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===[[Space Penguins of Tuscumbia]]=== |
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No reliable sources for this obscure 1960s UFO encounter (which was initially speedied as a hoax), just a [[WP:SPS]] monster blog from a couple of years ago and a brief entry in a paranormal database. [[User:McGeddon|McGeddon]] ([[User talk:McGeddon|talk]]) 18:24, 3 March 2014 (UTC) |
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* '''Delete'''. Sources included are highly unreliable, and doesn't meet [[WP:GNG]]. Obscure UFO encounter claims don't merit a page. [[User:Mikeman67|mikeman67]] ([[User talk:Mikeman67|talk]]) 20:34, 3 March 2014 (UTC) |
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* '''Dont Delete.''' Mikeman67@: You dont seem to know the difference between a reliable and unreliable source. You have to CHECK the source before evaluating it´s reliability. So i would say your voice doesnt count here --[[User:SpongebobLawyerPants|SpongebobLawyerPants]] ([[User talk:SpongebobLawyerPants|talk]]) 20:51, 3 March 2014 (UTC)}} |
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* {{strikethrough|'''DONT DELETE.'''}} Hello, there are no reasons to delete this article. I found at least 2 reliable sources which dont refer to each other, so they are 2 different sources. The americanmonsters.com author Rob Morphy seems to be an expert in UFO incidents and cryptids. His articles are neutral and their main purpose is to inform the readers, not to entertain them. The case is even mentioned by a highly reliable museum site proving that the "Space Penguins" arent just an invention of Rob Morphy and it is also mentioned in the second source (which is a database). Actually Morphy´s publication is based on newspaper reports. I will try to find some more sources, but even the 3 ones i have already found justify the existence of this article. --[[User:SpongebobLawyerPants|SpongebobLawyerPants]] ([[User talk:SpongebobLawyerPants|talk]]) 18:43, 3 March 2014 (UTC) |
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* {{strikethrough|'''DONT DELETE.'''}} Another site mentioning the case: http://ufoupdateslist.com/1997/may/m02-004.shtml --[[User:SpongebobLawyerPants|SpongebobLawyerPants]] ([[User talk:SpongebobLawyerPants|talk]]) 22:17, 3 March 2014 (UTC) |
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* {{strikethrough|'''DONT DELETE.'''}} Finally ! Here is a very good source. Its taken from a journal. Read it and you will understand that a deletion doesnt make any sense. Look at page 18 (or 19), you will see Edwards´ sketch and the description of the incident ! http://www.theblackvault.com/encyclopedia/documents/MUFON/Journals/2005/November_2005.pdf --[[User:SpongebobLawyerPants|SpongebobLawyerPants]] ([[User talk:SpongebobLawyerPants|talk]]) 22:05, 3 March 2014 (UTC) |
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*'''Delete''' No reliable sources found for this obscure UFO story. Americanmonsters.com, ufoupdateslist.com, theblackvault.com are [[WP:FRINGE|fringe]] sites and don't meet our criteria for [[WP:RS|reliable sources]]. - [[User:LuckyLouie|LuckyLouie]] ([[User talk:LuckyLouie|talk]]) 03:31, 4 March 2014 (UTC) |
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:<small class="delsort-notice">Note: This debate has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Missouri|list of Missouri-related deletion discussions]]. [[User:Gene93k|• Gene93k]] ([[User talk:Gene93k|talk]]) 00:57, 4 March 2014 (UTC)</small> |
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:<small class="delsort-notice">Note: This debate has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Events|list of Events-related deletion discussions]]. [[User:Gene93k|• Gene93k]] ([[User talk:Gene93k|talk]]) 00:57, 4 March 2014 (UTC)</small> |
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:<small class="delsort-notice">Note: This debate has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Paranormal|list of Paranormal-related deletion discussions]]. [[User:Gene93k|• Gene93k]] ([[User talk:Gene93k|talk]]) 00:57, 4 March 2014 (UTC)</small> |
