Maverick (Meg album)
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No references or qualify under WP:NMUSIC JayJayTalk to me 02:38, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:38, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:39, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
- Keep: Even if some of the singles are deleted at AfD, there's no reason to also delete the charting albums and/or use them as the redirect target for the single information.--Milowent • hasspoken 16:50, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
- Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BusterD (talk) 22:31, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
- Delete - no evidence that album has notability independent of its creator, no verifiable information worth merging. ŞůṜīΣĻ¹98¹Speak 11:04, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
- Delete. No sourcing or in-depth coverage demonstrating sufficient notability to justify a self-standing article. --DAJF (talk) 02:37, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
- It reached #20 on the Japanese charts.--Milowent • hasspoken 13:41, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
- WP:NALBUMS says: All articles on albums, singles or other recordings must meet the basic criteria at the notability guidelines, with significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject.
- This article has no sourcing at all, and so fails the notability criteria. --DAJF (talk) 13:48, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
- But why aren't you finding the sources? Get Rosetta Stone and start working. Its easy to destroy content by noting an article has no sourcing. We have thousands of extremely notable subject articles with no sourcing.--Milowent • hasspoken 14:24, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
- Excuse me. I note on your userpage that you do know Japanese. I do not. Meg is clearly notable, I'd like to have a consistent organizational scheme for her coverage on English Wikipedia. I'd do this by redirecting all the articles on her "singles" to the relevant albums, a number of which no one will debate pass notability standards.--Milowent • hasspoken 14:27, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
- I don't think anyone is disputing Meg's notability as an artist. The issue is that there is no evidence that any of her albums or songs have independent notability - "...evidence must show the topic has gained significant independent coverage or recognition, and that this was not a mere short-term interest, nor a result of promotional activity or indiscriminate publicity..." (WP:NRVE). ŞůṜīΣĻ¹98¹Speak 23:46, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
- Under that supposed standard, tons of album articles on top 10 albums would no longer pass muster. No one is looking for japanese sources, so I hardly believe anyone can tell me every album is non notable.--Milowent • hasspoken 01:58, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
- As noted by Suriel above, please remember that this discussion is about the notability of the album Maverick - not about Meg the artist or about other stuff. I have no problem reading Japanese, and I did indeed try looking for Japanese sources before adding my opinion here. Unfortunately, all I could find were Oricon chart rankings and iTunes or Amazon type retail listings, which I don't consider constitute the in-depth coverage required to satisfy the notability guidelines - hence my "Delete" decision. --DAJF (talk) 02:07, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
- Under that supposed standard, tons of album articles on top 10 albums would no longer pass muster. No one is looking for japanese sources, so I hardly believe anyone can tell me every album is non notable.--Milowent • hasspoken 01:58, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
- But why aren't you finding the sources? Get Rosetta Stone and start working. Its easy to destroy content by noting an article has no sourcing. We have thousands of extremely notable subject articles with no sourcing.--Milowent • hasspoken 14:24, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
- It reached #20 on the Japanese charts.--Milowent • hasspoken 13:41, 5 March 2012 (UTC)