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So I went and grabbed a book infobox from another article to get the structure, and replaced all the content bits. But when I previewed that, it just showed the raw code. You can see what I mean in my userspace here: [[User:Gnfnrf/Feed]]. |
So I went and grabbed a book infobox from another article to get the structure, and replaced all the content bits. But when I previewed that, it just showed the raw code. You can see what I mean in my userspace here: [[User:Gnfnrf/Feed]]. |
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I am stumped as to why it isn't doing |
I am stumped as to why it isn't doing its magic thing where it makes with the infoboxing. I thought that just happened, and despite doing a lot of editing, I've never really learned much about the process. I feel like I'm missing something simple and important, but I can't figure out what. |
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So, the questions are, I suppose: What's going on, how do I fix it, and how stupid will I feel when I learn what I did wrong? [[User:Gnfnrf|gnfnrf]] ([[User talk:Gnfnrf|talk]]) 19:16, 25 July 2011 (UTC) |
So, the questions are, I suppose: What's going on, how do I fix it, and how stupid will I feel when I learn what I did wrong? [[User:Gnfnrf|gnfnrf]] ([[User talk:Gnfnrf|talk]]) 19:16, 25 July 2011 (UTC) |
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:I've [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Gnfnrf/Feed&diff=441397373&oldid=441394557 fixed the syntax error]. I can't predict how you will feel about it, though. A ''proper'' software environment would have told you what was wrong, of course. -- [[User:John of Reading|John of Reading]] ([[User talk:John of Reading|talk]]) 19:24, 25 July 2011 (UTC) |
:I've [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Gnfnrf/Feed&diff=441397373&oldid=441394557 fixed the syntax error]. I can't predict how you will feel about it, though. A ''proper'' software environment would have told you what was wrong, of course. -- [[User:John of Reading|John of Reading]] ([[User talk:John of Reading|talk]]) 19:24, 25 July 2011 (UTC) |
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::Thanks. That's actually not as bad (from my stupidity perspective) as I feared. I was imagining the answer was something like "Silly editor, only Glooberwatsit class articles can have templates, and this is a Shitzerpiggle!" meaning some basic concept existed about templates and infoboxes that I had never heard of. This is just a typo. I make typoes all the time. I probably would have found it eventually, but I didn't even consider that a typo in the box could break the entire thing like that. [[User:Gnfnrf|gnfnrf]] ([[User talk:Gnfnrf|talk]]) 19:47, 25 July 2011 (UTC) |
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== Image Dump from Suisun Bay, west coast US Mothball Fleet, USS Iowa, pics taken yesterday == |
== Image Dump from Suisun Bay, west coast US Mothball Fleet, USS Iowa, pics taken yesterday == |
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July 22
FEED
I'd just like to point out to helpdesk folk that, there's a whole bunch of people looking for help in;
Wikipedia:Requests for feedback/2011 July 17Struck, as that day now has some feedback - thanks to Obsidian Soul- Wikipedia:Requests for feedback/2011 July 18
- Wikipedia:Requests for feedback/2011 July 19
- Wikipedia:Requests for feedback/2011 July 20
- Wikipedia:Requests for feedback/2011 July 21
...etc. Cheers, Chzz ► 00:09, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
Lowercase title
Is anyone else seeing the title of this article as uppercase? Rymatz (talk) 00:22, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
- Fixed in [1]. The infobox set DISPLAYTITLE and only the last DISPLAYTITLE is effective. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:31, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
Can't make a redirect
Hi. I'm having a problem making a redirect with the name Sam Gray. Apparently, it got deleted three times and now it can't be used. The problem is, there is a notable person with that name, baseball player Dolly Gray, and he is referred to a number of sites, Baseball-Reference.com among them, as Sam Gray. Baseball-Reference uses alternate forms of some player names, and I'm wanting to make redirects from those alternate names to the names that are used on Wikipedia. I'm not planning on moving pages unless there's a good reason to. Anyway, the point is this: How can I make a redirect on that page? -- Transaspie (talk) 01:06, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
- I see that it's been taken care of...cool! Thanks! -- Transaspie (talk) 01:13, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
- Anytime. Since it was salted because of multiple creations (unrelated to this topic) I have protected the redirect.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 01:15, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
- Dolly Gray and Sam Gray (baseball) is the same person. They should be merged. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:46, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
HELP ~ Having trouble getting started?????
I am so confused, trying to build a page for Todd Gordon Actor & Male Super Model from the 1980s. You r missing one of the most famous super models in the world. & the first one ever to be on Cosmopolitan Magazine — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bydarlenek (talk • contribs) 02:32, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
- See Wikipedia:Your first article. --Jayron32 02:53, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
- And consider using the Article Wizard. – ukexpat (talk) 14:18, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
adding relevant links that appear to the computer as spam
My website/blog rebbeclips.com has videos of many different rabbis. I added links to the appropriate tag search to each wikipedia page corresponding to the video page on my site. i.e on the page for rabbi aron teitelbaum i posted a link to the page showing only his videos and on his brothers page i posted a link to the part of the site showing his videos. Now i got a warning that i might be spamming which i don't think i am since i am providing relevant information in the appropriate section of the page (external links) . Should i continue posting links? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.194.58.115 (talk) 04:25, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
- rebbeclips.com: Linksearch en - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • MER-C Cross-wiki • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced • COIBot-Local - COIBot-XWiki - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.org • Live link: http://www.rebbeclips.com
- Accounts
216.194.58.115 (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • blacklist hits • AbuseLog • what links to user page • COIBot • Spamcheck • count • block log • x-wiki • Edit filter search • WHOIS • RDNS • tracert • robtex.com • StopForumSpam • Google • AboutUs • Project HoneyPot)
216.194.58.38 (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • blacklist hits • AbuseLog • what links to user page • COIBot • Spamcheck • count • block log • x-wiki • Edit filter search • WHOIS • RDNS • tracert • robtex.com • StopForumSpam • Google • AboutUs • Project HoneyPot)
216.194.57.60 (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • blacklist hits • AbuseLog • what links to user page • COIBot • Spamcheck • count • block log • x-wiki • Edit filter search • WHOIS • RDNS • tracert • robtex.com • StopForumSpam • Google • AboutUs • Project HoneyPot)
--Hu12 (talk) 13:40, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
Created Books In Wikipedia Missing
I have created a book in wikipedia two times alreday and it is not there.... but i created it both the time in different systems but in the same id... now i hav created a new one. whats the point i\to creat a book if it goes missing every time i open wikipedia... so PLEASE HELP ME WITH THIS ISSUE.... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Victory0123456789 (talk • contribs) 06:04, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
- According to your User Contributions list - Special:Contributions/Victory0123456789 - this post here is the only thing you have ever done on Wikipedia. Did you use a different username before this post? Wikipedia is an encyclopedia consisting of articles about notable subjects only, so I can't figure out what your phrase "created a book" means. Roger (talk) 06:57, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
- According to Help:Books, you can only save a book if your user account is autoconfirmed (usually meaning at least four days old and 10 edits). So to use the "save book" feature you need to make nine more edits - perhaps by spending a few minutes on this list. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:13, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
- (e/c) I assume, Roger, that the OP is talking about WP:BOOKS. If you remember the title, you could look it up here, or the search facility there will let you find a word. - David Biddulph (talk) 07:19, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
- Ah yes, that makes sense! Surely Wikibooks has it's own help page? Roger (talk) 07:30, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
- Gosh, this is confusing. We're talking about three different things.
- English Wikipedia has a feature that allows users to create a 'book' of Wikipedia articles, which can be downloaded as a PDF, or ordered in print format. See Help:Books
- There are a bunch of editors working to improve articles about books, called Wikipedia:WikiProject Books.
- There is a separate wiki, called "Wikibooks", which allows editors to create open-content textbooks. It's at http://en.wikibooks.org/
- I suspect that Victory0123456789 is talking about the first one - so the response from John of Reading applies - ie, you can only save a book once your account is 4 days old, and you've made 10 edits (called autoconfirmed). Chzz ► 12:51, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
- Gosh, this is confusing. We're talking about three different things.
- Ah yes, that makes sense! Surely Wikibooks has it's own help page? Roger (talk) 07:30, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
Can you
Can you have 2 adopters??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ethanate1 (talk • contribs) 07:46, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
Struggling with page layout after adding a photo
I've added a photo to Velvet Sky (airline) but everywhere I've tried to place it messes up the overall layout of the page. Please help to find a satisfactory location for the image. Roger (talk) 07:47, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
- I reduced size to thumb and moved to left Bulwersator (talk) 08:19, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks. That position looks much better. Maybe it could be a little larger, on my screen (1366 x 768) it looks tiny , barely larger than a postage stamp. I wonder if there are statistics available about the most common current screen resolution? I'm not sure if mine is unusual. Is there a WP guideline on image sizes? Roger (talk) 08:45, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
- It is hard to calculate the most common screen res. Consider that an increasing number of people read Wikipedia on mobile telephones and other devices.
