Content deleted Content added
116.48.85.251 (talk) No edit summary |
|||
Line 53: | Line 53: | ||
:'''Nominator's rationale:''' Fails [[WP:SMALLCAT]]. Both items in this category are already in the much larger [[:Category:Islands of Taiwan]]. <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-size:0.75em">– [[User:NULL|<span style="color:dimgray">NULL</span>]] <span style="display:inline-block;vertical-align:-0.4em;line-height:1em">‹[[User talk:NULL#top|talk]]›<br/>‹[[Special:Contributions/NULL|edits]]›</span></span> 00:08, 20 April 2012 (UTC) |
:'''Nominator's rationale:''' Fails [[WP:SMALLCAT]]. Both items in this category are already in the much larger [[:Category:Islands of Taiwan]]. <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-size:0.75em">– [[User:NULL|<span style="color:dimgray">NULL</span>]] <span style="display:inline-block;vertical-align:-0.4em;line-height:1em">‹[[User talk:NULL#top|talk]]›<br/>‹[[Special:Contributions/NULL|edits]]›</span></span> 00:08, 20 April 2012 (UTC) |
||
*'''Strong Support''' "Archipelagoes of ..." is a well established category tree but doesn't really match the geography of the ROC. Taiwan is one large island with very small islands around it, [[Matsu]] is more of a political/military subdivision of [[:Category:Islands of Fujian|Fujian Province]] than a geographic one, and the [[Spratly Islands|Spratlys]] are claimed by a half dozen countries. [[User:RevelationDirect|RevelationDirect]] ([[User talk:RevelationDirect|talk]]) 02:08, 20 April 2012 (UTC) |
*'''Strong Support''' "Archipelagoes of ..." is a well established category tree but doesn't really match the geography of the ROC. Taiwan is one large island with very small islands around it, [[Matsu]] is more of a political/military subdivision of [[:Category:Islands of Fujian|Fujian Province]] than a geographic one, and the [[Spratly Islands|Spratlys]] are claimed by a half dozen countries. [[User:RevelationDirect|RevelationDirect]] ([[User talk:RevelationDirect|talk]]) 02:08, 20 April 2012 (UTC) |
||
** I am afraid this isn't the case. The Matsu Islands is a geographic one. The same is true for the Pescadores. [[Special:Contributions/116.48.85.251|116.48.85.251]] ([[User talk:116.48.85.251|talk]]) 20:06, 22 April 2012 (UTC) |
|||
* '''Keep''' as part of the Archipelagoes by country hierarchy. [[Special:Contributions/116.48.85.251|116.48.85.251]] ([[User talk:116.48.85.251|talk]]) 20:06, 22 April 2012 (UTC) |
Revision as of 20:06, 22 April 2012
April 20
Category:Portal box templates using obsolete parameters
- Propose deleting: Category:Portal box templates using obsolete parameters - Template:Lc1
- Nominator's rationale: Delete. It was always supposed to be a temporary category about two years ago! Possibly due to a template merge? I have cleaned up the pages that where in it that needed obsolete parameters removed. The remaining pages in the category are of no consequence or do not belong in it (because they have valid parameters). See also Template_talk:Portal#Obsolete_parameters. -- Alan Liefting (talk - contribs) 23:45, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
Category:Santiago, Chile
- Propose renaming Category:Santiago, Chile to Category:Santiago
- Nominator's rationale: To match the parent article, Santiago, which has uncontroversially been the primary topic since mid-2010. I put this up at CFDS, but there were concerns that a category that had been renamed at CfD shouldn't go through CFDS, even though the rationale for renaming last time was to match the parent article (at the time at "Santiago, Chile"). The subcats are currently a mish-mash of "Santiago" and "Santiago, Chile", so whatever the result here is it should apply to the subcats as well. Jenks24 (talk) 16:29, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
Copy of speedy discussion
|
---|
|
- Rename both per nominator. I was the objector to the speedy proposal, but my objection was procedural, and I am happy to support the renaming unless someone offers persuasive reasons to oppose. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 17:31, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
- Rename to Category:Santiago de Chile and Category:History of Santiago de Chile. Santiago de Cuba is a fairly large city, so disambiguation preferable, and the "city de country" naming pattern is standard for Spanish-language named cities. Mayumashu (talk) 00:29, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
- I'm not sure I agree with you. The Chilean city is the country's capital city and the largest city in the country with a population of 7 million. The Cuban city is not a capital and only has a population of 400,000. I think the Chilean city is far more prominent and that when a reader goes to Category:Santiago they would expect it to it to be about the Chilean city, e.g. the first page of my Google search for "Santiago" gives only results for the Chilean city. Jenks24 (talk) 19:54, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
