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The [[Economic Community of West African States]] imposes an [[arms embargo]] on [[Guinea]] after the [[2009 Guinea protest|deaths of opposition supporters]] at a rally last month. [http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSLH513511] --[[User:BorgQueen|BorgQueen]] ([[User talk:BorgQueen|talk]]) 00:01, 18 October 2009 (UTC) |
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We might want to keep an eye on this: "Iran's Martyr Foundation said on Saturday it will declare Neda Agha-Soltan a martyr if is proven that an enemy of the state caused the young woman's death" [http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5idNzGE-KXIAFil3Xdm53VElSYFqA] The foundation is run by the government, therefore it is obviously a propaganda campaign, however if they do officially declare her a martyr it might be notable enough for ITN. --[[User:BorgQueen|BorgQueen]] ([[User talk:BorgQueen|talk]]) 21:59, 17 October 2009 (UTC) |
We might want to keep an eye on this: "Iran's Martyr Foundation said on Saturday it will declare Neda Agha-Soltan a martyr if is proven that an enemy of the state caused the young woman's death" [http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5idNzGE-KXIAFil3Xdm53VElSYFqA] The foundation is run by the government, therefore it is obviously a propaganda campaign, however if they do officially declare her a martyr it might be notable enough for ITN. --[[User:BorgQueen|BorgQueen]] ([[User talk:BorgQueen|talk]]) 21:59, 17 October 2009 (UTC) |
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October 17
- Czech President Václav Klaus compares the Treaty of Lisbon to "an unstoppable speeding train" that he is being forced to sign. (BBC)
- A report into dumping of toxic waste by Trafigura in Côte d'Ivoire is published. (BBC)
- Two police officers are killed after their police helicopter is shot down by drug gangs in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. Ten drug traffickers were also killed in the violence. (Associated Press) (Brazzil Mag) (Al Jazeera)
- The sheriff in Fort Collins, Colorado advises that criminal charges will be laid over the balloon boy hoax. (AP via Minneapolis Star-Tribune) (Sky News)
- The Economic Community of West African States (ECOWAS) imposes an arms embargo on Guinea after the deaths of opposition supporters at a rally last month. (African Press Agency)[permanent dead link] (Reuters)
- A South Korean legislator claims North Korea is holding 154,000 of its citizens in gulags. (Yonhap) (AFP) (BBC)
- A Colombian military official claims that eight FARC guerrillas and five Colombian army soldiers have been killed in heavy fighting in Cauca Department. (AFP via Google News)
- Iran frees Newsweek reporter Maziar Bahari on bail after four months in detention following the disputed presidential election. (Press TV) (IOL) (Associated Press)
- More than one million anti-abortion protesters march through Madrid in one of the largest demonstrations since 2003 and 2004 anti-war protests. (The Australian) (Reuters India)
- Thousands of fans, celebrities and politicians attend the funeral of Boyzone singer Stephen Gately in Dublin. (RTÉ) (The Guardian) (The Times) (ABC News)
- 30,000 troops from the Pakistan Army begin an offensive operation against the Taliban and their allies in South Waziristan. (BBC)
- The government of the Maldives, including President Mohamed Nasheed, holds the world's first underwater Cabinet meeting, to highlight the threat of global warming. (Miadhu News) (BBC)
- 32 people are killed in a fire at a fireworks warehouse in southern India, during the Diwali celebrations. (Hindustan Times) (CNN)
ITN candidates for October 17
Arms embargo on Guinea
The Economic Community of West African States imposes an arms embargo on Guinea after the deaths of opposition supporters at a rally last month. [1] --BorgQueen (talk) 00:01, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
Neda Agha-Soltan
We might want to keep an eye on this: "Iran's Martyr Foundation said on Saturday it will declare Neda Agha-Soltan a martyr if is proven that an enemy of the state caused the young woman's death" [2] The foundation is run by the government, therefore it is obviously a propaganda campaign, however if they do officially declare her a martyr it might be notable enough for ITN. --BorgQueen (talk) 21:59, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
- Are you sure after all the controversy about Father Damien? --candle•wicke 23:02, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
- Sorry, I fail to see the connection. Could you enlighten me a bit? --BorgQueen (talk) 23:13, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
- If you are concerned about NPOV issue, I believe it has more to do with how it is covered in the article and how the blurb is worded, rather than the fact itself. (ex. if reliable sources call it a propaganda, we should cite them calling it a propaganda.) Of course, if consensus does not support this then we should look for something else... --BorgQueen (talk) 23:44, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
- Sorry, I fail to see the connection. Could you enlighten me a bit? --BorgQueen (talk) 23:13, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
South Waziristan Operation
Pakistan has launched the mega operation. --yousaf465' 07:20, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
- Article updated Operation Rah-e-Nijat. --yousaf465' 07:30, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
- There are a few visible problems: (1) The update is too short, (2) the "update" doesn't mention dates and only has short sentences, (3) only one new reference. Cargoking talk 07:37, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