- Instead of forcing a specific image size, we normally use the "Thumb" option for images - that creates a standard-sized thumbnail, defaulting to 220px, but individual users can set their own preference - look under the 'Appearance' tab, in the "Files" box - there is a drop-down for "Thumbnail size".
- Maybe default thumbsize should be increased? Bulwersator (talk) 13:31, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
- Maybe so. In 2009, after a 2 week discussion, it was changed from 180px to 220px [2]. I'd suggest a bit more reading around / searching (e.g. [3]) and then, if you think it worthwhile, starting a discussion, on Wikipedia talk:Image use policy, or WP:VPP, or something. Chzz ► 13:48, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
- Maybe default thumbsize should be increased? Bulwersator (talk) 13:31, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
- In addition, note that non-free images such as that logo must be of 'low resolution' to comply with copyright law.
- For more on image use, see Wikipedia:MOSIMAGE. Chzz ► 12:37, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks. That position looks much better. Maybe it could be a little larger, on my screen (1366 x 768) it looks tiny , barely larger than a postage stamp. I wonder if there are statistics available about the most common current screen resolution? I'm not sure if mine is unusual. Is there a WP guideline on image sizes? Roger (talk) 08:45, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
Is it OK to delete old article and write new topic with the same title?
example? Bulwersator (talk) 08:17, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
- If it is about a completely different subject that just happens to have the same name it is probably better to create a new article and use disambiguation. If the existing article is blatant nonsense it is usually ok to simply overwrite it, but in most cases it's better to go through a proper deletion procedure if it is merely non-notable. Roger (talk) 08:50, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
- It surely was improper to usurp a title like that without waiting for a disposition on the old article's prod. —teb728 t c 10:03, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
- Is it proper way to fix mess: [4][5][6]? Bulwersator (talk) 11:01, 22 July 2011 (UTC) And this? Bulwersator (talk) 11:03, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
- It surely was improper to usurp a title like that without waiting for a disposition on the old article's prod. —teb728 t c 10:03, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
- He told me that it is typical edit covered by this. I am quite confused, it it possible for sb to explain this to him? Bulwersator (talk) 14:30, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
- By "rewrite", he meant "rewrite the page on the same topic, but in a better way." You read "rewrite" to mean "rewrite the page on a completely different topic." -- kainaw™ 14:40, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
- AFAIK this changed article topic from martial art to region. So maybe his linking to this rule is invalid... Bulwersator (talk) 14:53, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
- By "rewrite", he meant "rewrite the page on the same topic, but in a better way." You read "rewrite" to mean "rewrite the page on a completely different topic." -- kainaw™ 14:40, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
Personal narratives
can I write articles about one's experience in a city OR about an experience first day at school...so on..please help?--182.72.244.146 (talk) 10:24, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
- Sorry, but that is not something that is suitable for Wikipedia. Wikipedia is written from a neutral point of view and is primarily based on information from reliable secondary sources (and that is without even getting into the notability issues). I would suggest you start a blog or create a Facebook account, media which are specifically tailored for among other things the narration of personal experiences. --Saddhiyama (talk) 10:49, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
New article on Will Packwood
i submitted a new article on Will Packwood on Wednesday 20 July. I can't find it. Is it being reviewed? 11:52, 22 July 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rpackwood (talk • contribs)
- Because you didn't change the default title when you made it, it was called "User:Rpackwood/Enter your new article name here" - as a draft, but not submitted for review.
- I have moved it to the right place, and a better title - Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/William Packwood - and I've submitted it for a review. It might take several days before it is checked.
- You can always see all articles you've edited by clicking on "my contributions" at the top of any page (when logged in).
- It needs more / better references. "Youtube" is not a reliable source - good references are books, newspaper articles, magazines, etc. See WP:VRS, WP:BIO, and, for help on how to add them, Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners. Chzz ► 12:05, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
- I'm afraid the move is premature - it is still a very rough draft. I can't see it surviving review in this state. See WP:Your first article for more guidance on how to write for WP. I am actually a bit shocked that you would think you are competent to write a new article from scratch as your very first action on WP. You should first get some experience editing already existing articles before taking such a bold step. I was active here for more than a year bofore I dared to create my first new article. Roger (talk) 12:13, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
- In "Articles for creation", we try to help make articles live. There's no question of survival; an AFC is either accepted (and is made live), or is declined - in which case, it can be fixed and re-submitted.
- That specific submission is far better than the average. It just needs some formatting improvements - and the person who reviews it might help with that (or, Rpackwood might improve it - I've already left some help on their talk page).
- New editors are encouraged to be bold.
- I agree that editing some other, existing articles is a good idea, but I wouldn't want new users to be afraid to try things. Chzz ► 13:12, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
- How do you actually submit an article for review once you've written it as an article for creation? And how do you delete articles if you have accidentally created duplicates?Dvbyrne (talk) 16:53, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
- I'm afraid the move is premature - it is still a very rough draft. I can't see it surviving review in this state. See WP:Your first article for more guidance on how to write for WP. I am actually a bit shocked that you would think you are competent to write a new article from scratch as your very first action on WP. You should first get some experience editing already existing articles before taking such a bold step. I was active here for more than a year bofore I dared to create my first new article. Roger (talk) 12:13, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
Fictitious Articles
Dear Wikipedia,
I am currently writing some digital fiction, and would be interested to know if there would be any way to create deliberately fictitious articles in wikipedia (for example entries for individuals or which doesn't exist - which would be linked to within the text) without this clashing with your rules against hoaxes.
many thanks. 139.222.64.101 (talk) 13:02, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
- Not on English Wikipedia, no; it'd be outside the scope of this project. Maybe try elsewhere. Chzz ► 13:05, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
- If you tried that here and persisted beyond the usual round of warnings you would find yourself blocked in fairly short order. We have no tolerance for deliberate vandalism. That said, Uncyclopedia is a site that spoofs Wikipedia - all its content is deliberately false and generally quite hilarious. Roger (talk) 13:19, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
- The predicted results were right, but I see no need to characterize something as vandalism when a GF editor asked in advance if something were permissible. --SPhilbrickT 13:43, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
- I don't think we were really calling the initial poster a vandal, but Dodger is right in that such efforts are seen as vandalism, since they are the knowing insertion of falsehoods into Wikipedia, and we are not Facebook or MySpace, to be used as a blog. (I stopped one such author who did not have the courtesy to ask beforehand, and he got all whiney.) All I could suggest to the poster is that they set up their own pseudo-Wikipedia for the fake articles. --Orange Mike | Talk 15:37, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
- The predicted results were right, but I see no need to characterize something as vandalism when a GF editor asked in advance if something were permissible. --SPhilbrickT 13:43, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
- If you tried that here and persisted beyond the usual round of warnings you would find yourself blocked in fairly short order. We have no tolerance for deliberate vandalism. That said, Uncyclopedia is a site that spoofs Wikipedia - all its content is deliberately false and generally quite hilarious. Roger (talk) 13:19, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for asking about it and not doing it. The rule against it is Wikipedia:Do not create hoaxes and there are no exceptions. (I stopped a user who sarcastically thanked me for crushing imagination and creativity). PrimeHunter (talk) 00:10, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
Missing post on Talk page
I saw in my watchlist that a new post was made at Talk:Michele Bachmann, but when I went there to respond, I couldn't find it visually or using the search function. Any ideas? Drrll (talk) 13:04, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
- That post is there, on the page - near the end, under the heading "Needs a section on general reception by various commentators". Note, some other comments have been added after that one. If you still don't see it, try refreshing the page. Chzz ► 13:08, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
- Interesting. I still can't see it or find it with a search and I have refreshed the page. I do see it listed in the history of the Talk page. Drrll (talk) 13:13, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
- In that case, try a 'purge' by going to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Michele_Bachmann#Needs_a_section_on_general_reception_by_various_commentators?action=purge
- (See WP:PURGE if you want to know what that does)
- The specific text appears just above where you wrote, That was one of my main concerns.
- If it is still not there, could you please try rebooting; that solves 99% of oddness.
- And please let us know if that sorts things out or not. Best, Chzz ► 13:16, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
- Interesting. I still can't see it or find it with a search and I have refreshed the page. I do see it listed in the history of the Talk page. Drrll (talk) 13:13, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
Page is looking for an expert
Neti pot is requesting an expert to help develop the page.
