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:'''Nominator's rationale:''' '''Rename''' per the result at [[Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2008_May_19#All_sub-categories_of_Category:Concert_tours|this CfD]]. This particular subcat wasn't in the main category at the time of the nomination. [[User:Bencherlite|Bencherlite]][[User talk:Bencherlite|<i><sup>Talk</sup></i>]] 10:00, 6 June 2008 (UTC) |
:'''Nominator's rationale:''' '''Rename''' per the result at [[Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2008_May_19#All_sub-categories_of_Category:Concert_tours|this CfD]]. This particular subcat wasn't in the main category at the time of the nomination. [[User:Bencherlite|Bencherlite]][[User talk:Bencherlite|<i><sup>Talk</sup></i>]] 10:00, 6 June 2008 (UTC) |
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*'''Rename''' per precedent.--[[User:Lenticel|<span style="color: teal; background: white; font-weight: bold">Lenticel</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:Lenticel|<span style="color: green; font-weight: bold">talk</span>]])</sup> 00:21, 7 June 2008 (UTC) |
*'''Rename''' per precedent.--[[User:Lenticel|<span style="color: teal; background: white; font-weight: bold">Lenticel</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:Lenticel|<span style="color: green; font-weight: bold">talk</span>]])</sup> 00:21, 7 June 2008 (UTC) |
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*'''Rename''' - "concert" is a relevant addition. <b><font face="Arial" color="teal">[[User:Jaakobou|Jaakobou]]</font><font color="1F860E"><sup>''[[User talk:Jaakobou|Chalk Talk]]''</sup></font></b> 19:35, 8 June 2008 (UTC) |
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Revision as of 19:35, 8 June 2008
June 6
NEW NOMINATIONS
Category:Curling by year
- Suggest merging Category:Curling by year to Category:Years in curling
- Nominator's rationale: Merge, Duplicate categories. Could merge either way, but this way matches to the parent article. - TexasAndroid (talk) 20:17, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- Merge to category:Years in curling per nom. It seems that both X by year and Years in X are used roughly at the same number. --Lenticel (talk) 00:20, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
- Merge certainly. Support either direction. -- roundhouse0 (talk) 00:27, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
- Suggest merging Category:Literature-related lists to Category:Literature lists
- Nominator's rationale: Merge; Duplicates the already-established Category:Literature lists. Her Pegship (tis herself) 19:22, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- Merge per nom.--Lenticel (talk) 00:15, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
- Merge - the word "related" is superfluous. JaakobouChalk Talk 19:31, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
Category:Automobile commercial failures
- Category:Automobile commercial failures - Template:Lc1
- Nominator's rationale: List of automobiles that were commercial failures was discussed for deletion in August 2006 and the decision was DELETE on the main grounds that there is no clearly defined definition of a commercial failure so any entry is inherently PoV . This category seems to be a recreation of the previously mentioned list and the same determinants apply Malcolma (talk) 17:05, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. —Scheinwerfermann (talk) 18:15, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. I thought that this was raised here onece before and the decision was to delete. Vegaswikian1 (talk) 00:58, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
- Delete per nom.--Lenticel (talk) 01:15, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
- Delete — There is no way to measure a commercial failure. For example, should almost all Italian cars be included because they have been failures in the U.S. marketplace? It would also be necessary to list all large SUVs and trucks in this category now that GM is shutting down factories. — CZmarlin (talk) 03:43, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
- Delete - a very similar article was deleted, and I believe all reasons stated during that AfD are relevant here. PrinceGloria (talk) 17:44, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
Category:Novels by Lori Jareo
- Category:Novels by Lori Jareo - Template:Lc1
- Nominator's rationale: Unncessary category. Author has only one self-published work, and it is doubtful any legitimate publisher will touch her for any potential future works. TheRealFennShysa (talk) 16:39, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- Comment: Harumph. This one is a bit of a bother. On the one hand, I've suggested merging Lori Jareo into Another Hope, since quite literally everything in the "bio" article is about the controversy over the novel. There really is no biography to speak of -- though it did squeak by AFD with a "no concensus Keep".
