk) 18:11, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support. Planes crashes don't occur that often and this one has killed people. --candle•wicke 14:35, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- My point was not to mention only aircraft crashes. The template should document widely variety of current events, but in the 5-6 events mentioned, there is always an aircraft crash, train collision or derailment, or flooding. Thus, it is not uncommon or strange to document this event. I appreciate your wish to explain the usage of the template, but apparently we should try to slant it not only on events, which cause human deaths. Best regards.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 14:32, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- We don't document every aircraft that ever crashes, otherwise ITN would have nothing but plane crashes. No opinion on this particular crash, though. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 13:21, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose, small plane crash in a region where such things are sadly common. Also, there are bigger car crashes in most countries every day. Modest Genius talk 20:32, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose. Substandard nom. Zero evidence of significance. MickMacNee (talk) 00:44, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
Once in a decade solar eruption
- The first major Earth-directed solar eruption in a decade will generate aurorae visible in temperate latitudes from early August 4th to 5th. (Foxnews.com)
- (Western countries: Northern hemisphere Sky watchers [in the northern U.S. and other countries] should look toward the north late Tuesday or early Wednesday (CNN))
- (Middle east countries: Early & late wednesday (4th), and late wednesday)
- (Eastern countries: Early & late wednesday, early Thursday)
This news is exeptional, we need to react fast. (I have to go to visit a friend and will turn off my PC (I'm already late actually), I just took this news to wiki. Can't do more. Please take the lead ! be bold ! Best regards) Yug (talk) 15:36, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- Strong support , and VERY strong support if someone find the climax of eruptions in UTC time. Rewording welcome (be bold! move fast). 15:14, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- What's the article that will need to be updated? HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 15:18, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- Let's say aurorae. Yug (talk) 15:22, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- Doesn't look like that article (or rather the article to which it redirects) has been updated. We'll need an update somewhere (it doesn't really matter where) for it to have any chance of getting on ITN. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 15:27, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- You want a specific small section relate to the news in one article, is it that ? A new section in Aurorae may work, in Coronal mass ejection (=solar eruption) may also be relevant too. I have to go to visit a friend and will turn off my PC (I'm already late actually), I just took this news to wiki. Can't do more. Please take the lead ! be bold ! Best regards Yug (talk) 15:36, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- Done Done ! See Coronal_mass_ejection#History (=solar eruption) !!! I'm late =___= Please support this event ! Yug (talk) 15:49, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- You want a specific small section relate to the news in one article, is it that ? A new section in Aurorae may work, in Coronal mass ejection (=solar eruption) may also be relevant too. I have to go to visit a friend and will turn off my PC (I'm already late actually), I just took this news to wiki. Can't do more. Please take the lead ! be bold ! Best regards Yug (talk) 15:36, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- Doesn't look like that article (or rather the article to which it redirects) has been updated. We'll need an update somewhere (it doesn't really matter where) for it to have any chance of getting on ITN. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 15:27, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- Let's say aurorae. Yug (talk) 15:22, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- What's the article that will need to be updated? HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 15:18, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- Strong support. We are long overdue for this level of sunspot activity, and now the sun's literally exploding. Even if this may not be a Carrington Event it still could cause considerable disruptions on earth. __meco (talk) 15:55, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- This im starting to support many science articles, bt nonetheless seems worthy enough for me support(Lihaas (talk) 17:59, 3 August 2010 (UTC));
- Strong Support from me as well. Let's put a truly spectacular science story up for once. Aurorae in non-polar areas all over the world for two days? It would take an amount of energy orders of magnitude larger than even relatively energetic CME to produce that effect. If the article is created/updated then let's run with it! Cwill151 (talk) 18:36, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- Any idea when this is going to happen? Also, a little more than 3 sentences for an update would be nice, as would a blurb suggestion, but I'm willing to post this when it happens. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 19:13, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