Myself and our expert would like to offer our services to do so. We are the creators of the trademarked neti pot and our expert is a board certified internal medicine physician, homeopath, herbal doctor, and more. How do we offer our services? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Smoulton (talk • contribs) 13:46, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
- Because of your conflict of interest you should use the article's talk page at Talk:Neti pot to suggest improvements to the article, as indeed you have been doing. Note that any suggestions must not be promotional, must be presented from a neutral point of view, and must be supported by reliable sources. Also not that you and your expert must not share the same user account. Hope this helps. – ukexpat (talk) 14:29, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
Copyright question about File:Eden Pastora 02.jpg
Dear help desk, I have translated the article about Edén Pastora into Dutch, for the Dutch Wikipedia. I wanted to use the same photo on it, but it seems to be forbidden by copyright. That embarrasses me, because this photo is over 30 years old and the origin is in Nicaragua! So IF there should be a copyright limit, I'd expect it would have to be restrained to the Spanish Wikipedia and forbidden to the English one. How could it be that there is a US copyright to a picture that originates in another country?
I asked this 2 months ago to the one who uploaded the picture but unfortunately he doesn't answer. I hope someone else can help me, and even better, help me get that picture on the Dutch page. Thanks, Erik Wannee (talk) 15:18, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
- Someone may provide some help here, but the real experts in this subject hang out at IMAGEHELP.--SPhilbrickT 16:08, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
- Thank you! I have asked this question there. I'm sorry that I'm not so at home on the English WP because I'm Dutch. Erik Wannee (talk) 17:51, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
Is a wikipedia username the same thing as a wikipedia article title
Is a wikipedia username the same thing as a wikipedia article title — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.74.26.150 (talk) 16:45, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
- Certainly not! A username is the name by which a registered editor such as myself is known. A Wikipedia article title is that: the title of the article, using the most common name to tell us what that particular article is about, be it hamster or Albigensianism. --Orange Mike | Talk 16:50, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
- While user names and article titles are distinct things on Wikipedia, a few people have usernames on Wikipedia that are the same or nearly the same as the titles of articles about them, for example William Connolley and User:William M. Connolley. For more examples see Category:Connected contributors. However, this is true of only a very small percentage of Wikipedia's 47,584,670 registered accounts. The vast majority of Wikipedia editors are not notable enough to have their own articles here (waves hand). --Teratornis (talk) 02:50, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
Infobox interfering with image placement
An infobox is causing all the images to be displaced and displayed far lower than they should be. Is there a way to let the images keep their normal place in the markup? A tag I add to the infobox? Thanks! Dzlife (talk) 16:53, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
- On which article? Chzz ► 17:01, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
- Are you referring to Economy of Canada?--SPhilbrickT 17:04, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
- If you mean Economy of Canada and are concerned about the placement of the CRJ pic, which logically belongs close to the manufacturing section, I'll note that the Toronto-Dominion Centre pic doesn't really belongs in Manufacturing, and could be moved up to the Service Sector section, where it belongs, then the CRJ pic could be left-justified and moved up to its proper location. Does that work for you, or am I misunderstanding the concern?--SPhilbrickT 17:08, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
- Basically, all the pics are displaced. Even in the markup, they're supposed to be higher (the TD bank in the services section, the airplane pic in the manufacturing section). But it's the "Infobox economy" that's causing them all to be displaced down. Just removing the infobox would fix all the pictures. But obviously I don't want to do that. How do I get it so the infobox doesn't ruin the rest of the images? Dzlife (talk) 18:19, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
- This is a common problem; basically, any box-type object which is itself forced down the page will pull images with it. The alignment problem of the image The Toronto-Dominion Centre in Toronto is not that it's aligned to the bottom of
{{Infobox economy}}
: it's aligned to the top of{{Economy of Canada}}
(which is a navbar, not an infobox). Although that navbar is itself forced down the page, you couldn't really expect it to go any higher, being immediately below the{{Infobox economy}}
. Images which occur later on in the wikicode cannot float any higher than the upper edge of boxes which precede them. The easiest fix is to take{{Economy of Canada}}
and move it down the page. This is somewhat against the normal principle for navbars, but it's that or move all the images. - It should be noted that the problem varies between browsers. Firefox, Google Chrome, Opera and Safari behave as above (similarly to each other); but Internet Explorer 7 allows the images to take up their proper places - but pulls the text down. The result is a huge blank space between the heading "Manufacturing" and the text beginning "The general pattern of development for wealthy nations ..." - this text aligns with the top of the image Lufthansa CityLine the Bombardier CRJ family of aircraft are produced in Canada. (2010). --Redrose64 (talk) 22:23, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
- This is a common problem; basically, any box-type object which is itself forced down the page will pull images with it. The alignment problem of the image The Toronto-Dominion Centre in Toronto is not that it's aligned to the bottom of
- Basically, all the pics are displaced. Even in the markup, they're supposed to be higher (the TD bank in the services section, the airplane pic in the manufacturing section). But it's the "Infobox economy" that's causing them all to be displaced down. Just removing the infobox would fix all the pictures. But obviously I don't want to do that. How do I get it so the infobox doesn't ruin the rest of the images? Dzlife (talk) 18:19, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
- If you mean Economy of Canada and are concerned about the placement of the CRJ pic, which logically belongs close to the manufacturing section, I'll note that the Toronto-Dominion Centre pic doesn't really belongs in Manufacturing, and could be moved up to the Service Sector section, where it belongs, then the CRJ pic could be left-justified and moved up to its proper location. Does that work for you, or am I misunderstanding the concern?--SPhilbrickT 17:08, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
Anchors for section headings
I have tried to insert anchors for some sections headings that I have changed in the article Recycling. A test seems to show that I have made some mistake. --Hans Dunkelberg (talk) 17:30, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
- They seem to work - Recycling#Saves energy, Recycling#Saves money, Recycling#Saves trees. What's the problem? Chzz ► 17:33, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
- I also inserted the title of the main section ("Benefits and criticism") for the test. I thought I had also tested it without, but that does not seem to be the case. Thank You, I think I am more clever, now. --Hans Dunkelberg (talk) 17:39, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
Missing rating system
Sorry, but the rating system at the bottom of PocketBook eReader article is missing. Can you say something about it ?--Brainsteinko (talk) 17:45, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
- If you mean the 'rate this page' thing, shown here, that's the Article Feedback Tool, which is undergoing a trial only. It isn't on all articles - it's only on about 100,000 randomly selected articles on the English Wikipedia.
- For more info, see mw:Article feedback/FAQ. Chzz ► 17:59, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
Journal of Cosmology WIKI--biased, libelous, slanderous,
The Wiki article on the Journal of Cosmology is a biased hit piece designed to slander, defame, and destroy the reputation of the Journal of Cosmology, its editors, and its contributors. This bias is reflected by the removal of any information about the editorial board of the Journal of Cosmology, or the affiliation of its editor-in-chief which is the Harvard Smithsonian. As indicated on the masthead, in the "About" section of the Journal of Cosmology, editors include Sir Roger Penrose of Oxford, Joel Levine Senior Scientist Science Directorate at NASA, Michael Russell of JPL and NASA. This information has been deleted, twice, so as to present a biased view of the Journal. The Journal has also published special editions on Abiogenesis and the abiogenetic origins of life on Earth, but again, that information has been deleted to make it appear the the Journal exposes only one point of view. Further, the slanderous allegations of individuals who are not cosmologists or astrobiologists and who are not even legitimate scientists, are given prominence. You also feature claims that the Journal was awarded the pig prize--this also constitutes slander and defamation, and no such prize was ever offered and the journal was never contacted about this issue. You also publish claims the journal does not peer review its articles, when there is no evidence, none, that these slanders have any validity. As to the Hoover controversy, the views of over 20 scientists who reviewed the Hoover article were published by the Journal of Cosmology, but Wiki chose instead to make mention of the only commentary which did not support the Hoover finding (e.g. Redfield).
Therefore, Wiki has deleted factual information, and instead has created a grossly inaccurate, biased page which constitutes slander and defamation the purpose of which is to destroy the reputation of the Journal of Cosmology, and this constitutes Trade Libel.
The slanderous allegations brings into dispute the legitimacy of every article published in the journal, including my own work. Therefore, I too, am a victim of the slanders and defamatory statements published by Wiki.
I am ccing this email to the editors and the Journal of Cosmology, and am urging them to take legal action.