- Some of the prob have been solved. More links on the way. PM is likely to address the nation of it.--yousaf465' 07:48, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
- Still lacks today's date. Is there any support from anyone? I myself have yet to decide. Cargoking talk 07:55, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
- I reckon we should merge 2009 South Waziristan offensive with the "Second Phase" of Operation Rah-e-Nijat. Jolly Ω Janner 13:06, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
- Support merge. Also this is going to the major assault. According to one official this is mother of all battles. No turning back this time.--yousaf465' 14:18, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
- Support, I've now merged it and added some more information about the invasion with more two references now. Perhaps "The Pakistan Army begins Operation Rah-e-Nijat againgst the Taliban in South Waziristan, Pakistan." Jolly Ω Janner 15:46, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
- Support merge. Also this is going to the major assault. According to one official this is mother of all battles. No turning back this time.--yousaf465' 14:18, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
- I reckon we should merge 2009 South Waziristan offensive with the "Second Phase" of Operation Rah-e-Nijat. Jolly Ω Janner 13:06, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
- Still lacks today's date. Is there any support from anyone? I myself have yet to decide. Cargoking talk 07:55, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
- Some of the prob have been solved. More links on the way. PM is likely to address the nation of it.--yousaf465' 07:48, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
- Posting. I'll link the appropriate paragraph directly. --Tone 16:04, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
- SupportAs I understand this is possibly a significant change in Pakistan's policy towards the Taliban. --Johnsemlak (talk) 16:08, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
- Support, a little late. -SusanLesch (talk) 19:04, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
- SupportAs I understand this is possibly a significant change in Pakistan's policy towards the Taliban. --Johnsemlak (talk) 16:08, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
- There are a few visible problems: (1) The update is too short, (2) the "update" doesn't mention dates and only has short sentences, (3) only one new reference. Cargoking talk 07:37, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
October 16
- Voters in Botswana take part in a general election. (IOL) (Al Jazeera)
- The United States records a budget deficit of $1.42 trillion. (Bloomberg)
- Stephen Gately:
- The surviving members of Boyzone fly to Majorca to escort the body of Stephen Gately home to Dublin. (RTÉ) (BBC) (The Belfast Telegraph) (The Irish Times)
- The UK Press Complaints Commission's website crashes after receiving hundreds of complaints about a Jan Moir article in the Daily Mail concerning her views on the singer's death. Retailer Marks & Spencer withdraws advertising and Nestlé disassociates itself from her writing. (Daily Mail Primary Source) (The Guardian) (BBC) (The Irish Times) (The Huffington Post)
- Treaty of Lisbon:
- Czech Prime Minister Jan Fischer says President Václav Klaus's disruption of the Treaty of Lisbon is harming the country's credit. (Ceske Noviny)
- An opinion poll shows that 65% of Czechs support President Václav Klaus’ refusal to sign the Lisbon Treaty. (Wall Street Journal)
- A strong earthquake hits Indonesia, causing mass panic and evacuations in Jakarta. (CNN)
- The United Nations Human Rights Council endorses the Goldstone report on the Gaza War, accusing both Israel and Hamas of war crimes. (Jerusalem Post) (AFP) (Al Jazeera)
- Five men are convicted in Sydney, Australia of plotting a terrorist attack. (news.com.au) (The Sydney Morning Herald)
- One part of Movement for the Emancipation of the Niger Delta (MEND) ends a three-month ceasefire and resumes attacks on the oil industry in Nigeria. (BBC) (Reuters) (IOL)
- Guinea
- Guinea's civil service minister Alpha Diallo resigns after a massacre of opposition supporters, following agriculture minister Abdourahmane Sanoh who resigned days earlier. (IOL)
- The Secretary-General of the United Nations Ban Ki-moon announces plans to establish a commission into the killing of unarmed protestors in Guinea last month. (AP via Google News)
- Australian pop singer, songwriter, and actress Kylie Minogue makes her Hindi cinema debut in Blue, thought to be the most expensive Bollywood production ever. (The Times)
- At least seven people are killed and at least ten are injured in an explosion at a mosque, police station and passenger bus in Peshawar, Pakistan. (Xinhua) (RTÉ) (BBC)
- In Berlin, the reconstructed Neues Museum officially reopens after 70 years. (Deutsche Welle) (The Times)
- Zimbabwe:
- The MDC partially pulls out of the unity government with Zanu PF in Zimbabwe after one of their members, Roy Bennett is detained on terrorism charges. (Zim Online) (Associated Press) (Xinhua)
- Roy Bennett is later released from jail on bail, ordered by the High Court. (Reuters) (Associated Press)
- North and South Korea fail to agree on further family reunions, after the North linked the prospect with humanitarian aid deliveries. (Korea Times) (Straits Times)
- Controversial Dutch politician Geert Wilders arrives in the UK amid protests from the Netherlands, proclaiming "a victory for the freedom of speech". (CNN) (The Guardian) (Reuters)
- Uruguay becomes the first country to provide a laptop for every child attending state primary school. (BBC)
- German heavy metal band Rammstein releases their seventh album, Liebe ist für Alle Da in Germany.
