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*I've read both and I stand corrected. Zoe, I was ignorant regarding the purpose and nature of Wikipedia and what is considered notable. However, I feel that we are, in general, special and worthy of note. Should the page be deleted, so be it. It changes only our status here in. Cheers!--[[User:DukeofAntwerp|DukeofAntwerp]] 00:45, 30 September 2006 (UTC) |
*I've read both and I stand corrected. Zoe, I was ignorant regarding the purpose and nature of Wikipedia and what is considered notable. However, I feel that we are, in general, special and worthy of note. Should the page be deleted, so be it. It changes only our status here in. Cheers!--[[User:DukeofAntwerp|DukeofAntwerp]] 00:45, 30 September 2006 (UTC) |
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*'''Do not Delete''' Notable and being featured in a documentary currently in production by Wheat City Films.--[[User:Drewdaily|Drewdaily]] 11:14, 30 September 2006 (UTC) |
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Principality of Vikesland
Non-notable fake country, vanity article. FairHair 20:01, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
- According to the references section of the article, there's a book that covers this micronation. Uncle G 20:56, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
- Vikesland has been published, see Micronations: The Lonely Planet Guide to Self-Proclaimed Nations, Lonely Planet, 2006. ISBN: 1741047307 --DukeofAntwerp 21:07, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
- The Principality of Vikesland is a micronation and meets the criteria for statehood set forth by both the Montevideo Conventionand the European Community Opinions of the Badinter Arbitration Committee. The main criteria being a defined territory, permanent population, government and the capacity to enter into relationships with other sovereign states are the only foundation requirements for a sovereign state. None of these requirements necessarily has to conform to a certain size or standard, but their general characteristics should be taken into account.--DukeofAntwerp 21:07, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
- Those have nothing to do with the criteria for having an encyclopaedia article. Uncle G 22:26, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
- Further, following the link to Micronations page, one will find several micronations that have no defined territory or territory that is far less than that of Vikesland...all of which currently have had Wikipedia pages running for some time now.--DukeofAntwerp 21:07, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
- Speedy delete, the Micronations book makes fun of these nonsense places (the description at amazon.ca, for example, reads This is a fully illustrated, humorous mock-guidebook to the nations that people create in their own backyards--most of which can be visited. ). And the book itself isn't even available through amazon.com. There is no notability of this place. It's not like Sealand, for example. User:Zoe|(talk) 21:22, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
- Zoe statements are false, first, this is the link to buy the book on Amazon, http://www.amazon.com/Lonely-Planet-Micronations-Travel-Guides/dp/1741047307/sr=8-1/qid=1159566696/ref=pd_bbs_1/102-4182735-0895352?ie=UTF8&s=books . Second, the authors of "Micronations" state, "Although a newcomer to the micronational world, Vikesland's government has been working hard to establish a system of sustainable government...with a comprehensive constitution (including a chapter of fundamental rights and bills renouncing war), a royal council to oversee government, and outward-looking policies, the principality is well positioned to take it's place at the forefront of micronational affairs. ... The name Vikesland honors the adventuring spirit of the Vikings, while also highlighting the principality's physical land base." However, with all due respect to Sealand, Zoe is correct in that the royal ranch land alone is 650,000 sq meters. Again, this all according to "Micronations," the book.--DukeofAntwerp 22:03, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
- I apologize, then, when I plugged in "Micronations: The Lonely Planet Guide to Self-Proclaimed Nations" nothing came up at amazon.com, although it did at amazon.ca, but the amazon.com description itself tells us that this subject is nn - For lovers of humour, trivia and ephemera. And I won't even dignify the discussion of land area. Size isn't everything. User:Zoe|(talk) 22:07, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
- And please note that DukeofAntwerp (talk · contribs) has no edits to any other topics except for this one. User:Zoe|(talk) 22:09, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
- And did the book actually say take it's place? I would have thought they would have better editors than that. User:Zoe|(talk) 22:10, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
- BTW, if we eliminate Wikipedia and the "Principality"'s own website, we get 24 Google hits. User:Zoe|(talk) 22:16, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
- I am David Howe and a member of Vikesland's Royal Council. I fail to see why that is an issue, unless perhaps a person who has more knowledge than yourself about the true nature of Vikeland and what is actually written by the authors of "Micronations," a book that you apparently have never touched, has to say. Pardon me for the defending the predatory actions of a few. You're negative agenda here is obvious.--DukeofAntwerp 22:20, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
- You could have just followed the ISBN link that is in the article. Uncle G 22:26, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
- I apologize, then, when I plugged in "Micronations: The Lonely Planet Guide to Self-Proclaimed Nations" nothing came up at amazon.com, although it did at amazon.ca, but the amazon.com description itself tells us that this subject is nn - For lovers of humour, trivia and ephemera. And I won't even dignify the discussion of land area. Size isn't everything. User:Zoe|(talk) 22:07, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
- Zoe's issues seem to go against the nature of Wikipedia and one of the reasons why it is so useful. It's never dated, and is as current as right now. It would seem to go against the grain of Wikipedia to want to turn it into the stale dated versions of its book bound predecessors.--DukeofAntwerp 22:35, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
- Please see Wikipedia:Single purpose account and Wikipedia:Notability. User:Zoe|(talk) 23:14, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
- I've read both and I stand corrected. Zoe, I was ignorant regarding the purpose and nature of Wikipedia and what is considered notable. However, I feel that we are, in general, special and worthy of note. Should the page be deleted, so be it. It changes only our status here in. Cheers!--DukeofAntwerp 00:45, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
- Delete nonsuchplace. Carlossuarez46 03:25, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
- Do not Delete Notable and being featured in a documentary currently in production by Wheat City Films.--Drewdaily 11:14, 30 September 2006 (UTC)