On the other hand, however, the head note at Category:Novels by author states: "Please note that all single-author novel articles should have subcategories here, even if it's the only novel the author has recorded." It's not clear to me where concensus on that was hammered out, but it seems to be accepted practice, both for that and other analagous categories. And it isn't restricted to authors who have Wikipedia bios. That said, I seriously doubt that anybody gave any thought to the issue of self-published books, so it's certainly a legitimate question to raise. Notified creator with {{subst:cfd-notify}}
Cgingold (talk) 19:10, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
Category:Milliman founder
- Category:Milliman founder - Template:Lc1
- Nominator's rationale: Delete as unnecessary category with no potential for growth. BencherliteTalk 10:03, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- Delete as per nom. Category:Milliman employees looks dubious too. Andy Dingley (talk) 12:35, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- Delete - small category with no growth potential. Otto4711 (talk) 16:05, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- Delete no chance of expansion.--Lenticel (talk) 00:13, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
- Delete - unnecessary category for the 2 founders of of Milliman, Inc. JaakobouChalk Talk 19:34, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
Category:Gloria Estefan tours
- Propose renaming Category:Gloria Estefan tours to Category:Gloria Estefan concert tours
- Nominator's rationale: Rename per the result at this CfD. This particular subcat wasn't in the main category at the time of the nomination. BencherliteTalk 10:00, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- Rename per precedent.--Lenticel (talk) 00:21, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
- Rename - "concert" is a relevant addition. JaakobouChalk Talk 19:35, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
Category:Rugby, England
- Propose renaming Category:Rugby, England to Category:Rugby, Warwickshire
- Nominator's rationale: Rename to match main article, Rugby, Warwickshire. Listed as a speedy, but ineligible. BencherliteTalk 09:45, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- Category:Rugby, England to Category:Rugby, Warwickshire - consistent with naming conventions on place names, to use the county as the disambiguator. Also to match main article name. DWaterson (talk) 23:55, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- A good idea but this is not one of the speedy rename criteria. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:39, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- These two comments were moved here from the speedy section. BencherliteTalk 09:48, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- Comment. I don't really have an agree or disagree here. I will say that almost all other categories based on English towns simply are the name of the town. Yes rugby is the name of sport as well but we don't have a Category called Rugby. --WoohookittyWoohoo! 09:59, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- Comment - there is indeed no category Category:Rugby but it does contain Santiago Gomez Cora (a rugby player) and demonstrates why it won't do for Rugby, Warwickshire. (I prefer 'Rugby, England' myself, contrary to the UK naming conventions.) -- roundhouse0 (talk) 10:32, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- Support, as original nominator. Category:Rugby is too ambiguous even though it doesn't exist at the moment, and of course Category:Rugby union and Category:Rugby league would not be subcats of Category:Rugby. Deprecate speedy renaming policy due to the silliness of not having a criterion for uncontroversial renaming (unlike uncontroversial requested moves). DWaterson (talk) 17:43, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- Support original nom. 1) "Rugby" is too ambiguous; 2) standard convention is for "Rugby, Warwickshire"; 3) no-one in the UK would think of referring to the place as "Rugby, England", and as such the current name isn't the most likely to be used (I daresay if left, sooner or later we'll find a parallel creation of Category:Rugby, Warwickshire made by someone who was unaware of this one). Grutness...wha? 01:43, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
- The point is that there isn't another Rugby in the UK so someone in the UK would say 'Rugby', or 'Rugby, near Coventry/Birmingham'. Someone not in the UK will find 'Rugby, England' more useful than 'Rugby, Warwickshire' as Warwickshire is not known globally (or even in the UK). (There is Category:Birmingham, England.) -- roundhouse0 (talk) 01:56, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
Category:Eugene C. Eppley
- Category:Eugene C. Eppley - Template:Lc1
- Nominator's rationale: Delete - small category with little to no likelihood of expansion, lead article serves as an appropriate navigational hub. Otto4711 (talk) 09:34, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- Delete – the nom's arguments are faultless. -- roundhouse0 (talk) 09:43, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- Keep - I am the creator of the cat, and the associated articles. The following topics are named in honor of Eppley, and several are notable enough to warrant WP articles, which I will be creating. This category will be filled out with these articles:
- Eugene C. Eppley Administration Building at the University of Nebraska at Omaha
- Eugene C. Eppley Center at Michigan State University
- Eugene C. Eppley College of Business Administration at Creighton University
- Eppley Institute for Research in Cancer and Allied Diseases at the University of Nebraska Medical Center
- Eugene C. Eppley Auditorium and the Eppley Club at Culver Academies in Culver, Indiana
- Eugene C. Eppley Fine Arts Building at Morningside College
- Gene Eppley Camp, a Salvation Army camp in Bellevue, Nebraska
There are also several businesses that Eppley was associated with that will be of note. Keeping the category is the only reasonable way to attribute these topics accordingly, and to avoid the development of a template that will capture their commonality. • Freechild'sup? 14:04, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- Delete per nom; the Eugene C. Eppley Administration Building at the University of Nebraska at Omaha does not need an article, and "Eugene C. Eppley" is not defining for the university itself. Johnbod (talk) 18:08, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