ITN candidates for October 16
Uruguay
- "Uruguay has become the first country to provide a laptop for every child attending state primary school". One Laptop per Child? --candle•wicke 03:55, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
- Or maybe not... is there a contradiction somewhere? --candle•wicke 04:01, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
- Niue is not a sovereign nation, as it is in free association with New Zealand. Therefore it depends what you class as a 'country'. Modest Genius talk 17:44, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
- Support in that case. -SusanLesch (talk) 19:05, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
- Niue is not a sovereign nation, as it is in free association with New Zealand. Therefore it depends what you class as a 'country'. Modest Genius talk 17:44, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
Goldstone Report endorsed by UNHCR
- Nom: The United Nations Human Rights Council endorses the Goldstone report on the Gaza War, accussing both Israel and Hamas of war crimes. --Hapsala (talk) 14:16, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
- Support. Any objections? --BorgQueen (talk) 20:27, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
- Support. -SusanLesch (talk) 20:41, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
Sydney conviction
Do we have an article on this? --BorgQueen (talk) 02:15, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
- Oh, we have 2005 Sydney terrorism plot. Anyone willing to update? --BorgQueen (talk) 02:32, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
a-ha split after 25 years
Nominated because 25 years is a long time for a band to be continually popular, there is evidence of continuing international success (see chart positions of latest album Foot of the Mountain, released in 2009, for example, where it went to number one in Germany and number five in the UK as verified by Reuters India), the a-ha article claims 26 million album sales by 1994 and world tours including Argentina, Australia, Brazil, Chile, Japan, Lebanon, Senegal, South Africa plus most of Europe (UK, Russia, France, Germany, etc) so they are known on every continent. Reuters India says they have sold more than 70 million records including singles. From BBC, "They even broke a world record at Rio de Janeiro's Maracana Stadium in 1991, when 196,000 fans paid to see them" and were "invited to play the Nobel Peace Prize concert in 1998". --candle•wicke 01:54, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
- No one interested? Not even an oppose? :P --candle•wicke 23:08, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
- So haven't they broken up once before?--Johnsemlak (talk) 04:50, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
Botswana general election, 2009
- Botswana holds the Botswana general election, 2009, the winning party gets to chose the president. The incumbent Botswana Democratic Party will be looking for their tenth successive victory - Dumelow (talk) 16:27, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
- Support. -SusanLesch (talk) 04:44, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
- Really interesting coat of arms as well if an image is needed... --candle•wicke 19:30, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
- Yeah I was going to mention that, was quite impressed by the zebras. Anyway the ruling party has claimed the victory as they have already won the majority of seats. Official results counted for only 35 of 57 seats so far (per electoral commission website). - Dumelow (talk) 19:47, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
- Really interesting coat of arms as well if an image is needed... --candle•wicke 19:30, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
Neues Museum
- Neues Museum, home of the iconic Nefertiti bust, reopens after 70 years. --bender235 (talk) 09:47, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
- Support when updated. --BorgQueen (talk) 20:37, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
- Support. -SusanLesch (talk) 22:14, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
- Support. --candle•wicke 23:08, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
- Support BBC Radio 4's In Our Time just did a show on Akhenaten, Nefertitit's husband, which discussed the significance of that bust (It's one of the few widely known images of a woman from the Ancient World).--Johnsemlak (talk) 06:50, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
- Support. --candle•wicke 23:08, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
- Support. -SusanLesch (talk) 22:14, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
- I generally support but the article has no references (footnotes). When this is fixed, I can post it. --Tone 18:03, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
October 15
- Treaty of Lisbon:
- Czech President Václav Klaus's disruption of the Treaty of Lisbon is deemed "absurd, irresponsible and damaging to the country" by his predecessor Václav Havel. (The Times)
- President of Ireland Mary McAleese signs the Lisbon Treaty after returning from Luxembourg. (RTÉ) (Reuters) (Taiwan News)
- Ugandan MP David Bahati proposes creating a capital offence of "aggravated homosexuality" for gay sex with people under 18, disabled people or when the accused is HIV-positive. (BBC)
- The U.N. General Assembly elects Bosnia and Herzegovina, Brazil, Gabon, Lebanon and Nigeria to the U.N. Security Council as non-veto-holding members. (Reuters)
- Narges Kalhor, the daughter of a senior adviser to President of Iran Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, applies for asylum in Germany. (Reuters)
- Burma and Bangladesh send warships to a disputed area in the Bay of Bengal 50 nmi (93 km) west of St. Martin's Island. (Mizzima)
- Three of the five members of the Norwegian Nobel Committee initially argued against awarding U.S. President Barack Obama the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize. (AFP via Google News) (Primary source: Verdens Gang)
- North Korea accuses South Korea of intruding into its territorial waters, further raising tensions on the Korean Peninsula. (Yonhap) (Reuters) (AFP)
- Palestinians have urged the UN to act to punish Israel for its offensive in the Gaza Strip last winter. (BBC) (Ha'aretz)
- At least 37 people are killed in a series of bomb attacks in Pakistani cities by militants. (The News)[permanent dead link] (Bloomberg) (Indian Express)
- A further six people are sentenced to death over ethnic unrest in China's Xinjiang region in July. (China Daily) (Al Jazeera) (BBC)
- The International Criminal Court opens an investigation into the suppression of an opposition protest in Guinea, in which dozens of people were killed. (Associated Press)
- Finland becomes the first country in the world to declare Internet broadband access a legal right. (CNN)
- The ruling party in Malaysia, the United Malays National Organisation, announces internal reforms after a series of defeats in local elections. (Al Jazeera) (Bernama)
- Militants launch attacks on police in Lahore, the capital of Punjab province, in Pakistan, killing 31 people after a week of violence in which more than 100 people died. (Reuters)
- Norwegian pop trio a-ha announce they are to split after 25 years together. (BBC) (The Daily Telegraph) (The Independent)
- A worldwide media circus surrounds an incident in which a six-year-old boy is alleged to be flying in a homemade hot-air balloon; the boy was later found safe at home. (CNN)
ITN candidates for October 15
EU and South Korea trade deal
- The European Union and South Korea have signed a trade deal that could be worth up to 19bn euros ($28bn; £17bn) to European exporters. Cargoking talk 19:14, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
- "The deal would remove most of the trade tariffs between the two partners". Sounds significant. --candle•wicke 09:16, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
Ali Khamenei
I just noticed this. We might want to keep an eye on Ali Khamenei#Unconfirmed death reports of October 2009 to see if it gets officially confirmed. --BorgQueen (talk) 04:50, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
- He seems to be regular target of such rumors. Wait and see.--yousaf465' 05:36, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
Magnetic monopoles
Physicists have finally discovered magnetic monopoles. I don't have time to update the article now, but the Nature paper is at [3] and it's getting some (rather simplistic) news coverage (e.g. BBC [4]) Modest Genius talk 02:00, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