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*'''Delete'''. I searched, I really did. However the thing is that there just isn't any coverage in places that Wikipedia could consider to be reliable. There's a distinct lack of coverage even in the fringe sites and while it's not like we can use those as a RS anyway, it's kind of telling that even the fringe sites and outlets don't really seem to find any of this particularly noteworthy. Other than a very small handful of people, nobody is talking about this anywhere. I can't even find enough to where I'd suggest even merging a one line sentence into the main page for the village. Even Weird U.S., which tends to cover stuff like this, has sort of just shrugged its shoulders and moved on to cover other things. This is about as non-notable of an alien incident as you can get. [[User:Tokyogirl79|Tokyogirl79]][[user talk:Tokyogirl79|'''<span style='color: #19197;background-color: #FFFFFF;'> (。◕‿◕。)</span>''']] 04:33, 4 March 2014 (UTC) |
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*'''Delete''' it doesn't even come close to meeting [[WP:RS]] since MUFON is a [[WP:FRINGE]] publication. [[User:Simonm223|Simonm223]] ([[User talk:Simonm223|talk]]) 14:32, 4 March 2014 (UTC) |
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*'''Delete''' - I can't find coverage in [[WP:RS|sources that Wikipedia would deem reliable]], so there's no way it meets [[WP:GNG|Wikipedia's standard for a subject having a stand-alone article]]. Its not "bias", it just flat out doesn't meet the requirements. [[User:Sergecross73|<font color="green">Sergecross73</font>]] [[User talk:Sergecross73|<font color="teal">msg me</font>]] 16:23, 4 March 2014 (UTC) |
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{{hat|Hatting troll and responses. Nothing to see here. [[User:Lukeno94|<font color="Navy">Luke</font><font color="FireBrick">no</font><font color="Green">94</font>]] [[User talk:Lukeno94#top|<i>(tell Luke off here)</i>]] 17:27, 4 March 2014 (UTC)}} |
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::Sergecross73@: I can list here hundreds of Wikipedia articles whose sources are even worse than the 3 i have already found. And whatever you say: Either your opinion is biased or you arent a qualified Wikipedia author. Dont waste your time by posting your personal opinion. The sources are reliable and i see no reason to delete this article --[[User:SpongebobLawyerPants|SpongebobLawyerPants]] ([[User talk:SpongebobLawyerPants|talk]]) 16:38, 4 March 2014 (UTC) |
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:::Other articles being in worth shape just means they should probably be deleted too. Feel free to list them for deletion. But that's not a valid reason to keep this article. Also, please stop writing everything in '''bold''', and stop accusing everyone of being biased. If you haven't noticed, its not working, no one agrees with you. Your energy would be much better spent in trying to find some better sources. [[User:Sergecross73|<font color="green">Sergecross73</font>]] [[User talk:Sergecross73|<font color="teal">msg me</font>]] 17:07, 4 March 2014 (UTC) |
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*'''Super strong delete''' sourcing inadequate. Looks like a [[WP:HOAX]]. [[User:Barney the barney barney|Barney the barney barney]] ([[User talk:Barney the barney barney|talk]]) 16:42, 4 March 2014 (UTC) |
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*'''Delete.''' Just another run-of-the-mill UFO story, entirely lacking coverage in the sort of mainstream sources which would make it notable according to Wikipedia guidelines. And SpongebobLawyerPants should note that repeating the same statement multiple times achieves nothing whatsoever. [[User:AndyTheGrump|AndyTheGrump]] ([[User talk:AndyTheGrump|talk]]) 16:43, 4 March 2014 (UTC) |
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*'''Delete.''' Easiest decision I've made all week. Get rid of the poorly sourced nonsense. -[[User:Roxy the dog|Roxy the dog]] ([[User talk:Roxy the dog|resonate]]) 17:06, 4 March 2014 (UTC) |
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*'''Delete''' as being blatantly non-notable. [[User:Lukeno94|<font color="Navy">Luke</font><font color="FireBrick">no</font><font color="Green">94</font>]] [[User talk:Lukeno94#top|<i>(tell Luke off here)</i>]] 17:27, 4 March 2014 (UTC) |
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The discussion is over: We have come to the conclusion, that there are no convincing reasons to delete this article.