If Wiki is incapable of presenting an unbiased description of the Journal of Cosmology, then wiki should remove the Journal of Cosmology page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.207.253.170 (talk) 20:07, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
- Rather than throwing around legal threats, have you tried to discuss this with other involved editors on the article's talk page? – ukexpat (talk) 20:13, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
- (Possible legal threat reported to Wikipedia:ANI#Possible_legal_threat. Rehevkor ✉ 20:18, 22 July 2011 (UTC))
- The IP address has been blocked from editing by an administrator for legal threats against Wikipedia. Alan the Roving Ambassador (User:N5iln) (talk) 21:09, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
- Also see WP:NOTWIKI. --Teratornis (talk) 22:13, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
- The IP address has been blocked from editing by an administrator for legal threats against Wikipedia. Alan the Roving Ambassador (User:N5iln) (talk) 21:09, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
A question on "Debye–Hückel equation"
Dear editor, In your article of "Debye–Hückel equation", you mentioned that the effective diameter for the hydronium ion is 9Å, but I found from other literature that it's different, could you please tell us what is your scientific basis of the effective diameter for the hydronium ion? That is to say, could you tell us which literature did you refer to? Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.93.162.245 (talk) 20:42, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
- A scan of the edit history of the Debye–Hückel equation article indicates that this claim has been in the article since at least 2006. The next sentence has a footnote reference to Skoog, Douglas A., Fundamentals of Analytical Chemistry, ISBN 0534417965. I don't know whether the original author of this tidbit got it from Skoog. When you pose a question about the content of an article to the Help desk it is unlikely that the author of that content will be reading the Help desk. There are other places to ask that are more likely to get the attention of the relevant content experts, such as Talk:Debye–Hückel equation and Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Chemistry. If you have reliable published sources that give one or more different values, you can cite them in the article. If you don't understand the mechanics of editing footnote references in Wikipedia, then you can list your sources on the talk pages and wait for other more experienced editors to work them in. Oddly, the hydronium ion article does not mention its effective diameter. --Teratornis (talk) 22:06, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
notability
How many independent sources are required for a topic to be considered notable? Is it acceptable for the sources to be from the same reporting agency as long as they are different articles?
Exactly what is considered reliable? Can blogs that were created by the source subject be considered as reliable? What about links to Facebook, twitter, foursquare, and other social media? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pirhounix (talk • contribs) 20:57, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
- You can answer some of these questions at WP:N and WP:RS. However, to clarify for you some of your direct questions:
- There is no magic number of good sources. Think of it more in terms of "how much of this person's life is documented by independent people in reliable sources" or "how much source text exists on this person." Someone may be the subject of a single book, but if its a complete biography of them, it may be enough. Or, someone may be the kind of person whose name has appeared in, say, a dozen newspaper articles, but never been in depth. It's not necessarily the number of sources, it is what and how much the sources have to say about this person's life.
- For the second part, what a person has to say about themselves may be reliable for basic information (for example, where they work, their birthdate, their basic biographical data), but it does not count for notability: Anyone can start a blog for free, even me, and it doesn't make me notable to do so. Links to social media are normally to be avoided (see WP:ELNO), though a single link to the subject's official website is usually OK.
- Any other questions? --Jayron32 21:06, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
Actually, yes, the information I gathered is about an organization. The last time I attempted the create a page for them it was removed by Somno, he stated "You need to prove more than the group's existence - you need to prove it is notable, according to Wikipedia's standards. This means that the foundation needs to have received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the foundation. This coverage needs to be verifiable. There are only seven links in Google to the foundation, and none of those are independent. It does not appear to have been covered in any newspapers. The proposed demolition of the hotel is notable, but unfortunately I have seen no proof that your organization is also notable"
So if I have several links to this organization would it be removed for the same reasons? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pirhounix (talk • contribs) 21:33, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
Also one of the other issues I have, is the official web page of the organization redirects to a blog. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pirhounix (talk • contribs) 21:40, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
- What do you mean by "several links to this organization"? Do you have several articles that were published by sources independent from the organization? If so, it would seem as though you're doing alright. It would help if you'd tell us what this organization is. The fact that their web site redirects to a blog isn't a major issue. If it's their official site, then it's the official site. Dismas|(talk) 21:45, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
Sorry, I have found at least 4 links so far that are from various sources, (2 are from the same news paper) making reference to the organization, and the official home page witch is a blog. The organization is Save the Hotel Pennsylvania Foundation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pirhounix (talk • contribs) 21:49, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
- Per the above mentioned WP:N, coverage of the subject should be "significant" and not just passing mentions. You say these sources make reference to the organization but the coverage should be more than just a passing mention. The source should be about the org. Dismas|(talk) 21:55, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
Ok, thank you for you help on this.Pirhounix 21:56, 22 July 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pirhounix (talk • contribs)
- All of this is covered in depth at WP:ORG. --Orange Mike | Talk 23:34, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
July 23
Aldo (musician)
Why was this page arbitrarily deleted despite it being administered by the Australian Wiki foundation It is a factual page about a real artist unique in the genre he represents and very unique to Australia
If the deletor had any issues why not raise them with the foundation or request they be edited to suit his/her feelings — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.206.49.1 (talk) 04:23, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
- The deletion log states:
- 00:47, 5 November 2010 Fetchcomms (talk | contribs) deleted "Aldo (musician)" (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aldo (musician))
- so it is at the last link shown on that line that you will find the reasons. You should also be aware of the deletion policy.
- n.b.: this has since been taken to Wikipedia:Requests for undeletion#Aldo (musician). --Redrose64 (talk) 10:21, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
how to find new articles
Hi,
I am looking for a list of recent articles by category. Until now, I only found the special page New pages. But I don`t know how to get a list sorted by categories. (like latest articles in Biology, Microbiology) Dodshe (talk) 11:00, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
- You could always view the pages on WikiProject Biology or WikiProject Science. Otherwise you can checke Category:Biology and its subcategories, but there is no way of sorting pages by "new pages in the biology category". Maybe this link will be useful to you. It is a list of all of the unassessed articles in WikiProject Biology. Ryan Vesey Review me! 11:59, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
- Thank you, are there lists on the project pages ( WikiProject Biology or WikiProject Sciences)? There I have found noting. Thanks again, Dodshe (talk) 14:02, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
New Article inquiry
I am planning to make a new Wikipedia page regarding BRIDEX [7]. Is it allowed to make an article about this subject? Miguel AG (talk) 12:41, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
- Be bold! With 355,000 Google hits, it definately apears to be notable enough. Happy editing, hajatvrc with WikiLove @ 15:08, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
A Wizard is available to walk you through these steps. See the Article Wizard.
Thank you.
- Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines with which all articles should comply. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.
- Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.
- If you still think an article is appropriate, see Wikipedia:Your first article. You might also look at Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. An Article Wizard is also available to walk you through creating an article.Template:Z26 – ukexpat (talk) 14:22, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
Articles on chemicals inclusion of space-filling or ball and stick models
As a chemist, this is something that's bothered me for quite some time. Why do articles on chemicals include a picture of space-filling or ball and stick models in addition to (or even worse, instead of) just the skeletal formulae? These three dimentional models are "cool looking" but useless or confusing in actually portraying the chemical makeup of a molecule. Anyone who actually needs a 3D model is likely capable of generating one fairly quickly. Is it just the cool factor that perpetuates this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chihowa (talk • contribs) 15:24, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
- I cannot really speak for this beyond the suggestion that maybe these types of diagrams are easier for the layman to understand (in the "lies to children" fashion). Beyond that, perhaps bringing this up at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Chemistry would shed some light on this. Regards. Rehevkor ✉ 15:36, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
- The best way to find other chemist Wikipedians is to join the Chemistry Wikiproject. The rules guidlines for editing articles within the scope of this wikiproject (icluding the use of molecular models) are located at the Manual of Style (Chemistry). Therefore, the place to raise your proposal is at the talk page for that Manual of Style. Raise your question and provide a concise argument in its defense, and someone will respond to you soon. Happy editing, hajatvrc with WikiLove @ 15:48, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
New University of London Logo
The University of London has a new logo. It has been uploaded by as a .PNG file which does not show up in many browsers, so needs to be uploaded as a .jpg (see below.
However, would it be possible if someone could replace the emblem here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:University_of_London_arms.svg with the new logo that can be found here: http://img211.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=429184245_LondonLogo_122_953lo.jpg
And then could somebody please delete this image completely: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:UofLondon_logo.png
The reason for this is because the emblem is already in the logo, so it does not need to be displayed. It'll be good to make the Uni of London page consistent with other University pages, such as Uni of Liverpool: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Liverpool
Would really appreciate it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.5.71.198 (talk) 16:42, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
- New version uploaded Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 01:55, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
Kindle editions
I have the Kindle edition of several books that I would like to use as a reference its it allowable to use the location address instead of the page number as a reference?Tirronan (talk) 17:10, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
- I don't see why not. Kindle locations are essentially digital page numbers. Since you can change the font size on the Kindle, this could throw off page numbers actually in the text, hence the use of "locations", which do not change if the font size is adjusted. The purpose of page numbers in a reference is so that others can easily find the text that was referenced, and the Kindle location would achieve the same purpose.
