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*'''Merge''' per [[User:MichaelQSchmidt|MQS]]. <span style="font-family:monospace;background:lightgrey;border:solid 1px;border-radius:5px;"> '''''[[User:Insertcleverphrasehere|Insert]][[Special:Contributions/Insertcleverphrasehere|CleverPhrase]][[User talk:Insertcleverphrasehere|Here]]''''' </span> 00:36, 28 May 2016 (UTC) |
*'''Merge''' per [[User:MichaelQSchmidt|MQS]]. <span style="font-family:monospace;background:lightgrey;border:solid 1px;border-radius:5px;"> '''''[[User:Insertcleverphrasehere|Insert]][[Special:Contributions/Insertcleverphrasehere|CleverPhrase]][[User talk:Insertcleverphrasehere|Here]]''''' </span> 00:36, 28 May 2016 (UTC) |
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:* To clarify, I believe the coverage I found and offered shows the topic as meeting [[WP:GNG]] and that this topic has the [[WP:N|notability]] enough to merit a '''keep'''. My mentioning a merge and redirect was only a secondary consideration. '''[[User:MichaelQSchmidt|<font color="blue">Schmidt, </font>]]''' ''[[User talk:MichaelQSchmidt|<sup><small>Michael Q.</small></sup>]]'' 00:57, 28 May 2016 (UTC) |
:* To clarify, I believe the coverage [[WP:BURDEN|I found and offered]] shows the topic as meeting [[WP:GNG]] and that this topic has the [[WP:N|notability]] enough to merit a '''keep'''. My mentioning a merge and redirect was only a secondary consideration. '''[[User:MichaelQSchmidt|<font color="blue">Schmidt, </font>]]''' ''[[User talk:MichaelQSchmidt|<sup><small>Michael Q.</small></sup>]]'' 00:57, 28 May 2016 (UTC) |
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*'''Delete''', but without a strong objection to '''Merge''' and '''Redirect''' to [[Open-source film]] ''if'' there's anything to merge. That's an impressive list of sources, but upon inspection most are brief mentions and a whole lot of them are the exact same article printed in different places. Certainly fails [[WP:NFILM]]/[[WP:GNG]], but if there's something to use over at the open-source film article, go for it (that article, by the way, is currently an indiscriminate link farm, but that's another issue). — <tt>[[User:Rhododendrites|<span style="font-size:90%;letter-spacing:1px;text-shadow:0px -1px 0px Indigo;">Rhododendrites</span>]] <sup style="font-size:80%;">[[User_talk:Rhododendrites|talk]]</sup></tt> \\ 04:34, 31 May 2016 (UTC) |
*'''Delete''', but without a strong objection to '''Merge''' and '''Redirect''' to [[Open-source film]] ''if'' there's anything to merge. That's an impressive list of sources, but upon inspection most are brief mentions and a whole lot of them are the exact same article printed in different places. Certainly fails [[WP:NFILM]]/[[WP:GNG]], but if there's something to use over at the open-source film article, go for it (that article, by the way, is currently an indiscriminate link farm, but that's another issue). — <tt>[[User:Rhododendrites|<span style="font-size:90%;letter-spacing:1px;text-shadow:0px -1px 0px Indigo;">Rhododendrites</span>]] <sup style="font-size:80%;">[[User_talk:Rhododendrites|talk]]</sup></tt> \\ 04:34, 31 May 2016 (UTC) |
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:* Well, guideline tells us that when we have few [[WP:SUBSTANTIAL|substantial]] sources, multiple less-than-substantial ones can show a notability. {{smiley}} '''[[User:MichaelQSchmidt|<font color="blue">Schmidt, </font>]]''' ''[[User talk:MichaelQSchmidt|<sup><small>Michael Q.</small></sup>]]'' 05:36, 1 June 2016 (UTC) |
:* Well, guideline tells us that when we have few [[WP:SUBSTANTIAL|substantial]] sources, multiple less-than-substantial ones can show a notability. {{smiley}} '''[[User:MichaelQSchmidt|<font color="blue">Schmidt, </font>]]''' ''[[User talk:MichaelQSchmidt|<sup><small>Michael Q.</small></sup>]]'' 05:36, 1 June 2016 (UTC) |
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:::{{ping|MichaelQSchmidt}} Specifically to which guideline do you refer? <span style="font-family:monospace;background:lightgrey;border:solid 1px;border-radius:5px;"> '''''[[User: |
:::{{ping|MichaelQSchmidt}} Specifically to which guideline do you refer? <span style="font-family:monospace;background:lightgrey;border:solid 1px;border-radius:5px;"> '''''[[User:Robert McClenon|Insert]][[Special:Contributions/Insertcleverphrasehere|CleverPhrase]][[User talk:Insertcleverphrasehere|Here]]''''' </span> 04:07, 8 June 2016 (UTC) |
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:::: [[WP:N]]. '''[[User:MichaelQSchmidt|<font color="blue">Schmidt, </font>]]''' ''[[User talk:MichaelQSchmidt|<sup><small>Michael Q.</small></sup>]]'' 16:22, 8 June 2016 (UTC) |