Waitto see what happens tonight. If the auroral activity is as high as reports suggest it might be, I'll support. Modest Genius talk 20:10, 3 August 2010 (UTC)- actually i suggest otherwise... post it early so people know and go out to actually see it. the news is about expected aurora anyways. after it happens not many will care for it. -- Ashish-g55 20:26, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- Gents the story is not about an expected light show for stargazers, the story is that scientists have captured video of one of the largest CME's in recorded history. The video feed was captured using the new Solar Observatory satellite which makes a documentation of this type the result of a massive scientific endeavor years in the making, on a scale much larger than a new species in Madagascar or a ship found in Canada. The story is the encyclopedic value of this observation, not it's news value. But even for those who are not disposed to purely scientific interest, the effects of this ejection (that is to say the massive and widespread aurorae) will affect people on a global scale. To answer HJ, I haven't been able to find a conclusive time frame for the auroral disturbance, but I checked with a colleague who works with the HST, and he said that due to the varying velocity of the plasma, and the variations in the solar radiation pressure due to the ejection itself, it's nigh impossible to report more than an estimated time-frame for observation; which is between roughly 11pm and 4am (EST) tonight for the U.S., dependent on geographic location and the local strength of the geomagnetic field in the area. Cheers! Cwill151 (talk) 21:54, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- actually i suggest otherwise... post it early so people know and go out to actually see it. the news is about expected aurora anyways. after it happens not many will care for it. -- Ashish-g55 20:26, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- Latest reports are of four CMEs. That's sufficiently unprecedented that I'm changing to a support on its own. If we get spectacular aurorae (first CME is due to hit about now-ish) that's even more of a reason to post. Modest Genius talk 22:00, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- Anyone got a good blurb suggestion? HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 22:24, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- "The Sun undergoes a series of four large coronal mass ejections || resulting in strong aurorae visible in both the Northern and Southern hemispheres" with the stuff after the || added if/when the aurorae show up (they may already be, some of the satellite proxies suggest so but we should wait for documentary evidence). Modest Genius talk 22:28, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- Works for me. I'll post it now and put the second half between comment tags for now. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 22:30, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- I'm getting us a picture right now... Modest Genius talk 22:38, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- OK, here it is, File:August 2010 CME SDO.jpg. Modest Genius talk 22:44, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- I'm getting us a picture right now... Modest Genius talk 22:38, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- HJ, I realize that you just posted the Israel-Lebanon incident with picture, but would it be against tradition to post this picture on MP instead? It seems like a more spectacular image, as well as far more descriptive/relevant? It's cool if not. Cwill151 (talk) 22:57, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- Sure. That's a much better image. Trouble is, another admin just removed the blurb from ITN. He believes it isn't sufficiently updated. I've left him a note, but any more material that could be added would be great. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 23:05, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- HJ, I'm in the process of providing a more thorough update as we speak: ETA < 1 hr, though I might need some help formatting sources... Cwill151 (talk) 23:55, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- Might I suggest Wikipedia:RefToolbar? If you're doing online sources, just copy-paste the URL, hit the button, et voilà. I'd help, but I'm afraid I'm off to bed. Modest Genius talk 00:10, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Works for me. I'll post it now and put the second half between comment tags for now. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 22:30, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- "The Sun undergoes a series of four large coronal mass ejections || resulting in strong aurorae visible in both the Northern and Southern hemispheres" with the stuff after the || added if/when the aurorae show up (they may already be, some of the satellite proxies suggest so but we should wait for documentary evidence). Modest Genius talk 22:28, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- Updated: There, I've gone ahead and updated the article further to include more known information as well as some much needed prose. I think it qualifies as MP material now. Also there is a great 3 second public domain video clip of the ejection here. If anyone can help to embed it next to the prose, it would be much appreciated. Cheers! Cwill151 (talk) 00:41, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Also, the file can be downloaded free from the same site. Cwill151 (talk) 00:42, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
