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::Alright, have made the changes suggested. [[User:Sasata|Sasata]] ([[User talk:Sasata|talk]]) 06:50, 26 July 2009 (UTC) |
::Alright, have made the changes suggested. [[User:Sasata|Sasata]] ([[User talk:Sasata|talk]]) 06:50, 26 July 2009 (UTC) |
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:::That was fast! Thanks; it looks good. [[User:Eubulides|Eubulides]] ([[User talk:Eubulides|talk]]) 07:05, 26 July 2009 (UTC) |
:::That was fast! Thanks; it looks good. [[User:Eubulides|Eubulides]] ([[User talk:Eubulides|talk]]) 07:05, 26 July 2009 (UTC) |
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*'''Comments''' It would be awesome to get this to FA and it looks close - I wish I didn't have [[thesis|more pressing priorities]] so I could help more. So for now I'll leave you with some thoughts about the [[Fungus#Human use|Human use]] section: |
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:'''First paragraph''': I'm not sure what purpose this paragraph serves, being a mixture of unrepeated information and an incomplete summary of the Human use section. I would suggest antibiotics would surely be worth its own subheading, being one of humanity's greatest discoveries last century. At present, the article states that fungi produce antibiotics, but does not clarify whether current industrial production relies on fungi (I believe it does), as opposed to using sythetic methods. |
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:'''Cultured foods''': At the moment there's an ambiguity which seems to (incorrectly) imply ''A. oryzae'' is used for tempeh production. It's probably worth mentioning ''A. oryzae'' is also used for [[sake]] production, an enormous industry in Japan. If you can find a good source, it would also be nice to have a sentence describing the "domestication" of fungi - fungi like ''A. oryzae'' and ''Aspergillus sojae'' seem as different from their [[Aspergillus flavus|wild]] [[Aspergillus parasiticus|relatives]] as poodles are from wolves. |
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:'''Other''': Ideally it would be nice to have a sentence or two describing what it is about fungi that make them ideal for the industrial production of all those metabolites and enzymes. Off the top of my head: simple nutritional requirements permit the use of low-cost materials or even waste products as growth substrates; cheap and simple separation by filtration of myclelial flocs or pellets from the growth media (cf. bacteria); efficient secretion pathways permit high yields of proteins; as eukaryotes, fungi can do post-translational modifications of proteins (e.g. glycosylation) that bacteria cannot; gene splicing techniques permit the production of heterologous proteins (eg. bovine [[chymosin]]) and the rational enhancement of yields; biological production in general produces optically pure compounds (not racemates), which is important in e.g. [[lactic acid]]. |
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:'''Model organisms''': The article is incomplete without some mention of the tremendous contribution the study of model fungi has made to our understanding of basic biology. The [[one gene-one enzyme hypothesis]] came from the study of ''[[Neurospora crassa]]'', which is also used for studying circadian rhythms – who knew a mold could have its own 24-hour clock? ''[[Aspergillus nidulans]]'' is surely worth a mention, and ''[[S. cerevisiae]]'' must be the most-studied eukaryotic cell on the planet. |
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:[[User:Adrian J. Hunter|Adrian '''J.''' Hunter]]<sup>([[User talk:Adrian J. Hunter|talk]]•[[Special:contributions/Adrian J. Hunter|contribs]])</sup> 07:37, 26 July 2009 (UTC) |
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Fungus is a core topic, and on average, receives several thousand page views per day. It is also the flagship article for the Fungi Wikiproject. Co-nominator Malljaja and I have been working on it for several months, and I think it's up now up to standard. Looking forward to seeing the article improve even more with the help of your collective input. Sasata (talk) 04:25, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
- Comment. Done; thanks. Alt text is
mostlyvery good, but it's missing for the infobox image File:Fungi collage.jpg; please see Template:Taxobox/doc for how to fix that. For File:Ergotamine3.png the alt text "Chemical structure" isn't informative; in similar situations I've simply used the systematic (IUPAC) name, which you can get from Ergotamine, as being better than nothing. One other thing: for File:Ascocarp2.png the alt text should describe the locations in words, rather than teasing the visually-impaired reader by saying that the image shows the locations. Eubulides (talk) 05:35, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
- Comments It would be awesome to get this to FA and it looks close - I wish I didn't have more pressing priorities so I could help more. So for now I'll leave you with some thoughts about the Human use section:
- First paragraph: I'm not sure what purpose this paragraph serves, being a mixture of unrepeated information and an incomplete summary of the Human use section. I would suggest antibiotics would surely be worth its own subheading, being one of humanity's greatest discoveries last century. At present, the article states that fungi produce antibiotics, but does not clarify whether current industrial production relies on fungi (I believe it does), as opposed to using sythetic methods.
- Cultured foods: At the moment there's an ambiguity which seems to (incorrectly) imply A. oryzae is used for tempeh production. It's probably worth mentioning A. oryzae is also used for sake production, an enormous industry in Japan. If you can find a good source, it would also be nice to have a sentence describing the "domestication" of fungi - fungi like A. oryzae and Aspergillus sojae seem as different from their wild relatives as poodles are from wolves.
- Other: Ideally it would be nice to have a sentence or two describing what it is about fungi that make them ideal for the industrial production of all those metabolites and enzymes. Off the top of my head: simple nutritional requirements permit the use of low-cost materials or even waste products as growth substrates; cheap and simple separation by filtration of myclelial flocs or pellets from the growth media (cf. bacteria); efficient secretion pathways permit high yields of proteins; as eukaryotes, fungi can do post-translational modifications of proteins (e.g. glycosylation) that bacteria cannot; gene splicing techniques permit the production of heterologous proteins (eg. bovine chymosin) and the rational enhancement of yields; biological production in general produces optically pure compounds (not racemates), which is important in e.g. lactic acid.
- Model organisms: The article is incomplete without some mention of the tremendous contribution the study of model fungi has made to our understanding of basic biology. The one gene-one enzyme hypothesis came from the study of Neurospora crassa, which is also used for studying circadian rhythms – who knew a mold could have its own 24-hour clock? Aspergillus nidulans is surely worth a mention, and S. cerevisiae must be the most-studied eukaryotic cell on the planet.
- Adrian J. Hunter(talk•contribs) 07:37, 26 July 2009 (UTC)