- That being said, if at all possible, I would try finding the page number in the actual book, via a search for the same text on Google Books, simply because most editors and readers will likely have much greater access to a physical book vs. the Kindle edition. If you're unable to find the page number after looking, then I would go with the Kindle Location. Avicennasis @ 17:50, 21 Tamuz 5771 / 23 July 2011 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) This is one of the questions that often comes up at template talk:cite book, WT:CITE and other places. Can you be sure that the location address is the same regardless of what equipment and software is being used to view it? --Redrose64 (talk) 17:51, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
- We certainly should be able to cite a Kindle version, although I'm not sure what the best practice should be, In theory, the answer should be in Citing sources, but I don't see it. You might want to add your thoughts to Wikipedia talk:Citing sources.--SPhilbrickT 17:55, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
- Until there is a better method, used the location. If you are using a citation template, use
|at=
for the location and|type=
for the Kindle and model, as the location seems to differ. The Kindle 3 with updated software now has page numbers for ebooks that have been updated with page numbers. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 18:44, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
- Until there is a better method, used the location. If you are using a citation template, use
Adddition to Janet Reno entry
Hello, I would like to add several links to the Janet Reno (Atty General under Wm Clinton) page. I am particularly interested in including:
Attorney General Reno was very outspoken in warning mayors, police chiefs and the Judicial and Executive Branches about the dangers of meth (-amphetamines) as early as 1996 and before. She was reported by the Orlando Sentinel as commenting that illegal trafficking in methamphetamine, a dangerous and powerful stimulant, had been spreading rapidly across the United States. [Orlando Sentinel (online),"Reno Warns That Trafficking In Methamphetamine Rising," http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/1996-02-14/news/9602131165_1_methamphetamine-drug-of-choice-general-janet-reno Orlando, FL: 14 February, 1996, (accessed 23 July, 2011)]. She appeared at the 68th session of the United States Conference of Mayors Winter Meeting in Washington D.C. in 2000 with President Clinton and others to discuss social and law enforcement dangers of the drug nationally, especially in medium-sized and rural communities in order to deal with "the rapidly emerging issue of meth in America, discuss the unique needs of smaller and mid-sized communities to deal with the crisis, and develop prevention, treatment and interdiction strategies for meth which can then be applied to cities of all sizes as the methamphetamine crisis spreads across the nation." [Somers, Ed, (online), "Mayors Bring New Agenda for America's Cities to Washington, DC for 68th Winter Meeting," http://www.usmayors.org/68thWinterMeeting/68thpreview.htm USCM 1620 Eye Street, Northwest - Washington, DC: (accessed 23 July, 2011)]
Thank you, W CarrW Carr (talk) 17:41, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
- Hello. If you meant adding those links in the external links section, I suggest you post the suggestion in the talk page of the article (click on the 'Discussion' tab on top of the page, beside 'Article'). Other interested users can then look it over and decide if it should be in the article or not.
- Just remember that Wikipedia is not the place for promotion. And never place external links in the body of the text itself. They should all be under the External links subsection.-- Obsidi♠n Soul 09:44, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
91/0/0 norsk op
The section Anders Behring Breivik#Ideas and politics says "91/0/0 norsk op" at the end. Where the heck does that come from? It doesn't appear anywhere in the source text. JIP | Talk 17:52, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
article paragraphing
hello: i edited an article and used paragraphs but the info i added goes afar right and is dificult to read. how do i get the info to stay in an 8x11 page format like all the other articles are?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.235.142.237 (talk) 18:19, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
- Don't add leading spaces to paragraphs. Just use the enter key, but start every paragraph on the first space of the line. --Jayron32 18:21, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
University of London Logo
Is anybody able to help me out with this please?
The University of London has a new logo. It has been uploaded on their Wiki page as a .PNG file which does not show up in many browsers, so needs to be uploaded as a .jpg (which is below).
However, would it be possible if someone could replace the emblem here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:University_of_London_arms.svg with the new JPG logo that can be found here: http://img211.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=429184245_LondonLogo_122_953lo.jpg
And then could somebody please delete this image completely: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:UofLondon_logo.png
The reason for this is because the emblem is already in the logo, so it does not need to be displayed. It'll be good to make the Uni of London page consistent with other University pages, such as Uni of Liverpool: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Liverpool
Would really appreciate it.
(Sorry not sure how to sign)! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.5.71.198 (talk) 18:48, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
- This is the fifth time that you have posted essentially the same message. As I recall, it was updated by Toshio Yamaguchi following the first such posting. If you wish to add further comments, please add to the existing thread rather than starting a new one.
- You sign posts by typing four tildes, i.e ~~~~ --Redrose64 (talk) 19:03, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
Apologies. I was unsure of how to re-communicate a message.
Basically it was updated but in .PNG format, which is not always viewable, so I offered a .JPG instead.
I would like the above to be actioned but cannot do this myself.
Can anyone help?
86.5.71.198 (talk) 23:11, 23 July 2011 (UTC) Daniel
- Finally done. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 01:54, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
What to do here?
I came across Chase McBride, which has been blanked by a user with the same name as the title who claims the article is about her and wants to remove it for privacy reasons. What should I do here? Revert? CSD tag? — Train2104 (talk • contribs • count) 19:27, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
- We have no way of knowing if the user and the article's subject really are one and the same. Click undo, but before saving, remove anything that violates WP:BLP, and change the edit summary from the default "Undid revision ..." one. Also send ChaseMcBride (talk · contribs) a
{{subst:welcometest}}
and possibly a{{subst:uw-delete1}}
. --Redrose64 (talk) 20:44, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
- The editor created the article and now wants to delete it. I've put a conflict warning on his Talk page. He doesn't seem to be notable enough, though, to warrant an article. I may nominate it for deletion, in which case, he may get his wish.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:27, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
- No, different editor. The article was created by ChaseMcBrideMusic (talk · contribs) - the edits mentioned by Train2104 were made by ChaseMcBride (talk · contribs). It's possible that they are one and the same (but only a WP:SPI would confirm that); it's also possible that one is the real Chase McBride and the other is an obsessive fan or a business rival. --Redrose64 (talk) 23:52, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
- The editor created the article and now wants to delete it. I've put a conflict warning on his Talk page. He doesn't seem to be notable enough, though, to warrant an article. I may nominate it for deletion, in which case, he may get his wish.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:27, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
Why is there a re-direct from Guillaume de Melun to William the Carpenter?
Froissart mentions a later Guillaume de Melun as being at the Battle of Poitiers in 1356. Also, when you get to the William the Carpenter article there is no mention that I could find of Guillaume de Melun or even that Guillaume de Melun is the same person as William the Carpenter. Further, There is no mention of heirs of this William the Carpenter. http://www.archive.org/stream/chroniclesoffroi00froiuoft/chroniclesoffroi00froiuoft_djvu.txt - 123 paragraph 8 Not in copyright Mugginsx (talk) 22:02, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
- William the Carpenter was viscount of Melun, and Guillaume just means "William", so it seemed like a logical redirect at the time, since this other one doesn't have an article. I'm not sure if these two are related (they are probably not directly related, at least). Adam Bishop (talk) 06:30, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
Law of Attraction
Greetings,
I updated the article on Law of Attraction recently and provided "verifiable" factual information, yet is was rejected. How can my edits be re-added, as they are in fact, correct.
Thanks for your reply.
User name: NaturalPhilos
NaturalPhilos (talk) 22:33, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
- The source was self-published and is therefore not a reliable source. Your facts can be re-added only if you provide a different source which meets Wikipedia requirements for reliability. Yworo (talk) 23:03, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
- Hello there! I notice that the editor who reverted your work referred to it as "spam." Spam means that the content exists solely to promote some person, idea, group, etc., as opposed to existing to provide objective, reliable information to the readers. Considering the fact that you cited a self-published work, it is clear that you are trying to promote your cause instead of giving honest contributions to an encyclopedia.
- Second, the "Joie" you refer to has no Wikipedia article of her own and therefore she probably does not meet Wikipedia's requirement of notability. It is not surprising that your work was reverted, as it put a reference to this non-notable subject in the lead section. Happy editing, hajatvrc with WikiLove @ 23:11, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
Hajatvrc, The recent reversion of the text is surprisingly invalid. The edit of the article duly included Newton's Law of Gravitation, which is based on attraction; in addition to the removal of information where "citation was needed" and not provided:
[For example, here is what is currently referenced]
21st century
The Law of Attraction was brought to hundreds of thousands of people for the first time by Rhonda Byrne through the film The Secret(2006) which is based on the "Law of Attraction" and includes many experts in the field of personal excellence such as Bob Proctor, Jack Canfield, Joe Vitale, John Grey and Marci Schimoff as well as quantum physicists John Hagelin and Fred Alan Wolf.[citation needed]
> In the above sentence, there is no reference to the above names listed, and it is unknown whether the additional names are involved with the body of work since they were not in the film. Why would the edit of that sentence be rejected when it clearly needs updating?
