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::{{reply to|FrB.TG}} Thanks for reviewing. Regards, --[[User:Skr15081997|Skr15081997]] ([[User talk:Skr15081997|talk]]) 12:42, 25 May 2015 (UTC) |
::{{reply to|FrB.TG}} Thanks for reviewing. Regards, --[[User:Skr15081997|Skr15081997]] ([[User talk:Skr15081997|talk]]) 12:42, 25 May 2015 (UTC) |
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*The very first item listed in the [[WP:Featured list criteria]] is [[WP:Naming conventions]], which says, in part, to "not use titles suggesting that one article forms part of another". A title such as "Arshad Warsi, roles and awards" suggests to me that this article is a subsidiary to the main [[Arshad Warsi]] article, and many other editors have expressed similar concerns about this particular title format (see, for example, [[User:sroc]]'s comprehensive reasoning [[Talk:John Gielgud, roles and awards/Archive 1#List of roles and awards of John Gielgud|here]]). Therefore, I believe that this title violates WP:Naming conventions and that thus the article does not currently meet the FLC. |
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*I think the prose of this list could do with a thorough peer review. In its current state, it merely chronologically lists all of Warsi's films in a rather dry fashion, which doesn't make for a particularly engaging read (e.g. "The following year, he [did something]. Two years later he [did something else]. In the same year, Warsi [did another thing]. In 2013, he [did something else]"). With the exception of the ones for which he won awards, it's difficult to see which of his roles are the notable and why. Is there any significance in his hosting of ''Razzmatazz'', for example, or is it just something else that he's done? |
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*Certain years are repeated quite frequently in the lead. "2003", for example, is repeated three times in the sixth sentence. |
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*There are three citations in the first half of the first paragraph, but then none from there on. This is an issue for me. |
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*What's the deal with ''Jeetenge Hum''? The Year column suggests that it was released in 2001, but the reference in the table is from 2005 and implies that, at that point, the film had yet to be released. Is there any other information available about the film? |
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*I believe that, for page ranges, we use en dashes rather than hypens (e.g. "47–51" rather than "47-51"). |
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*The awards and nominations table requires rowscopes in order to meet [[MOS:DTT]]. |
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*The Year columns might be better centre-aligned. |
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*<code><nowiki>{{IMDb name|0451174}}</nowiki></code> -> <code><nowiki>{{IMDb name|0451174|name=Arshad Warsi}}</nowiki></code> |
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*"Arshad Warsi's Official Website" -> "Arshad Warsi's official website" |
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In its current state, I don't feel that this article yet meets the FLC, so I wish all the participating editors the best of luck in improving it. Thanks, [[User:A Thousand Doors|A Thousand Doors]] ([[User talk:A Thousand Doors|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/A Thousand Doors|contribs]]) 09:34, 26 May 2015 (UTC) |
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- Nominator(s): Skr15081997 (talk) 10:11, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
Arshad Warsi has been in the Hindi film industry since 1987 but it was only in 2003 that he won fame for his role in Munna Bhai M.B.B.S.. Since then he has won several awards for his acting skills. This list presents all his film credits, awards and nominations.Skr15081997 (talk) 10:11, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
- Comments from FrB.TG
- I don't see a need to add three images of him, all taken during the same time.
- Removed 2 from the filmography section.
- Why is it that you've not included a "Director" column in the table?
- If an actor-director collaboration is really noteworthy, then it is mentioned in the lead. Adding separate column for director would increase total width. I have followed User:Cowlibob on this. An actor's direct contribution to a film is his/her respective role. Almost all the filmography websites list film's name, year and role. On WP, we provide 2 more columns–notes and ref(s). Had he been a director/producer then a different format would have been followed as in Satyajit Ray filmography.
- Yeah, I know. Not a requirement, just a suggestion.
- "and reprised his role as Circuit in Munna Bhai M.B.B.S. in its sequel Lage Raho Munna Bhai" - grammatical error.
- Corrected
- "Warsi also hosted the first season of the reality television show Big Boss, for which"
- Added
- Don't restrict the awards to only Filmfare in the prose as it's not just a filmography, but also awards list.
- All awards and nominations have been mentioned in the lead.
- "he played a lawyer in the National Film Award-winning comedy" - "National Film Award-winning" is WP:UNDUE.
- Removed
Please have a look at this. --FrankBoy CHITCHAT 11:14, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
- @FrB.TG: Thanks for reviewing. Regards, --Skr15081997 (talk) 12:42, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
Oppose
- The very first item listed in the WP:Featured list criteria is WP:Naming conventions, which says, in part, to "not use titles suggesting that one article forms part of another". A title such as "Arshad Warsi, roles and awards" suggests to me that this article is a subsidiary to the main Arshad Warsi article, and many other editors have expressed similar concerns about this particular title format (see, for example, User:sroc's comprehensive reasoning here). Therefore, I believe that this title violates WP:Naming conventions and that thus the article does not currently meet the FLC.
- I think the prose of this list could do with a thorough peer review. In its current state, it merely chronologically lists all of Warsi's films in a rather dry fashion, which doesn't make for a particularly engaging read (e.g. "The following year, he [did something]. Two years later he [did something else]. In the same year, Warsi [did another thing]. In 2013, he [did something else]"). With the exception of the ones for which he won awards, it's difficult to see which of his roles are the notable and why. Is there any significance in his hosting of Razzmatazz, for example, or is it just something else that he's done?
- Certain years are repeated quite frequently in the lead. "2003", for example, is repeated three times in the sixth sentence.
- There are three citations in the first half of the first paragraph, but then none from there on. This is an issue for me.
- What's the deal with Jeetenge Hum? The Year column suggests that it was released in 2001, but the reference in the table is from 2005 and implies that, at that point, the film had yet to be released. Is there any other information available about the film?
- I believe that, for page ranges, we use en dashes rather than hypens (e.g. "47–51" rather than "47-51").
- The awards and nominations table requires rowscopes in order to meet MOS:DTT.
- The Year columns might be better centre-aligned.
{{IMDb name|0451174}}
->{{IMDb name|0451174|name=Arshad Warsi}}
- "Arshad Warsi's Official Website" -> "Arshad Warsi's official website"
In its current state, I don't feel that this article yet meets the FLC, so I wish all the participating editors the best of luck in improving it. Thanks, A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 09:34, 26 May 2015 (UTC)