:::: {{ping|Insertcleverphrasehere}} "Specifically" I use the community standards set by [[WP:N]]. '''[[User:MichaelQSchmidt|<font color="blue">Schmidt, </font>]]''' ''[[User talk:MichaelQSchmidt|<sup><small>Michael Q.</small></sup>]]'' 16:22, 8 June 2016 (UTC) |
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Stray Cinema
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I found this article months ago and I nominated it for speedy in December with which it was removed and added a source, however with the comment that it was still questionable therefore here we are at AfD. FWIW, my searches have found nothing better than this. SwisterTwister talk 05:01, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. SwisterTwister talk 05:01, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions. SwisterTwister talk 05:01, 16 May 2016 (UTC)\
- Keep per meeting WP:ORG through coverage. Sorry nominator, your google-foo must be broken. I found non-PR in Inside Film, The Age, Screen Daily, and others. This needs work, not deletion. Schmidt, Michael Q. 09:07, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
- Keep per MQS's analysis. Passes WP:GNG. ThePlatypusofDoom (Talk) 11:21, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
- Delete, 2 sources above only mention this "film" in passing and make no comment on its merit and the other is only promotional and very short.--Grahame (talk) 01:28, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
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- Response @Grahamec: With a bit more digging, it actually seems there is far wider coverage available of "Stray Cinema" and open source films: Daily Telegraph, Brisbane Times, The Age, Open Source, Sydney Morning Herald, Encore Magazine, Open Business (1), Open Business (2), Medien ABC (German), Scoop, Courier Mail, The New Zealand Open Source Society, DV Guru, etc. And so rather than it being just one specific film, it is also a locus where filmmakers can get footage to create their own projects using that open source footage. Those sources shared, I think if not found notable to Australia and/or New Zealand through coverage and expanded with the FOUND sources, it could serve our readers if partly merged to open-source film and then this "article title" redirected there. Thoughts? Schmidt, Michael Q. 06:12, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
- I am satisfied with any redirect or such, whatever is best. SwisterTwister talk 18:55, 22 May 2016 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, st170etalk 21:41, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, st170etalk 21:41, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
- To clarify, I believe the coverage I found and offered shows the topic as meeting WP:GNG and that this topic has the notability enough to merit a keep. My mentioning a merge and redirect was only a secondary consideration. Schmidt, Michael Q. 00:57, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, st170etalk 23:57, 30 May 2016 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, st170etalk 23:57, 30 May 2016 (UTC)
- Delete, but without a strong objection to Merge and Redirect to Open-source film if there's anything to merge. That's an impressive list of sources, but upon inspection most are brief mentions and a whole lot of them are the exact same article printed in different places. Certainly fails WP:NFILM/WP:GNG, but if there's something to use over at the open-source film article, go for it (that article, by the way, is currently an indiscriminate link farm, but that's another issue). — Rhododendrites talk \\ 04:34, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
- Well, guideline tells us that when we have few substantial sources, multiple less-than-substantial ones can show a notability.
Schmidt, Michael Q. 05:36, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
- @MichaelQSchmidt: Specifically to which guideline do you refer? InsertCleverPhraseHere 04:07, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
- @Insertcleverphrasehere: "Specifically" I use the community standards set by WP:N. Schmidt, Michael Q. 16:22, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
- @MichaelQSchmidt: Specifically to which guideline do you refer? InsertCleverPhraseHere 04:07, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
- Well, guideline tells us that when we have few substantial sources, multiple less-than-substantial ones can show a notability.