We are not promoting any one source, only providing current research on the topic, which is the purpose of Wikipedia - public information. Wikipedia in general is verifiable, but not completely reliable. In fact, the Law of Attraction article [at the top of the page] says:
"This article may be unbalanced towards certain viewpoints. Please improve the article by adding information on neglected viewpoints, or discuss the issue..."
Thanks for your assistance, yet it seems there is bias towards new information and updating former data where citations are, in fact needed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by NaturalPhilos (talk • contribs) 23:37, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
- No one commented on the sentence to which you just referred. Your edit to that sentence was only reverted because it was done at the same time as the other troubled content. You may make your change to that sentence without pissing in anyone's pool. Yworo and I have only criticized your use of an invalid source, spam, and inclusion of non-notable material. Happy editing, hajatvrc with WikiLove @ 23:50, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
Can't login
I can't login; and this has been a problem for about a year now. I even tried to create a new password, a couple times. Originally I couldn't login because it said "Due to security problems.....It appears you have a virus...." I took computer to computer guy who 'cleaned it'. My wife's been able to login on hers; but mine repeated "Security reasons...." I even went thru Photo I.D. to prove it's me; then Step 3 or 4 would never come up... Last couple months when I try to do Photo ID , it only shows one picture + I ID, but before I can scroll down to names of 2nd pic,it says "Your answersd were not accurate enough.." I try again, + it says "You have exceeded your maximum number of trys..." Can I get a new password, and get back into my account? My e-mail has always been the same... HELP, PLEASE!!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.3.112.169 (talk) 23:02, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
- I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 3.6 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck.Template:Z25 Ryan Vesey Review me! 23:05, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
July 24
List of reptiles of Minnesota table sorting
Why are the tables (specific columns: Inches and Centimeters) at List of reptiles of Minnesota, under the "Snakes" header, sorting improperly? Albacore (talk) 01:08, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
- I believe it goes by the digits listed. Ergo, to sort it properly, all columns need equal digits - which means some columns need leading digits. I added these in this edit, which now makes it sort correctly, however it is a little unsightly. I believe there is a more elegant fix, however I can't remember it at the moment. Avicennasis @ 03:09, 22 Tamuz 5771 / 24 July 2011 (UTC)
- The other possibility is that it doesn't see the numbers as numbers, due to the hyphen - you could try separate columns for Min/Max length and just use numbers there (Which might allow proper sorting without a leading zero.) Avicennasis @ 03:17, 22 Tamuz 5771 / 24 July 2011 (UTC)
- I have hidden the leading zeros with {{hs}}.[8] PrimeHunter (talk) 03:28, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
- The other possibility is that it doesn't see the numbers as numbers, due to the hyphen - you could try separate columns for Min/Max length and just use numbers there (Which might allow proper sorting without a leading zero.) Avicennasis @ 03:17, 22 Tamuz 5771 / 24 July 2011 (UTC)
I want to start a section of pages on Crosman Air Guns and Airsoft Guns and I was wondering if there is a template for that and am also wondering how I would create a page.
The above sentence is long, but I need a good amount of information on how to do this. I have the knowlege and have improved a previous page to a degree : Crosman P9 Airsoft Pistol but do not know how to create a page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Turtletechy (talk • contribs) 03:31, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
- Starting with WP:Your first article is probably a good idea. Dismas|(talk) 03:33, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
- Crosman could certainly use some work. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 20:27, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
Articles are not appearing at Special:NewPages
My last two have not appeared at Special:NewPages. Even if you do this search, the articles are not found. The articles are HMS Doterel (1880) and Allen Morris (tennis). I created them both in my userspace draft, could that have anything to do with it? Should I bring them to requests for feedback? Ryan Vesey Review me! 03:49, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
- That'll do it. Both pages are in Special:NewPages for you, alright, albeit under Userspace. Avicennasis @ 05:55, 22 Tamuz 5771 / 24 July 2011 (UTC)
- Ahh, is it supposed to be like that? I wish there was some way that will still get the pages sent to new pages. Ryan Vesey Review me! 09:45, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
- I think it's an "undocumented feature"! I think it only shows up in New Pages if the page has never existed anywhere - if it was created as "x" and then moved to "y" then the "x" page is new, but the "y" page is not because it already existed, albeit at another location. As far as I am aware, there's no way round this without creating the new article through cut&paste rather than moving, and that causes history/attribution loss -- PhantomSteve.alt/talk\[alternative account of Phantomsteve] 09:56, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
- See Wikipedia:Village pump (idea lab)/Archive 4#New Page Patrol - moved from subpage / redirects for a recent discussion which could only refer to a feature request. If you are the only contributor then you are allowed to copy-paste. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:07, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
- I think it's an "undocumented feature"! I think it only shows up in New Pages if the page has never existed anywhere - if it was created as "x" and then moved to "y" then the "x" page is new, but the "y" page is not because it already existed, albeit at another location. As far as I am aware, there's no way round this without creating the new article through cut&paste rather than moving, and that causes history/attribution loss -- PhantomSteve.alt/talk\[alternative account of Phantomsteve] 09:56, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
- Ahh, is it supposed to be like that? I wish there was some way that will still get the pages sent to new pages. Ryan Vesey Review me! 09:45, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
The time of the Lynyrd Skynyrd plane crash as reported in the biographie of Billy Powell.
In the Billy Powell biography the date of the fatal plane crash involving the Lynyrd Skynyrd band, the date of the crash is stated to be 3 days after the release of the album, in fact it was in August after the release of the Album, several months later. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.120.36.88 (talk) 04:11, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
- Do you have a source for that? Street Survivors says the album was released October 17, 1977, and Ronnie Van Zant and the bios of the other victims say they died October 20, 1977. —teb728 t c 05:47, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
- Numerous essentially indisputable reliable sources confirm the October 20, 1977 date of the crash (see e.g., [9], [10] and [11]) so the question is do you have a source for the release of the album showing it was a few months before? Note that this article says that the crash took place after the album had "just been released".--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 13:06, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
Aha. This interview has Skynyrd's guitarist reporting in an interview on October 2, 1977 that Sole Survivors had not yet been released so, while this does not onfirm the "3 days after" information to a tee, your assertion is plainly incorrect.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 13:13, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
- Numerous essentially indisputable reliable sources confirm the October 20, 1977 date of the crash (see e.g., [9], [10] and [11]) so the question is do you have a source for the release of the album showing it was a few months before? Note that this article says that the crash took place after the album had "just been released".--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 13:06, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
William Jennings Bryan
The reference in the article to Dayton should specify Dayton, Tennessee04:41, 24 July 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.118.28.181 (talk)
Image not visible in infobox
For some reason, I am not able to view the image in the infobox in University of Lahore. This happens regardless of whether the image is png or jpg. Am I doing something wrong? Any help appreciated! Lynch7 14:08, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
- It's been fixed. Infoboxes are unfortunately inconsistent in whether they need the full image syntax or just the image name.
{{infobox university}}
allows either, but they go in different parameters:|image=
is for the full syntax,|image_name=
for just the image name. So, you could have put|image_name=University of Lahore logo2.jpg
. --Redrose64 (talk) 14:38, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
template for remember mediation
I want to inform in a talk page about mediations regarding an issue. This template shold not be archived in order to keep the information for other editors. Sometime I saw such a template. Do you know it?. --Keysanger (what?) 17:15, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
- Depending on what you mean exactly, it may be
{{Mediated}}
,{{Mediation request}}
, or{{Mediation}}
. These are designed for article talk pages or the articles themselves (or subsections of it). If you meant a user talk page, I suggest you simply tell them about it.-- Obsidi♠n Soul 21:21, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
Noah Wylie
Need to know if Noah Wylie plans to do anymore Librarian films.. I have worked in the media for many years and think this series had a bit of everything; James bond, Indiana Jones, the History Channel, romance, action, adventure....etc.. and he was the pyramid of all this. Can't seem to find anywhere where I can reach him or find out.. I figured if anyone knew it would be your people.. thanks, (Redacted) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.96.38.208 (talk) 19:38, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
- Have you tried the Entertainment section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: . I hope this helps.Template:Z38--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 20:20, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
Adding external links to multiple pages (not spamming)
I am adding an external link to the website for the Bare Knuckle Boxing Hall of Fame on the pages of all of the boxers that have been inducted. I got a warning about multiple external links being considered spam. Can I proceed? Should I only do a few at a time? what is the limit? Thanks! Im4bath (talk) 19:59, 24 July 2011 (UTC)im4bath
- Hello. We will be able to help you better if you could specify which external links you are try to contribute and to what articles you plan to do so. That way we can confirm or deny your claim that your links are not spam. Happy editing, hajatvrc with WikiLove @ 20:23, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
- Why do you wish to add this particular link? Your every contribution has been to add a link to this site to multiple articles, this would appear to be spamming. If you are using it as a source you should bring it up at our reliable sources noticeboard to determine if the source is a reliable source and usable. Rehevkor ✉ 20:31, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
- You should also bring this up at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Boxing and start a discussion on whether this award/hall of fame is notable enough for inclusion, you should not be inserting these links without consensus. Rehevkor ✉ 20:36, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
Is there a special page to store private notes ?