- Maybe you're right - the difference here is likely more comparable to that between London and London, Ontario than Birmingham, West Midlands and Birmingham, Alabama Mayumashu (talk) 02:32, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
- Strong oppose whatever the primarity of the article, it is clearly ambiguous, since Santiago_(disambiguation). The category should not be so ambiguous, cleanup is a function required for ambiguous categories. 70.49.124.147 (talk) 05:20, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
- That's a poor argument. Should we rename Category:London and Category:Paris just because London (disambiguation) and Paris (disambiguation) exist? Obviously not. Jenks24 (talk) 19:54, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
- Oppose – it is clearly ambiguous, so Category:Santiago will not do for the category name (cf Category:Birmingham and Birmingham; and quite a few other examples). Oculi (talk) 19:18, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
Category:Booker Prize
- Propose renaming Category:Booker Prize to Category:Man Booker Prize for Fiction
- Propose renaming Category:Booker Prize winners to Category:Man Booker Prize for Fiction winners
- Nominator's rationale: Since 2002, the Man Booker Prize has been sponsored by the Man Group. We tend to go by the modern name of any award; for example, we recently changed Category:Whitbread Awards to Category:Costa Book Awards.-- Mike Selinker (talk) 01:00, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
Copy of Speedy discussion
|
---|
|
- Rename per nom. (I was the original speedy nominator.) With award categories, we generally go with the current name and make it the same as the article name, which is Man Booker Prize. This does set up "anachronisms" of a sort, but it's better than having multiple categories with different names for the same award. Already one of the subcategories is Category:Man Booker Prize for Fiction winning works. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:38, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
- Delete the winners category. We generally do not categorize people by award won, it leads to category clutter.John Pack Lambert (talk) 03:59, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
- Rename per nom, using current name, Man Booker Prize, of article. This is a major national award in the UK covered for days if not weeks in all the media. Oculi (talk) 10:28, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
- Oppose renaming, to avoid anachronistic categorisation. Keep winners category, because this is one of the major prizes in literary fiction, and a win is definitely a defining characteristic of its winners. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 12:02, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
- Oppose the Man thing. Simply change them / keep them as Booker Prize, Category:Booker Prize and Category:Booker Prize winners. With regard to the title, what about the above examples of Mercury Prize and FA Cup? Most of the people in the category have never won the Man Booker Prize because it did not exist untila few years ago. But it has been commonly known as the Booker Prize throughout its existence (note that it is not now called the Man Group Prize and that the "Booker" bit is retained.) The example given by the nominator of Category:Whitbread Awards > Category:Costa Book Awards does not apply to the Booker Prize - it is not now known as the Costa Whitbread Award, is it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.40.108.34 (talk) 20:14, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
Category:Archipelagoes of the Republic of China
- Propose deleting: Category:Archipelagoes of the Republic of China - Template:Lc1
- Nominator's rationale: Fails WP:SMALLCAT. Both items in this category are already in the much larger Category:Islands of Taiwan. – NULL ‹talk›
‹edits› 00:08, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
- Strong Support "Archipelagoes of ..." is a well established category tree but doesn't really match the geography of the ROC. Taiwan is one large island with very small islands around it, Matsu is more of a political/military subdivision of Fujian Province than a geographic one, and the Spratlys are claimed by a half dozen countries. RevelationDirect (talk) 02:08, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
- I am afraid this isn't the case. The Matsu Islands is a geographic one. The same is true for the Pescadores. 116.48.85.251 (talk) 20:06, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
- Keep as part of the Archipelagoes by country hierarchy. 116.48.85.251 (talk) 20:06, 22 April 2012 (UTC)