- Support, this is a pretty significant find. Article could use more of an update though (find is only mentioned in the lead at the moment) - Dumelow (talk) 12:24, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
- support, this seems pretty groundbreaking--UltraMagnusspeak 12:26, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
- Well, if you read the paper carefully, those are not the real monopole particles but rather something that behaves this way. Besides, the first paper on this was published over a month ago. So I am not that enthusiastic about putting this on ITN. At least not as a blurb "Magnetic monopoles were discovered". --Tone 15:34, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
- Of course, these are quasi-particles, not free monopoles. This is the same situation as phonons and holes, but no-one denies the particle nature of these. Having re-read the Nature paper and talked this through with some solid-state physicists (I am only an astronomer), a more precise description would be "physicists determine the elemental charge of magnetic monopoles for the first time" and/or "physicists measure a magnetic current (magnetricity) for the first time". Quite how and where this would be incorporated into our articles is another matter. Modest Genius talk 17:35, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
Multiple simultaneous attacks
I'm going to create the article.--yousaf465' 04:27, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
- Here is the article 2009 October Lahore attacks.--yousaf465' 07:08, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
- Support. Notable event. Offliner (talk) 07:33, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
October 14
- Negotiators in Honduras reach a deal to restore President Manuel Zelaya to office to end the political crisis in the country. (CBC) (AFP) (Xinhua)
- Opposition politicians walk out of the Russian lower house of parliament, the State Duma, alleging vote rigging at the weekend's elections which saw the United Russia party winning nearly every poll. (BBC) (The Malaysia Star) (RIA Novosti)
- Philippines:
- Irish bishops and politicians request the release of 79-year-old Michael Sinnott, saying he needs urgent medical attention. (ABS-CBN)
- The kidnappers are identified as notorious pirates, not the Moro Islamic Liberation Front as had been initially thought. (BBC) (Xinhua)
- The Philippines asks the country's largest Muslim separatist group to help find and free the kidnapped Irish priest. (Reuters) (BBC) (The Belfast Telegraph)
- The United Nations warns that malnutrition is getting worse. (BBC)
- Armenian President Serzh Sargsyan visits Turkey to attend a qualifying match between the nations for the FIFA World Cup. Turkish fans boo the Armenian anthem. (BBC)
- The Dow Jones closes above 10,000 points for the first time in more than a year. (The New York Times)
- Korean founder and leader of the worldwide Unification Church, Sun Myung Moon, holds a mass wedding ceremony for some 1,000 couples near Seoul. (Reuters)
- Tim Berners-Lee issues an apology for the unnecessary "//" in URLs he designed for the World Wide Web. (BBC) (The Daily Telegraph)
- A Zimbabwean court orders a senior MDC official, Roy Bennett, back to jail on terrorism charges. (Al Jazeera) (South Africa Times)
- Iraq's Human Rights Ministry announces at least 85,000 Iraqis have been killed by bombs, murders and fighting between 2004 and 2008. (Associated Press) (Al Jazeera)
ITN candidates for October 14
October 13
- The planned 200 million US$ rebuilding and expansion of Stockholm's central library, built by architect Gunnar Asplund, is cancelled. (SR)
- Members of the Norwegian Nobel Peace Prize jury speak out in defense of selecting U.S. President Barack Obama for the award. (AP via Google News)
- Czech President Václav Klaus tells his supporters he will never sign the Treaty of Lisbon. (The Times)
- Séamus Kirk is elected the 16th Ceann Comhairle of Ireland following the resignation of John O'Donoghue. (RTÉ)
- An autopsy on the body of Boyzone singer Stephen Gately finds he died of natural causes. (The Irish Times) (CNN) (CBC) (The Times of India) (Sofia Echo)
- New Zealand police say an autopsy on two-year-old Aisling Symes reveals she drowned. She had initially been thought abducted but lay in a drain for one week as police searched. (news.com.au) (RTÉ) (The Daily Telegraph)
- A previously unrecognized painting, La Bella Principessa, is attributed to Leonardo da Vinci on fingerprint evidence. (BBC)
- The Philippines deploys soldiers and gunboats to surround the strongholds of suspected militants and pressure them to release an abducted Irish priest. (CBC)
- The Romanian government loses a motion of no confidence, the first government to fall in 20 years since the fall of communism in the country. (HotNews) (AFP)
- A Russian court rejects a libel suit by Yevgeny Dzhugashvili, the grandson of Joseph Stalin, who claimed the Novaya Gazeta newspaper lied about Stalin personally signing death warrants. (RIA Novosti) (The Daily Telegraph)
- Spanish authorities arrest five members of the banned Basque political group Batasuna. (BBC) (Press TV)
- North and South Korea agree to hold talks on flood control and family reunions, after North Korea fired several short range missiles earlier this week. (Joongang Daily) (Yonhap) (BBC)
- Angola and the Democratic Republic of the Congo agree to stop deporting each other's citizens in a dispute between the two countries. (The New York Times) (BBC)
- More than 260 Sri Lankan asylum seekers threaten to blow up their boat if Indonesian authorities force them to disembark. (The Australian)
- South African police use tear gas to disperse protesters demonstrating against poor living conditions in several towns. (Al Jazeera) (Associated Press)
- The United States Senate Finance Committee approves a bill for major healthcare reform. (BBC News)
- An investigation begins into the deaths of two Irish Army Air Corps pilots in a plane crash in County Galway on Monday. (BBC) (RTÉ) (RIA Novosti) (Sky News)
ITN candidates for October 13
Ceann Comhairle to resign
John O'Donoghue Ceann Comhairle of Dáil Éireann is to resign [5]. Cargoking talk 17:00, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
- This position is not equivalent to president or prime minister, is it? In that case, I oppose. --Tone 07:21, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
- No, only the speaker. Cargoking talk 16:59, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
- Resignation of speaker in Westminster went in, so did nomination of the equivalent in Washington... Kevin McE (talk) 17:25, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
- I would not support any of those two... --Tone 17:33, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
- I will support and would most likely if it was another country too. If it is nominated and updated, why should it not go up when it isn't London or Washington? Since London and Washington have already been included I cannot therefore oppose. Particularly since it has so many similarities with the Martin case (The Australian even makes that comparison) and the expenses claims are no less questionable either, i.e. a £1 charity donation to UNICEF in Scotland, the limousines around Heathrow, Venice, Hong Kong, the Melbourne Cup, Ryder Cup in the United States, football matches across Europe in which Ireland was not even competing, the Cannes controversy. It seems he was carrying this out while abroad so many countries are brought into the affair. --candle•wicke 19:19, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
- Support. -SusanLesch (talk) 02:57, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
- What was the similar story reported regarding the US? In any case, I'm not sure the fact that equivalent events in the US and the UK mean that it must be reported if it happens in another country. We wouldn't posting the resignation of the speaker of parliament of Bermuda. Now, Ireland is not Bermuda and there are unusual circumstances here, so it is somewhat notable.--Johnsemlak (talk) 15:01, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
- Well, The Times says this is the first time it has happened in Ireland if that helps. --candle•wicke 20:09, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
- (Bar one as a result of health.) Cargoking talk 20:32, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
- Well, since there seems to be a shortage and the article already has a section devoted to his resignation:
John O'Donoghue resigns as Ceann Comhairle of Dáil Éireann after a controversy over his expenses.