OK, re-posted, now the update has been padded out a bit. Now, how am I going to work that image into the blurb? Any suggestions? HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 00:53, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Image added. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 11:58, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Blurb Action: I have updated the article to include the reports of aurorae observed last night due to the first CME, can someone fill in the missing blurb section on MP? It would be much appreciated, thanks. Cheers! Cwill151 (talk) 20:14, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Done HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 20:33, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
August 2
- A Jordanian civilian is killed and three others are wounded as a Grad rocket launched from the Sinai hits the city of Aqaba. Four other rockets land in open areas in the Gulf of Aqaba. Jordan, Israel, Egypt and the United States condemn the attack. (YnetNews) (Haaretz)
- The United Nations establishes a panel with an Israeli and Turk amongst its members to investigate the Gaza flotilla raid in May. (AFP via Google News)
- An antiques dealer is imprisoned for handling a copy of the First Folio by poet and playwright William Shakespeare, though cleared of actually stealing it, in the UK. (BBC)
- Cuban President Raúl Castro pledges to ease state control of the economy. (BBC) (People's Daily) (Angola Press)
- Hundreds of new wildfires erupt in Russia as fire has damaged or destroyed 27 towns and villages. (AP via Boston Globe)
- A fire at a retirement home in Nigel, Gauteng, South Africa, kills 18 people. (BBC) (Times Live South Africa)
- Eleven people are killed and four survive after a passenger plane crashes in Russia's Krasnoyarsk territory. (RIA Novosti) (Times of India)
- The Government of the United States claims that nearly 5 million barrels of oil have spilt from the Deepwater Horizon oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico, making it the largest accidental maritime oil spill ever. (New York Times)
- At least 33 people drown after a boat capsizes on Lake Albert in Uganda. (UPI) (AFP)
- The European Union announces it will end its mission to reform security forces in Guinea-Bissau due to the deteriorating situation in the country. (BBC) (News24)
- The Government of Pakistan summons the British High Commissioner to Islamabad for a "dressing down" by Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi over remarks made by the British Prime Minister David Cameron on Pakistan "looking both ways" on terrorism. (AFP via Google News) (The Guardian) (BBC)
- The trial of Malaysian opposition leader Anwar Ibrahim on sodomy charges is deferred until August 9. (CNN)
- A drunk man on a tractor kills 11 people and injures many others in a rampage in northern China. (Reuters Africa) (BBC) (The Hindu)
- Politicians in Nepal fail to elect a new Prime Minister for the third time after no candidate secured a majority. (Kantipur) (BBC) (Indian Express)
- Several people are killed during protests in Indian-administered Kashmir after the worst anti-government violence in two years. (The Hindu) (BBC)
- A Greek truck drivers strike ends with the situation expected to get back to normal quickly. (AP via The Australian)
- The United States House of Representatives ethics committee charges California Democrat Maxine Waters with breaking ethics rules. (USA Today)
- The Census of Marine Life is released after 10 years of study of the worlds oceans showing that there are 230,000 species of animal living there. (Fox News), (The Guardian)
- Lithuania wins the European U-18 basketball championship. (Ballineurope)
- Former World No. 1 professional tennis player Ivan Lendl announces a return after a 16-year break. (BBC Sport)
- Car driver Michael Schumacher apologises to Rubens Barrichello for what Barichello describes as "the most dangerous manoeuvre against me I have ever known", which occurred during the 2010 Hungarian Grand Prix. (The Guardian)
ITN candidates for August 2
New species of Malagasy carnivoran
A new carnivoran species, Salanoia durrelli, is described from Lake Alaotra, Madagascar. (abstract of description) I just created the article and GA nominated it. Ucucha 21:02, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support A new species is ITN worthy. I notice this hasn't yet been picked up by international news so lets get this up and be way ahead of the game. Excellent job on the article. --Mkativerata (talk) 21:39, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
- Comment I'm neutral toward this as the species itself is nothing too extraordinary, just the fact that it is newly described. It would make a splendid DYK article though. —Arsonal (talk + contribs)— 22:05, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
- I've no strong opinion on this particular nom, but these kinds of items do well to prove that ITN is about encyclopaedic content, not just the news ticker many mistake it for. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 22:17, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
- Posted. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 01:35, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
Finance/Stock market
Tehran Stock Exchange (TSE) has been in the news recently - Please see recent press articles by Bloomberg here and Forbes.