Is there a special/ordinary page for user's personal use only like the one 'My watchlist'?? By saying "personal use", I mean to store some important notes for future use like to do list, future re-search plan etc. The user page is viewable to all it cant hold personal elements. Existing special pages like 'My watchlist' is not fully editable. Only the list can be edited. Theres no place to mark a page how much important is it for me or to make a footnote about the page. D!p 20:08, 24 July 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by D!p.computing (talk • contribs)
- What you are describing is exactly what user pages are for. They cannot be made private, in the sense of others not being able to view them, but they they are generally "private", in the sense that others will not normally edit your user page except to remove improper material (e.g., a fair use image used outside the mainspace) or to revert vandalism by third-parties. You can also start subpages which are seen far less than even your userpage, though they are technically just as public. They have the advantage that you can research and write an article there at your leisure before moving it to the mainspace. If you really need a privately viewable document, then a text document of some sort stored on your hard drive is the place to keep it. You can always drop the text onto a Wikipedia page and hit preview to check if your formatting is working.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 20:29, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
- As you probably already realized, be careful what you place in your userpages. Do not place personally identifying or sensitive information unless you fully understand the consequences of doing so. See Wikipedia:Wikipedia is in the real world and Wikipedia:On privacy, confidentiality and discretion. And yes, like Fuhgettaboutit says, what you described are usually what user pages are for. Most users (including me) use userpages for frequently used templates, notes on articles they are working on or planning to work on, drafts, experiments on formatting, links to commonly used sources, and other useful things for editing (See Wikipedia:User pages). Even if you don't actually 'own' it, as long as you aren't breaking any rules, no one will usually touch it for etiquette reasons (See Wikipedia:Etiquette).
- You can mark a page as "important for me", of course - with a note at the top, or use an {{mbox}} or something. But everyone will be able to see it, and edit it too.
- That concept often seems odd to new users, but once you embrace the idea, it all kinda works. For example, I have User:Chzz/note which is just my own scratch-pad of reminders - anyone can see it; anyone could change it, but I'd probably just change it back.
- Once you accept the 'openness', it's all rather nice, really.
- For anything actually private though - it's best to just use a text note file on your own computer, or something like that; don't put private things on the wiki. And don't put your shopping list on either, or it'll get deleted as WP:NOTWEBHOST. Chzz ► 11:48, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
C-grade movies
i want to work in c grade movies can u tell me how i can join my e mail address is (Redacted) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.179.83.75 (talk) 21:03, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
- Can you clarify the question? Work in actual C-grade movies or work on articles about C-grade movies?-- Obsidi♠n Soul 21:09, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
Do we have a policy about whether we should or (I'm guessing this one) shouldn't credit the photographer in image captions? Saw one added to Olivia Bonilla. doomgaze (talk) 22:17, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:Captions#Credits seems to cover that. Shouldn't be necessary. Rehevkor ✉ 22:30, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
- But please see the current debate over image attribution at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Attribution of images.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 05:06, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
July 25
Mobile Wikipedia
I accidentally changed my mobile Wikipedia on my phone to the regular Wikipedia (like on a computer). How do I change it back to the mobile version? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.137.143.251 (talk) 02:48, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
- If you go to Wikipedia:Enable mobile version on your mobile device and click on the link there, you will re-enable the mobile version. doomgaze (talk) 02:51, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
Welcoming Template
Hello, can someone post a welcoming template onto my talk page? Thank you. -- 7D HMS (talk) 03:28, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
I have formated {{Time 100s}} using {{Navbox with collapsible groups}} but the liststyle parameter is not working for the background color, font color or spacing symbols.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 07:10, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
- It is working, but only the "color:white;" part is effective, because the "background:red;" is overridden by the
class="navbox-list navbox-even"
orclass="navbox-list navbox-odd"
which are applied to the individual navbox rows. These force other background colours - white for odd rows, light grey for even rows. - As a side issue, I don't think that the
{{•wrap}}
which appears in the|belowstyle=
is a good idea - try a#
instead. I have fixed a<font />
which should have been</font>
. --Redrose64 (talk) 12:50, 25 July 2011 (UTC)- If you add
| liststyle = background: Red;color:white;
as an explicit parameter to the two calls to {{Navbox subgroup}}, you can override theclass="navbox-list navbox-even"
orclass="navbox-list navbox-odd"
. This gives you white dots and blue text links against a red background. Don't do it, it looks hideous! -- John of Reading (talk) 13:00, 25 July 2011 (UTC)- I am not trying to change the background and text of the list but of the row headings. How do I do that?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 13:03, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
- As above, apply parameters to the
{{navbox subgroup}}
. The primary style for the|groupn=
(where n is an integer in the range 1-20) comes from|groupstyle=
- this supplements (and may override)|basestyle=
. If special styling is desired for individual rows,|groupnstyle=
may be used. For the|listn=
the primary style comes from|liststyle=
, which may be overridden for odd and even rows by the use of|oddstyle=
and|evenstyle=
, or for individual rows by|listnstyle=
. --Redrose64 (talk) 15:22, 25 July 2011 (UTC)- I have tried list1style = background: Red;color:white; and group1style = background: Red;color:white; to get the row headings to have red backgrounds with white text and neither has worked. I am not sure what I am misunderstanding.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 16:51, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
- Did you ensure that the parameter was placed inside each relevant
{{Navbox subgroup}}
? If it's inside the{{Navbox with collapsible groups}}
but outside the{{Navbox subgroup}}
s it may not have the full intended effect. --Redrose64 (talk) 17:18, 25 July 2011 (UTC)- Are you trying to change the colour of the year-by-year links? They are red because they are links to articles that don't exist. I don't think that can be changed by setting navbox styles. -- John of Reading (talk) 17:25, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
- Finally got it.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 19:35, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
- Are you trying to change the colour of the year-by-year links? They are red because they are links to articles that don't exist. I don't think that can be changed by setting navbox styles. -- John of Reading (talk) 17:25, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
- Did you ensure that the parameter was placed inside each relevant
- I have tried list1style = background: Red;color:white; and group1style = background: Red;color:white; to get the row headings to have red backgrounds with white text and neither has worked. I am not sure what I am misunderstanding.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 16:51, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
- As above, apply parameters to the
- I am not trying to change the background and text of the list but of the row headings. How do I do that?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 13:03, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
- If you add
How do I submit a new article
i Have written a new article in my user space and want to submit it to wikipedia. As a new user I dont seem to be able to do this. How do I do this/request that this is done? Thanks Baby.seagull (talk) 10:25, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
- I suggest that you read the 2 useful links at the top of your article: So you made a userspace draft and Requests for feedback. - David Biddulph (talk) 10:32, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
- Standard advice follows:
A Wizard is available to walk you through these steps. See the Article Wizard.
Thank you.
- Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines with which all articles should comply. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.
- Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.
- If you still think an article is appropriate, see Wikipedia:Your first article. You might also look at Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. An Article Wizard is also available to walk you through creating an article.Template:Z26 – ukexpat (talk) 14:33, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
Ritu Beri
The wiki article on Ritu Beri is incomplete. Ritu married an NRI and went to UK in the eightees. She had a bitter divorce and returned to India in mid-ninetees. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 14.99.186.113 (talk) 11:42, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
- You could add information yourself, as long as you have reliable sources for the info (e.g. books, newspapers) - but do be careful to reference everything - see WP:BLP.
- For the facts you said above...how can we prove they're true? It'd need a very good reference; it has to be verifiable.
- Alternatively, you could make suggestions on the discussion page, Talk:Ritu Beri. Chzz ► 11:53, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
Format of links to items on other Wikimedia Project sites
What is the correct way to format a link to items on Wikibooks, WikiSource, Commons, Wiktionary, etc? Roger (talk) 12:21, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
- It depends on what you want to do but in general, just like regualr links we have starting and ending doubled bracket. Inside you place the name of the other project (certain shortcuts can also be used), followed by a colon, then the exact title there, then a pipe ("|") followed by what you want the link to display as. So, for example, to link to Wiktionary's entry for callipygian, you would type
[[wiktionary:callipygian|callipygian]]
or[[wikt:callipygian|callipygian]]
. See Help:Interwiki linking. Note also that there are templates to display a notice in articles that announce that another project has material on a subject. See Category:Interwiki link templates.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:43, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
Question
Do you, by chance know - (Redacted)? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pindrum (talk • contribs) 13:46, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
- I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 3.6 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck.Template:Z25-- Obsidi♠n Soul 14:00, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
Pesquisa Sobre a família Nolêto em Pontremolli
Gostaria de saber, se existem alguns membros da família nolêto em Pontremolli, região de Fivizzano, Lucca, Carrara. Será possível obter essa informação, o mais rápido possível? fico aguardando.