--candle•wicke 02:02, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
- Well, since there seems to be a shortage and the article already has a section devoted to his resignation:
- (Bar one as a result of health.) Cargoking talk 20:32, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
- Well, The Times says this is the first time it has happened in Ireland if that helps. --candle•wicke 20:09, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
- What was the similar story reported regarding the US? In any case, I'm not sure the fact that equivalent events in the US and the UK mean that it must be reported if it happens in another country. We wouldn't posting the resignation of the speaker of parliament of Bermuda. Now, Ireland is not Bermuda and there are unusual circumstances here, so it is somewhat notable.--Johnsemlak (talk) 15:01, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
- Support. -SusanLesch (talk) 02:57, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
- I will support and would most likely if it was another country too. If it is nominated and updated, why should it not go up when it isn't London or Washington? Since London and Washington have already been included I cannot therefore oppose. Particularly since it has so many similarities with the Martin case (The Australian even makes that comparison) and the expenses claims are no less questionable either, i.e. a £1 charity donation to UNICEF in Scotland, the limousines around Heathrow, Venice, Hong Kong, the Melbourne Cup, Ryder Cup in the United States, football matches across Europe in which Ireland was not even competing, the Cannes controversy. It seems he was carrying this out while abroad so many countries are brought into the affair. --candle•wicke 19:19, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
- I would not support any of those two... --Tone 17:33, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
- Resignation of speaker in Westminster went in, so did nomination of the equivalent in Washington... Kevin McE (talk) 17:25, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
- No, only the speaker. Cargoking talk 16:59, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
Congo expels Angolans
The Democratic Republic of Congo has expelled 20,000 Angolan citizens in retaliation for Angola's deportation of illegal Congolese miners. No idea where the article would be, perhaps Foreign relations of Angola? Seems like a pretty big event though (BBC) - Dumelow (talk) 11:29, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
- Support. It could be added to the Angola or Democratic Republic of Congo article maybe. -SusanLesch (talk) 02:57, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
- Foreign relations of Angola is updated. -SusanLesch (talk) 03:55, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
- Nice work Susan. I see the story has progressed. Something along the lines of:"Angola and the Democratic Republic of Congo agree to stop deporting each others citizens after recent expulsions of tens of thousands of people" would sum up the situation but it is a bit wordy. I am sure someone will come up with a better tagline - Dumelow (talk) 10:46, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
- Foreign relations of Angola is updated. -SusanLesch (talk) 03:55, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
October 12
- The 60th International Astronautical Congress opens in Daejeon, South Korea, with approximately 3,000 space experts from more than 70 countries attending. (UPI)
- The death toll from a blast in Pakistan's Shangla District has reached at least 41, with a further 45 injured. (APP) (AFP)
- Elinor Ostrom and Oliver Williamson win the Nobel Prize for Economics. (The Economic Times) (Bloomberg)
- Edgar Allan Poe receives a funeral in Baltimore, USA, 160 years after his death and 200 after his birth. (BBC)
- Kai Eide of Norway, the top United Nations official in Afghanistan, acknowledges "widespread fraud" took place during the recent presidential election in the country. (The Independent)
- Six Uyghurs are sentenced to death over riots in the western region of Xinjiang, China in July. (China Daily) (BBC) (Bernama) (RIA Novosti)
- A large fire sweeps through a shanty town in Sao Paulo, Brazil, leaving at least 200 families without homes. (BBC) (Associated Press)
- The government in East Timor faces a motion of no confidence after releasing an Indonesian militia member, Martenus Bere, accused of crimes against humanity a decade ago. (Jakarta Post) (AFP)
- The pro-Kremlin United Russia party wins around 80% of regional and local seats in elections held in 76 regions in Russia. Opposition alleges vote rigging (RTÉ) (Taiwan News) (Xinhua)
- Two people are injured in a bomb attack in Milan, Italy, after a Libyan man explodes a device at the entrance of an army barracks. (Adnkronos) (Associated Press)
- India test fires two medium range Prithvi II missiles in the eastern state of Orissa. (Press Trust of India) (BBC) (Press TV)
- Guineans observe an opposition strike to commemorate those who died at an opposition rally last month. (BBC) (Angola Press)
- North Korea fires five short range missiles into the Sea of Japan, after issuing a "no sail zone" for waters off its east and west coasts until October 20. (Yonhap) (BBC) (Xinhua)
- The body of two-year-old Aisling Symes, who disappeared last week in New Zealand, is located in a drain in Henderson, Auckland, near the place where she was last sighted. (TVNZ) (RTÉ) (Sky News) (The Daily Telegraph) (IOL)
ITN candidates for October 12
Presidents Cup
The United States wins the 2009 Presidents Cup 19.5 to 14.5 -Deserted Cities (talk) 08:51, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
- Recurring item, surprised it hasn't been posted yet. Deserted Cities (talk) 08:54, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
- Because, per ITN policy, there needs to be a referenced prose update that summarises the final day's play --Daviessimo (talk) 19:34, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
- It would appear that this is the 4th straight sports-related event on ITN/R that isn't being posted due to lack of references or similar issues. It's not really a matter of debate here since it's on ITN/R but I would question whether the the President's Cup is notable enough for ITN.--Johnsemlak (talk) 03:52, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
- Because, per ITN policy, there needs to be a referenced prose update that summarises the final day's play --Daviessimo (talk) 19:34, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
Death of Arturo "Zambo" Cavero
Thousands of people of people attended his state funeral and he was given a posthumous award. --candle•wicke 03:27, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
Irish National Liberation Army puts down its weapons
"The Irish Republican Army (IRA) splinter group, responsible for some of the most notorious killings of the Northern Ireland conflict". "The objective of a 32-county socialist republic will be best achieved through exclusively peaceful political struggle". "Among its most infamous members was Dominic "Mad Dog" McGlinchey, once Ireland's most wanted men". Reaction. HRC was around to do some "bucking up" as well. --candle•wicke 00:45, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
- Leaning toward support... although I wonder if they will really keep their words. --BorgQueen (talk) 00:49, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
The Irish National Liberation Army announces an end to its armed struggle.