In my opinion, it would be a good idea to include TSE in the news because:
1. Today, TSE's main index (TEPIX) broke (again) an historic all-time record high & TEPIX, is the world’s second-best performing equity index.
2. TSE is modernizing, thus it is a good example for other developing countries in this regard (i.e. Iran has a transition economy.)
3. The bourse and the economy is an aspect of Iran that is not well known in the West because of the constant focus on its nuclear program.
4. The article itself is well written and meets the "good status" in my opinion, as I spent a few days researching and updating it. Same for the economy of Iran.
The "in the news" line could be written something like this:
"Tehran Stock Exchange main index (TEPIX) hit an historic all-time record high as the Iranian bourse undergoes a modernization program and the economy of Iran diversifies."
Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by SSZ (talk • contribs) 21:35, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
- Wow i just at the page today, how ironic ;)
- Im kinda of torn between this as ITN as indices dont get on for breaking a record (all the TEPIX has been up continously for more than a week breaking records, and in light of sanctions, etc it makes it notable. maybe try DYK to suggest its record despite sanctions and difersifying. The site is certainly well put together.
- Oppose - I just don't see any of this as significant. Modest Genius talk 22:56, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
May be we should make it more dramatic: "TSE hit all-time record high despite U.S. sanctions." —Preceding unsigned comment added by SSZ (talk • contribs) 23:10, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
- That could be construed as a synthesis of two independent facts. Economic sanctions on a country is an international matter; a country's stock market performance is largely a domestic assessment. —Arsonal (talk + contribs)— 02:12, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- Please note: I didn't say because but despite of. No direct relationship is established between the two here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by SSZ (talk • contribs) 03:33, 3 August 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.116.236.229 (talk)
- "Despite" indicates that something should have happened to the latter because of the former, still relating the two. —Arsonal (talk + contribs)— 02:39, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- of course, namely money flow and market psychology (i.e. "flight to safety").69.116.236.229 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 03:11, 3 August 2010 (UTC).
- "Despite" indicates that something should have happened to the latter because of the former, still relating the two. —Arsonal (talk + contribs)— 02:39, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- Please note: I didn't say because but despite of. No direct relationship is established between the two here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by SSZ (talk • contribs) 03:33, 3 August 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.116.236.229 (talk)
Forbes says the same. No original research.69.116.236.229 (talk) 03:33, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- That link also says (in the first line) "The Tehran Stock Exchange rallied to a record high Wednesday, extending a months-long climb despite U.S. and U.N. sanctions that have hammered the economy". Therefore, support. --candle•wicke 14:31, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- A stock market hitting a record high should not be that unusual. Stock markets are supposed to go up. That's why people invest in stocks. It may be interesting that the Iranian market has reached a record, but that doesn't make it an appropriate ITN item. Strong oppose -- Mwalcoff (talk) 22:43, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
August 1
- War in Afghanistan (2001–2021)
- Netherlands pulls out of Afghanistan. (rfi)
- Two NATO soldiers are killed in fighting in the south of Afghanistan. (AFP via Focus net)
- Wooden box mines, suspected to come from North Korea, wash ashore on a South Korean beach killing one man and injuring another. (Reuters) (Yonhap)
- Israel Defense Forces jets attack targets in the Gaza Strip following a Qassam rocket fired at the Negev in Israel on Saturday night. (Ynet News)
- Almost 90,000 people flee renewed fighting in the eastern Democratic Republic of the Congo in the past month reflecting a declining security situation as the military fights Allied Democratic Forces-National Army for the Liberation of Uganda Ugandan Islamist rebels. (Reuters Africa)