Category:Trần Hưng Đạo
- Category:Trần Hưng Đạo - Template:Lc1
- Nominator's rationale: Delete - small category, low likelihood of expansion, main article serves as an appropriate navigational hub. Otto4711 (talk) 09:24, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- Delete – the nom's arguments are beyond reproach. -- roundhouse0 (talk) 09:44, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- Delete per nom.--Lenticel (talk) 01:17, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
Category:Executive orders of John Kennedy
Category:WAGs
- Category:WAGs
- Nominator's rationale: I created the Category:WAGs category because this is a very common British abbreviation and category, standing for "Wives And Girlfriends (of soccer/football players)". See WAGs for more information, or wiktionary:WAG for a definition. The term has gained common parlance in Britain. However, when I tried to add the WAGs category to all the obvious contenders (most of whom are mentioned in WAGs) such as Cheryl Cole, Louise Redknapp, Joanna Taylor, Nancy Dell'Olio, Alex Curran, Victoria Beckham, Coleen McLoughlin, these were all reset by someone who was unaware of the definition of WAGs and thought that I was vandalising a page. See discussions at the end of User_talk:Thingg and on my own User_talk:Tris2000. An administrator noticed that the user had made a mistake in referring me as a "vandal" and retracted all my warnings, but has recommended that I bring the category up here for discussion. This is a cultural difference; however, renaming the category "Wives And Girlfriends" would make no sense, as WAGs is in such common use in the UK that most people don't even associate what it stands for. Anyone looking for the category would look under "Wa" in the categories list and certainly wouldn't look under "Wi" (which, with so many categories commencing with "Wiki", is a major pain as it is). I would like to keep the catgory as Category:WAGs but as the word clearly means something else in other cultures, I need some guidance. Can I add the WAGs category to the above obvious candidates (and more), or should I rename it as Category:WAGs_(Wives_And_Girlfriends)? I'd rather not, because adding four letters "WAGs" as a category will be much easier for everyone else who wishes to add to the list in the future. Many thanks - the dispute with the Thingg has now ended and he apologised very nicely for the accusation, but if I start adding WAGs category to all the above girls again, I imagine someone else, unaware of the British usage of the term, will then try and revert it again! Tris2000 (talk) 08:42, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- Support Category:WAGs, complementary to article WAGs. Tris2000 is correct re UK usage. -- roundhouse0 (talk) 09:18, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- Rename per nom & R; undoubtedly defining in all, or nearly all, cases. Johnbod (talk) 12:05, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- Rename if kept to something other then WAG. Category:Wives and Girlfriends might be an alternative but that name is ambiguous. Maybe Category:Wives and Girlfriends of soccer/football players? Vegaswikian1 (talk) 01:05, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
- Comment why are we categorizing the wives and girlfriends of footballers? Does that mean we should do it for all sports? Is this restricted to the UK? If kept, and restricted to the UK, then Category:British footballers' female companions. WAGs are Wild Assed Guesses, and therefore extremely ambiguously named. 70.51.9.251 (talk) 05:56, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
- Comment - the category is not tagged for discussion. If it were I would say delete as trivia. Otto4711 (talk) 19:20, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
- Comment - Sorry - I meant to tag it for discussion, I'm not sure how to do it but if someone would be happy to help I would appreciate it. Those who say it's "trivia" or wonder why we should do it should remember that this is a cultural thing: in the UK there probably is not a single person in the entire country who does not know what WAG is, and probably not a single tabloid on any given day that doesn't refer to the term WAGs. Never referred to as "Wives and Girlfriends". Re: another comment here, it started off being just British footballers but the term is growing in Europe, and is often in the Swedish and German press when referring to their own players' wives. Nuria Bermúdez would certainly be an example of a Spanish WAG, for argument's sake. Tris2000 (talk) 18:29, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
Category:Photographs by User:Staxringold
- Category:Photographs by User:Staxringold ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: Delete - Per precedent here, here, here, and here, personal image categories are not needed. If allowed would set precedent to keep a similiar type of category for every individual user. Galleries are usually found on user subpages, there is no need for a category to be made for each user's images. VegaDark (talk) 08:10, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- Delete - per nom and unanimous precedent. Otto4711 (talk) 09:14, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- Delete per best practices and precedent. - Dravecky (talk) 00:22, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
- Delete per nom.--Lenticel (talk) 01:02, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
Category:Mongolian surnames
- Category:Mongolian surnames - Template:Lc1
- Nominator's rationale: There's no such thing as a "Mongolian surname", as Mongolian name correctly explains. One of the two entries is a clan name (an entirely different type of name), and the other isn't Mongolian, even if derived of a historical Mongolian name. The single-item list at the top seems to refer to Alan Goa, and has no obvious connection to either of the other two. I don't see how any of this makes much sense as a category. If more than one matching entry can actually be found, then a "List of surnames of Mongolian origin" might theoretically be an option. --Latebird (talk) 06:47, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Mongolia-related deletion discussions. —Latebird (talk) 06:47, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
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