--candle•wicke 01:32, 12 October 2009 (UTC)- Nice work, but given the controversial nature of the article topic, I'd like to wait for someone else's support before posting. --BorgQueen (talk) 02:28, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
- Well I think we should go ahead.--yousaf465' 02:33, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
- Nice work, but given the controversial nature of the article topic, I'd like to wait for someone else's support before posting. --BorgQueen (talk) 02:28, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
Nobel Memorial Prize in Economic Sciences
"Announcement of the Sveriges Riksbank Prize in Economic Sciences in Memory of Alfred Nobel will be held on Monday, October 12, 1:00 p.m. CET at the earliest." [6] --BorgQueen (talk) 16:33, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
- Support. Elinor Ostrom and Oliver E. Williamson won it. --bender235 (talk) 11:13, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
- How about "Elinor Ostrom and Oliver E. Williamson win the 2009 Nobel Memorial Prize in Economics." --Natrajdr (talk) 11:25, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
- Posting. The article are updated. --Tone 12:01, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
- How about "Elinor Ostrom and Oliver E. Williamson win the 2009 Nobel Memorial Prize in Economics." --Natrajdr (talk) 11:25, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
October 11
- Luis Armando Pena Soltren, a suspect wanted for the 1968 hijacking of Pan Am Flight 281, is captured after more than 40 years. (The Associated Press) (CNN)
- Thousands of people attend the state funeral of Arturo "Zambo" Cavero in Lima, Peru. President Alan García posthumously awards him the Order of the Sun. (BBC)
- Mayoral, regional and district council elections take place in Moscow and 75 other regions across Russia. (RIA Novosti) (The Guardian) (BBC)
- Thousands of people march in protest for gay rights in Washington, D.C.. (BBC)
- An Irish priest, Michael Sinnot, is seized from a convent and taken away in a motorboat by gunmen in Pagadian City, Mindanao in the southern Philippines. (BBC) (RTÉ) (Miami Herald)[permanent dead link]
- At least 10 people die and seven are declared missing in a river ferry sinking on the Mekong in Kratié Province, Cambodia. (The News International) (Al Jazeera)
- Pope Benedict XVI canonizes five new saints: Father Damien, Rafael Arnáiz Barón, Zygmunt Szczęsny Feliński, Francisco Coll Guitart, and Jeanne Jugan. (Reuters) (Times of India)
- A spate of car bombings kills 19 people and wounds dozens in the western Iraqi city of Ramadi, in Anbar province. (MSNBC)
- Pakistani commandos storm an office building and rescue 39 people taken hostage by suspected Taliban militants after an attack on the army's headquarters in the city of Rawalpindi. (Reuters)
- The Irish National Liberation Army (INLA) announces an end to violence in Northern Ireland. (Xinhua) (The Guardian) (ABC News)
ITN candidates for October 11
Nigerian road accident kills 70+
This seems much in excess of any regular traffic accident. Involving five minibuses and a petrol tanker 70+ killed on Friday. No article that I could find. (BBC) - Dumelow (talk) 23:05, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
Benedict XVI canonizes five new saints
Do we have articles on any of the latest saints? [7] To be honest, I am not a big fan of the Roman Catholic Church but this is probably a significant news for Christian population. --BorgQueen (talk) 14:04, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
- Oh, we have Father Damien (pictured). --BorgQueen (talk) 14:20, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
- I don't know... there are so many but perhaps five more at once is unusual. --candle•wicke 14:48, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
- I think probably Father Damien alone is notable enough. According to the source above, "there is even a statue of Damien in the U.S. Congress." --BorgQueen (talk) 14:50, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
- I don't know... there are so many but perhaps five more at once is unusual. --candle•wicke 14:48, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
- I think this is a good ITN topic, we can write something like Pope canonizes 5 saints, among them Father Damien (pictured). The article is in good shape. --Tone 16:07, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
- Posting soon. --BorgQueen (talk) 17:16, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
- Hold on. The other articles are in pretty poor shape. List of canonizations gives six names, two of which are still red links. Zygmunt Szczęsny Feliński is still a substub. Why should Father Damien be singled out? Physchim62 (talk) 18:19, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
- Oppose in that case, until Zygmunt Szczęsny Feliński and Francisco Coll Guitart are properly updated/created. I've corrected the error on List of canonizations based on the Catholic News Agency report, which should be a fairly reliable source on such matters ;) Physchim62 (talk) 18:34, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
- Posting soon. --BorgQueen (talk) 17:16, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
Death of Stephen Gately
- Is this notable? His he a key figure in his field of expertise? (Death criteria: The deceased was a key figure in their field of expertise, and died unexpectedly or tragically.) Coverage already from (RTÉ), (Telegraph), (ITN), (Thaindian), (CNN), (Los Angeles Times), (New Zealand Herald), (Belfast Telegraph), (Malaysian Star), (Gulf News), (Myanmar News), (The Seoul Times), (NEWS.com.au). Cargoking talk 08:16, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
- Key figure is stretching it a bit, I think. --PlasmaTwa2 09:22, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
- Depends on the reaction though. Adding a few points for now. Link to the The New Zealand Herald and link to The Age covers two large countries in the southern hemisphere showing his popularity there. Early reaction from former Taoiseach Bertie Ahern here (notice how he works his book launch in — "he came to my book launch") "'Boyzone and Stephen, they've all been part of Irish life and far wider than that, the last 15 years, and so successful, so it's a huge, huge tragedy. It's so sad. He was 33 years of age, 15 years at the top, a fine musician, it's just a huge tragedy to Irish entertainment, Irish music and further afield as well." And are my eyes deceiving me but is this the most popular story on CNN? Shall have to watch this one for further reaction... --candle•wicke 09:40, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
