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**Now I suppose MRSC will get rid of them, too.--[[User:Brownlee|Brownlee]] 23:54, 22 March 2007 (UTC) |
**Now I suppose MRSC will get rid of them, too.--[[User:Brownlee|Brownlee]] 23:54, 22 March 2007 (UTC) |
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*'''Keep''' Maybe the information in these articles is somewhere else. If so, it is not easy to find. If I look up London N20, I expect to find information on London N20, not be sent on a long search that may or may not yield the information. Is there any suggestion that London N20 is not notable? Of course, if the article is deleted than I will not find any information at all.--[[User:Brownlee|Brownlee]] 23:54, 22 March 2007 (UTC) |
*'''Keep''' Maybe the information in these articles is somewhere else. If so, it is not easy to find. If I look up London N20, I expect to find information on London N20, not be sent on a long search that may or may not yield the information. Is there any suggestion that London N20 is not notable? Of course, if the article is deleted than I will not find any information at all.--[[User:Brownlee|Brownlee]] 23:54, 22 March 2007 (UTC) |
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*'''Keep''' I can see the logic of redirecting (but '''not''' deleting) articles where the postal district is identical to a recognised place name. However, this is often not the case. London N14 is in two London boroughs and includes three areas that have articles on Wikipedia. Where do we put general information on N14? The situation for N20 is even more confused; it covers two areas and most of a third.--[[User:Londoneye|Londoneye]] 12:14, 23 March 2007 (UTC) |
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London N1
- London N1 (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log)
- London N10 (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- London N15 (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- London N20 (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- London N22 (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- London N3 (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- London N2 (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- London N4 (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- London N6 (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- London N8 (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- London N19 (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- London N12 (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- London N7 (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- London N16 (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- London N13 (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- London N5 (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- London N11 (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- London N9 (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- London SE20 (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- London SE16 (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- London SE25 (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
There are approximately 2,480 postcode districts (e.g. London N1) in the UK. They are arranged into 124 postcode areas (e.g. N postcode area) which cover regions usually centred on a major town or city. There are articles for most of the postcode areas. There should not be articles for each of the 2,480 postcode districts. The information contained within them is replicated in the postcode area articles and in the articles of the places they relate to. MRSC • Talk 12:35, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
- Redirect to N postcode area or SE postcode area as is appropriate - Articles are not needed for these postcodes, as they cannot provide much additional information that is not already given in other articles. For example, much of what could be said about the area lying within London N10 is already said within Muswell Hill. However, the articles should be converted into redirects to appropriate articles on the postcode system (N postcode area or SE postcode area). This is already what has been done for other London postcodes (e.g. SW5 is a redirect to SW postcode area). Dr. Submillimeter 13:11, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
- This AfD nomination was incomplete. It is listed now. DumbBOT 16:30, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
- Redirect as per Dr. Submillimeter above. No need for individual articles. EliminatorJR Talk 23:30, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
- Keep There are well over 1,500,000 articles on Wikipedia so it is absurd to complain about another 2,000 or so. Some of the articles on postcode districts were more than bare stubs before MRSC turned them all into redirects, wiping quite a lot of info in the process.--Runcorn 23:35, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
- Keep MRSC sets up a straw man. Nobody is saying that every postcode district should have its own article, only those in the London postal area, which are far older and better-known than those elsewhere. Does MRSC know how many there are in London? it is absurd to suggest that something as notable as a London postal district should not have its own article. true, some of these articles are less good than others, but these should be improved, not deleted. Some of the articles do contain useful information, and this should not be thrown away. If it is elsewhere on WP, where is it?--Osidge 00:30, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
- Comment - London N16 is explained far more succesfully in Stoke Newington for a start. Wikipedia is not a random collection of information. Sometimes it is right to delete things, especially where it is not presented in the most encyclopedic way. MRSC • Talk 07:43, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
- delete all Wikipedia shouldn't have articles like this.--Sefringle 04:59, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
- Redirect per nom and Dr. Submillimeter. Jhamez84 07:44, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
- Redirect as Dr. Submillimeter said. Corington 10:55, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
- Redirect all to N postcode area, SE postcode area, and so on as per above comments. This will allow the reader to then look up the individual articles for the relevant localities in London. Having articles for postcodes is actively harmful to the development of London articles, as it diffuses the effort that could better be used on improving articles on the localities involved. -- The Anome 14:38, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
- Redirect all to N postcode area, pointless duplication. Similar treatment to other postal districts. Kbthompson 15:11, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
- Keep I can see the sense of not having articles on Bournemouth BH1, etc., because nobody thinks of them as areas. However, most people in London do think in terms of London postal districts - far more than of the larger areas - making them highly notable. And with MRSC's logic, we should have no articles on villages or localities. if he is not inconsistent, he will next want to subsume Earl's Court into its borough or even London.--Holdenhurst 16:44, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
- You are the only person broaching these ideas. A little pragmatism is required, as there are a variety of ways to present information. Postcode areas make far better Wikipedia articles than individual postcode districts which remain stubby and repeat information from the postcode area article, and detract from the settlement articles (which will benefit, not lose out from their deletion). MRSC • Talk 06:03, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
- Comment There are also two individual districts with articles in the EH & G postcode areas: EH4 and G12 (postcode) - WOSlinker 23:41, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
- Now I suppose MRSC will get rid of them, too.--Brownlee 23:54, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
- Keep Maybe the information in these articles is somewhere else. If so, it is not easy to find. If I look up London N20, I expect to find information on London N20, not be sent on a long search that may or may not yield the information. Is there any suggestion that London N20 is not notable? Of course, if the article is deleted than I will not find any information at all.--Brownlee 23:54, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
- Keep I can see the logic of redirecting (but not deleting) articles where the postal district is identical to a recognised place name. However, this is often not the case. London N14 is in two London boroughs and includes three areas that have articles on Wikipedia. Where do we put general information on N14? The situation for N20 is even more confused; it covers two areas and most of a third.--Londoneye 12:14, 23 March 2007 (UTC)