João Lourenço Batista Nolêto — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.42.3.168 (talk) 15:11, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
- Hello. Your question seems to be related to one of our sister projects. Please note that you are at the English Wikipedia, one of hundreds of projects hosted by the Wikimedia Foundation. Each project is operated independently of one another, including Wikipedias in other languages. This page is a help desk for asking questions related to using this wiki, so we may be unable to assist in matters concerning other Wikimedia projects. You may have more luck trying to find help at the project in question. Best of luck. --Redrose64 (talk) 15:27, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
- Esta página é para dúvidas sobre a utilização da Wikipedia. Por favor, considere fazer esta pergunta na
Wicipedia:Y Ddesg Gyfeirio. Eles são especializados em questões de conhecimentos e vai tentar responder a qualquer pergunta no universo (exceto como usar Wikipedia, pois é isso que este é para Help Desk). Basta seguir o link, selecione a seção apropriada, e perguntar de distância. Você pode sempre tentar pesquisar Wikipedia para um artigo relacionado com o tema você quer saber mais sobre. Espero que isso ajude. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 17:10, 25 July 2011 (UTC)- I don't think there's a lot of point in directing a Portuguese speaker to the Reference desk on the Welsh Wikipedia! So I've struck the link out above. I haven't been able to find a Reference Desk on the Portuguese Wikipedia: it looks to me as if there isn't one. --ColinFine (talk) 18:41, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
- How about pt:Wikipédia:Contato/Fale com a Wikipédia? --Redrose64 (talk) 19:02, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
- Well the question still seems to be a knowledge question though and I don't know how the volunteers at the portuguese help desk generally deal with that. Still he or she might have better chances to be directed to the right spot there. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 19:12, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
- How about pt:Wikipédia:Contato/Fale com a Wikipédia? --Redrose64 (talk) 19:02, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
- I don't think there's a lot of point in directing a Portuguese speaker to the Reference desk on the Welsh Wikipedia! So I've struck the link out above. I haven't been able to find a Reference Desk on the Portuguese Wikipedia: it looks to me as if there isn't one. --ColinFine (talk) 18:41, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
Adding copyrights/source information to a logo or image
I am trying to prevent an image of the company logo from being taken down, I have the source information and a statement for the logo. The logo currently is a registered trademark, and I have a document allowing me to upload the logo. I'm not sure how to add this information to the uploaded image template, please help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Crisscutfries (talk • contribs) 15:40, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
Exhaust gas emission
Some countries are now measuring gas emissions in G/KM. Would appreciate if one of your contributors would advise names of manufacturers of emission control equipments giving results in G/KM. Thanking you for your help.
Clovis Provencal Mauritius — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clopro (talk • contribs) 16:59, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
- Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps.Template:Z37 – ukexpat (talk) 17:52, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
Article
I plan on creating an article on the Chohan family murders, that occurred in the UK on 2003. However, i am not completely certain that it meets the notability criteria. Here are the sources i plan on using. Any opinions? Joyson Noel Holla at me! 17:06, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
- The sources at User talk:Joyson Noel/Chohan family murders look very good in my opinion. I see you also started a draft at User:Joyson Noel/Chohan family murders. Once you have developed your draft further and want additional feedback, you can list your draft at Wikipedia:Requests for feedback. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 17:21, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
- I'm a bit paranoid about it getting nominated for deletion later, thereby rendering my time and efforts wasted. As such, i would greatly appreciate further opinions regarding the event's notability. Joyson Noel Holla at me! 17:25, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
- I haven't looked at every single of your sources, but the ones I looked at seem to support your article idea. However, it will be easier to comment if you had already written something. Nobody will delete the draft from your userspace, as long as it is not a clear copyright violation or a clear violation of one of the points at Wikipedia:User pages#What may I not have in my user pages?. See also Wikipedia:Your first article for a guide on writing an article. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 17:49, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
- The sources look very good, I don't think you should encounter a problem. That many sources might not be enough if you were trying to write a bio, as a violation of WP:BLP1E, but you are writing about the event, so you shouldn't have a problem. As an aside, make sure to explain the term "supergrass" as I doubt many readers outside the UK will know the term.--SPhilbrickT 17:56, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
- I haven't looked at every single of your sources, but the ones I looked at seem to support your article idea. However, it will be easier to comment if you had already written something. Nobody will delete the draft from your userspace, as long as it is not a clear copyright violation or a clear violation of one of the points at Wikipedia:User pages#What may I not have in my user pages?. See also Wikipedia:Your first article for a guide on writing an article. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 17:49, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
- I'm a bit paranoid about it getting nominated for deletion later, thereby rendering my time and efforts wasted. As such, i would greatly appreciate further opinions regarding the event's notability. Joyson Noel Holla at me! 17:25, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
Need a review for my article
Hi. I have written the article Stijn Van Cauter in my own userspace and then moved it after it has reached an "okay" size. Please review the article and remove the "Unreviewed article" template if you find it fine. Sentient Planet (talk) 17:55, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
- I am not convinced that he meets the notability guidelines at WP:MUSIC. – ukexpat (talk) 17:59, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
- Perhaps you are not familier with him, but he is a very prominent artist, and somewhat a celebrity, in the doom metal scene. Virtually any metal website will have some acknowledgement of him (perhaps under some of his aliases. He has so many that it's possible you'll only find "Until Death Overtakes Me" as that's his most notable one). Sentient Planet (talk) 19:29, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
Infoboxes, what is going on?
I was trying to expand the article Feed (Grant novel), and the first thing I thought it needed was an infobox.
So I went and grabbed a book infobox from another article to get the structure, and replaced all the content bits. But when I previewed that, it just showed the raw code. You can see what I mean in my userspace here: User:Gnfnrf/Feed.
I am stumped as to why it isn't doing its magic thing where it makes with the infoboxing. I thought that just happened, and despite doing a lot of editing, I've never really learned much about the process. I feel like I'm missing something simple and important, but I can't figure out what.
So, the questions are, I suppose: What's going on, how do I fix it, and how stupid will I feel when I learn what I did wrong? gnfnrf (talk) 19:16, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
- I've fixed the syntax error. I can't predict how you will feel about it, though. A proper software environment would have told you what was wrong, of course. -- John of Reading (talk) 19:24, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks. That's actually not as bad (from my stupidity perspective) as I feared. I was imagining the answer was something like "Silly editor, only Glooberwatsit class articles can have templates, and this is a Shitzerpiggle!" meaning some basic concept existed about templates and infoboxes that I had never heard of. This is just a typo. I make typoes all the time. I probably would have found it eventually, but I didn't even consider that a typo in the box could break the entire thing like that. gnfnrf (talk) 19:47, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
Image Dump from Suisun Bay, west coast US Mothball Fleet, USS Iowa, pics taken yesterday
Hi, I have several dozen pictures such as this: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1832211/suisun%20bay%20sample.JPG
And this, the image at the bottom (could someone better integrate it, please): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Green_Mountain_State_%28T-ACS-9%29
All relevant to this article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suisun_Bay_Reserve_Fleet
Taken yesterday, while on a day cruise on the SS Jeremiah O'Brien. Our ship was about 150 feet away from the parked ships which may be unusual because ships and boats generally must remain 500 feet away, so these may be somewhat unique photos. In addition, the ships pictured are all scheduled to be scrapped within a year or two.
I've also got some very nice close-ups of the current state of the USS Iowa (BB-61) which is scheduled to be converted into a museum ship in LA - rent-a-cop and port-a-poty clearly visible on the deck, along with "Keep Back 500 Feet", and many more.
How crazy should I go with adding those current images to the article about Suisun Bay Reserve Fleet and about the various ships themselves? Should I simply upload all of them to wikimedia commons, and leave it to the Naval enthusiasts to integrate them? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Earthpig (talk • contribs) 19:27, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
- You can definately upload them to Commons. If you want to add them to individual ship pictures yourself, Wikipedia:Picture tutorial should help. If you would like other people to add them to appropriate articles; then you should perhaps notify relevent WikiProjects. Since these are all warships, a good place to start may be Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history which is a very active WikiProject. Just drop a note on their talk pages letting them know which files you uploaded to Commons, and they may very well have something useful to do with them. --Jayron32 19:33, 25 July 2011 (UTC)