- Six people die in the Indian province of Jammu and Kashmir after a third day of clashes between security forces and Muslim separatists. (Voice of America)
- World Heritage List
- Hawaii's Papahānaumokuākea Marine National Monument, the habitat of the endangered Hawaiian Monk seal and rare birds, and Sri Lanka's central highlands are added. (Reuters)
- Tanzania's Ngorongoro Conservation Area, including the Serengeti National Park and Olduvai Gorge, are added. (The Earth Times)
- Eleven of Australia's most important convict sites including Hyde Park Barracks and The Domain in Sydney, Fremantle Prison in Western Australia and Port Arthur, Tasmania are added. (AAP via Sydney Morning Herald)
- Philippine Airlines tells 25 airline pilots to return to work after quitting without notice forcing the airline to cancel flights. (Bloomberg via Business Week)
- Manufacturing output in China grows at its slowest rate in 17 months in July, with the Purchasing Managers Index falling 0.9% to 51.2%. (BBC) (Xinhua)
- The United Arab Emirates will suspend some BlackBerry mobile services from October amid concerns that data from some equipment is being exported offshore and managed by foreign organisations. Saudi Arabia plans to suspend some services later this month. (BBC) (Aljazeera)
- Thousands of troops are mobilised in Russia to tackle forest fires spreading in 17 regions, the worst in decades, as the death toll rises to 30. (Voice of Russia) (AFP)
- Floods in northeastern China kill more than 100 people and sweep 3,000 chemical-filled barrels into the Songhua River. (Aljazeera) (Xinhua) (AFP) (Times of India)
- Pakistan floods
- The death toll from floods in northwestern Pakistan exceeds 1,000. (BBC) (Aljazeera) (The Nation)
- The United States pledges $10 million in foreign aid to Pakistan to help the nation respond. (AFP via Sydney Morning Herald)
- The Convention on Cluster Munitions banning the use, production and transfer of cluster bombs in some countries, comes into effect. (AFP) (BBC) (Aljazeera)
- Colombia denies claims by Venezuela that it is planning a military attack, a day after Venezuelan president Hugo Chávez said he was sending troops to their mutual border. (CNN) (Xinhua)
- The President of Israel Shimon Peres and the President of Egypt Hosni Mubarak agree that Israel and the Palestinian Authority should hold direct talks. (Jerusalem Post)
- United Kingdom - Sarah's Law, a scheme which allows parents to check if someone with access to their children is a sex offender, will be extended to cover the whole of England and Wales by Spring 2011 after proving successful in four pilot areas. (BBC)
- Scientists announce the discovery of the world's first active undersea river, in the Black Sea. (The Daily Telegraph)
ITN candidates for August 1
Convention on Cluster Munitions comes into effect
The Convention on Cluster Munitions banning the use, production and transfer of cluster bombs, comes into effect. Midway (talk) 12:30, 1 August 2010 (UTC) (Sources here: (AFP) (BBC) (Aljazeera))
- Support when the article is updated. --BorgQueen (talk) 12:33, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support. I've updated the list of signatures and ratifications, but it needs an 'entry into force' section added. I'll do that later unless someone beats me to it. Modest Genius talk 13:51, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
- Indeed. It needs some prose really. I'm conscious that we're 22 hours since the last update to ITN. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 14:11, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
- OK, there's now 4 paragraphs of prose with a whole bunch of references. Modest Genius talk 15:35, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
- Excellent. Posting. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 15:37, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
- OK, there's now 4 paragraphs of prose with a whole bunch of references. Modest Genius talk 15:35, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
- Indeed. It needs some prose really. I'm conscious that we're 22 hours since the last update to ITN. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 14:11, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
- Do any of the countries which signed/ratified it use cluster bombs? Jolly Ω Janner 16:08, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
- Several of them did, yes. See the lists at the bottom of cluster bombs - off the top of my head France, Germany and the UK all used them in war and have ratified. There are many others who have signed but not yet ratified. Modest Genius talk 16:12, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
Black Sea undersea river
Scientists announce the discovery of the world's first active undersea river, in the Black Sea.