- I must agree with Plasma and say that it is a real stretch to call Gately a key figure. A check of his works, both solo and as part of Boyzone, shows significant popularity within his Irish homeland and some success within the UK but outside the British isles he appears to have been little more than a one-hit wonder. --Allen3 talk 10:39, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
- Comment: If hits are anything to go on or helps in any way he is currently #1 with 32,000+ hits. Boyzone is second with only 9,500... others in the top ten: Louis Walsh at eight and Ronan Keating at nine. Michael Jackson is only 13th... I don't know if it is possible to say that all those readers are in Ireland... --candle•wicke 13:05, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
Oppose per death criteria. A sad, unexpected loss – yes. A key figure – no. Sorry, Rambo's Revenge (talk) 13:28, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
- This death has garnered attention throughout the world, from Sweden to Hungary to the UK to Turkey, to name a few countries. He was an important member of one of the biggest music groups of the 90s. When you talk about 90s boybands, you've got New Kids on the Block, Backstreet Boys and 'N Sync in the US and Boyzone and Take That in Europe. That makes him important enough for ITN, in my opinion. I think Stephen Gately qualifies under rule 2: he was a very important figure in his field of expertise (pop music), and he was recognised as such. But even if he doesn't meet the strict letter of the criteria, he meets the spirit of it. I support putting this on ITN. 94.212.31.237 (talk) 13:52, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
- I have seen it mentioned in a lot of news sources in different languages, German, Dutch, Belgian, Spanish, Swedish, Italian, Polish, Czech, Slovakian, etc, not mention several with different alphabets. This is a very difficult one to judge as it does seem to be in a lot of places and top in popularity in a lot of places (and Wikipedia) too. Vietnam I think this one is... --candle•wicke 14:47, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
- Oppose per Rambo. --Tone 16:37, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
- Never heard of him. Anyway, I tried to find some coverage about him in Russia, and I noticed that there are only Wikipedia articles about him in 10 languages. For a person of major international note, that's a very small number of languages to be covered by in Wikipedia.--Johnsemlak (talk) 16:54, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
- "I've never heard of him" is just about the worst reason to oppose this. Read the article on Boyzone, see the amount of awards Boyzone has won, see the enormous media coverage all over the world. That shows you just how notable and significant Gately was. 94.212.31.237 (talk) 17:23, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
- Hmmm... platinum and gold albums and singles in Australia are hard to ignore... most definitely not the British Isles... can his importance be measured exclusively by the amount of Wikipedias which have articles? --candle•wicke 17:30, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
- I wouldn't say WP articles are an exclusive factor, simply one of many. However I think only 10 languages is very low. By comparison, the band Oasis and Liam Gallagher, about whom there was some discussion of notability earlier, have considerably more.--Johnsemlak (talk) 17:36, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
- EDIT It's now 11 languages. Either I miscounted earlier or one's been added just now, which I would expect given the spike of attention.--Johnsemlak (talk) 17:59, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
- I'm not sure a sudden death at a young age in very mysterious circumstances is comparable to a split which was speculated upon for some time then stuttered into being only to take six weeks for one of them to verify it. It happened in August but was only confirmed a few days ago. They are also different genres and appeal to different audiences. Perhaps Boyzone are not the Oasis of pop and perhaps there is a higher interest in the well-being of rock music articles than pop music articles among Wikipedians? --candle•wicke 17:56, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
- I don't know about the relative notability of either, frankly. My statement of 'never heard of them' is really a statement of my lack of knowledge of the subject rather than a comment on notability. However, I assume 'sudden death at a young age in mysterious circumstances' is comparable to Heath Ledger. I believe his death wasn't reported on ITN.--Johnsemlak (talk) 18:05, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
- I don't know if Heath Ledger is comparable either. He may be known in less countries for instance. But, even so, that was nearly two years ago and ITN now seems to include a lot more deaths. Ledger's death was unfortunate timing, he might have a better chance now. --candle•wicke 18:22, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
- Anyway, I feel reasonably certain that posting this on MP will cause massive protests. Some people are already frowning upon the frequency of death-related items on ITN, and his pop celebrity status will only serve to make it worse. --BorgQueen (talk) 19:20, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) Yes, but it is difficult to ignore the widespread international attention across several continents within hours (look at the sources Cargoking provided from soon after it was announced), the fact that it is top story on many of these major news sites all day, the sudden nature of the death, the young age, and the fact that he is still the number one article on Wikipedia and has been all day—so I wonder how many of the almost 20,000 who viewed in the last hour alone would protest? Even Father Damien (with all due respect to him) is not that popular, managing only 7,000 when he is first put on the Main Page... this person might have been a celebrity but he had a career too even if his musical style may not have been to everybody's taste. He does seem important to pop music though. --candle•wicke 19:48, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
- Anyway, I feel reasonably certain that posting this on MP will cause massive protests. Some people are already frowning upon the frequency of death-related items on ITN, and his pop celebrity status will only serve to make it worse. --BorgQueen (talk) 19:20, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