- Support as nominator. Seems like a pretty big deal; I've just created the article. It would be a good piece of science news among all the disasters and politics, perhaps replacing the Investigator. Lampman (talk) 19:11, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support per nom - Eugen Simion 14 (talk) 19:24, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
- Nice science news. However, for those, we usually wait until a paper on the topic is published in a journal - do we have it already? --Tone 20:00, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
- There's a press release by the university, and an article in the Telegraph. I'm pretty sure that's normally enough for an ITN; the HMS Investigator discovery, for instance, is based entirely on news sources. After all it's the announcement that's the news. If we wait for a peer-reviewed journal article it won't really be news any more. Lampman (talk) 20:08, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
- For science stories, we do wait for a peer-reviewed journal. Well, probably, these announcements are followed by a paper quite quickly, probably one has already been accepted somewhere. The discovered ship is a historical topic, they won't publish a scientific study on how they found it... --Tone 20:14, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
- I'm not quite sure what you mean, surely you're aware that archaeologists (this was an archaeological discovery, not a historical topic) also have peer-reviewed journals? As for the criterion saying that only peer-review journal entries, and not official university press releases, are acceptable sources for science news, I am unable to find that anywhere. Lampman (talk) 20:50, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
- Ok, bad example from my side... sure, this is archaeology. I won't oppose if this goes up now but it would be still nice to have a journal reference. --Tone 21:07, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
- I'm not quite sure what you mean, surely you're aware that archaeologists (this was an archaeological discovery, not a historical topic) also have peer-reviewed journals? As for the criterion saying that only peer-review journal entries, and not official university press releases, are acceptable sources for science news, I am unable to find that anywhere. Lampman (talk) 20:50, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
- For science stories, we do wait for a peer-reviewed journal. Well, probably, these announcements are followed by a paper quite quickly, probably one has already been accepted somewhere. The discovered ship is a historical topic, they won't publish a scientific study on how they found it... --Tone 20:14, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
- There's a press release by the university, and an article in the Telegraph. I'm pretty sure that's normally enough for an ITN; the HMS Investigator discovery, for instance, is based entirely on news sources. After all it's the announcement that's the news. If we wait for a peer-reviewed journal article it won't really be news any more. Lampman (talk) 20:08, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
- I too would like to see evidence of a paper accepted by a peer-reviewed journal before supporting this. Modest Genius talk 22:58, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
- Strong support what exactly are we waiting for? This certainly meets all the requirements. --PlasmaTwa2 22:31, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
July 31
Arts and entertainment
- Chelsea Clinton and Marc Mezvinsky marry in Rhinebeck, New York. (UPI)
Business and economy
- The United States Department of Commerce releases statistics showing that the United States economy shrank by 4.1 per cent between the 4th quarter of 2007 and the second quarter of 2009, a deeper recession than previously thought. (Bloomberg)
Disasters
- The report of the Victorian Bushfires Royal Commission into the Black Saturday bushfires that killed 173 people in Victoria, Australia, is tabled in the Parliament of Victoria. It contains 67 recommendations including changes to evacuation policy and an increase in backburning. (ABC Online)
- The black box for Airblue Flight 202 which crashed near Islamabad, Pakistan, is found. (DAWN)
- The death toll from the 2010 Pakistan floods exceeds 900 and may climb further. (Bloomberg via San Francisco Chronicle), (AFP via Google News)
- Germany holds a memorial service for the 21 victims of the Love Parade disaster. (BBC)
- United States and Michigan government officials say it will take months to clean up an oil spill in the Kalamazoo River in southern Michigan and considerably longer for the ecosystem to recover. (AP via New York Times)
- An explosion in a coal mine in Shanxi Province, China leaves 17 people dead while 24 miners are trapped by flooding in a nearby mine. (UPI)
Law and crime
- The Federal Bureau of Investigation is investigating whether civilians conspired with a US soldier to release classified information available on Wikileaks. (UPI)
- Mexican police rescue two television camera operators kidnapped by drug cartels on Monday. (Reuters via New York Times)
International relations
- Pakistani intelligence officials cancel a planned visit to the United Kingdom after British Prime Minister David Cameron warned Pakistan to avoid links with groups that "promote the export of terror". However, a visit by President Asif Ali Zardari will go ahead. (BBC)
Politics and elections