- I don't know if Heath Ledger is comparable either. He may be known in less countries for instance. But, even so, that was nearly two years ago and ITN now seems to include a lot more deaths. Ledger's death was unfortunate timing, he might have a better chance now. --candle•wicke 18:22, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
- I don't know about the relative notability of either, frankly. My statement of 'never heard of them' is really a statement of my lack of knowledge of the subject rather than a comment on notability. However, I assume 'sudden death at a young age in mysterious circumstances' is comparable to Heath Ledger. I believe his death wasn't reported on ITN.--Johnsemlak (talk) 18:05, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
- I'm not sure a sudden death at a young age in very mysterious circumstances is comparable to a split which was speculated upon for some time then stuttered into being only to take six weeks for one of them to verify it. It happened in August but was only confirmed a few days ago. They are also different genres and appeal to different audiences. Perhaps Boyzone are not the Oasis of pop and perhaps there is a higher interest in the well-being of rock music articles than pop music articles among Wikipedians? --candle•wicke 17:56, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
- Hmmm... platinum and gold albums and singles in Australia are hard to ignore... most definitely not the British Isles... can his importance be measured exclusively by the amount of Wikipedias which have articles? --candle•wicke 17:30, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
- "I've never heard of him" is just about the worst reason to oppose this. Read the article on Boyzone, see the amount of awards Boyzone has won, see the enormous media coverage all over the world. That shows you just how notable and significant Gately was. 94.212.31.237 (talk) 17:23, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
- Never heard of him. Anyway, I tried to find some coverage about him in Russia, and I noticed that there are only Wikipedia articles about him in 10 languages. For a person of major international note, that's a very small number of languages to be covered by in Wikipedia.--Johnsemlak (talk) 16:54, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
- Oppose. I'd say no. He's probably famous in popular culture, but we've had enough deaths of (anglophone) pop culture people on ITN. We should concentrate on real-life news items. Offliner (talk) 19:36, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
- The death of a major artist is a real-life news item. 94.212.31.237 (talk) 19:52, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
- Oppose. His death is sad, but no, not notable enough in his field. Physchim62 (talk) 20:05, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
- The leading singer of one of the most notable bands in the 90s? If that isn't notable, I don't know what is. So ITN can include the death of a former Japanese minister or the leader of an uprising 60 years ago, but not a modern-day singer? 94.212.31.237 (talk) 20:09, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
- So what is a key figure? How many key figures does one "area of expertise" have? Was he among the top 5 pop vocalists in the world? Top 20? Top 100? How is "key-ness" determined? Kevin McE (talk) 23:16, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
- By the way media cover his death, for instance. The death of an insignificant singer won't be mentioned across the world. If a singer is only of interest to one country, his death will only be covered in that country. In this case, his death has been covered around the world, by leading news media from Ireland to Hungary to Australia to Turkey to Sweden, you name it. That just shows how big Stephen Gately was. 94.212.31.237 (talk) 23:39, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
- That proposal for a criteria depends enormously on other events on the same day. The death of Farah Fawcett Majors would undoubtedly have received far more coverage than it did if she had had the foresight to die a couple of days before Michael Jackson did so; Alice Stewart Trillin was probably not notable enough to have been listed even if Wikipedia had been about on the date of her death, but there again, who would have been? Press coverage is linked to popular appreciation, not "key-ness", and usually tabloid/celebrity criteria are carefully avoided in this project: lack of press coverage declared irrelevant in the case of UK Supreme Court last week. Kevin McE (talk) 05:48, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
- Press coverage is one measure, I never said it was the be all and end all. As I said, if a singer is insignificant, his death won't be covered, no matter how little other news there is that day. The fact that Stephen Gately's death has been covered across the world shows the enormous international interest in this case. Millions of people have probably come to Wikipedia to find more information about Stephen Gately. It is the most viewed article on Wikipedia at the moment. That should be saying something. 94.212.31.237 (talk) 07:59, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
- Hmm? Wikipedia was around on the date of her death History of Wikipedia#2001. ITN was, not in current form but the September 11 attacks were featured on the main page [8] and in fact they are often regarded as one of the early examples of wikipedia responding to recent events albeit in a manner many may not agree with today [9] [10]. Nil Einne (talk) 13:46, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
- Most searched topic on Google several days after his death. Two of the top three articles on Wikipedia at the moment concern him. --candle•wicke 20:57, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
- So what is a key figure? How many key figures does one "area of expertise" have? Was he among the top 5 pop vocalists in the world? Top 20? Top 100? How is "key-ness" determined? Kevin McE (talk) 23:16, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
- The leading singer of one of the most notable bands in the 90s? If that isn't notable, I don't know what is. So ITN can include the death of a former Japanese minister or the leader of an uprising 60 years ago, but not a modern-day singer? 94.212.31.237 (talk) 20:09, 11 October 2009 (UTC)