- Police fire rubber bullets to disperse rioting garment workers as protests spread beyond the capital Dhaka to other Bangladeshi cities. (AFP via Google News)
ITN candidates for July 31
Xingang Port oil spill
Worst oil spill in Chinese history. Jolly Ω Janner 15:59, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Article looks good. Could do with section headers, though and maybe a little expansion if possible. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 17:03, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- hmm isnt this a little old now? also estimates are so vague that its pretty hard to tell how big the disaster actually is. 400k to 28mil US gal... like wth. might as well not put a number lol. if its actually confirmed that this was anywhere as big as exxon disaster then i will support even if its too late. otherwise neutral. -- Ashish-g55 17:30, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Support. It's unfortunate that there are English coverage of this topic is minimal, not comparable to the spill in the Gulf of Mexico. It also doesn't help that the PRC government is attempting to minimize coverage. This is being sparsely reported in Chinese television channels. The New York Times: "The growing concern over the potential for further port disasters in China came on the same week as the International Energy Agency's announcement that China had surpassed the United States as the world's top energy consumer." Authorities claimed the leak was stopped on 26 July. —Arsonal (talk + contribs)— 17:40, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- (ec) Well it was in the headlines yesterday, so we could use a blurb that reflects it's been ongoing for a while. That would get round the "too late" issue. We'd need an update, though. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 17:42, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Well I heard it on the news yesterday and I think the emphasis was that it now appears to have been the largest Chinese oil spill. I guess if it's been leeking for 10 days then estimates will change. It hasn't already been on ITN and it's still an ongoing event, so I don't see the great need for an "update". Many news sources are also "late" with their coverage. Jolly Ω Janner 17:58, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- (ec) Well it was in the headlines yesterday, so we could use a blurb that reflects it's been ongoing for a while. That would get round the "too late" issue. We'd need an update, though. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 17:42, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Support. It's unfortunate that there are English coverage of this topic is minimal, not comparable to the spill in the Gulf of Mexico. It also doesn't help that the PRC government is attempting to minimize coverage. This is being sparsely reported in Chinese television channels. The New York Times: "The growing concern over the potential for further port disasters in China came on the same week as the International Energy Agency's announcement that China had surpassed the United States as the world's top energy consumer." Authorities claimed the leak was stopped on 26 July. —Arsonal (talk + contribs)— 17:40, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- hmm isnt this a little old now? also estimates are so vague that its pretty hard to tell how big the disaster actually is. 400k to 28mil US gal... like wth. might as well not put a number lol. if its actually confirmed that this was anywhere as big as exxon disaster then i will support even if its too late. otherwise neutral. -- Ashish-g55 17:30, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
I very much doubt it was leaking for 10 days, that seems pretty unlikely given it was in a port and the fire was stopped after 3 days. (source) -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 18:59, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Support. What can we do for an update, should we say it becomes the largest spill in Chinese history? The article may need expansion, and the estimates are screwy, how do you have differing estimates on two orders of magnitude? ~AH1(TCU) 02:15, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
The Chinese Economy becomes the worlds second largest
Given there are no other nominations today can I nominate this? It seems like a notable event in the rise and rise of the leading developing countries. -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 14:28, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Not true, not affirmed by anyone other than China (ie- IMF, etc). Sure its picked up by other media but solely on chinese cliams. I'd wait for affirmation from int'l bodies on that.(Lihaas (talk) 14:32, 31 July 2010 (UTC));
- I wouldn't say "not true". It would not at all be surprising given 2009 data and 2010 growth rates that China has become the 2nd largest economy. In fact in 2009, the Mainland GDP + Hong Kong GDP already is larger than Japan's ...and I'm not even including Macau or Taiwan. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Economet (talk • contribs) 16:24, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose the article doesn't say where this fact is coming from. IMF or World Bank source would be trustworthy. Jolly Ω Janner 15:52, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Comment the FT seems to be reporting this: http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/fd4430da-9bfe-11df-a7a4-00144feab49a.html. -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 16:05, 31 July 2010 (UTC)